An argument against bathroom segregation, from a woman!

An argument against bathroom segregation, from a woman.

Google "Club1" in Savannah Ga. You'll see some pretty famous names from the Trans community, and it's a well-known gay bar and nightclub.

I used to visit the club every Thursday night in the early 2000's for the themed "Goth NIght". The club has 3 floors, and on Thursdays, the main dance floor was always an 80/20 mixture of mostly hetero male and female 18+ art students, and military.

There were no established "Men's" or "Women's" rooms. There were stalls, or urinals. The entire "stalls" bathroom, other than the space inside the stalls, could be seen from the doorway, which was always open. The straight men often used the "stalls" room for the safety of privatized wooden walls. I honestly feel that forcing the men to use the "urinals" room would have been unfair here, as they woudn't have felt comfortable in believeing that every man would be staring at their junk.

I'm straight myself, but I knew going into the bathrooms that someone in there might decide to stare, leer, or even physically flirt and grope me. The ONE time I ever felt that I may be in some kind of danger, it was another woman trying to kiss me, very aggressively. I was inside of a stall, sitting on the toilet with my panties around my knees, she forced the door open, and herself onto me. She was a drunk 30-something, at the time I was 19.

It was a man who stepped in to save me, as he was both strong enough to pull her off without hurting either of us, and he was allowed to enter the unisex restroom. A large man with long hair, a mountain man beard, and decked head to toe in leather Harley gear. He wasn't a bouncer, heck I don't even know if he was gay or straight! He was just a decent human being who tried to help someone in trouble. He called a cab for her, put her into it, and then he bought me a coke to try and help me feel better. I have never seen him since, as he was only a tourist passing through.

Bathroom segregation does not prevent or reduce the likelihood of rape or sexual harassment. Last time I checked, humans cannot see through bathroom stall walls. If you're inside the stall, not only can he not see you, you can't see him, not seeing you. If anyone is going into a bathroom to "get their perv on", they're inside a stall where YOU would have to be the one creepin to know what they are doing behind their closed stall door. The bathroom lobby is still a public area where it's ILLEGAL to "whip it out".

Rape, stalking, and harassment are a conscious choice; those who make that choice will still follow you into single sex bathroom to take what they want from you if they are already that skewed to make the choice to stalk and rape in the first place.

Bathroom segregation does not protect your sense of decency, modesty, respectability, or your moral compass. Your own choices do that. No one has any problems using the single bathroom at the jiffy mart, unless you don't use public facilities, so why do we need a second entirely separate room? I thought we were on a movement towards gender equality.

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  • Who is going to build the physical infrastructure for ANOTHER bathroom facility? Do you really expect small businesses, who get squeezed with minimal profit margins and with taxation, to foot the bill for this?

    Why not let these transgender people use the bathroom based on the gender they currently identify with?

    • I don't like being "that guy", but when it comes to all these liberal inclusive ideas, the "how do we pay for it?" angle is almost never discussed, and that really is important. Money doesn't grow on trees.

    • Taking down the gender signs on the door is 100% free.

    • Oic, that's way lower cost (making 2 new signs )... but why are we doing this instead of transgenders simply using the bathroom of the gender they identify with?

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  • Perhaps we should determine for certain if trans gender is a mental illness or not before we start reshaping the world to enable them.

  • I never understood bathroom segregation anyway. It's a shit-hole, not a social club.

    What gets me even more is when a place has two "one-holer" bathrooms (one toilet, sink, and a locking door) that are designated for men and women.

  • So wait a minute there was a bathroom with only urinals?

    That's kind of weird.

    At the same time I wouldn't mind it that much. I've actually gone into the men's room before and I'll admit I've taken peaks at guys junk at the urinals but they didn't seem to care that much.

  • Less than 1% of the population is transgender anyway

  • im ok with adults having integrated restrooms however i dont think it should be that way in k-12 schools.

    • That I can agree to, unless there were an appointed "bathroom monitor".

    • yeah the few bars i go to have integrated bathrooms so im used to it. i dont think i would have felt comfortable taking a shit around women in my teens. it was bad enough taking a shit around the guys.

  • I have no problem with a unisex bathroom. I agree bathroom segregation does not prevent the likelihood of rape or harassment, with that being said if a woman forcibly tried to kiss me I would have knocked her out. I don't care if she's drunk.
    Drunks are the worst. I know how to protect myself.

  • Exactly, rape is still illegal even if transgenders can still enter other bathrooms.

  • Sooo the problem is, where does it end?

    You accept transgenderism, most "transgender" people haven't even gone through the surgery.

    And just like that, you legit have no way to stop guys from going in the women's locker rooms at the pool. And let's be real... yeah, it's going to happen quite soon, and already has been.

    • This^^^^

  • i don't want bitches in my bathroom.

  • A few of the toilets at my college are unisex, and it's never caused any problems. People mostly just don't give a shit, and that's exactly the way I think i should be-it should just not matter that sexes are being mixed, to the point where [people don't even think of it as a 'thing'

    • because unisex bathrooms usually only allow one person at a time.

    • @thewanderingme Usually, but one of them is actually a proper bathroom

    • what do you mean?

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  • Eve bit the forbidden fruit, toilets are sperated. The end.

  • Just let people who aren't male use separate washrooms...

  • Nice post

  • I wonder if gender-mixed bathrooms will do well in Sweden?

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  • So your personal experiences justify that 60 year old pedophiles will be able to harass and in some cases even rape children in uni-sex bathrooms? Just imagine the pervs that will be lurking inside the bathrooms waiting for their prey.

    I'm sorry but I don't believe in giving mentally ill persons special rights.

  • "Bathroom segregation"? REALLY?
    Seriously, why are liberals so retarded nowadays? Everything can become 'scientific' and subject to a "deeper social analysis" now, is that it?

    Here are a few nice arguments in favor of ""Bathroom Segregation"": Rape, sexual abuse, harassment, 'panty peaking', the list goes on.

    Want to have unisex bathrooms? Okay then. Don't hope to be taken seriously when complaining about abuse.

    • And again I having to type out this same response, DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE? Another WOMAN forced herself onto me by forcing open the door of the stall I was inside of. It was a NON-SEGREGATED UNISEX bathroom.

  • Somebody who is transgender has a mental illness, so it would be wrong for us to now reshape society based on a minority who is suffering from a mental illness

  • What if my penis is trans-there so it sometimes inverts itself, and I use the urinal room while nice it folds into a vagina and oops can't pee this is discrimination and I'm very triggered from interstellar aggression.

  • no equality is a bad thing

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