Sexual Relationships 
Sexual Health 
If you are following the debate about relationships between men and women, you will almost certainly come across this claim: women do not like nice guys.
While women do say they want nice guys who treat them well, many have experienced the very same women going for the “dangerous” bad boy, at least as far as casual sex is concerned.
This means nice guys aren't winning the casual sex lottery as much and more often than not become "Friend-zoned" and may see themselves passed over, again and again.
I think it is true, nice guys really do finish last, but I also think it's more complicated and it does have other causes than simply being nice. Confidence means a great deal to women, and if you are shy or demoralized by many rejections, then confidence is not really your thing. If giving up in advance comes easy to you, then it's a major sex killer. If you do not hunt, you will not eat so to speak. If you do not even think you are any good or you are not masculine enough to get a woman to like you, quite frankly you most likely won't.
If you can sit all night looking at women, but are never able to say hello, or you are the one who shares her interests, makes her laugh and finds her attractive but yet never picks up her otherwise not so subtle signals, that NOW is the time to kiss her, then you will be in this category, nice guy or not.
First we need to distinguish between casual sex and relationships, obviously women's requirements are more loose and focus on sexual attractiveness and performance when it's just casual sex. Likewise most of us will be happy to fuck a super hot bitch, as long as we can get her off our back just after sex. In a relationships, we do NOT want a bitch at any circumstances regardless of her looks, the same goes for women.
When a woman wants a boyfriend, then personality, common interests and stability etc. are all important criteria and turn on's.
Another phenomenon is realism: if your are 40 years old and fat without any money to burn on young hot chicks, then you need to go for women who are more likely to be into you. Sure, a hot 23 year-old, would be preferred, but let's face it, it's not going to happen. You may not be able to kill a bear, but you can kill a rabbit. Unfortunately sex is not a right, but a privilege that we have to earn, so let's be realistic about it. If you are only into young hot women, you better get rich and go for gold diggers.
It's far easier for women to get a sex partner than it is for men, that's how it works. Men are easy, women are not, so this is the result - tough luck but you can't change that, so deal with it.
It may be a cliché, and of course there are plenty of exceptions, but many women are submissive in their sexuality in some degree. For some it means being spanked, bound or worse, but for most it is just a matter of attitude. It is usually what women mean when they say stuff like, "a real man, one who knows what we wants, takes control" and so on.
It does not mean that they are looking for a jerk, what they do want is a man who can be sexually aggressive and controlling, so they in turn can give up control for a while in bed. Nice men are bad boys in bed, but only in the bed, it's not that hard or difficult to understand. It's the female version of whore and Madonna. It's not disrespect to take control in bed, it's only disrespect to try to force her into something she clearly do not want. It's nice to be bad, sometimes, get it?
Regarding "pick-up artists" or coaches, in my opinion you can use the theories positively to boost you confidence, which of course is always a hit with women, but that's about it. Do not put too much into it, I have seen a 5 hour lecture from a coach once; many good points but it's basically not very useful unless you have the personality and then only for casual sex.
As for casual sex only, for those of us in countries where prostitution is legal, it may be far easier, less time consuming and more rewarding with success every time, rather than doing the game about learning how to pick-up girls for one nightstand's etc.. Of course Americans do not really have this option, but you can carry a gun in public (hey I ain't judging, each his own preferences).
A final point: do not be afraid of rejections, these are key essentials. We all get rejections, it's how we deal with them that really makes the difference. You can quit, and be alone with your hand or get amazing sex by keep trying and cope with all the rejections it takes.
So do not take it all so seriously. Most women like to be hit on if it happens in a good way, and if it is a good woman, she will also reject you in a nice way when she is not interested. Otherwise, rejoice of the horrifying rejection, this means you are now free of this bitch – and yes, every women who rejects a man in a bad way is a bitch – end of story.
Women do get turned on by confidence, but it has to be real...you can't fake it like an orgasm. They do get flattered when someone shows interest in a nice way, but unfortunately, confidence is also a characteristic of psychopaths, idiots and douche-bags so they tend to end up scoring quite a bit. But women do still prefer nice guys who are bad boys in bed.
This is my opinion, of course plenty of women will probably object to what I said, however, this is how it really works in my experience.
Sorry if my English sucks, but I hope you get the points anyway.
What Girls & Guys Said
20 28It's simple. Bad boys display that they are above the social hierachy ladder than the girl by treating the girl badly. A guy who is above the girl is attractive to the girl on a very primal, biological foundation.
Thus hedonistic girls will be drawn to this kind of guy and insecure/dysfunctional ones who are fine being treated badly.
Neither. I've found that some women are ultimately attracted to me the moment i become repulsed with them. To a really unnerving amount. I don't know what it is, but its certainly not about being a "bad boy". And its definitely not about confidence because i'm confident in myself whether i respect them or not. I cannot stand the thought of being with someone i don't respect, and i make no effort to hide it when i don't respect them. Which is why its so fucking weird that they get all touchy feeling and start calling me "baby" or "boo" or openly show their desperate horniness for me when its clear by my face that what they're doing nauseates me. Its like they think they can use their sexuality to manipulate their way back into my good graces, but it really just seems like they're looking for a man who respects them just as little as they respect themselves.
Hands down bad boys. If you take a confident nice guy vs a confident bad boy. Bad boy wins all the time. I see it all the time. It's like one absolute I'm confident about.
confidence
I don't like bad boys.
Who cares what girls think?
There are 7 billion people in this world. More than half are women. And if there is anything that I have learned is that you can't please everyone so what's the point?
The point is that at the end of the day the person you have to deal with and look at in the mirror is yourself. Just be the best version of you and if they don't like it then sorry that I'm not sorry.
I am successful with chicks because I'm good looking, rich, intelligent and confident
Its about confidence
It's about looks and confidence. This "bad boy" non-sense is likely to mean he's a criminal or prone to such. Only a fool would find it appealing.
Confidence
I don't like bad boys... I like the confidence
If you're not confident, women can see this on your face and you've already been cancelled out.
its all about what women you're addressing your post
sane women idealize bad guys and stay with good confident guys that may have some bad guy traits in style
attention seekes, low self esteem girls and sluts will just go with bastards with style and maybe even 0 confidence as long as they can fuck for good and fake an attitude they dont own
No. Its the success, confidence, lovingness, performance in bed. These things count. an attitude doesn't.
Performance in bed, unless extremely inadequate, the performance in bed is highly based on the woman being pen and telling him what she like during the lovemaking - leave him guessing and get mediocre sex or tell him and get what you want, it's all up to you kid.
A discussion such as this is so determined by the guy who asks the question as to be irrelevant. Look at the question, it is limiting. One has to choose between bad boys or confidence. How about asking the question bad boys or tomatoes. It's one of the other and as I said so determined by the question as to be irrelevant. In my opinion bad boys are jerks. So let's eliminate them. Why does the attraction have to be confidence. Have a nice personality, maybe sexy, any of 1 million things well maybe a dozen things that makes a guy attractive. So I therefore will not answer this question because it limits me squeezes me into a corner and makes answering just as irrelevant as the question
By the way bad boys or tomatoes, I choose tomatoes. And get that ugly James Bond guy off. I'll take Pierce Brosnan was Sean Connery any day.
So I ask you then, what do YOU like? :)
@tyrantfuryre above all else I value intelligence. And I don't mean average intelligence I mean exceptional. I am probably too old and certainly too mature for this website but as one gets more and mature one looks for qualities that make a man grounded. Certainly I don't want an ugly guy but I'll go for average looks and high IQ anytime
Exceptional intelligence, both good and bad guys can have that, and looks doesn't not have anything to do with intelligence, you can find plenty of intelligence guys both good, average and bad looking.
I have attended three major universities, Emory, Stanford and Columbia and I've never ever met a guy who was a bad boy having exceptional intelligence. Anybody with exceptional intelligence is not stupid enough to be a bad boy
@TryThisOne Going to college doesn't make someone intelligent. You're already under false pretense there.
@tyrantfuryre that's enough of you. This conversation goes no further. Not going to college is a sign of stupidity just the fact that you don't go. Forget it I'm not interested in the discussion with you. Perhaps I should of said educated and intelligent. It is very difficult to get a PhD without going to college. In fact I dare say impossible. So cut out the little boy defensive that you can be intelligent and not go to college or blah blah blah. I'm too conceited to listen to you. Anyway goodbye
Yes, you are conceited indeed. Intelligence is the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations. The ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria. Intelligence is the ability, not the knowledge. Educated gives you the knowledge, but not the ability. @tyrantfuryre is therefore right and @TryThisOne is wrong and by her own admission conceited.
I don't think she cares what your definition of intelligence is. The bottom line is she wants an intelligent guy. What is so bad about that
@BETTERNOW No she don't and the makes her stup..
This should have been pretty obvious. Unfortunately, it's not
Then i guess i'm fucked really good because i'm shy and sweet.
When I want to be fucked all the way or senseless then a bad boy he's good for me cause they won't cling to you because most of them don't want serious relationship with you and lastly I believe bad boys give the best sex orgasm
I think confidence. Oh and bond is not a bad boy by the way. Lol, he's a good guy.
I don't think even women know what they want. Or certainly whether they give off the vibe of what they want. It appears they act innocent around a guy with good qualities and quickly be slutty with a guy who isn't good to her. Even in a social circle, the brash one gets her posing like a model, whereas the more good looking bond smooth friend has her acting innocent.
Can u check out my take, about two guys and a girl? I'd appreciate your view? www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
This is why the insecure dudes who care about pleasing women don't get laid. Because they have no experience it shows... women pick up on it... not having experience will only make it harder for dudes to get a girlfriend. It does kind of suck that girls can't do a charity fuck for the guys there don't get any lol.
Not sure why I'm laughing I'm one of them rip :O