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Men are generally less discriminating when it comes to hooking up. They have standards of course but they generally have lower standards than women do.
Out of 100 women the typical man might be open to the idea of hooking up with 40 of them.
Out of 100 men, the typical woman might be open to DATING 40 of them, but she will only have casual sex with maybe 10 of them.
Girls rarely hookup with guys who are less attractive than them. Girls are only willing to compromise on looks for relationships.
Contrary to the notion of sluts having low standards, they commonly have HIGHER standards when hooking up.
For example, read what this girl has to say about her hookups..
My one night stands were with HOT men; men that I would have considered out of my league... When it came to hooking up, my partners prerequisite were higher; at least superficially, than those I deemed necessary in a man I was dating. Seems weird to see that admission in type but quite frankly my criteria for a man I had a one night stand with were all superficially higher; looks, swag, attitude, dress, etc. When dating, the qualities in the men I sought dealt more with depth of character and intellect. Source:
https://dirtyinpublic.com/index.php/926/casual-sex-equally-desired-notable-gender-gap/
In other words if a girl has casual sex with you then she actually physically desires and lusts for you.
If a girl wants you for a relationship chances are she doesn't see you as much of a lover. I.E. Someone she really lust after.
While she will have sex with you, she sees you more of a companion she can share her feelings and time with, and possibly look to the future in helping raise kids.
Guys who fall into the LTR category are more likely to be less physically desired and it is one of reasons why many girls today actually cheat on their boyfriends with guys who get casual sex and then run back to their boyfriend without him ever knowing.
From a Mytake owner of "Girls in tinder have sex alot" a student in sexology
Girls on Tinder have SEX a lot
She states:
It's also something I noticed that "porn style sex" occurs on these casual encounters and women seem to enjoy that but many don't feel comfortable doing that with a long term partner.
There's the saying, it's pretty misogynistic but also holds some truth, "girls want to be treated like a princess and fucked like a slut". The thing is that is hard to form these two contradicting bonds with one partner. That's why we often see women giving it up for some guys who treat them like "sluts" and have crazy sex in no time, but take a while to put out with a serious partner. ."
The age range of people we questioned anonymously was 18 to 40. There seem to be a lot of single mothers but, apparently also married women ! who use tinder to have casual sex.
The number of women cheating however (this is also discovered through other researches) is also increasing VERY fast, and it is becoming less and less taboo, which in my eyes is a little shocking.
So from this we see women really want to have sex with guys they are actually physically attracted to but at same time these guys do not offer companionship that women want also and often make them feel liked used up sluts. In short, girls want to be treated special, loved and have companionship but at same time they have conflict in associating a raw, fiery desire to the men who offer these things to them.
In the above study "Girls on tinder have sex a lot" It was reported that many girls have casual sex using the app, but only a small percentage of men were having a lot of casual sex while using app.
Men who fit these description:
"Muscular, relaxed, and well endowned"
Another study was done where a dude pretended to be an attractive guy and an average guy and talked to some girls via text.
In one profile the guy was average looking, generally kind to women, being himself and was basically a straight up gentlemen. Many of the girls faind a good girl act saying "they don't do hookups", "only looking for serious relationship", and so forth. Some were kind,a nd put on a good girl act and acted like they never do anything slutty.
In another profile the guy was really hot, and demanding of sex. Told the girls they need to message him, and treated girls like they were garbage. The same girls who were acting like "saints" to the average profile were basically sending nude pics, talking about how they wanted to suck him off, sending flirty text, asking for Skype sex, and wanting to hook up immediate.
Link:https://cf.girlsaskguys.com/q1778900/ce27cc60-0c33-4bb2-94dd-c1d566878dc9.jpg
This is further supported in another study which stated the most attractive guys tend to have the most amount of sexual partners. While suprsiingly the most attractive girls tend to have the least amount of sexual partners. This could be attributed to many guys being too timid to approach or assuming the hot girl is already taken so they don't bother approaching.
So the bleak picture for men is this:
guys who are in the 8-10 range of attractiveness who are confident and fun are the ones getting most of the casual sex. They are the most successful on tinder and are often the guys who will be seeing multiple girls at the same time. The thing is they are less discriminating and often sleep with girls below their league (girls in the 5-7 range) to get easy sex and then settle down with an 8-10/10 girl or a girl who hasn’t slept around.
The average guys get stuck committing to the average looking girls that none of the players wanted.
Also he generally has to wait months for the sex the players got right away. It’s like a trade the attractive guy gets easy no strings attached sex from a girl who maybe isn’t his top choice, and the girl gets to have sex with a hot guy who would have never given her the time of day if she demanded commitment first. So girls “ explore their sexuality” with guys who are out of their league physically and then settle down with a guy who is less attractive than the guys she used to hook up with, but generally this guy has a lower number of sexual partners than she does so she will lie about hers. Generally this guy makes more money so its not a bad deal for the girl.
What Girls & Guys Said
30 39This has been my experience too. Of course most women will deny it because they don't want to give the game away.
When I was younger I was the typical nice guy who would wait for women, I was also pretty skinny. They'd tell me what a nice sweet guy I was, then they'd come to me later and tell me they just wanted to be friends. A few times I found out they'd slept with some guy at a random. party, or maybe their cheating ex-boyfriend, and they ended up getting with them instead.
Then I started to hit the gym. I asked a female friend why she thought I was unsuccessful with women and she told me I wasn't aggressive enough (one of the few women who've actually given me good advice rather than Disney fairy tale shit). So I started being more aggressive with women, as in chasing them more, being more forward, sleeping with them on the first or second date, and leaving them alone if they expected me to wait. Some got mad and called me an asshole, but the ones who slept with me would always be keen to see me again and they'd start chasing me.
Sometimes when I told girls I just wanted a bit of fun, they would try to convince me that I should pursue a relationship with them. They'd tell me they were "not that kind of girl" and that they only had sex in relationships. I stuck to my guns and basically said "this is what I want, take it or leave it". Again some would just leave. Others would change their mind, whether that be instantly or later on, and when they did they dropped the good girl facade. After we had sex they always admitted to sleeping with a lot more men than they said they had before, to having. one night stands after saying they never did, even after hasrhly criticising women who do as "sluts" and "whores". They'd become completely different people.
This wasn't just a few, this was a lot of women. Some I remained friends with admitted exactly what you said about standards when asked, that they choose casual sex partners for looks, and relationship partners for personality and their job. They also said that sleeping with a guy too soon ruins the chance of a relationship because it makes it less meaningful or some shit, but they didn't mind having ONSs, and they didn't see how silly that idea was.
After all that, it just makes me giggle when a girl tells me she's not that kind of girl and that she wants to wait.
Good stuff man. You should do a mytake with what you just said and title it "I'm not that kind of girl".
Although this take cannot be considered scientific (mainly because it's based on what Philosophy of Science call anedoctal reports), I admit it put a smile in my face, since it's very enjoyable to read. I had a lot of fun with this theorizing, that may very well hold some truth to it.
People and their behavior are fascinating, it always makes me happy researching and learning more about them.
Lol
you copied and pasted a lot of this from my opinion on this take...
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a23621-the-reason-there-are-no-good-men-left-women-30-problems
I thought of you when I read this take. This is very similar to one you wrote before.
@Bluemax Yeah its kinda disappointing because I was planning on writing a take on this. But now if I do people will think I copied him :/
as much as I truly despise this league bullshit it's all true.
basically in my opinion a woman only has two ethical options:
- NON-hypergamous promiscuity (this means she can sleep around but within her own league. no cherry picking attractive, high status men with rolexes and nice cars. eventually this woman will settle down later in life, and will probably choose more meaningful factors into consideration for her monogamous partner)
- demisexuality (this means she does not sleep around, ever, and prefers to develop an emotional connection within a long-term relationship before she has sex with her partner. in her lifetime she will typically only have one or two sexual partners. personality and an emotional connection are ALWAYS more important factors in her romantic decision-making than looks, money, status or raw sex appeal.)
the worst type of woman is hypergamous, promiscuous and uses her sexual advantage to manipulate men. worse still, she sleeps around neither for sexual gratification, or even for the validation of being accompanied by a high status man. she is essentially just a gold-digger and wants money and what other privileges she can get from sex.
somewhere in the middle would be:
- the girl dates above her league like you described in the text but she genuinely enjoys the sexual gratification and being absorbing the awesome chill nature of attractive laid-back men. eventually she will settle down for a relationship although she may be a lot more sexually experienced than the male she partners, even though they are roughly belonging to the same league. he may feel inadequate as a result and over time, he may feel a little inwardly resentful about the short-straw the harsh reality of polygynous dating has delivered. however, this girl also has a super-cool fun personality, is awesome in bed and makes up for the sexual inadequacies the man has about himself and the girl's past history.
- the girl has incredibly prudish ideas about sexuality. she rarely, if ever dates or has sex with men, because she has over-estimated her league and clings on to very conservative ideas regarding sex. she is sexually inexperienced and after years of being single, she eventually settles down, begrudgingly for a man that is actually in the same league as her. this man will probably have a similar level of sexual experience so will not feel bitter in this regard but he may find it difficult to relate to this woman who is emotionally closed off and dislikes sex.
Nice field. Needs a diagram.
@Transigence ha quite possibly so, I might expand upon and refine the concepts to make a new my_take 'ethical promiscuity' 'ethics of sexual identity' or something.
it would probably be quite unpopular though because I have the women who think they should be able to sleep with whoever they want (the feminists) and the men who just dislike promiscuous women in general (the traditionalists).
I think you underestimate the male crowd here. It seems like a pretty even split, to me (in 1/3s). You'll attract the scorn of 95% of the women, though.
@Transigence well so far I have the male audience divided into four crowds, the male feminists who are genuinely successful with the opposite sex because of or in spite of their ideology which pampers to women's beliefs about equality without responsibility; men who are excessively traditional and like to buy flowers, pay for dates, pampering to all the female whims and finally, the whiny men's rights activists who complain they have to do all the work and want everything to come to them. there are very few men with an old school philosophy like mine: I don't mind approaching women and making an effort to improve myself and my life so I can appeal to women in a similar league. I am also egalitarian but believe the equality of women comes with responsibility. I find men that agree with some of the same tennets of this but few men that adopt the philosophy as a whole.
Hmm... I wonder what category I'm in. I'm an MRA and a MGTOW. I don't mind approaching women but it frustrates me that they so very rarely approach me. I'm not a RELIGIOUS MGTOW though -- I will consider marriage if it's to my legal advantage (we have kids). I do take wisdom from the PUA crowd but I scrutinize it first and I'm pretty much only interested in chapter 1.* I've already gulped down the red pill and plunged myself into a 5-year-anger and come out of it without sinking into the abyss of hatred. I don't mind paying for a date, but I want her to contribute soon. I don't like women that cultivate weakness (i. e. the surrendered wife) and think that it's attractive or "natural." That shit is a perversion of traditionalism. I won't date a [nice] feminist because they have accepted religious dogma about men that is not true. I know they don't hate men and they think they're doing what's right. It's not her intentions that I despise but her core beliefs about men.
* Even the most notable MRA in the world has said that everybody should at least familiarize themselves with the basic principles of "game." It doesn't require you to be unethical or immoral, but it does give you the tools to cultivate attraction. I also want to study game not just for picking up women, but for staying at least partially in control of any conversation (conversational techniques, framing, etc.), even with men. re: MRA I don't inject my politics into my personal life. I call bullshit when I hear it, but I don't go out trying to change the world starting with my friends and family. Most of my activism is in the form of arguing on the internet (and I won't stop until I win!), and giving money to causes I think are worthy. I try to be sociable and well-rounded. I don't assume people to be hateful. But I don't have much tolerance for any form of gynocentrism.
@Transigence we are quite similar actually, for example I want to be the initiator but I don't respect women for not being PREPARED to put in the same effort. same for me with regards to PUA, a lot of it screwed me over: if I have to cherry-pick, then I will go for the ideas related confidence and self-esteem building. One of the reasons I found Mark Manson's book, Models, so valuable because it has this and also talks about some of the mindsets and beliefs you need to approach lots of women and much more: e. g. some of the logistics of dating. I'm not fully MRA or MGTOW myself simply because I still have some ethical leanings towards feminism, I just wish more people would appreciate that the situation for women has improved vastly in the last hundred years or so. We don't need radically aggressive versions of feminism in a world where men don't get parental leave, men are for the most part sexually unsatisfied, men are paid roughly the same in white collar jobs...
men are more likely to be victims of assault, and sexual assault (specifically anal rape) is 10x worse for men. I certainly did take aspects of red-pill philosophy but a lot of the self-improvement ideas I had been working on for a long time anyway. I don't mind feminists that can be reasoned with, because these women have simply adopted a philosophy that is socially ingrained from an early age, so it's not really their fault.
@Transigence I can agree with that. Even though there have been negative aspects about learning game, I feel like the benefits about understanding human psychology have been worth it. Learning to be manipulative is certainly not the same as cultivating an authentic confident mindset, however manipulation can be used for good as well as evil, e. g. if you are using manipulation to inspire a positive change in somebody. Agreed about politics. I am only interested in the political aspect in so far as I want to find a compromise between MGTOW/red-pill philosophy and more feminist leanings. I think that that's what ultimately stops me from fully immersing myself in the pro-male ideology. 'old school' is the based label for my own personal mindset and belief system, but I think that people will always have areas where their ideology overlaps with one another and areas where there are inconsistencies or ideological conflict. that's why I just think of myself as my own man with...
viewpoints that can be highly subject to change but overall, the core ideological tenets remain the same.
This is a beautiful Take. Really, a masterpiece.
One thing I can say you are totally wrong in is how you stated if a girl wants a relationship from you, she doesn't view you as a lover to lust over. WRONG. Its in fact the total opposite lol.
Indeed.
My experience is the opposite. It's almost as if she doesn't sleep with you soon, you not as hot as the other guy she did sleep with. I' have been googling how to get more direct and sexual with women very early because if I lose another girl to that "long term- get to know you" bullshit while another guy gets her in the interim, I'm going to do my nut.
This is actually spot on...
For real? Your opinion is litteraly the polar opposite if what every other girl said 😕
@Bandit74 girls hate admitting to stuff like this. I could care less, it's the truth
why do you think they hate admitting it?
@Bandit74 Because then they'd have to reevaluate the way they see themselves. They'd be admitting that girls are just as shallow as men, and girls like acting like men have the upper hand in life. They love playing the victim
you're like the first girl to agree though. Every time this is discussed most girls get really defensive and adamantly deny that it has any truth. Do you really agree that most girls do what the take says: girls commonly sleep with hot guys who are somewhat out of her league and then settle with a less attractive guy but more stable guy for a relationship and makes him wait for sex?
To me it seems like for a guy its potentially more of a compliment if a girl chooses you for fwbs. Girls may settle in a relationship but they never settle on looks for casual sex. It means you’re likely more attractive than the guys who she would seriously date. You get sex sooner and with less effort and at the end you still end up with her heart. I see so many questions where girls are talking about how they have fallen for their causal partners. I think it most fwbs scenarios, the girls either directly wants more or she would at least be open to the idea of it turning into more if the guy wanted it to. It’s like there’s nothing exclusive to relationships. The fuckbuddy guy gets everything the relationship guy gets, only sooner and with less effort. Am I wrong to think this?
@Bandit74 yeah I completely agree with that In The case of most girls. But tbh I've never made anyone I've been interested in wait for sex. I've hooked up with people I see as out of my league and below it. But I'm a bit of a nympho so that explains it.
So you've notice your friends do that?
@Bandit74 Yeah definitely. They all act like they're angels if they can still get what they want. When they can see that a guy has plenty of opportunity to get laid they realise he won't wait, and they'd rather fuck him than get nothing. So they do
So a lot of it has to do with what they feel they can get away with? You should write a take too. I feel like it would be better than this one. Plus it would carry more weight since you're a girl.
@Bandit74 Yeah pretty much I'm not great at mytakes, my thoughts are so complicated and detailed, i end up writing about too many different things
I still think youd be good at it:/ Last question... the difference between the guy who girls will sleep with right away and the guy who they play hard to get with.. How much of it is based on just looks versus how much of it is based on personality and the type of approach the guy uses?
@Bandit74 Well if the guy clearly knows he's attractive, they don't tend to make him wait. If he doesn't know he's attractive, so his attitude is less forward, she'll make him wait.
I mean, can an average looking guy get girls to want to sleep with him right away with his personality and the way he approaches? Or is it pretty much only the really attractive guys who girls are going to want to sleep with right away?
@Bandit74 With the right attitude, he could pull it off
What attitude is that? just confident and assertive? Do they have a certain way that they approach?
@Bandit74 Yeah confident, maybe a little bit cocky. They make you feel lucky to be even talking with them
but wouldn't that turn girls off?
I thought arrogance was bad
I'm not saying you're wrong, T-shirtsandkneehighs, but why should I believe you and not all the other ladies who are loudly calling bs on this take? What evidence do you offer?
@Bandit74 Right or wrong, this is the most interesting discussion on here.
It may be spot on for you but not for everyone. You can't speak for everyone.
@Bluemax This website attracts a certain type of person. People with nothing better to do, looking for an escape from their boring lives. Most girls on here are either average looking or below average, why would they agree with a take that forces them to accept the truth. They want some sugar coated bullshit that will make them feel better about themselves.
@Bandit74 Not necessarily
@BubblyMaria Whatever you say hun
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Yeah the majority of us guys are fucked. Great take and on the money. But I will say that it's not sometimes just the attractiveness. The guy who is competent with women also gets a lot. I find arrogant guys get girls too. I use these two examples all the time. 1) I'm hotter than my one friend. I'm A guitarist in a band, I create my own music, I have a great day job as a manager, I'm self sufficient etc. my other friend is a druggie who at 32 still stays with his mom (and he is a bassist ha ha). He gets way more girls than me. 2) my player friend who has had more than a 100 girls, is also not as well built as me and I've been told I'm hotter (because I asked around) but he is just a bad boy and gives off that arrogant vibe. So basically, I'm hotter than both but my nice guy demeanour puts me behind both these guys.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a22115-a-hint-of-truth-to-the-men-are-heroes-women-are-easy-adage
You know how to get a drummer off of your front porch? Pay for the pizza.
... right, and then there's real life/experiences...
Some of what he said does match my own real life experiences.
@Bluemax That's nice :)
Yes, it's called "anecdota." Useless for science.
For me sex will always be something which will only come if I love her. I am not the type of guy to have sex just with anyone especially casual sex and all that shit...
Sorry but I would want a women who has same thinking like me...
Don't want women who go around cheating or sleeping with just anybody every week... Not attractive to me...
Although I don't mind if they do... But I don't want anything with them.. Except maybe friendship..
People can do whatever they like... Everybody is different..
You said that men have lower standards... Well not all... At least not me...
As for your take I don't mind waiting if the girl is a virgin herself...
Wait... so other guys are having more sex than me? So even if i have good sex with good people i don't win the game?
... oh no. help. the humanity. 😴
If you want proof of this yourself it's not that hard to confirm. 1) Create 2 online dating profiles. One of average guy and other of a good looking guy. 2) Act flirty in both profiles, or acts like a douchebag in the attractive guy profile and nice in average guy profile. 3) Target the same girl and see how they react when you try to flirt with them or ask them for sex/date.
You can even try this with tinder.
My chances aren't as good as a guy who's hotter or more privileged, you say? I may have to try a little harder than those who are more advantaged, you say? That's quite the revelation. Brb slitting wrists.
"My chances aren't as good as a guy who's hotter or more privileged, you say? I may have to try a little harder than those who are more advantaged, you say? " And with this I already know where this argument is going and where your stance is on the matter.
My stance is bitter mytakes aren't the answer. A positive outlook on life is the answer. Although I'm curious, what is my stance, smartypants?
First of all this isn't bitter. Putting in place testimony and studies of female behavoir when they expose their true colors of the game so men can better understand the game and look out for their best interest is positive. You completely missed the point if you thought the result was "Oh wait I'm not 9/10 male I'll have to try harder", Your 17 so I'm going to assume your still young to the dating game and probably been in doctrine into feminist teaching which seem to be coming more integrated into schools. So all i can say is if you don't want to learn from this that's fine. You'll either pay for it in divorce rape 20 years from now, or eventually figure it out when your older.
Lol not bitter at aaaaaaall. And what if i don't play "the game"? What if, and stay with me here, pointless sportfucking isn't the end all be all of male existence and that's why you're sad and angry? Why else would my happiness with dating damage your ego so much?
It's not about sports fuck the point of this take was this for young men get a girl who would want to have ONS or friends with benefits relationship with you for relationship. Not the ones who make you wait months for sex while she was giving it up to some other guy on the first night.
The fact that your basically acting like a woman using the words "bitter", "ANGRY", and thinking this is somehow negative to men just shows that I'm dealing with a mangina feminist. So I'm not going to bother at this point.
my standards aren't lower for ltr
Dual nature of women :
Maybe that's why women are compared to a ray of light.
Did you mean a particle of light?
@Transigence Women are compared to a ray of light not particle of light.. But ray can be made up of many particles.
C'mon, man, I'm making a funny. Maybe they're more like a wave of light.
TBH, it looks like men are right in line with the rest of the animal kingdom, constantly trying to get the attention of females by strutting around and puffing out their chests.
https://youtu.be/o42C6ajjqWgThe funny thing is some guys like Bluemax and white knights is that they think that by siding with girls in discussion on issue that criticize them or paint them in a negative light while at the same time bashing their male gender somehow makes them more attractive to females and improves their chances of getting laid.
Yup some do, and they will learn in time. Those without game can only bitch and shame.
Wow so much prejudice! I can assure you the opposite also exists (more in my surroundings). Plus all the guys want the hot and slutty girls for casual hook ups but want a complete lady as a wife so why do you bash women when they repeat the same behaviour?
"Plus all the guys want..." If that isn't a biased generalization, I don't know what is.
Women, biologically capable of only having a few children over the course of their lifetime. Whereas men can have virtually an infinite amount. Which makes women subliminally more picky and choosy. And fuck you for making men look like animals who would fuck anything.
And the point of this myTake is to weed out the kind of women who have a alpha fux/beta bux strategy.
Think you should take a look at this video. All about the lover versus the provider male. Was quite an eye opener about how women treat certain types of men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsMAs a virgin, that's why I'm marrying a fellow virgin.
You plan on marrying a 12-year-old?
@Transigence she's older than me, genius. They do exist.
Fucking hell. Nice stereotype.
Just putting this here cuz blocked lol @asker And bitter and angry are girly words eh? That sounds like something the bitter and angry would say. You have a lot of rage directed toward women. And toward guys who are secure with themselves. Your sense of self is so fragile. If you could define yourself by better characteristics than sexual history then it wouldn't be. If someone who's so inferior to you could get under your skin like this it just shows you that the way you validate yourself is flawed. If this pussy beta mangina feminist just schooled you and damaged your ego, can't you see you've got a weak heart?
@jjmarvin Good luck getting divorce raped in 20 years is all i have to say son.
Who says i wanna get married?