If a guy starts touching before kissing... does that mean he's experienced or inexperienced?

my guy friend and I have recently become really close and we admitted to each other that we like each other. now from the beginning, during our initial hang outs months ago, I noticed that he wasn't afraid to touch. he'd put his hand on mine, or run his hand along my arm, putting his hand on my knee, or put his hand on my back, even once put his arm around me during a movie for a bit.

then, months later, it progressed to rubbing my arm, running his hand along my leg, putting his hand on my hip.

to now weeks later, putting his hand under my shirt and running it along my arm, rubbing my breasts under my bra and even slipping his hand under my pants grabbing my ass cheek.

he's just recently (like 2 days ago when we were together) tried to kiss the corner of my mouth but I was shy so it didn't happen.

Keep in mind I am waiting for marriage, so i'm not letting anything happen. he's of the same religion and is supposed to do the same to but I guess sex is on his mind? either way, does his behavior scream that he's experienced or inexperienced? as far as I know he's never dated anyone (he's that nerdy awkward but confident good looking type of guy)
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sooo update. I'm 99% sure he's inexperienced. He does not know how to kiss! he and I attempted to kiss many times today and he doesn't know the technique... I can tell he has never kissed. granted, I have never kissed anyone before either. but I did my research on youtube, so I have an idea of how it's supposed to go.
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  • I mean come on 🙄. I am not sure holding it for a year just pure dating and no bang 🤨. I mean 🤷‍♂️.

    My ex we were friends for at least 3 months we hang out with our friends in a group. In November in 2013 she allow me in to her parents house. Well right at the door a carry her straight to her bed while her parents at church 😊. After that day everything was great I mean we hang out with a bunch of topics to talk during the road is like it unlocked entire confidence.

    UNTIL HER LITTLE FKEN BROTHER. He screw everything. Snitching we had to limit our selfs. He was like referee. I swear it started to get cold in our relationship. Later her parents started to go with us. I am like 😳 I gotta stop this.

    Ask them we need to talk about this because I want to save this relationship. At this time we were at 5th month.

    "A simple question am I dating y'all or her? Cuz in my understanding I nail my lovely girlfriend. Not with y'all".

    Oh man they flip. Told me "our culture is to be with our daughters relationship, since you nailed our daughter, is time for marriage". I am like 🤷‍♂️🤣, y'all really joking? My ex turns around she says " they are not". I said "WTF AAAAH HELL NAAAAA. REALLY IN 5 MONTHS JUST BEING boyfriend AND girlfriend". 😂😂

    "I don't know what type of culture is this... plus there wasn't a disclaimer on her for head and least a tattoo on her butt saying nailing this you are accepting our terms". Oh they got mad and said "GET OUT". I said "definitely".


    I was 24 or 25 when this happen.

    • She should have read you the disclaimer to avoid all this trouble.

    • Walt832 - ha , ha , ha ! serves you right for messing up someone elses daughter ! they need to sue you for touching their daughter you pervert ! thanks

    • @MissDawn7961 🤣 I mean she invited me in🤷‍♂️. Judge will be like oh well you daughter ask for it. 🤦‍♂️

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  • He sounds experienced or just read a lot and fallows stupid guide...

    In case you don't want like his touches or even back side grabs just tell him to stop as for me now it looks like you enjoy his behaviour and he only will get more of it not less unless you stop him...

    I date women, who told me she wants it or even taken my hand and putted where she expected it to be... or told me not to...

    But don't sound like you will never want it, just tell that he will get it only after marriage...

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  • He just wants sex and thinks you want to also. It has nothing to do with who has experienced or not. But the fact that they think is okay to cross boundaries when it's not okay at all. If you choose to not say anything then you can't complain about what the other person did.

    • so is that bad that he isn't asking me if I'm okay with the touching? he's been so sweet with me otherwise. I'll def say something next time though. I've never been with a guy before so i'm trying to see if he's using me or what or if this behavior is red flag for down the road

    • If you got to ask this question please tell me why you should be dating? Because you look like a quick easy person that can easily get raped.

    • I never dated and been with anybody either but even I got that much common sense. Don't you know that nobody should be touching you without your consent? I don't care if he goes to church or not I'm a Christian myself. Even I know many men and women are women. And he is a man wear his a Christian or not he was sleeping children regardless of what if that's what you allow him to do. They'll be sweet to you for me to get into your pants. He knows that you don't have any experience or whatever so he's going to take advantage of you. I suggest you let this guy go good because if you don't did not expect to keep your virginity and be screaming to God about why you wish you done something different because this is all common sense. He doesn't care. God will never put you involved with a person who's going to take advantage of you and use you.

  • Didn't it happen?
    You aren't shy when he touches all over your body but you shy when he wants to kiss the edge of your lip? Oww OMG🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️..
    He may be inexperienced. You may be shy. And a relationship can work that way too. Go on honey..

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  • It screams he's HORNY!!

  • Hard to say, but I suspect him less experience.

  • It means he's experienced I think I don't know just tryna help.

  • No set rule. It can go either way depending on the guy's prior experiences. Like a guy could be really experienced at kissing but nothing else. Then again he could be really experienced at groping & not kissing.

    Your behavior doesn't scream, "I am waiting for marriage". It says you're open to letting him lead you where he wants to go as long as it's super slow. I think he knows this.

    • Re: update... Uh, a guy could have had sex many times WITHOUT kissing so the fact you think a guy can't kiss doesn't prove he's inexperienced just that he sucks at kissing. Also some people just always suck at kissing even if they did it a lot. Other people are good at it from day ONE.

  • That's an experienced guy. If he ain't shy to touch you, it's because he had done it already and i don't think your plan to wait till marriage is gonna work with him

  • Hmm I say experienced and horny. A shy guy would ask if they could touch. Where as experienced but new to it will see how far they can take it. So u kinda got 50/50 chance he's inexperienced

  • If you want to wait, you need to talk to him and set some very clear boundaries! E. g. No hands on or near the following areas etc...

  • He seems kinda confident. Have you at least gotten naked with him or given him a handjob? Is he a virgin also?

  • Sounds experienced to me lol!

  • I would say its hard to make that determination. There are some guys that could easily do what he is doing with no experience and there are guys that have plenty of experience that would try those things.

    • Well, that’s good news. You guys take it slow and don’t rush things. Figuring things out is half the fun. by the way, there was one response that was outrageous on here and I’ve encountered her before. She’s off her meds or something. 😂

    • that's so true! thank you :) and hahaha I saw!

  • Sounds like he's more confident and experienced then he's letting on.

  • It’s all depend upon the passion.. I am passionate of kissing. Somebody else might be passionate or interested to do something else... never judge based on this.. only get involve into something like this.. when you trust and have known enough of a person..

  • His behavior shouts "EXPERIENCED" to me!

    And also, I don't think he sounds like someone who's waiting for marriage. He is WAY too handsy. You need to tell him to slow his roll. You need to lay down the law, or he will plow right over you.

    • do guys get experience from doing their research though? like maybe he watched a lot of romance movies and sex stuff on the internet and knows what to do from that? and yeah u have a point. he's never pushed it though. cuz if a guy really wanted to, wouldn't he start unbuttoning or pull my pants down or something?

    • "do guys get experience from doing their research though?" That's certainly possible. For example, I know some things about sex from watching other people have sex (on video.). But there's a difference between knowledge and experience. In my view, if you haven't done something before, you will be very hesitant and cautions. Your boyfriend doesn't sound hesitant nor cautious. So, either he has no concept of bodily autonomy and personal boundaries (which is a red flag), or he's just used to touching women, so he does it without even thinking about it. Well, undressing someone would definitely be "pushing it" for sure!! But to me, that's way beyond just pushing it. At that point, you have already fully crossed the line.

    • I see I see. it's just he's never dated before and he doesn't seem to know or have experience in dating or being with a girl (to me it seems this way, I don't know I could be wrong). because he never attempted to kiss me when he had the opportunity to do so. it was later on (days after he started the touching) that he attempted to do so, and even then he wasn't taking the lead he was just pecking my lip. I guess my thing is, wouldn't he know to kiss a girl before touching her? if he had experience? cuz kissing is how a girl gets relaxed and knows to expect some touching

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  • He comes across as experienced, he Is testing the ground of how far he can go. But I'm surprised he doesn't kis it the best way to get a girl responsive and relaxed..

    • yeah that's why i'm confused. if a guy is experienced, he knows to kiss a girl first then proceed with the touching, since thats the only way to relax her. it seems like he's doing things out of order which sounds to me like he's inexperienced... no?

    • I sometimes wonder where these guys have been. Admittedly I was 13 when a girl first kissed me. I found it like dark chocolate once tasted I was hooked. She taught me a lot of things. It would seem that is what you will need to do. I found it a great time , getting to know these things...

  • You can't be a nerdy, awkward, confident, and good looking at once. Dor starters awkward and confident are antonyms in this case. Some people find needy good-looking so I will not address that, but if you don't they are also antonyms.

  • Doesn't mean anything. You're reading way too much into it. Typical girl.

  • no such thing as "just friends"

  • Neither

  • Inexperienced guys could fumble trying to see how far they could go.
    Or, it could be experience and he was trying to get you wet by teasing you.

  • Girl that turns all men on
    Be careful then. Touch especial as you told it is a precursor to sex. Stop that if yiu hling tl wait

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