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Myth: Women Cum
Truth: Cum is a noun and it comes from the word scum, and relates specifically to male semen. Women do not produce semen. We do not cum. We come. Originally, in erotic literature, the male and female orgasm were both referred to as "coming" or short for "the orgasm came". People heard the word come and assumed it was the same at the word cum, so now virtually everyone uses the term cum wrong (as a verb, it's not a verb).
This misuse over about the past 25 years has led many people to think that most/all women also produce some sort of ejaculate, and women are even told they should be ejaculating and just need to be taught. This leads us to another myth...
Myth: All women squirt
Truth: Squirting is one of two things. One is rare and will happen on its own. The other is less rare, and when it happens on its own, it's considered a medical problem. Read more -
In humans, in the first stage of fetal development, the beginnings of what will become the male prostate form in both male and female fetuses. In the second stage of development, the mother's body feeds the fetus a sex-specific cocktail of hormones, and that causes the prostate to develop in male fetuses, but not much in female fetuses.
Very rarely this gland, called the Skene's gland in females, develops enough that it can produce fluid like what the male prostate does. This is incredibly rare. In fact, it is so rare that it took decades of study for doctor's to discover functional Skene's glands in women, as they are so often just vestigial.
These women will naturally produce the fluid in small quantity at time of orgasm, through the urethra, and it will happen whenever they orgasm with no special stimulation required.
This phenomena is so rare most of us will never see it. (Coates, 1991) That is true female ejaculation.
Then there is another phenomena. It is called coital incontinence. It is not female ejaculation. Coital incontinence can happen for many reasons, and it is often treated medically.
What is popular right now is manipulating the urethral sponge to irritate the urethra and then the woman forces urine out to produce a noticeable "squirt". That is essentially what is happening when it is seen in pornography. It is often associated with the G-Spot, but there is also not anatomical evidencefor the existence of the G-Spot to begin with, so the two myths have become intertwined, each adding credibility to the other.
What is often misunderstood about this kind of squirting is that is is not in any way related to orgasm, and trying to obtain it requires motions that may actually interrupt a woman's sexual arousal cycle so that she won't actually orgasm, just pee really hard. Many women are told this is some awesome ultimate orgasm experience, but it turns out to be just meh for them.
There is not some hierarchy of better female orgasms. Our orgasms are all clitoral, no matter how we reach the orgasm (even mentally). onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ca.22177/full
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18 41Well OK. I'm following you. But my SO did something. She was on top. It wasn't pee, I tasted it, and if it wasn't squirting then what was it. It was liquid and tasted bland.
orgasm is a mental thing, you can't have an orgasm no matter how hard you're penetrated if your mind is not focused on it !
It usually takes me 30 mins to orgasm on normal basis and only when I'm looking for a break to cool down I concentrate and orgasm, yet I loved a girl so much and the passion was so crazy between us I couldn't hold my orgasm for more than 5 mins even If I wanted to !
this is why many people try to drink more before sex so they set their thoughts on "flight mode" and their desires on the main track !
I had a girl who was orgasming so hard from anal sex ! it's all in the mind, the real G-spot lays in the mind, and the squirting thing has to do with the stage of arousal and pelvic muscles strength, from what I understood it's the stage of mind where the female is so aroused and ready to orgasm so the pelvic muscles contract as if before an orgasm while the smaller muscles of the bladders opening gets into a relaxing stage and there you go a gushing show ! yet it's not an orgasm but since it's an extraordinary not usual common thing, the female gets a joy of having it which gives a similar "happy after orgasm stage" !
as you said the only physical form is clitoral, others are all mental !
Ne-ga-tiive. Only proles need to focus on it. It just happens to the Magical.
So what actually happens when woman comes? I know it sounds dumb, I'm aware that vijvajy relaxes when women orgasm and squirting is a myth but yet I'm not sure what consist of female orgasm. Is it physical action or just mental pleasure?
And yeah I did ask question about it long ago but it got removed for "Adult content under 18" I hope they don't remove this opinion as well
Oh, good question. Think of all the feelings you have in your penis and groin area when you orgasm except for the ejaculation part. You have muscle spasms that feel incredible, and your whole penis feels awesome, and you have these nice feelings down in your groin. Sometimes that nice feeling kind of spreads. Well, when a woman's clitoris orgasms, it is really all quite similar - our vestibular bulbs spasm, muscles clamp down and un-clamp, that indescribable warm nice feeling spreads through the whole groin and beyond. But there is rarely a liquid that comes out. Think about it. Women do not have a biological need to inject our genetic material into another person's body in order to breed, so our bodies did not evolve to do that. Some of us got that developed Skene's gland, but most didn't.
I knew it! I guess it's the porn who create such misconceptions.
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They did studies on squirters using ultrasounds during masturbation to show the bladder filling then emptying. It's likely a result of urinary incontinence which is common in women as they age. In 3 different studies 45-55% of women noticed fluid squirting out during sex. That matches the number of women who develop urinary incontinence and trouble controlling peeing.
I can only tell about my little experience with squirting girls. I had only 2 of them. The stuff tasted acrid apart from that it was neutral, color- and odorless. 5-15ccm of liquid. Hard to say precisely. It's really rare in noticable quantities. One only squirted when I pulled out completely and went in rather fast and violently again. So kind of sucktion and pressure took place inside her. The type of which you would apply when massaging her g-spot.
If you are doing 69ners, you'll notice that all women loose liquids on the way, but from different sources (Bartholine's and Skenes glands, etc), in different quantities and different viscosities.
In commercial pornography is all about faking it. Some have liters shooting out. Anyone who believes this to be real is a naive idiot of course. The few girls that I know who were potential squirters, didn't squirt because they resisted the "urge to piss" while in the act. They got rid of their juices later on the toilet, where they wondered, why their "piss" was transparent and odorless.
Most women do not have a functional Skene's gland. The Bartholin's glands produce a squalene like lubricant to keep the inner labia moist, but they do not squirt, and they do not drain through the urethra. If your woman had the urge to urinate and then relieved that urge, what squirted out was urine. By every medical means possible, it has been shown that even when very very light in color, its still urine. The rare woman with a functional Skene's gland reports an entirely different set of physical sensations than that "rub this g-spot, make her feel like she has to pee" kind of squirting.
Well, this is how experience differs. I know that there are very different kinds of liquids present from various sources. I know it very well :) Believe me, I was closer to this pasrt of the body than the owner ever was. The 2 girlfriend I had who were squirters were hit not even 1% of the girls I had the honour to have sexual intercourse with. So as I said, it's pretty rare. At least in my experience. My girl who had the urge to piss, didn't piss. I know the difference. There was no color at all. The taste was absolutely not the one of piss. It was a bit acrid like chili but had no taste and no color. Completely clear and transparent. I was in a 69er. One can't get closer than that. Concerning her feelings, I can only tell what she said about it. She told me afterwards. So maybe she mixed itr up somehow. What sensation she felt, I don't know. I only know what I did before she squirted. She never told me what she felt and how. I have my assumptions but we actually never talked about it.
Son. That was piss.
It's happened to me a few times. I always pee before I do anything. I pee multiple times before bed because I hate the feeling of having to pee. I'm confused by what you wrote because it doesn't happen every time and definitely doesn't feel like peeing.
@Purplehigh86 No, it probably won't happen every time, because sometimes your bladder doesn't have anything in it. And the fact that it doesn't happen every time is a really good indication you're not one of the rare female ejaculators of the world.
My bladder never has anything in it. I'm obsessive about it because I hate the feeling of having anything in there.
@Purplehigh86 You know, even if you pee right before you have sex, having sex is long enough for you to get more fluid in your bladder. Serious as a heart attack. Now, you can call that fluid magic unicorn juice if it makes you happy, but it's urine. Just is. Those are the breaks. Sorry.
very good article!
is too bad that I no longer care about this type of things anymore. I thing pleasing a woman is a major waste of time
Why do you feel that is?
pretty long story, but perhaps this recent post of mines will be more than enough
Am I the only one who feels extreme apathy about being a good lover nowadays? ↗
Sorry, luv, but language changes over time. "Cum" is now a noun AND a verb, and does NOT refer only to male ejaculate. And "literally" actually means figuratively, most of the time.
The rest is more of the same nonsense; opinion masked as fact.
I appreciate that we have developed a cultural misuse of the word "cum" - but this error in terminology we have nursed for the past 20 or so years has just led to more confusion about how the female body works. That's why backing the terms out to where they retain their accurate meaning is a way of getting people to back themselves out of errant, medically inaccurate concepts. I can and will provide references to new science of the female orgasm if you want to dispute the factuality of anything I have claimed herein. I generally don't include all the references because it's a bog down to read and GAG users are not usually keen on reading abstracts.
Please, I'm curious to see your citations. I've had sex (usually oral) with several women who exhibit the effect you call the "true female ejaculation"; I don't think it's anything close to as rare as you claim. Certainly, the quote that asserts all female orgasms are clitoral written by a man, is rubbish. It can be achieved without stimulating the clitoris at all... I find it far more likely that this is a case of observer bias, than that every other research is blinded.
Have you noticed this thing called nocturnal emission? You know, an orgasm you have in your sleep without touching your penis? Well... did the orgasm still happen in your penis?
No. Orgasms don't happen in my penis. they're merely expressed there. I've orgasmed without any interaction with my penis at all.
Guess what? That's exactly how the clitoris works too. You don't have the orgasm in your elbow, or in your earlobe. The activity of the orgasm itself originates in your penis, and happens with your penis. The clitoris has all the same structure as a penis minus a urethra running up the center. If you're going to dismiss the science, there's no point in digging up years worth of citations for you.
LOL! the penis isn't where orgasms happen, Milie. Saying it and basing your thinking on it doesn't make it true.
No man, it literally *is the anatomical location of the orgasm*. Admittedly there's a mental component, but that doesn't move the locus of the experience referred to as orgasm. I'm not sure why you're insisting you're right on this. Your orgasms will still happen even if you acknowledge that your notions of anatomy and physiology are outdated and uninformed. When a male or female person has an orgasm, it takes place in the glans, shaft, crua and vestibular bulbs. The literally (not figuratively) is where the phenomena takes place. Now you're trying to say the male orgasm doesn't happen in the penis? Whatever dude. Stay in ignorance if you want.
*snickers* that's funny, you calling me ignorant. Dud, you can have an orgasm with any penis at all. guys who have their lopped off can still orgasm. So no, that's not where it happens. I'm sorry your breadth of experience and education is so narrow, but you can't insult me by demonstrating your own lack of knowledge.
So, where are those citations you claimed you had?
I'm not trying to insult you. You think you just automatically know more because? This is what women are talking about when we say we are being mansplained to. You don't even ackowledge a simple truth about your own anatomy because you're vested in proving me wrong. But you can't. You can't prove me wrong on this, because my research, knowledge and experience is so much wider and deeper than yours. By far. You're just being obtuse to prove some point, but all you're proving is that you don't care to learn something new or more if it challenges what you thought you learned before. "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance — that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Go study the science, not the popular notions, of the female orgasm for, let's say, 8 years, and come back to me with what you have learned.
You already trashed the first one. I'm not wasting the time of bringing you 30 citations for studies you can only read the abstracts of, and then say "that's nonsense". YOU do the work. Go study the anatomy of the clitoris yourself if you want to disagree with Puppo and Puppo. Go out and actually get more knowledge than I have, than THEY have... then we'll talk. You're a waste of time until you do.
Sorry, you called it "rubbish". But if you think you know better, I can give your Dr. Vincenzo Puppo's contact information and you can debate it with him. He'll send you copies of MRI images and detail the research methods he and his daughter used.
"I'm not trying to insult you." "your notions of anatomy and physiology are outdated and uninformed." and "Stay in ignorance if you want." those are insults, so yes, you are trying to insult me. "You think you just automatically know more because?" It's not automatic. It's a deduction, based on my own experience, and your dodging my request for the citations you promised with this line "I can and will provide references to new science of the female orgasm if you want to dispute the factuality of anything I have claimed herein." So far, all you've provided is a single link to an abstract of a single paper I'd have to pay money to even read. That's clickbait, not evidence or references. everything else is the same way; logical errors compounded with ad hominems. Really, you just keep dancing around the issue. I'm willing to be wrong, but not just on your bald assertions to the contrary. So, put up or shut up, but you might as well stop with the personal attacks.
"You don't even ackowledge a simple truth about your own anatomy because you're vested in proving me wrong. But you can't. You can't prove me wrong on this, because my research, knowledge and experience is so much wider and deeper than yours. By far." Facts not in evidence. you make claims, but you produce no data; just bald assertions. You're just being obtuse to prove some point, but all you're proving is that you don't care to learn something new or more if it challenges what you thought you learned before." Ad homenim, again. I'm fascinated by your supposed ability to judge my motivations, when you've never met me. This is usually called a "hasty generalization". you have this self-created picture in your head, stuffed full of all the things you want me to be, but it's false. Because it's easier to attack a lie that support your own untruth.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance — that principle is contempt prior to investigation." True, but not the case here. Again, facts not in evidence. Prior to WHAT investigation? You make an unsupported assertion that flies in the face of the generally accepted body of knowledge about female sexuality; that all female orgasms are clitoral. But you provide no evidence to support this bald assertion. Yours is the extraordinary claim; you must do more to support it besides chanting "read the literature!" I HAVE read the literature; it disagrees with you. Now what? where's the experimental data that supports your claim? " I can give your Dr. Vincenzo Puppo's contact information and you can debate it with him. He'll send you copies of MRI images and detail the research methods he and his daughter used." That'll do. anything to move this along...
You have no reason to call Puppo's work rubbish. You read one abstract. That tells me you aren't in this to learn anything, and you're now not worth the time or energy to debate.
I didn't call Puppo's work rubbish. I haven't read it. You offered to give me contact info, remember? I even quoted you were you said so. So please, give over the straw man arguments and the ad hominems and either put up, or shut up. so far, you haven't contributed anything but lies and misdirection. You are apparently incapable of reading simple English, so your evaluation of my purpose here is less than convincing.
Dude, you're seriously trying to claim that the human male orgasm doesn't happen in the penis. Jog on you twit.
And once again, when cornered about actual data, you resort to ad hominems. So, really, you got nothing. That's fine for an opinion piece; anyone's entitled to an opinion. But don't try to pass yourself off as knowledgeable on the topic. It's just sad...
No. YOU have NOTHING. YOU. Nothing. You just THINK you do, and you're not big enough to expand your mind to adopt knew facts. You immediately dismissed the first "data", and now I simply choose not to waste my time discussing data with someone who has suspended the use of reason. You're a quibbling, small-minded tyrant and the only thing to say to people like you is that you're trying to fight out of your weight class. Enjoy not ever knowing how a clitoris works. Good for you. Capital choice on your part. Hear! Hear! Bravo, and congratulations. You have surely bested me. Now, on your bike sir. Ta ta.
That portrait is hilarious. But whatever the truth may be, I think trust is essential in discovering the truth. And be mature and understanding about the results. Women don't HAVE to be pornstars, they should be themselves. Takes patience.
Intriguing
So women rarely legit squirt when having an orgasm?
And that they often fake it by just peeing a strong stream caused by irritation and forced stimulation?
Am I missing something?
I don't think women can urinate while turned on, so if you see a liquid coming from the urethra, it's most likely not urine
@Unit1 It's not really faking or not faking. Some women naturally have a Skene's gland that works, not many. Some women already have coital incontinence. Other women are encouraged to develop this squirting pee thing by lovers who fetishize it and think it isn't what it really is.
Women can and do pee while turned on. They don't pee from the same hole as the vagina the way men only have one hole. They did studies on squirters using ultrasounds during masturbation to show the bladder filling then emptying.
Also, it's likely a result of urinary incontinence which is common in women as they age. In 3 different studies 45-55% of women noticed fluid squirting out during sex. That matches the number of women who develop urinary incontinence and trouble controlling peeing.
Right. Thanks for responding ladies.
I guess I learned something today: don't stick your dick in the vacuum cleaner.
I'm not sure how that plays into this, but yeah, I generally agree with you, I would say. Not bad advice. Don't stick your dick in the vacuum cleaner. I can get behind that. You have any more eye openers to add?
Thank you.
Thank you.
All I know is that its kinda hot
I really don't care what 'squirt' is. I am just glad it happens.
Damn. Nice info! Thanks for sharing it. :D
I thank you... I've been trying to get the truth for so long, and you just gave me what I was looking for.
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Welcome to the English language. the ever changing and evolving bag of words we call language.
to be completely honest, what it is and where it comes from really doesn't matter to me too much. I can tell you is it is such a turn-on and so fucking hot when you get a girl to squirt all over you... Absolutely love it!
If you're diggin it and she's diggin it, have fun. I have no problem with that.
Yea it's great... huge fetish of mine!
ah ok
It's just fucking nasty it's cum, piss, and other bodily fluids flying out of a woman's puss like spit flying out of a ball player's mouth on a windy day in all directions. fuck that shit. Why are we even talking about this? Fogettaboutit...
It's never cum. Cum is semen. Women don't produce semen. What we are discussing doesn't come out of "the puss", it comes out of the urethra. We're talking about it because it's educational about the female sexual response, and I happen to think that's a perfectly fine thing to discuss.