Only Virgin Girls Allowed

[kap_nss]

A week ago I ended up the relationship of more than three years we had with my girlfriend. It was hard to do that. I tried many things before deciding that and it took me a lot to come to terms with that. She is totally sad, and is hurt because the reason is I can't get over her past sexual life. I won't go into details here because I found out that writing about this subject helps me. But going into details is too hurtful now. I prefer talking more in general (I worte a question about this if you are courious). The point is frmo now on only virgins allowed.

I started having thoughts about her past more than a year and a half ago. A year ago I started looking for help in many ways. Nothing helped me to fully solve this. Some things were better than others. By then I started reading a lot about this problem sometimes called retroactive jealousy. And I've seen some really false statements there like the one I'd like to mention now: "You have to accept your girlfriend just like she is".

No, you don't.

Don't let the twist your mind or otherwise torture you with false commandments. I've read hundred of times people telling a guy that he have to accept the fact that his girlfriend has been with others. Where that comes from? I understand that sometimes the guy knew the girl wasn't a virgin when he met her. And then he can't complain about this because he was warned. But yet, he is in his right to choose the girl he wants. No one else is entitled to tell him which characteristics of this girl are those he can use to choos her or not.

I co-worker girl I know told me once "I'd never date a guy who hates smokes". And I found it totally rational because she smoked a lot. I heard a guy on the TV years ago saying he would never date a girl who didn't want to have sex in the first date. Weird as it could sound I guess we can say what is our criteria. It has to work for us, not for every one else. If I decided to only date virgins from now one. Who is going to stop me?

Yes, you can say I'll have a hard time finding a virgin girl. That's true but I have to try, right? Maybe it won't be a virgin really. I don't know for sure. It could be a girl with a conservative past which is willing to never tell me anything about it. Maybe it will be easier for me to accept her past now that I also have a past. But this is not only about me but about all those guys out there who a repeatedly told they have to accept their girlfriends even when the can't get over their past. You can try. But also you can drop it and get out from there. And go for something different.

[Stacyzee]

I find it odd you place so much value into who someone has slept with, when from this article I can infer that you are not a virgin.
It'd be funny if virgin girls found themselves unable to get over your sexual past.
I find your method of approach of someone who is highly insecure and hypocritical in tactics.
Your logic would only work if you were a virgin yourself , then I'd say your preference is understandable.
How would you like someone judging you based on the people you slept with before you ever even knew of their existence?

[kap_nss]

Not, it won't work ONLY if I am a virgin. I don't have any issues about some girl dating me or not, based on my sexual past.

[Stacyzee]

What I mean by work, is the understanding of that I get where you're coming from with this view. But since you have a fair amount of sexual experience, and you're solely seeking virgins, this only leads me to believe that you are extremely insecure. Good luck finding virgins because the only ones i see are piled up on GAG. In every day life, even teen girls aren't virgins. I remember feeling like the last girl in highschool to lose my virginity.

[Stacyzee]

I'm even shocked to hear someone 20-21 say they are a virgin. This is what the norm as become. I really think you need to dig deeper and face your insecurities, what are you so afraid of?

[DeValdini]

ass peging?

[mishsheaven]

@stacyzee don't worry about him. Virgin girls have no problem with dating non virgin guys

[Stacyzee]

@mishsheaven Well, everyone is different. People have preferences. Some virgin people actually prefer to date other virgins. My only concern is that there is a lack of logic in his preference and he comes off as extremely insecure. He can't bare to have a woman with at least one male experience , why? Is it because he sucks that much in bed or his penis isn't that great? Something is definitely off here.

[Stacyzee]

Due to his destined woman's lack of experience perhaps she won't even notice he sucks because there is no one to compare it to. He wants to play it safe due to his insecurities.

[Stacyzee]

*desired woman's

[mishsheaven]

do you realize that you insult him for his preferences? what if another person insults sluts for their choices of sleeping around? Why the one is right the other is wrong. Isn't it his business who to prefer?

[mishsheaven]

that is an outdated opinion that guys prefer virgins for avoiding comparison.

[Stacyzee]

@mishsheaven When someone puts their business out on the world wide Web where millions of people have access to read it, it is no longer their personal business , it's everyone's. If someone does not want their personal views looked at or commented on , they'd keep it to themselves. So , by you telling me how I should act or think is irrelevant in this case. He clearly wants peoples input and that is what I am providing. To tell someone not to "judge" is pretty much like telling me not to live. Literally everything a person does is a judgment. Crossing the street is one. Choosing whether to walk down that dark alley where there is a whole group of men standing. Deciding what you should eat etc. I am human so I will judge. Those that act as if they do not are in - denial. Judgment pertains to all aspects of life. It is unrealistic not to judge.

[Stacyzee]

I want to understand his logic. What I think is not insulting it could be his reality. If it is, I want to help him on how he can gain confidence in himself.

[Stacyzee]

I also find it a bit humorous that you tell me not to judge yet his entire mytake and title is a judgment of those who are not virgins. "No virgins allowed " sounds like judgment to me. He even broke up with his girlfriend of three years because he judged her.

[mishsheaven]

sluts have slept around so their business is not only theirs but also those who know about their lifestyle. And guys who fucked them have the right to tell it anyone they want. If judging is okay then why judging sluts is okay too.

[mishsheaven]

are you saying guys who prefer virgins are insecure and guys who prefer sluts are confident?

[Stacyzee]

Let's stick solely to this topic and not branch off. Other assumptions about men who prefer sluts are meant for a whole different topic and take. There's nothing wrong with a preference generally speaking. Through aspects of everyday life people have what they really like and that is okay. A problem only begins to formulate when a person closes off anything that is different than their preference. For example , let's say I am a Indian woman. I do not want to date my own. I solely want to seek out white men. It is normal for one to ask , well what is wrong with dating your own? It's okay to like others , but is there is a hidden agenda or hate towards your own? Usually those who have preferences , are not closed off to things that are different. Some would gladly consider keeping an open mind for other types of people especially when they have a lot in common with them. Someone closing off their own completely shows indication that they harbor negative views towards type

[Stacyzee]

People who hide behind the words "I have a preference" and that are refusing to date any other than what they state they like , usually hold a lot of discrimination , hate , and /or insecurity in their hearts. In some cases , this person is not okay with themselves which is why they close others off.

[mishsheaven]

I dont want to date guys who had one night stands. DOES THIS MEAN there is a hidden hate? So open minded have no standard? Lol

[Stacyzee]

Okay, no matter how simply I break logic down you will still fail to not understand. It's hopeless speaking with someone who refuses to see any point of view but their own. Clearly , everyone here agrees with my view since almost everyone stated the same thing I did.

[Stacyzee]

You are blinded by your own ignorance. I will not waste anymore time on you.

[mishsheaven]

What does agreeing have to do here? Peopel who have the same lifestyle agree with one another.

[mishsheaven]

You realized your sentences madeno sense.

[Stacyzee]

Everything you have said lacks substance. It's just an ignorant view which remains blinded to the fact that not all preferences are harmless. Some people have preferences due to hatred for themselves and others. If everyone is saying the same thing , I'd stand back and think , wait a minute could this be true? It's clear this man has insecurity issues because he refuses to date a woman that is like himself sexually.

[Stacyzee]

That is all.

[mishsheaven]

I am a virgin but I dont want to marry a virgin guy. Like the take owner I prefer my opposite. What about this?

[Stacyzee]

You failed to want to hear anything I have to say. I doubt you are asking that question for curiosity or to gain insight. I will not answer your question because of that.

[Stacyzee]

You're doing this for the sole purpose of making a mockery of the situation. You want to prove a point less point.

[dudeman]

i have meet plenty of virgin women in their late teen and early twenties.

[dudeman]

i think this has nothing to do with insecurity. men are territorial and are allowed to be so. we shouldn't have to change our nature to accommodate a womens choices.

[dudeman]

i myself won't seriously date or marry a women with a colorful past not because of insecurities but simply because i dont want to. i dont pay full price for a used car.

[Stacyzee]

@dudeman who says her past has to be colorful? He doesn't even want a girl with even as little as one partner.

[dudeman]

and thats his choice. this has nothing to do with insecurity though. thats just a weak argument women use to shift personal responsibility.

[Stacyzee]

@dudeman Every person read this knowing that it's his choice. However, people will formulate an opinion based on the info he chose to share. Can u really fault anyone for thinking that? "thats just a weak argument women use to shift personal responsibility. " How is that a weak argument when he clearly states so himself.

[dudeman]

he states that he doesn't like that she has a past i didn't see him say he was insecure. i dont like women who have much of a past because as i said i dont pay full price for used goods. used electronics i put a cap at 60% of retail value. retail now not when it came out. this puts most women in the friends with benefits catagory.

[Stacyzee]

Okay, so someone has to shout out that they are insecure and have low self esteem for it to be believable? That's definitely new to me. I always thought the way one behaves and operates to others is a reflection of how they feel about themselves on the inside. This guy clearly says "Only Virgin Girls Allowed" This means that, even a woman with as little as one partner he does not want. You keep talking about someone who tons of experience, he didn't mention that. He's clearly stating he ONLY wants a virgin and no one else.

[dudeman]

low self esteem i would think the opposite really. like if you think you can do better then that speaks volumes. well even three partners is far more than enough statistically for her to be a decent bet for marriage. also yes somebody does need to say they are insecure for them you to believe that otherwise you are just making up stuff in your mind so you feel better about the situation. again this is something women just say to themselves to shift responsibility.

[Stacyzee]

Someone needs to say they are insecure for it to be believable? So, that logic can apply to anything then. If I rob a store, as long as I don't say I robbed, I'm not a robber. If I only allow White people in my store, and not those of color, as long as I don't say I'm racist, then I won't be a racist. Okay, I get the logic! Someone is only something if they ADMIT to being so. So, if their in-denial of who they are, it wouldn't really matter because it's something they choose to not acknowledge.

[dudeman]

im saying that this isn't about insecurity because I've been in his position. this is about being a territorial male and not wanting to change how your brain works simply for a womens decisions. this sounds exactly the way he feels. now if he said things like i feel i will never measure up to her past lovers or anything of that nature then i would agree with you however he said nothing of the sort.

[Stacyzee]

Ever thought that his reasoning may be different than yours? Are you saying you will only date virgins and will leave no room for a girl with even one experience?

[dudeman]

no i won't only date virgins but less then three is a requirement. his reasoning may be different but it doesn't sound that way and honestly most men seem to have the same reasoning as myself in this aspect. some men simply dont care and thats fine, some men like myself are disgusted by the idea of such a women being the mother of their children.

[Stacyzee]

Well, okay you have a preference which is fine. But he's excluding anyone with experience. I don't think most men think that way unless they are a virgin themselves.

[dudeman]

well again thats just his preference. i would think that most men would prefer a virgin but just have settled with the fact that its not likely to happen.

[Stacyzee]

I don't think most men would prefer a virgin. Although the thought of being the first is appealing, some men actually find the sex enjoyable with someone who has experience and knows what they are doing. The word "preference" is used a lot. But is often a coverup to mask the hate or dislike someone feels towards the group they are avoiding. Not all preferences are harmless.

[dudeman]

you know i guarantee if men had their choice most would rather marry a virgin. the men who prefer experienced women are just looking for sex for the most part.

[COMMODOREII]

I agree with what you are saying; here (How would you like someone judging you based on the people you slept with before you ever even knew of their existence?). It really doesn't matter whether you are a virgin or not one, it depends on what type of person you are. I mean you can find a good person in someone who has had sex before, once or infinite number of times, but could be the right person for you. And a virgin could be the one person that is always causing hardship in the relationship, casue of their insecurities. Then again it could be reversed or neither or both. lol It just depends on that person you meet from day to day. You do not who are going to meet, that could end up being the "Right One".

[COMMODOREII]

@dudeman I disagree with you about the, ( i guarantee if men had their choice most would rather marry a virgin. the men who prefer experienced women are just looking for sex for the most part.) I am a man, and I do agree with the fact that every man and woman has a choice to decide who they want to be with for the rest of their lives, but all men are not territorial as you claim. I am one of many men who want to partner in life, not a piece of property, and the last thing I want to be with is a child. So when I go look for a woman, I expect her to know a few things, wether it be sexual or not, I expect her to be responsible, mature, tactful, and uncontrolling. She can be waiting for the right person in sexual matters, before or after marriage, but also have as little or as much experience as she worked for. She is still a woman, not a slave, or a piece of property.

[dudeman]

@COMMODOREII you're also past marrying age dude. as am i

[Stacyzee]

@dudeman past marrying age? There are people in their 40s and 50s that get married. Where do you come up with these wild things that make no sense. I mean really? R u functioning on no sleep at all?

[dudeman]

yeah but thats rare. marrying age is 4 years after the last year of your formal education. its just statistics after 7 its not likely a person ever marries. unless he has a phd and a post doc or two he's past marrying age.

[Noxifer626]

Woah. Woah. Woah.
So you just dumped her for not being a virgin after THREE YEARS?
Dude. That's just plain stupid.

[TwentySomething]

No, he found out that she was a whore.

[Noxifer626]

@TwentySomething Unless she charged those men, she wasn't a whore.

[Echelon333]

Lmfao.. My current girlfriend has been with 2 guys sexually in her past, was it hard at the beginning? Yes, I even had some hard time sleeping moments over it, but that was only like the first 5-6 months, now I don't even fucking care, cause you know.. she's with me NOW and we love eachother and I'd never leave her over some childish stupid sh*t like this one lol Dw I know how it feels, she even had a rough time when she was 14-16 (regarding sex) I hate smoking too, and she smokes lol But I wouldn't leave her over that! I feel bad for your ex, she didn't do anything wrong to you personally, she just lived her life and doing normal things that everyone does (yes, your girlfriend is allowed to live her life before she meets you lmao), and you just left her, and for what.. ? For your own (stupid) insecurities.. Grow up "man". And you're such a hypocrite lel, "From now on I will only look for virgins" And you're not a virgin yourself, and you also have a sexual past. Just a tip.. If you find one of those conservative non-virgins who won't tell you anything about their sex lifes before you, you will end up asking them that same question lol Yeah sure, at the beginning you won't but on the long run, you eventually will.. But hey, you can leave her/them too after 6-7-8 years again when you find out about their past lel Again, your poor ex loved you a lot (still does) and you've spent 3 years together, and you left her... But it's your life right? You can do anything you want blah blah Good luck with your virgin hunt bruh, hope you catch some of them virgins, then lock them in your castle and be happy forever.

[Kiwedin]

Do whatever you want to do with your life, but I just have a really hard time understanding why anyone even cares about virginity. As long as they're free of STD's, why should anyone give a fuck? Why do you care so much?

[The_Terminator]

As a guy, I care about it for many reasons... here are some: I don't want to touch and kiss you where another man has already touched and kissed you.. I dont wan't to put my d*ck in a hole another man has put his into.. it's gross to say the least.. even if I didn't know any of my girls ex partners, to think that this girl, my lover, who is supposed to be mine, was used before me by many others is very disheartening. Not to mention the psychological and emotional damage caused by multiple romantic&sexual relationships.. the more heartbreaks a girl suffers, the more baggage, the lesser her capacity to love, etc. etc. This doesn't mean I'd never date a non-virgin.. I would, but only in one scenario. If she truly regrets her past and vows to never repeat her mistakes.. she'd be as good as a virgin in my eyes, and I would pursue her if everything else between us was great.

[Kiwedin]

@The_Terminator Yeah, I still don't get it lol. You think it's gross that she's been with other men, yet there's this thing called a shower and it does a really great job at cleaning one's body and removing germs that may or may not been left behind by someone she had sex with lmao. I feel like your issue less to do with germs and more to do with the fact that you may be insecure and the idea of this girl being pleasured by another man makes you feel inadequate or that she's maybe comparing you to them, which is just silly. Again, really not understand your reasoning here. If you had complete confidence in yourself and your sexual ability then maybe you wouldn't be so obsessed with her past partners... To say that a woman who's had more partners has more "baggage" is a complete generalization. Even if she had been hurt previously, why is that such an issue for you? If you truly care about someone, you want to help them and you want them to be happy, not completely write them off.

[kap_nss]

If you don't understand after reading this text and the question I referred there, there is nothing else I can do :)

[GiftShop]

You're not a virgin, but you only want a virgin? You'd date a non virgin, but only if she is not happy with life decisions she's made? Why shouldn't she be? You're a hypocrite. And no girl is yours. You don't own anyone. You sound insecure and ridiculous.

[GiftShop]

@The_Terminator Whole message was for

[Echelon333]

@The_Terminator Dude wut? ".. the more heartbreaks a girl suffers, the more baggage, the lesser her capacity to love" Are you talking about spending money? Cause when you spend some you have less of it after that, but that's for materialistic things lol Love is not the same believe me.. Where did you get this info, I really wanna know and see it for myself lmfao So everytime a girl loves someone, the next one is really screwed huh.. That's not how love works lol Even if she loved 5 guys before you, she can still love you the most of them all, and be the happiest she's ever been with you, I know it's shocking, but it's true.. And the part about the touching lel So if she has male friends (which I'm sure she has) and they hug everytime they see eachother, you can't touch her because another man already did? "Oh it's not the same dumbsh*t, that's about sex blah blah" But it is the same lel Both are equally normal and natural ( I know right *shocking* that sex is all naturale) #Plizgrowup

[The_Terminator]

@GiftShop I am a virgin.

[GiftShop]

@The_Terminator Well, you still make absolutely no sense. The whole "a guy touched her", "damaged", "regret life choice" is bullshit. You sound so insecure.

[The_Terminator]

@GiftShop you're the one who sounds really insecure.. you're trying so hard to justify your actions and your beliefs.

[GiftShop]

@The_Terminator You don't know any actions I've taken in life or beliefs so... I'm simply saying what you said makes no sense. A girl isn't your property. If a girl regrets her past "she'll be a good virgin". ? No, if someone has had sex they aren't a virgin.

[The_Terminator]

@GiftShop I would engage with you in more detail, but I'm facing a lot of technical difficulties with this website at the moment :/ .. I might hit you up later if you're keen to discuss. FYI you don't really understand what I mean or where I'm coming from with a lot of what I've said. Good luck in any case.

[COMMODOREII]

@The_Terminator OK as a guy myself. I can see not wanting to marry a woman who already has kids, and doesn't want any or is past her prime in having kids. I want my own kids, and sure as hell do not want to be raising some other guys kids because he was a douche. AS for psychological and emotional damages? COME ON... Men experience these too, and you expect me to believe that you do not have any baggage of your own? Why would any woman, virgin or not, want you if you are carrying your own baggage? Well HUH? Your relationship should be formed by your heart, and spirirt, not by how "cennect" sexually or how your bodies are "made" for each other. How many couples have stayed together because they could not even have children due to sterilization? or genetic disorders? Yeah dude, you gotta reall reevaluate your position on this, because this is what we would call, "backing yourself into a corner".

[Kiwedin]

@COMMODOREII Could not agree more!

[StewieRH]

I am a virgin and Christian so don't believe in sex before marriage (although I do sometimes wonder if I should twist the rules a bit and just wait until I've found someone I really trust, love and have known for a while) but I don't think my boyfriend is a virgin as he had a girlfriend before me, says he used to be a player (though won't really talk about it as he regrets it and just wants to forget about it) and once asked me if I ever wonder what it feels like. Another thing he once asked is why some bra's have patterns on them which makes me think he's obviously seen a few bra's and then when I ask myself "How?" the answer that comes to mind is "Probably while having sex unless he's seen his Mum's or sisters hung up on the line".

Ngl, I do feel jealous when I think that he's had sex with other girls even though it's before he met me, plus he is younger than me (17). I can't say I know for sure he's had sex as I haven't actually asked him but I don't think I want to know as if he has, I know it will make me jealous and I hate that feeling and besides, I think it's pretty obvious he probably has.

I just try and remind myself that those girls probs meant nothing to him as he doesn't seem to like talking about it and never mentions them. The only other girl he really mentions is his ex but that's another story and he's seemed to have stopped that now. I just remind myself that those other girls probs meant absolutely nothing to him and that he is with me now and that he loves me and doesn't want to lose me and seems fine with the fact I say I don't believe in sex before marriage as he knew this before we were going out so I know he see's me as more than just a sex object.

[Astro1222]

Whoo! Another Christian, Bending the rules can be dangerous and I know that is tempting, But any road can be a slippery one, I had a friend who tried it.. yeah 15 and pregnant. So yeah be very very careful.

[StewieRH]

@Astro1222 I am 19 so wouldn't be so bad but I would have to wait for my boyfriend to turn 18 if I do with him as he is only 17 atm

[DeValdini]

I'm virgin vegan atheist gay

[StewieRH]

@DeValdini Lol

[kap_nss]

Well, I've been through the same jealousy thing and I couldn't bare it anymore. I don't have religious believes and I don't think virginity is sacred. I don't think that sex before marriage is wrong, quite the opposite. But since my jealousy problem I figured out that a virgin could be better for me. I'm glad you can manage this. Be sure your boyfriend stops talking about the past. That screw*d up my relationship.

[StewieRH]

Dw, he hates talking about it. He used to bring up his ex from time to time and I had to tell him twice that I don't like that before he stopped. Funny thing is I ended up bumping into my ex the last time I saw my boyfriend so spoke a bit to him about it and then he went "Can u stop talking about him now please? U tell me of for it" so maybe he was a bit jealous for once, I dunno

[Sabretooth]

Trust me, you don't wanna compromise your faith... seen where that leads... even done it myself

[StewieRH]

@Sabretooth I can understand what you're saying it's just I'm kind of thinking "But what if I never get married though?" Plus I feel jealous knowing he must've slept with other girls even though it was before we were together, sometimes I think if I had a bit of experience myself it would help me to feel a bit better about it. Another thing is my Mum had me and my brother before she got married and she is the most Christian person I know so sometimes I think "Well if she did it.."

[Sabretooth]

trust when i tell you not to worry about this, the more you do, the more likely you are to succumb. i was in a similar situation, i knew what was at stake, but i allowed my anxiety to blind me, the result? i accomplished everything i was trying to avoid... that was 6 years ago... i'm in constant pain... everyday, i'm wishing to go back, or to wake up and it all had been a nightmare.

[StewieRH]

@Sabretooth I'm sorry you had to go through that and will take what you are saying on board, thank you

[Sabretooth]

Thanks. No problem, good luck

[COMMODOREII]

Oh please any guy can go into a Victoria Secret store, or any Wal_Mart for that matter and can see a bra. What ignorance you have towards our modern day society.

[COMMODOREII]

Oh yeah and by the way every person who has had sexual relations before in theri life have had some form of feelings about their experiences, whether good or bad. That is why I understand that in Judeo-Christian philosophy they suggest you wait till marriage to experience it, in hopes that you and your spouse are the only ones experimenting in it. But I do not agree with it, everyone has a right giving to us as free-will by Our Lord to make our choices, and decisions in life, and no one has a right to judge that person on their choices, unless they be judged for their judgement. (Yeah, you read it, but you dont pay attention to it. Hint, Hint) It is far batter you treat your partner with good intentions, without judgement, no matter what they have done or not done, and remember that sex is not evil. It is how use it or abuse it that it becomes a tool for evil.

[BambooforPanda]

Even though I'm not a fan of your choice to exclude non-virgin girls, I can respect the rationale you have about it, in particular that you have isolated it as being your issue or your preference rather than there being something inherently wrong with non-virgin girls (or even men, which is the argument I'm used to seeing on this site). You're totally right. If you can't come to terms with someones sexual history then the only answer is to end the relationship and find partners who suit you better.

You are likely always going to have opposition to your views on this because for so long female viginity was considered like a kind of property which could only be taken by her husband, while young men were free to be promscuous. As well unmarried women without virginity were regarded as useless, and worse... None of which is true or justifiable.

It's actually very mature to understand what your own psyche that well.

[nalaa]

You have to accept your girlfriend just like she is".
No, you don't.

What people mean is that you shouldn't choose to be with someone that has flaws that you can't live with. However if you do choose to be with them, you should not expect them to change. Obviously

If I decided to only date virgins from now one. Who is going to stop me? -- well possibly the lack of virgins that are interested in you

but I have to try, right? -- no you don't. You can choose to try but don't make it sound like some kind obligation

[COMMODOREII]

That is first piece of logic I have seen so far.

[DeadShot619]

Ya accepting her past isn't the only option. If u can't accept her past then u can leave. There's always more than 1 option

[lumos]

I'm so glad I'm not a virgin anymore so that I'll be able to tell when people are genuinely into me and not into me just because I haven't had sex yet.

[desidoll]

I wish I could give you more than one upvote lol

[sweettckae]

@desidoll I did it for you 😌

[kap_nss]

Is choosing a girl to date the same as judging her? I guess that's kind of a philosophical question. Did I write in my take any qualification about virgin and non-virgin girls? Did I say non-virgins are less valuable than virgins? No, I didn't. I just said what the girl I want to date is like. I even said "Maybe it won't be a virgin really" but from the quality of some comments I guess some of you didn't even read the hole text before freaking out.

[lumos]

I did read your entire take. And I'm still relieved that I don't have to worry about anyone who thinks this hard about virginity.

[TwentySomething]

No sane average guy has ever said, "I wish my wife had slept with more guys". Guys don't care about the number of guys a friends with benefits or a one night stand has had. Guys do consider how many guys a girl has been with if they're considering a long term relationship. It's not insecurity, it's just the way we think. Deal with it. A lot of girls of this generation are going to end up surrounded by cats or being married to a loser they cheat on. Decent guys with options don't want to marry hos. The chickens will come home to roost and you're not going to enjoy it.

[kap_nss]

That doesn't add any value to this discussion. You keep failing to argument and limit yourself to discrediting me. Be rational, not emotional.

[BuchitaBuchys]

This needs more likes.

[kap_nss]

@BuchitaBuchys I'll write a take about how many girls reacted to this take :D

[dimples123]

How does not being a virgin give you insight to knowing people's true intentions?

[kap_nss]

@dimples123 I guess it doesn't.

[WhatAreYouReading]

Yes!! I'm married and I've only ever had sex with my Husband but if died and I was single again I'd totally let the next guy assume my number was big and once I know he doesn't really care I'd tell him the truth. If he'd bail over that I wouldn't even waste my time! Infact my Husband thought I had sooo much more experience then I did and I didn't open up and talk about everything until we were together for a few months, once I knew he was there and was the real deal I told him anything and everything. We have been together for 13 years now (married for 9). We are wildly open with each other about everything and don't do the jealousy thing. If something bothers you usually it has more to do with you then with them and it's up to you to figure out why you feel that way and what you can do to fix it. Different strokes for different folks but I agree with you on the sex thing.

[lumos]

@TwentySomething thankfully things are not quite like this in Finland. :)

[lumos]

myTake owner, I'm being completely rational. Not trying to discredit you. Simply saying I'm glad I don't have to deal with people who think so much about virginity. That is all.

[lumos]

@dimples123 because at least then I know that they're not into me just because I'm a virgin? It's a pretty simple concept.

[desidoll]

@sweettckae aww thanks and now it's 18 duh!

[BuchitaBuchys]

It's a reaction for a reason. I posted my response to you already. But here's the TLDR: Had a woman who was poor, unemployed and didn't have a car written a myTake about how she only wanted to date men with cars and a job, trust me, the men would have reacted as well. Probably calling her every name in the book. Or if she were overweight and wrote a take on how she only wants tall, fit guys, especially if she has no desire to lose weight and become fit herself. Trust me, the people especially men wouldn't be so kind to her. Like I said, it's not so much as the standards themselves, but the fact that you don't hold yourself to the same standards which bothers people.

[lumos]

@BuchitaBuchys I agree!

[SakuraCherryBlossoms]

You said it perfectly. And @WhatAreYouReading I think you have a great idea!!

[mikemx55]

@WhatAreYouReading i gotta tell you: from my point of view while reading this, that is the stupidest thing I've ever read

[mishsheaven]

@WhatAreYouReading I agree. And girls who judge guys who want virgins are sluts

[WhatAreYouReading]

@mikemx55 Haha and that's fine. I think letting people think whatever they want tells you a whole lot about them and can save you a lot of time and energy. I could never that someone who found things like numbers important. Agree to Disagree.

[mikemx55]

@WhatAreYouReading indeed... I rule my life with numbers... how boring huh? :D

[WhatAreYouReading]

@mikemx55 Nope it's whatever works for you :D

[COMMODOREII]

@WhatAreYouReading congrats on your relationship.

[WhatAreYouReading]

@COMMODOREII haha, thanks!

[Minxxie]

This is why I'd be scared to be in the dating world as a virgin, you never know if the guy actually likes you of if he just has some gross little fetish for virgins. I bet you gave up a great girl just because of your fetish. Your loss buddy!

[kap_nss]

Guys never know if the girl they date are telling the truth about their sexual past, including virginity. For the rest just another offensive comment lacking arguments.

[Echelon333]

Lmao If you're not sure everytime if your girlfriend is telling the truth then you shouldn't even be in a relationship with her, you're the problem, not her dude.. and I bet if some girl still tells you the truth you will still doubt that and question her honesty.. Because you know #insecurities

[Minxxie]

@Echelon333 Exactly and there is no medical or scientific way to tell 100% if someone has ever had sex or not anyway. Virginity is an outdated myth and the parameters of what counts as sex and what doesn't are super undefined. Are lesbians and gay men "virgins"forever because they can't have vaginal penetrative sex? If a girl has sucked 100 dicks is she still a virgin? If she's received oral a bunch of times? It's childish and I don't get why people obsess over such an arbitrary little made up thing. There is absolutely no way to know for sure AND once this "virginity" fetishist has sex with a girl he's dating she won't fit his weird little fantasy anymore and he will leave her too!

[mishsheaven]

so you are insecure because the guy you date will like your virginity?

[mishsheaven]

Gay people have nothing to do with virginity/ We are talking about straight girls' virginity. And sucking dick makes her not a virgin

[Minxxie]

@mishsheaven Virginity is a fairy tale used to determine if a girl is worth being sold from one man to another for a higher price. Look up the history behind why it was made up. The word "Virgin" came from a greek word meaning "free" or basically single woman, but then people stole the word and changed it to mean a piece of merchandise that has never been "owned" before. The word stems from a culture of viewing women and girls as nothing but objects for trade. Do your research before you go blindly following shitty ideals.

[COMMODOREII]

This is true, many guys don't know the truth about a woman's intentions. It can be scary for a guy, cause if a woman says she isn't a virgin, and then the guy finds out from obvious "penetrations" that she was, that makes the guy wonder if he damaged her physically, or emototionally. A persons "first-time" can be met with unforseen circumstances. Their expectations can be decimated especially if their partner assumes a certain amount of attributes from them.

[COMMODOREII]

Actually it is our "protestant-bible thumping-supposed-christian" American society, that is so obssessed about sexuality, and virginity, and nudism, and blah blah blah blah. I want to move to Canada, or Europe where they are more mature of these things.

[Minxxie]

@COMMODOREII I live in Canada and unfortunately we have our own little bible-belt and even more unfortunately I live in it! I can't stand it anymore and being harassed by overly religious fanatics on the street and I have realised this is not the university for me or for that matter the city for me! So I am moving to British Columbia next year which will be much more moderate than a small hick city in the middle of the prairies of Alberta! It's dreadful!

[GingerBear]

My biggest problem with this is that it took you three years to decide you cared that much about her past. That's a dick move.
I don't give a flying fuck about whether you only want to date virgins. It's incredibly hypocritical, but hey, that's between you and those girls.

[kap_nss]

It's interesting how many girls freaked out about this article. I guess that's a sign of immaturity when you can't disagree without insulting. And you can't explain why you disagree. Not a single freaked out girl here did answer to this question so far: "Have you dated every single guy who asked you out or was interested in you?" Not answering that is hypocritical.

[dipta]

What's ridiculous in this story is that you dated this girls for THREE long years, before deciding to pull the plug for something she was from the start. That's called taking advantage of people, and that was you taking advantage of her.

Why would someone who dated someone else for three years be only interested in virgin girls feom now one? Not saying you won't find one, but it sounds twisted.

[kap_nss]

I guess you didn't read my original question where I gave details about that.

[BuchitaBuchys]

You have every right to have your standards. But we have every right to tell you how unreasonable they are.
Let me give you hints why people, especially women, are bothered by this:
A. People, especially on this site, see it as "hypocritical standards" - you demanding certain characteristics of your partner that you do not have. In this case, and far too many, you demanding a virgin woman, when you in fact are not.
If a woman was promiscuous, but demanded a virgin to settle down with, most men would freak out. Hell, even if he had a few partners, him in the single digits but her well into the double digits, they'd consider that unreasonable standards for her.
But that's rare. Let me give an example more applicable to men. Women aren't as bothered by sexual psst as men are. Let's say she was poor. She was unemployed and had no car. But she demanded her boyfriend to have a job and a car. People, especially the men on here, would freak out, calling her every name in the book.
B. Me, personally, I think you're gonna end up alone and bitter for a while because you're gonna have a hard time finding a virgin in your age group. The ones you DO manage to find, would most likely prefer fellow virgin men because virgins prefer virgins. You are severely limiting yourself. And let's face it, men have enough of a challenge getting dates as is.

As long as you're upfront about it and don't insult the women who don't meet your standards, then I say good luck to you, you're gonna need it lol

[BuchitaBuchys]

But, what's more bothersome is that you waited 3yrs to dump her over this? Wow. Smh. At least you did it now, she deserves so much better. Are you sure you're 30? Aren't you a bit too old to be this insecure? I can get how you don't want her to have her body count in the hundreds, but to demand virgins? That's a bit unreasonable. I'm so glad I'm not a virgin anymore so men who actually are interested in me, not just my "purity", can be the only ones after me. Those who like me for me.

[Vesuvius87]

Well explained. You saved me a lot from explaining all that. Another thing to consider, many of those young virgin girls in their early 20's (esp if they are traditional) have friends and family members that greatly want the best for her. I doubt they are going to be all welcoming to a 30+ year-old, experienced man that's seeking for only virgins.

[Vesuvius87]

I agree, he's going to have a hard time.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Vesuvius87 lol yes, especially that. I didn't even think about that part. I'm glad though, I hope this crashes and burns before it's too late.

[kap_nss]

When you say "But we have every right to tell you how unreasonable they are" that includes insulting me? Because I've been insulted a lot for this take. Anyway, I understand your point of course. But you know what. If anyone out there is allowed to ask for certain standards if and only if they meet those standards also, then everyone here is hypocritical. Not single person here dates people who are exactly like them in every possible aspect. That's ridiculous. Chose any of this girls or guys who insulted me here. See who they date or who their partners are. You will find out that their partners are better in some standards that they are. It's natural. All this haters turn down people for some reason. Looks, weight, height, social status, intelligence, hair color, skin color, race, political ideas, religious believes, whatever. And they are not perfect pieces, right? If I date a girl I would never lie about my non-virgin status. It will be up to her to date me anyway.

[Echelon333]

We're not here to insult you and have our fun with it lol We're trying to open your goddamn eyes and help you see that what you're doing is so wrong and bad for yourself first, and then for the future new virgin girlfriend... I really felt bad for your ex as I've said before and for your relationship too, you could've ended up getting married, being happy af with her, having kids, you never know.. and she loves you, and you're throwing that away just because of a jealousy and insecurity. And believe me, if you've been 3y together she really does love you a lot, and her world just turned upside down, because of your no virgin - no girlfriend policy You could just stop and forget about her past sexual life, but that's too hard for you right? Because any other person has it easy/easier lol She chose you to be her man, and you let her you.. by the way could you message me some of her past sex life actions, really curious what's so "bad" about it..

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Echelon333 I'm not even trying to insult him. It's a legit question lol I want to know why a 30yr old man is still THIS insecure. He's not going to listen. *le sigh* He'll just have to learn the hard way :/

[Echelon333]

Which is why I'm trying to help him, so he shouldn't learn the hard way and again break another girl/woman heart. And then replace her again and again, because "he didn't know he'd feel that way in 1,5 years, he can't see the future... "

[COMMODOREII]

BuchitaBuchys, you do not have every right to tell him how unreasonable his standards are. That is his life and how he wishes to live by them. Should we judge you on how you live, and what every choice you make every day of your life? That is what many people of this country do not seem to understand that they have a right to tell people what to do, or to judge them by how they are living. You may have a right to live how you live, but we have a right to live how we live, and you can not change that.

[COMMODOREII]

@Echelon333 Sometimes you can't open others eyes, when they do not want to see it. You sometimes just have to let them make their mistakes, and let them live their life. It is the only way they will ever learn from the past. Maybe he will change, maybe he won't but at least you can say that You did not follow in the same path, and hope to be a good person on your path of life.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@COMMODOREII ok. Cool.

[Vesuvius87]

Good luck finding a family who will accept a 30+ year-old guy making the ''only virgin girls but I'm not'' rule dating their virgin daughter who is most likely either just got out of HS or in her early 20's.

If you find a virgin woman your age, more than likely she is going to be religious. You're going to have a super hard time.

If you think even having one boyfriend is still too much for a girl (esp one that's close to your age), then you got serious issues.

[COMMODOREII]

Hey not all women lose their virginity at an early age, nor do many men. You think that everyone lives by your standards? We are all different. When I was growing up, I had a friend, a woman who was 36, and she was a virgin, and i was 19. It was great when she finally found someone she could feel comfortable with and get married, it was the best day of their lives. I never judged her, or him for that matter. They were happy, and they finally found each other, and i thinkthats great. So dont put down someone, who decides to be a virgin, and call them "religious", how the hell do you know what their beliefs are, you are only insighting more hatred, than logic.

[ksoma]

You were with her for 3 years, and you left her, and ended those three years of commitment, because of her sexual history. Before you. She wasn't cheating, she wasn't being disloyal, she simple had sex with someone, before you.
And you knew this. This wasn't something she just dropped on you. You KNEW this. You said you knew about this a year and a half ago.

Now, to be fair, you have not said what her history was. For all we know, she had gangbang parties regularly, and went through more guys on a weekend than most girls will in their lives.
But to be fair? YOU HAVE NOT SAID WHAT HE HISTORY WAS, and for all we know, she had sex with one other guy, who she was in a committed relationship with, before she met you.

And you, you dirty hypocrite. You are no virgin. What right do you have to condemn a woman for having any sex of any kind in the past, and insisting that no woman who has ever been touched could possibly be good enough for you, when you are not offering them the same in return?

I get, totally, completely, 100%, not wanting a slut. No guy wants to be the man that, after 12 years of jumping dick to dick, she settles for. No guy wants to get into a committed relationship with a woman who doesn't even know how many people she has slept with, what half of their names were, or if they were even clean. The only guys who want sluts are the guys looking for a cheap fuck.

But sex? Sex happens. Maybe it was a one time hook up and a mistake. Maybe she was in a serious relationship. But people have sex. That is part of life. You do not have to accept, forgive, and move past her sexual history if it involved blowing an entire football team on a dare, but if she has had a boyfriend or two before you, and fucked 'em, before she ended up with you? That's fucking life. So unless you have model looks, a six figure income, and a 14 inch cock made of pure gold that can make a woman orgasm just by looking at it, maybe you need to get off your moral high horse, recognize that people are people, and that by leaving her after so long together because of things YOU KNEW ABOUT that happened LONG BEFORE YOU SHOWED UP, that makes you the asshole!

I have no problem with someone preferring a virgin, but if you are not one? And you entered into a relationship knowing she was not one? Deciding later that she isn't pure enough for you is nothing but a dick move. She's better off without you. At some level, you do accept people for their past, even their mistakes.

[LaurenGrace]

Looks like you want a unicorn at at end of a rainbow farting gold coins into a pot... but you can't get past the fact that the unicorn is owned by a lepricon.

Dude get over the fact she has a past.. you have too past too you are not perfect and she lovesyou that is why she is a brokenhearted girl right now.. and frankly you dont deserve her but go make it up to her and stop being a dickhead

[PrincessTashaaaa]

I feel this way about my husbands porn use. He has since stopped watching it around me, and this was three years ago. But I still have huge insecurities because of it. Funny, I don't care about girls he's slept with before me, but I care about his porn use? It's all personal criteria like you said, I guess.

[davidpossey]

why do you really want to date virgins? is it cuz you feel insecure sexually? you dont think you are as good as those guys she had sex with? in the end its your choice to date virgins if you want but dont let it come from a place of insecurity

[kap_nss]

Yes, all that and more.

[davidpossey]

what if you meet an amazing girl you really like but she is not a virgin are you gonna let your insecurity stop you from being with her?

[kap_nss]

Did you actually read my take? I just did it. Not that I'm happy with that but thoughts about her past would never leave me alone and were driving me crazy.

[davidpossey]

try checkin out rsd videos

[fauchelevent]

Meh, if you only want a non-virgin girl, that's up to you. Everyone else is just entitled to call you an asshole for that if they want to.

[TwentySomething]

Why are they entitled to call him an asshat? Because you don't agree?

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething No, because that's the way things work? You're entitled to have your opinion, make it public and follow through with it but other people are entitled to disagree with you and say how they feel too.

[TwentySomething]

You make it sound as if everyone should call him an asshat. I share his view. I'll never start a serious relationship with a promiscuous girl.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething I never used the term 'asshat' and I don't think that everyone should call him one. I'm saying that if they do here, he can't get up in arms about it because by making your opinion known, especially one many people would see as incredibly narrow minded, you are opening yourself up to criticism and that is to be expected.

[TwentySomething]

I think shaming people on their preferences is wrong. He doesn't want to date promiscuous girls, now he's getting hate mail and shaming from women.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething That is the risk you take when you put controversial things on the internet. He put up the article knowing that his opinion would upset people, if he thought no one would care, he wouldn't write it. If he receives backlash for his opinion, that is just the way that it works. He's allowed to say what he wants, and he did. Others are allowed to respond, and they will and he knew that when writing the article and chose to put it up anyway.

[TwentySomething]

A guy not wanting to date a whore shouldn't be taboo. People are more accepting of people marrying animals. Society is fucked up if a guy can't say he wants to marry a virgin.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething Except clearly he can say it, that's the whole point of the article. He's said it, no one has attempted to stop him and no one's going to take down what he wrote. He expressed his opinion so he can say it. Other people can respond and it's ridiculous if you think that people shouldn't be allowed to do that.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething Resorting to insults? Well, you sure showed me, you clearly have the intellectual high ground here. I might think that the responses he's getting are a little extreme but, once more, that is the way freedom of speech works. He knew that he would probably upset people with this, otherwise he wouldn't have written it and obviously he was fully prepared for that and doesn't need you to fight his battles for him - and to do so rather poorly, I might add. He expressed himself and no one stopped him. Now other people are allowed to do the same, it's only fair.

[kap_nss]

@TwentySomething I don't give a sh*t about those who insult me instead of disagreeing with me in a civilized manner. It just I like discussions and rational arguments, and haters don't make good discussions. They focus in insulting you and miss the central point.

[TwentySomething]

Yeah, most of these girls sound insecure because they're promiscuous. They're terrified of the idea that guys might not want them because of what they've done. Actions have consequences and they're just now realizing the price they're going to pay.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething I don't think that going without someone who seems to think a girl's worth is somehow less because she had sex is really that big of a price, honestly.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething Dude, I've been in a monogamous long-term relationship for almost 4 and a half years and he's the only person I've slept with. We've known each other for 8 years and didn't have any kind of sexual contact until we'd been together for 6 months. Preeeeetty sure there's nothing whorish there. But no, it doesn't terrify me that men may think less of women for having sex with them. I'm not scared of that, if a guy thinks a woman is worth less because she slept with men, men are obviously the dirty ones and I'd be best off avoiding them anyway, no? However, it is disappointing that so many people hold those views.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething So because you can't continue to call me a whore, you decide to call me a 'progressive beta'? You lose a lot of credit when you just start trolling.

[TwentySomething]

Wasn't talking to you, genius.

[fauchelevent]

@TwentySomething Right, so you're talking to the guy who not only agreed with you but also hasn't spoken for the past six posts? Sure, sweetie :)

[kap_nss]

I'm sitting here watching you two insult each other.

[fauchelevent]

I'm keeping most of my insults back. He's the one calling me a whore when he knows nothing about me or my relationship and tried to say I was stupid, dude.

[kap_nss]

Well, you stopped by to tell me everyone is entitle to call me an assh*le. And I didn't insult you ever. I don't see much difference between you and him.

[fauchelevent]

I said that people could call you an asshole and disagree with you. I didn't call you an asshole, I don't actually consider you an asshole, I repeatedly defended your right to say what you'd like and I didn't express any of my personal beliefs until I was asked about them. This dude is calling people whores, implying they're stupid, trying to say that people shouldn't have freedom of speech and randomly calling people 'betas' without provocation. So yeah. I see a big difference between me and him.

[kap_nss]

Well, maybe I took your comment wrong. People can call me an assh*le and a lot of them actually did. But that's not an adult reaction to someone you disagree with. And that also avoids the civilized discussion about the subject. Basically ruins the discussion and in the end it shows how much this people lack of arguments to support their position.

[fauchelevent]

It does, though when your article makes it seem like you think women who have sex are less valuable or worthy of you than virgin women and your whole relationship will hinge on virginity when you yourself are not a virgin, you should probably be able to understand why people would be upset by that and may find you unpleasant and hypocritical.

[kap_nss]

For a start my article doesn't say "women who have sex are less valuable or worthy". I said I want to date a virgin girl. And I referred to the details of my own story. If you read that it's really easy to understand why. There is nothing in what I wrote stating non-virgins are less valuable. And I said that already in several comments down below. The "women who have sex are less valuable or worthy" idea is in the mind of those who insulted me after "reading" such a concept in a text which doesn't say that at all. My take even says "Maybe it won't be a virgin really" but no one took that into account. Because they chose what to read. They wanted to insult me. They picked up the parts they needed to justify that. And all that because they don't have arguments. It is kind of sad seeing that among a lot of people almost no one was able to keep a civilized discussion.

[SarahsSummer]

I think it is a ridiculous reason to end a relationship and in no way is akin to your other examples ( smoker 1st date sex)
You are 30 years old. If you only want virgins, troll the high school yards but good luck with the law. Or better yet, become a suicide bomber and get 72 virgins after accidentally blowing up while alone somewhere. But I digress, I truly think you just need more time in therapy.

[kap_nss]

It scares to see how many people went about that perverse idea of going to look for highschool girls. How f*cked up.

[SarahsSummer]

No more f*cked than proclaiming you only want to defile virgins.

[kap_nss]

Non-sense

[SarahsSummer]

Yes, your take was.

[COMMODOREII]

I think this is where everyone is standing on one side of the room, and SarahsSummer is standing on the other side of the room, and we are like, "Woah, dont go there".

[SarahsSummer]

@COMMODOREII yeah, I'm on the side that says be open minded to a relationship of any regard and he's on the side of I only want a virgin and nothing else will do. Seems to be a lot more room to move around on my side than his isolated corner of nowhere'sville.

[redeyemindtricks]

@COMMODOREII Nah, sarah's quick with the witty replies. If I were a boy, that kinda thing would make me hot, in a "oh shit I better step to that" sorta way. (;

[ObscuredBeyond]

It's not that she had sex, so much as what she was willing to do to get it, that troubles you. She crossed some lines to get to he prize she hadn't earned, and that creates in you a doubt regarding what other lines she's willing to cross to get other things she hasn't earned - as well as what might become of you should your mere existence ever be in her way.

She was able to do all that to all those men, and keep you in the dark this long. What's next? Where do you draw that line?

As a corollary, you must ask yourself: Has she learned from her mistakes? Is she willing to rise above who she was then? If she already clearly has, and you still say no, you don't deserve her.

If she is clearly impenitent regarding everything, then you have a right to doubt her fidelity, and a right to move on.

[mikemx55]

I had to scroll a lot to find a reasonable comment. Thank you!

[godfatherfan]

The issue is you need a therapist to get over this ridiculos line of thinking. 1) the past has no bearing on your relationship. I never understood why young people want to talk about past sexual history. I didn't want to know my ex wife's and was forced to hear about it. 2) look at divorce rates. All of use went into marriage thinking "it won't be me". And though I had no desire to be divorced, it was forced on me. Your desire for virgins, which is horrible in my opinion, has a very short window. once you get to your mid 20's and up, say bye bye to that forever. and if you end up in your 40's like me, your looking at many many sexual partners. Do you want a woman to judge you based on the women you fucked. Your not a virgin so why should she be?
my motto... Never be a woman's first, or last...

[itsallover]

This take just screams insecurity. Are you that unhappy with yourself that you just HAVE to be with a virgin girl to compensate? And nothing else even remotely matters other than the fact she has an unpenetrated vagina?

[TwentySomething]

It's not about insecurity. I know plenty of dudes who are far from insecure who care about how many guys a girl has been with. No sane average guy has ever said, "I wish my wife had slept with more guys". Guys don't care about the number of guys a friends with benefits or a one night stand has had. Guys do consider how many guys a girl has been with if they're considering a long term relationship. It's not insecurity, it's just the way we think. Deal with it. A lot of girls of this generation are going to end up surrounded by cats or being married to a loser they cheat on. Decent guys with options don't want to marry hos. The chickens will come home to roost and you're not going to enjoy it.

[itsallover]

@TwentySomething Sir, a guy that dumps a woman he was dating for THREE WHOLE YEARS because of her sexual past, is insecure. Sorry.

[TwentySomething]

Lol when girls hear something they don't like they automatically say "it's because he's insecure!". Stop being pathetic. Some guys won't date whores. Deal with it.

[itsallover]

@TwentySomething lol don't worry, you can live your life being hung up about other guy's penises being in your girlfriends' vagina to your hearts content. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. How is a girl who's only been with one guy a whore? And how can you even prove that a girl is a virgin?

[TwentySomething]

You sound insecure about the number of people you've been with... You're worried about people calling you a whore, aren't you?

[itsallover]

@TwentySomething LOL if sleeping with one guy makes me a whore then yeah, I'm quaking in my boots.

[TwentySomething]

What else have you done? Or are you one of those girls that say certain experiences dont' count because you were drunk, regret it, etc. You sound hella insecure.

[itsallover]

@TwentySomething Wrong. Try out your attempts at pseudo-interrogation on someone else. I haven't got time :)

[kap_nss]

This take just screams "guys have the right to choose their girls for whatever reason". Everything else is rubbish and hypocrisy. No girl in this post has answered whether she dated every guy who asked her out. And the reason for not answering is girls turn guys down for superfluous and stupid reasons. And pretend to tell others what reasons are good or not for turning a girl down. :)

[itsallover]

So are you expecting everyone to agree with your reasons for wanting a virgin girl? Reality check: not everyone is going to agree with your rationale, and have the right to call you out on it. Just like you have the right to say that girls turn down guys for 'superfluous and stupid' reasons, I have the right to say the same for your choice to only date virgins.

[kap_nss]

No, I just expect everyone agree with the right of others to choose their partners for the reasons they like.

[Echelon333]

@TwentySomething "No sane average guy has ever said, "I wish my wife had slept with more guys" " You're right about this (although I don't get if you reffer to average for penis length or a decent guy lol) and I don't want that either, no guy that loves his partner wants it, but I really don't care if she has been sexually active before me lol She's with me now, why would I care about her previous relationships (that obviously failed..) and her sex past when I can just enjoy NOW and be the happiest man alive with her? (woah shocker right, you can actually enjoy in the fuc*ing present with your loved one and you can stop being an insecure jealous baby) And those plenty of dudes you know of that are not insecure at all, they're jealous lel even worse than being insecure.. They're questioning themselves if they can do better, be better than her previous lovers, like it's a competition. Go on, ask them and see the reason behind it.

[Echelon333]

@TwentySomething After reading his other post now, posted about a month ago, IT IS about insecurity and mostly jealousy lmao.. He was jealous of the guy she was having sex with which was friends with benefits, and she always came back to him after being with other guys because he was the best, and the asker didn't know if he can top that (because it's all about that sex competition among her exes and him -.-' which is also childish af) and if he can beat his highscore lol That alone screams jealousy and lot of insecurities... And that's the reason he now wants only virgins, and if you're too blind to see the logic behind this you're in the same box as him bruh... You have over 50 peopleses saying it's wrong and retarded and not good for yourself, and you two just keep being stubborn and go against everyone with your dumb af reasons behind this..

[itsallover]

@Echelon333 You have sense 👌

[COMMODOREII]

@Echelon333 Finally some logic from a guy. Woohoo!!!

[Darkone1]

Its your life if you don't like it then on't do it and HI ! don't listen to chicks cuz this non-virgin stupidity is only common is US even Europe is better than our US and if you go further its all about virginity and 98% of chicks were virgin when they marry and the result is 98% were happily married to their first husband and their divorce ratio is less than us and Hi chicks are not gona like it cuz if they promote this Who gona marry them so continue your hunt you may find one.

[Berethor]

Yes pure and first hand girls are the best, but it's hard to find them, so some guys are compromising on used goods. You right, a guy don't have to accept an girl that had many other dicks on her.

tvtropes.org/.../NatureAdoresAVirgin

[kap_nss]

I didn't say that. I said a guy doesn't have to accept a girl he doesn't like for any reason.

[Vesuvius87]

So having one boyfriend in her whole life and whom the relationship has been long over and she doesn't want to get back with him is used goods too? So basically, she's now condemned to be used goods forever even if it was within a relationship?

[Berethor]

It's almost the same principle as having an children from other guy, I might understand why the girl did it in some cases, but it don't change the fact that she is having much less value for most other guys now. It's isn't our fault that the non-virgin girl give up her purity to other guy, if she break up then it's most likely that she choice the wrong guy, and their is an consequences for bad decisions. If the girl was living by the most true monogamous principle of being together until death do them apart, then she was not having this problem right now. If she had one boyfriend in long relationship then I would not say that she is an slut, but she is still an used goods for the new guy, and yes it's for the rest of her life.

[Remonster]

It's a preference that restricts you quite a bit (in this hypersexual society), but it's a preference like any other nonetheless and I can certainly understand why someone would choose to after. Don't let anyone shame you into thinking otherwise just because your criteria hurts their precious little feelings and/or world views.

Shaming tactics are growing increasingly rampant among males too. It's ass.

[TheDevilInside]

It's sexist creeps like you I hate the most. The guy can be non-virgin but the girl has to? Once a girl is no longer a Virgin she loses value to you? What if she was raped? Also, if you put so much value to someone having been fucked in the past, how do you feel about your own past? Logically, you would also See yourself as having no value since you're no longer "pure" as well. If you accept your own past but can't accept here, not only you're a hypocrite, but you're also one of the douchiest Kind of assholes out there. People come with a past and a baggage in all sorts of manners. If you can't accept this, fuck your loyal Hand the Rest or your life because really, you don't deserve an actual human being (you don't want an actual human being anyway, since they all come with a past and a baggage). Or get one of those real rolls. They're Brand New and custom-made to your liking. No personality, no past. Perfect, right?

[mishsheaven]

If she was raped then she is still a virgin morally.

[TheDevilInside]

Not to peopl like him, I'm sure. Things tend to be black and white for his Kind @mishsheaven

[mishsheaven]

He never said if she is raped then she is a slut. SO lets not make assumptions

[kap_nss]

I stopped reading after sexist. lol

[TheDevilInside]

Hurt by the truth, I See.

[kap_nss]

No, I saw a sign of a resentful comment.

[TheDevilInside]

Uh huh. Sure. Whatever, sexist creep.

[SunsetRose]

It's fine for you to want to date a virgin but don't get upset if she says she only wants to date a virgin too

[Berethor]

Fair enough, but usually guys are caring for their partner purity much more then girls.

tvtropes.org/.../MadonnaWhoreComplex

[CupcakeKiller]

Lulz you're fucking 30. Grow up.

[kap_nss]

Just another freaked out girl making an irrational comment.

[CupcakeKiller]

Yep. I was just about to ask you out and you ruined it for me.

[kap_nss]

Forget it. Lol.

[CupcakeKiller]

@TwentySomething Omg I missed this site so much lmfao

[CupcakeKiller]

@TwentySomething damn that's very bad news for me then. I'm going to lose so much sleep over it tonight. Bummer.

[CupcakeKiller]

@TwentySomething dogs* I don't like cats.

[jacquesvol]

The take owner might have some problems to find a 30 yo virgin girl. ;-)

[milightman]

Less competition for me. I'm starting to like how things are turning out in the dating scene. More self-proclaimed nice guys coming out, you got MGTOW, fuckbois, and more of this. I don't have any kids going on 24 either, and the future is looking pretty good too, so my competition is definitely dwindling up to this point.

But being an asshole aside. I'm going to say this. Yes you have every right to date any preference you have in mind. I even noticed how weren't referring to her as a slut. But you're going to see that a woman's lack of a sexual past isn't going to make her a better woman. You'll probably end up hurt by this virgin girl you envision. But since you want to be about a persons past, you're also going to run into this problem. A girl that is a virgin you may deem fit for you, won't find you fit for her. Because for you to treasure a woman's sexuality as a means to break up three years later in a relationship. Shows how dedicated you are to someone. And a woman who's holding out as long as she is, would only want that, and examples of that, which you don't have. Not to mention, she won't like the fact that her virginity is one of the top of the list reasons you're dating her. Because you're focusing on her sexuality no matter how you twist it or not.

It's not that you're insecure. But limiting beliefs refuse to see the bigger picture here. Especially the fact that someone's past isn't doing any direct harm to you, nor shows any consequence or behavior.

[kap_nss]

This take was all about our right to have our own preferences without being insulted. As you can see it is hard to get people to accept this even when it is non of their business. And they are hypocritical too, because they turn down other people for silly and superfluous reasons. But they want to tell others which reasons are not allowed.

[milightman]

Yeah, I get that. You have every right to have a preference. But you're comparing apples and oranges here on the subject. But we're talking about someone's sexual activity here, not whether or not they have bad habits that's a deal breaker, or no common interests or beliefs that would hold show compatibility. Like take a good look at yourself. What would make you such a prize to a girl who's waiting for someone special. To them their sexuality isn't something of priority. But you insist on making it that way.

[kap_nss]

I've seen people turned down because of their skin color, looks, habits, and specially because of their past. Would you date a girl who's been sleeping around? I guess you would. Would you if she has been a prostitute (but she is not anymore)? Well, maybe you think this one twice because of STDs, but let's say you do. Would you date a girl who cheated on every one of her ten previous boyfriends? Would you date a girl who's been in jail for armed robbery? Am I hypocritical?

[milightman]

Again you're comparing apples to oranges here. You're asking me if I'd date a girl who is a serial cheater and has no intention of stopping. You're implying if I'd have sex with a girl who admits to presently having an STD. So how does this compare to someone who has sex within relationships or when single? I could careless, in fact, I've dated girls who've been with more than enough guys to scare you, and not care. A girl that was an escort and has no permanent STD's, that could impact my life and health, wouldn't give a fuck as long as she's a great girl.

[milightman]

The first things you mention can go both ways. Is the person racist or doesn't have any physical attraction towards someone's physical traits? The first is one would be a problem. The second not at all because they find that they aren't attracted, I repeat, attracted, you know the thing that isn't related to belief, but to certain physical traits in what pulls them to that person. If someone who has past habits that exist today in which could harm me, I'm only protecting myself to stay away from that person. So when you ask me questions that aren't parallel to virginity. It makes no absolute sense. You don't even describe a valid why to your case. Just I won't date women who aren't virgins. You try so hard to demonstrate logic but don't know how to appropriately put together a valid argument. You compare things that don't relate to try and justify your beliefs.

[kap_nss]

Blah, blah, blah... you judge girls for their past just like me. But you care about different things. And all your criticism about my preference is equally valid for your preferences.

[milightman]

I clearly stated otherwise you're just resorting to being childish because you don't have shit to say. In other words, grow up buddy :)

[xXiTacoXx]

You commented on @Queen66's post and said you had sex with her. So why should a girl who is a virgin waste her time with a hypocrite like yourself who isn't one? I don't think you have the right to judge sexual past and go virgin hunting when you yourself aren't a virgin and you also have a past. Boy gtfo with that shit.

[kap_nss]

I wrote this take because of people like you, who think they can tell other what they have to do. But you said something interesting: "I don't think you have the right to judge sexual past and go virgin hunting when you yourself aren't a virgin and you also have a past". This means my girlfriend never had the right to take my virginity because she had a past. BTW: I have the right to choose the girl I like. Just like she has the right to choose me. I'd never lie to her.

[xXiTacoXx]

And she has the right to stay away from hypocrites which I hope she does.

[kap_nss]

But what about my ex-girlfriend and what you said? Was she a virgin hunter with me?

[xXiTacoXx]

She probably genuinely liked you for you, and not your virginity. You on the other hand seem dead set on virgin hunting.

[xXiTacoXx]

And if a virgin girl is dumb enough to fall for you, what are you going to do if you become her first? Dump her because she's no longer a virgin?

[kap_nss]

No I'm not for hunting virgins, that's a total non-sense. I just wrote I won't date a non-virgin girl. I'd date a girl I like just like I did in the past, but only if she is a virgin. No hunting, no nothing. Just a preference. I find it hypocritical that people who chooses other people all the time for whatever reason, comes here to tell me that I can't have a preference or a criteria of my own. Do you date any guy who ask's you out? Do I have to believe you accept anything? I don't think so. Then why are your parameters better than mines?

[xXiTacoXx]

Because I only date those who I have a deep connection with since I'm demisexual. My situation isn't because I have preference, but because of my sexual orientation. I don't care about a guys looks, or if he's a virgin or not, or any status he has as long as I connect with him. Do I date everyone? No. But that's because I'm rarely ever attracted to anyone. Heck, it even took a long time for me to be sexually attracted to my own boyfriend, but now that I am I hope he's my first. :T If you don't know what a demisexual is I'll give you the definition. demisexual  Demisexuals are characterized by a lack of sexual attraction toward any person unless they become deeply emotionally or romantically connected with a specific person or persons. The level of connection it takes for sexual desire to form is dependent on how close the relationship is rather than initial attraction. It is an orientation that is not chosen.

[xXiTacoXx]

Demisexuality does not refer to the active restraint or repression of sexual desires or actions. Demi- is a prefix meaning half. This is used to mean halfway between sexual and asexual. The term originated in the asexual community, specifically within the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN).

[kap_nss]

That much information about demisexuals is way off topic. What you have there is an excuse for doing what you tell others not to do. You don't date anyone. Just like everyone else there you turn down some guys for whatever reason. And you think that your reasons are good. But mines aren't. Who is being hypocritical here?

[xXiTacoXx]

You're still the hypocritical one. Mine isn't because I feel entitled something even though I don't fit the criteria myself. Yours on the other hand are and that's what makes you a hypocrite.

[kap_nss]

Sorry you last reply doesn't make any sense.

[xXiTacoXx]

It makes plenty of sense.

[TwentySomething]

No sane average guy has ever said, "I wish my wife had slept with more guys". Guys don't care about the number of guys a friends with benefits or a one night stand has had. Guys do consider how many guys a girl has been with if they're considering a long term relationship. It's not insecurity, it's just the way we think. Deal with it. A lot of girls of this generation are going to end up surrounded by cats or being married to a loser they cheat on. Decent guys with options don't want to marry hos. The chickens will come home to roost and you're not going to enjoy it.

[xXiTacoXx]

@TwentySomething I'm not saying he should get with someone he see's as a hoe, but I don't think he has the right to want only virgins when he is not one himself. That's like me saying I only want sexually experience men because they have a high partner count and know what they're doing when I myself am a virgin and that would make me a hypocrite. It's stupid:T

[TwentySomething]

He doesn't have the right to have a preference? GTFO. I didn't even bother reading the rest because I knew it would be emotional nonsense.

[xXiTacoXx]

@TwentySomething It's not emotional nonsense, and you would know this if you read it. He can have a preference, but his ass is basically making it a requirement. So you can GTFO with your stupidity.

[xXiTacoXx]

@TwentySomething Not insecure about anything. And you obviously didn't read what I posted. I said that they can date whoever the fuck they want, but the shouldn't be complete effing hypocrites by cutting out those who are like them.

[xXiTacoXx]

@TwentySomething I'm actually virgin (as in an only ever kissed a guy virgin) thanks to my demisexuality and rarely ever finding people sexually attractive and even then I hold back because I don't want to regret my first time you twat. I even used my being a virgin as an example in one of my other posts, but you said you didn't finish reading it. I'm saying it because I don't think she should be cutting out those with experience from his dating pool and expect a virgin girl while he's experienced himself, and in someone else's comment he even mentioned not waiting to wait for marriage to have sex. He's only after a chicks virginity and it's creepy. There's enough hypocritical virgin hunters in the world as it is we don't need anymore.

[singlebee]

Yes he is a big hypocrite :-)

[xXiTacoXx]

@singlebee Thank you for being a man with common sense on my comments opinions. You are praise worthy.

[singlebee]

Ha-ha welcome I told him that it's her past then he should get over it.. Or follow the 'don't tell and don't ask policy' Lol

[Elena_the_Star]

As a virgin, I think I am qualified to give you my opinion, hm?
You can date a girl who matches your values- which is virginity in this case, ( only if you are one yourself, otherwise you are just a shameless hypocrite)
but if you come to love a girl and THEN come to know she's not a virgin, do you really want to loose everything special you have with her over her past? Sometimes you should think if this virginity is really a good indicator of someone's worth. Maybe they did it only because they were pressured by their families, religion or society and given the chance otherwise they would have lost it, much earlier. So now do you think being with someone who's a virgin who will treat sex as a prize and most likely be a prude about it, worth losing someone who really connects with you otherwise? Think about it.
I am a virgin and though I would like my guy to be virgin too for my first time so its special to both even if he isn't it won't matter at the end, if I love him and he loves me. I know its useless posting here since my ex was the same and it was the same putting value on what lies between a woman's legs charade. Thanks for reading.

[COMMODOREII]

You are not qualified to provide an opinion to his decision, he has every right to choose who he wants in life, and who does not want in life. If that person says she is a virgin, and then lied about it with bad intentions, then he has every right to choose to be with her, or dump her. It is better to break up what is not real, than live a lie just to satisfy your philosophy. If that woman is willing to lie to him about who she is, or her past, then how will their marriage or partnership survive on a foundation of lies. They must always be truthful even in the beginning.

[Elena_the_Star]

@COMMODOREII I have every right to post my opinion and if you don't like it, scroll down. That is a very superficial thing to do but I didn't say he has no right to do so, I said he should think it over if it really matters. Learn the difference.

[AleDeEurope]

Though I'm not a virgin-chaser, and I don't care if a girl is a virgin or not, I get and agree with what you're saying.
We choose a partner for ourselves, so we need them to have what we want. Sure, no one is gonna have everything, but the most important things should be a must have.

There's no girl out there that doesn't judge a man for his past. I've been judged for everything I've done, and I accept it when a girl tells me she doesn't want me because of something I did, or something I don't have. I can't force someone to be with me and to accept every aspect of my life.

Most of these girls in GAG are too **** to accept that they're not the center of the world. Don't expect them to understand that they also have flaws, and that guys don't have to deal with all of their bullshit.

[kap_nss]

Man, thanks. I was about to think no one here read the articles they criticized. You are right "There's no girl out there that doesn't judge a man for his past" and I'd add "There's no guy out there that doesn't judge a girl for his past".

[AleDeEurope]

Yeah, it applies to guy's too. I just mentioned girls because these girls on this Take don't seem to want to be judged, but they're the first ones to judge you and say no because of your past. The past made you who you are today, you can't just ignore it and accept everything a person has done. Many of these girls would say NO if asked if they would date a guy that had previously cheated on a girlfriend, cause apparently women can change, but guys will always stay the same... GAG logic.

[kap_nss]

You are totally right. And even more, many of these girls and guys freaking out about my take would turn down people for the most superfluous reasons you may think of. And worst, you can bet many of the cheat or cheated on their partners. But then I'm the evil because I'm honest.

[PippiL]

Virgins want virgins. That's the problem.

[mishsheaven]

I am a virgin and want a NON virgin. And this is not a problem. Lol

[COMMODOREII]

@mishsheaven Well Im a NON-Virgin, and I dont care what the woman is or isn't. I just want her to be responsible, non-judgemental, mature, and well off financially. I am tired of putting up with girls, i want a woman. you know?

[PippiL]

@mishsheaven You're seventeen. Thirty year old virgins are virgins by choice.

[mishsheaven]

I may die a virgin if I don't find the right man. This willbe my choice

[hazoplmeught]

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[kap_nss]

Waste-of-time

[wrightontime]

Waste of Time? I like this one! The truth hurts you huge ass hypocrite.

[BertMacklinFBI]

damn daniel.. back in the white vans!

thats my tone lol

[Minxxie]

OH. hahahaha

[WalterRadio]

The morality of virginity was established thousands of years ago, when women were property, very similar to one's slaves. Women were often married at 13, 14, 15; sometimes 12. The chances were high they would die in childbirth. The men would often die in wars and injuries too. Life was short.

Fast forward to today and the average of of marriage for a woman is 27 plus. There are about 2% of women who are virgins when they marry, but the average age of a virgin bride is 19. The divorce rate for women who marry at 21 and under is astronomical compared to the rate for women who marry at 27 and older.

Therefore, if you wish to be true to a virgin, then marry her when she is 13, and make sure you are dead before you turn 35.

[kap_nss]

Fake statistics to make a point which has nothing to do with this take. You fail to explain why a guy can't choose to date a virgin.

[WalterRadio]

If you don't like my numbers, go look up your own. The roughly 2% and 19 came from a study of human sexuality of a few years ago. It was a comprehensive study conducted by professors and grad students and published. It was several hundred pages, and well documented. I didn't say one couldn't prefer a virgin. I am saying that it is irrational to keep one characteristic of a bygone era, while throwing out the associated characteristics of that era.

[kap_nss]

It could be hard, that's true. But winning lottery is even harder and I see millions of people trying every day :D

[WalterRadio]

What could be hard? Finding virgins? Try most any 13 year old girl, ghetto blacks & redneck whites with their cousins notwithstanding. Just be prepared to die young. Perhaps from their fathers or the guys on death row you meet in prison. I have run across some (18+). They were no longer virgins by our 2nd date and were all glad to get it over with. Interestingly, every single one of them is Asian.

[WalterRadio]

Also, the lottery is a tax for being bad at math.

[WalterRadio]

And now that I think about it, over half of the virgin's I had sex with are Moslems. They really, like really hated the restrictions of their upbringing.

[kap_nss]

You make really weird recommendations, dude. Which kind of twisted mind will tell others to look for under aged girls. Please stop doing such unappropriated comments.

[WalterRadio]

You said it would be hard. I told you how. I also suggested it would not be wise, as it may lead to an early death. The real point is, give up the notion of virginity being important. It was important culturally when girls married at 13 (and therefore usually had sex with their husbands at 13). Give both of those ideas up like most everyone else in the developed world.

[dudeman]

marriage was also established thousands of years ago. time to let go of that one too right?

[WalterRadio]

@dudeman As a legal entity, sure, it should not exist. People should be free to make whatever personal contract they want between them without the government forcing the terms.

[dudeman]

yes and people are free to marry a virgin if they so choose.

[WalterRadio]

@dudeman Sure, I hear there are plenty of them in Saudi Arabia. Kind of hard to meet them unless you go there, because they are not allowed out of the country without being accompanied by a male relative.

[dudeman]

no there are plenty of them in america. maybe not in the age range you can get but i still date 18 year olds.

[WalterRadio]

@dudeman The only age range I "can get" is over 18. My primary girlfriend is 20, by the way, a former teenage model (I didn't know her then) and a nursing student. I have had several virgins. The last was 22 years old, an Asian American. We solved her problem on our first date, and she was glad to be rid of it. Virginity is something to get over, not to desire.

[Dulcedulcexoxo]

I gotta say , the fact that your fetishsizing it will turn virgins off and have them running. they want you to like them not the fact they are virgins. Just like a non virgin wants you to like them not the fact that they will put out. And how can you wakeup one day after 3 years of banging her and be like yep you know what i can't handle your past i think i want a virgin. Im sorry, but virgins have high standards and i dont think you will meet them.

[kap_nss]

Blah, blah, offenses but not arguments.

[dudeman]

women seriously can't read. just because he wants a virgin doesn't mean that he only likes her for that.

[Dulcedulcexoxo]

@dudeman Lol, nice generalizing But he is illogical, and completely delusional if he thinks a virgin would want him. fyi women also care about your sexual past as and of she is a virgin than she will have standards

[dudeman]

well the thing is there will be a virgin girl out there that won't care. he just has to find her. this doesn't make him delusional at all.

[lolatyou]

I can see where you're coming from. I don't want a guy who has a lot of sexual experience and I think I have that right because I hold myself to the same standard as well. There's no way in the world I would get involved in a serious relationship with a man who has had sex with anything that has a hole.

Everyone has different preferences. Some people like people who are experienced and they have that right just as much as you have yours.

At least you tried getting over it but now that you're honest and you can't anymore, it's better that you know what you're looking for so you don't waste anyone else's or your time anymore.

The only issue I have is when men specifically think women should be a virgin and they themselves have had multiple partners in that case you're a hypocrite.

[kap_nss]

I'm glad you perfectly understood this and you made an civilized comment. If I could change the past I would have lost my virginity at 16 like she did. And then we would be more even. The problem is with me, no with her virginity. But just a few of those who commented here took the time to read what this was about. Thank you!

[Echelon333]

"... with a man who has had sex with anything that has a hole" But... what if he has a flashlight or one of those artificial with real looking vagina inside and out dolls? Is it still a problem lmao Or then he goes into pervert category? I'm not one of those, just curious for the answer lol :D

[lolatyou]

lol ok I mean an actual human being with a hole. He can have an orgy with fleshlights if he wants haha

[Echelon333]

Ah ok then *pheew* I thought you were kinda crazy for a second and you minded that too.. lmao

[sweettckae]

This article is bullshit...

Your opinion is limited only to yourself.. not others.
Leave others out of it, your girlfriend was a douche just like you.
And you can't judge others because of some chick you dated.

Sorry... you're incorrect.

[kap_nss]

I guess you never turned down a guy who asked you out, right?

[sweettckae]

Yeah I did, what does that have to do with your article?

[kap_nss]

That fact that you don't understand that is a sign I shouldn't have taken you opinion too seriously. :)

[TwentySomething]

Guys always say "it doesn't matter how many guys a girl has been with" when they're trying to get laid. We all judge women on how many people they've been with. The chickens come home to roost when guys are looking for a serious partner. Yes, we take into account how slutty girls are. Welcome to real life.

[WhatAreYouReading]

@TwentySomething You can't say all. I have a lot of guy friends and not one of them cared about the girls numbers when it came time to settling down. The ones who are married found someone who was where they were and wanted the things they did, they fell in love with the person, not how they became that way but as adults you except that sometimes people take different roads and without those roads they may not have become the person that you are now in love with. I mean it's not for everyone and you are free to judge on whatever you want but you definitely can not apply all to it. Hell my 2 close mom group friends... they've both been married about 1 years and neither one of their Husbands ever even asked about numbers cause it never even mattered. Different strokes for different folks.

[abundantlyrich]

Sounds like you have control and jealousy issues

[oddwaffle]

Hmm... May try the anime girls? They are virgins, I am sure of it.

Or go for the younger ones, but you go to prison that way.

While it is possible to win a big lottery, it is not recommended to spend all your food money in buying the tickets. Your chance of dying due to starvation is much higher than your chance of winning a prize.

While it is possible to to find a virgin girl as you get older over the years. Your chance of living the rest of your life alone is much higher than your chance of getting married.

[Joc4Position]

You're right. You don't have to accept anything. If something is a deal breaker for you then it's a deal breaker. You don't HAVE to do shit.

That said of course it's also logical for people to disagree with you and express that. They have every right to do that too. I don't understand the whole "virgin girls only" thing, and think it's ridiculous but that's just my opinion. You do what you want to do, and I'll do what I want to do.

[kap_nss]

I know it's ok if others disagree with me. But I wrote this just to tell that I find it wrong when people say "You HAVE to accept...". Specially because I've read that so many times.

[Joc4Position]

Well that's why I said the first part.

[Bandit74]

Go for whatever you think will make you happy. Girls will turn guys based on the number of dollars in their bank account or the number of inches they stand of the ground so I think its fine if you use number of sexual partners as a filter for who you want to date.

Only problem would be if you make a point to insult girls who dont meet your criteria by calling them sluts or if you lie by telling a girl you're a virgin when you're really not. So if your honest about your past and respectful when turning down girls who dont fit your criteria then I dont think there's anything wrong with your preference. Well other than the fact they are rare and you are significantly limiting your dating pool, but its your right to be as picky as you want.

Last thing is youd be better off if you dont specifically tell them you're looking for a virgin.

[kap_nss]

Insulting a girl when turning her down? That mindless. I know I can't start the first date by asking whether she's a virgin. But I can manage to know that soon enough I guess. People go on some dates and then they quit. That's normal, isn't it?

[idkwtftoputhere]

If you wanna date only virgin girls then you do you lol but it's gonna be hard to differentiate between who's a virgin and who's not, people lie about their notch count all the time. lmao

[kap_nss]

Yeah, sure. Maybe your boyfriend is lying about having a STD. Who knows. If she lies and holds that lie for ever, I'm OK with that.

[idkwtftoputhere]

1. Don't have a boyfriend 2. Condoms are your friend Also, if you're okay with her lying about being a virgin then wouldn't that completely defeat the purpose of finding a virgin girl?

[kap_nss]

"wouldn't that completely defeat the purpose of finding a virgin girl?" I think you're confusing the message from this text with my own story. If you read my first question I made here at GAG you'll probably understand my take and my story better.

[idkwtftoputhere]

uh ok

[aliceinwonderland69]

You are biological programmed to avoid promiscuous women due to fear of being duped into raising another man's offspring. You are right you cannot choose what you are attracted to. You have the right to be with or not be with whoever you want. Don't give in to the feminist shame you will most likely have heaped on you.

[limousin]

Simple really.
Accept it totally and honestly, or move on.
If you don't, the road is steep and slippery.

[cth96190]

kap_nss you have probably done your former girlfriend a huge favour.
You have a twisted view of morality and little understanding of life.
Are you Western, or from a Third World culture such as Islam?

[jacquesvol]

No virgins allowed?
May we suppose you're a virgin yourself thus?

[dudeman]

yes it is your right to seek whatever type of relationship you want. i just dont even listen to women about this subject they just want to keep men used to the status que.

[SakuraCherryBlossoms]

You sound like you were really envious of her.

[SakuraCherryBlossoms]

But from what you wrote it sounds like your ex, was your first girlfriend. So it's actually really natural you'd feel jealous.

[bloodmountain1990]

Why limit yourself like that?

Besides, you said you have a past too. What if a girl held your past against you?

Only thing that would matter to me is if the girl has an STD or kid, when considering sexual partners or relationships.

[ShaeNielson]

If I were a virgin I'd never date a terrible person like you who values a girl for nothing more than her genitals.

[kap_nss]

Am I a terrible person? I assume you dated every single guy who asked you out or was in any other way interested on you. Otherwise you are a terrible person too. Lol.

[ShaeNielson]

Yea, cause that is the same as dumping a girl because you find her inferior due to the state of her vagina.

[COMMODOREII]

You do not get it do you guy. You are treating women, girls, the female sex of ourselves, as property, as objects, as "Things". That is why they are offended by your statements. I agree with you that you can go afte whoever you want, but do not expect to be counted as obsolutely right for why you are doing it by the People. You will always be brought down, not just by Women, by Men as well.

[QuestionMan]

Why does it matter if a girl is a virgin or not?
If she's been with other guys it means she's experienced and you could have a lot more fun. With a virgin you have to worry about her becoming really clingy and not hurting her since it's her first time. She would also be a lot more insecure than an experienced girl.

[Joc4Position]

That's not true. Experience doesn't mean better, and being a virgin doesn't mean you'll be clingy. Also, just because she's a virgin doesn't mean you'd hurt her but with any female you should make sure you aren't hurting them... unless they are into that kind of thing.

[kap_nss]

I totally agree with Joc4Position in what he told you. It matters because you decide what matters about your girlfriend. Is it ok to choose a girl based on her hair color but not her sexual life?

[QuestionMan]

Are you really that insecure about your own performance?

[kap_nss]

You didn't reply my question.

[QuestionMan]

It's ridiculous and archaic that's what it is. Now answer mine

[kap_nss]

You don't answer because doing so you would have to accept that you are cool with way more superfluos criteria for choosing a girl. Of course your position doesn't make sense. An otherwise perfect girl is turned down because her looks, and you are ok with it. An otherwise perfect girl is turned down because her sexual past, and that's archaic. :)

[QuestionMan]

Obviously both looks and personality matter I don't get what you're rambling on about. The whole idea of "she needs to be a virgin" shows that you have some sort of insecurity since you're comparing yourself to her past partners.

[kap_nss]

The point is a guy has the right to choose his girlfriend following whatever criteria he thinks fit, without being insulted in the process.

[QuestionMan]

That doesn't answer my question. What is the reasoning behind this decision? If you have a belief then you must be able to back it up.

[kap_nss]

You didn't make a question, lol.

[QuestionMan]

My question was: Why does it matter if a girl is a virgin or not? It was literally the first line I wrote. You are dodging the question.

[kap_nss]

hahaha you wrote that one day ago! It matters because of what I explained in my very first question I did here at GAG. I referred to that question in this take. And if you read it you'll find out why does it matters to me.

[QuestionMan]

Can you provide a link to this question?

[kap_nss]

Let's see... www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1886854-how-to-forget-all-the-things-she-said

[QuestionMan]

So you met a girl that had a bit of a wild side and you couldn't match her expectations since she's been with guys that were significantly better then you. The problem wasn't just your insecurity and experience gap but a lack of sexual compatibility. She had different tastes then you so it would have never worked out. Now the problem lies with you using this negative experience as a tool to judge all your future sexual relationships. You didn't like that she was vocal about her past experiences so you decided to look for the opposite extreme. One that wouldn't have any to brag about. You didn't like that she was setting high expectations for you, so you decided that by being someone's first you would be the best they ever had since they'd have nothing to compare it to. That way you would set the boundaries of what was acceptable in the bedroom and since the girl wouldn't know any better she'd play along.

[singlebee]

The ell this is why you should follow the "don't ask and don't tell" policy..
What's post if post it can not be changed... And you should keep it in the past..

But you do have a right to have a partner who is near your number of sex partners...
Or if you are a virgin then date a virgin

Or just get over get past or just don't ask and don't tell..

Do whatever your want...

[Kylesar]

Good luck finding a virgin

Seriously. Good luck finding one

[mishsheaven]

no one has the right to tell you you are wrong to want to date only virgins. And only sluts judge guys who prefer virgins. And I think you are smart enough no to care about sluts' judging

[mishsheaven]

@imanf7 Did you not know that sluts are shit to me and their opinions are shit as well?

[takumii]

So , you are okay with the whole sex after marriage thing?
If not then you are hypocrite. in the sense you want a virgin but wouldn't want then to be a virgin just because they are in relationship with you. That would be pretty selfish.

[kap_nss]

No, I'm not. Actually the opposite. I realize having waited like I did was a huge mistake. I know that is my fault. But I couldn't change that.

[tynamite]

Good luck finding virgins when you get older!

[jessyrose101]

Im a virgin and if i dated a guy that had a huge list of exs i could see where u r coming from but if he had a short one it wouldn't bother me.

[Queen66]

you knew from the start that she was not a virgin, but you went with her anyways, the thing of the matter is that, you thought that you could look past the fact that she was not a virgin, because you liked her right, but the thing with some guys is that when it comes to having sex with their girl they would like to be their first, which in most cases you would not be, so its on you... in any case you have the right to break up with her but you should not have kind of wasted her time if you kind of knew that you have those feeling.

[kap_nss]

At first I didn't knew if she was or not a virgin. Before we had sex for the first time I knew she wasn't. But at that time I couldn't know what was going to happen to me a year and a half later. :/

[Queen66]

oh ok... in other words, for next time do you want your girl to be a virgin or not

[kap_nss]

I think I explained that at the end of my take.

[COMMODOREII]

Yes another Logical person in the midst. woohoo!! well played.

[COMMODOREII]

Actually many women can be virgins at a young age, and not have hymens that close the vagina up enough for you to know if she is a virgin. You can still have sex for the first time, and no blood, and no discomfort. You need to brush up on your human anatomy, if you think you will find a virgin who has to bleed, or feel discomfort the first time you penetrate her, or you will have many virgins being "USED" by you.

[FilthyPervert]

Your dick is too tiny, we get it.