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When we refer to science, we see things in absolutes. It's either yes or no. It's objective and not subjective. Thus according to science, there are only male gamets or female gamets. Objectively, you are either a male or a female and in rare biological cases, a Hermaphrodite (two gamets in one body). But when it comes to identity. It's more of a subjective matter.
Let me give you are small example. Suppose you were born in, say Canada, but you feel more at home with Mexican culture. Many people will find it strange, nonsense and offensive. But that won't change that fact that you feel more at home with Mexican culture despite being born as a Canadian. You can even opt for a Mexican citizenship if you had the means but till then you can wear Mexican clothes and accessories or whatever is available.
Similarly when a person is assigned to, say male, they might feel more alive being a female. They cannot change the fact that they are were born as male. But they also cannot change the fact they love being female instead and feel more like themselves. Some opt for surgery while others just choose to opt for feminine fashion and whatever is available. And it's okay. It's okay to choose something that others normally don't choose. It's okay to be different. It's okay to feel like yourself by not confining yourself.
(Please don't bring religion into this discussion. Also I am choosing to be Anonymous but I don't want to be attacked for presenting my opinion.)
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6 45I understand people's "feelings" might be hurt, but science does not care about people's feelings or opinions. I only care about science and facts. Some people "feel" the Earth is flat and some people "feel" that Pluto is a planet, but science says differently. It also doesn't matter if the majority of people agree on something, because science is not a democracy. 500 years ago the majority of people agreed the Earth was the center of the universe, but science was very clear that it is not.
Science is very clear that homo-sapiens are a binary gender species. Are there non-binary gender species? Yes, but humans are not one of them. Our closest relatives, chimps, do not have trans-genders. Archeological evidence has yet to find a single trans-fossil of homo-sapiens or trans-fossil of our ancestors. In fact current science seems pretty darn sure that you can determine the gender of a human just by looking at the skull. These are not guesses, but facts based on evidence. I'm not transphobe and I don't think the right of trans genders should be taken away, but I'm a scientist first.
I also think that there is much to be discovered by science till it's discovered, but till then we have the evidence that are already presented. But some people just want to live their lives instead of being experimented with. The interviews we see in SM are really twisted and is taken in a twisted way. I have also heard that science is finding more differences in this whole gender thing every day. Like recently they discovered the there's some XYY chromosome.
You know that XYY chromosomes (Jacobs syndrome) is a genetic disorder? It's like a Down Syndrome - an illness.
@john_doesnt There are no non-binary sex-species on this planet. This is what we have on planet earth including the exinstc species: A-sexual, like bacteria, they have no sex at all Both sexes at the same time, like snails (having both gamits simultaneously) Can change sex in certain conditions, like the clownfish Are fixed as male or females, like humans Since binary means two, and sex are members of sexual reproduction group, then non-binary sex-species imply, sexual reproduction with more than two members (male and females), and that is simply not the case.
@smølf non-binary could mean one gender which is what many species have.
@john_doesnt there are no species with more or less then two sexes, if it had sexsual reproduction.
@smølf asexual reproduction would be a non-binary species, because there is only one gender. Binary simply means two.
Although the science of how someone can feel they belong to another gender isn’t what you believe. I understand that your feelings may be hurt though not everyone conforms to the binary standards that society has forced to believe. You believe there are no transgender chimps but you didn’t talk to them. You didn’t interview one to know. What makes a chimp of a male or female gender? You don’t understand the social constructs of gender on a chimp level to know for yourself.
At the root of it all gender is just a social, psychological, human made construct.
@john_doesnt Asexual reproduction does not make a species non-binary. The term "binary" refers to the traditional male-female sex binary found in all sexually reproducing species. Asexual reproduction involves a single parent and will therefore be mono (singular) not binary (dual).
@smølf Guys, let's keep this discussion peaceful. Look, suppose I grew up hearing that girls are supposed to be this this this and boys are supposed to be this this this. People start calling me boy instead. I do the math and find out I am supposed to be a boy instead and if I have the means do surgery. Whenever someone calls me girl, I feel offended because I associate girl with whatever I learnt. This is how it goes in most cases.
You have to make the distinction between sex, and gender norms. Sex is biological and factual. Gender norms are social constructs. You can be a woman, and still conform to the social norms of beaing a male.
@smølf this really is Gay Over for you www.youtube.com/watch
@smølf that's what I have been trying to tell. Gender and Sex are different. It used to be used synonymously because everyone else were closeted. It wasn't until 2017 or something till the laws were changed.
Gender and Sex are different in English, and have been for a decade or so because the words have changed based on political ideology. As I have shown in a different trade, the dictionary definition is still one-to-one with biological sex. In other languages and cultures, it's also still the same. In some parts of the English-speaking world, the dictionary defintion still stands, including in about half of the US of A.
https://youtu.be/M0uCLgFMC-c
Let's listen to the biologist then.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes, this biologist says there is 2 sexes: www.youtube.com/watch
Finally, something true. Now, what sex does a non-binary species have? And can you give an example of a non-binary sexually reproducing species?
@smølf there is no non-binary sex and the people who identify as one can sometimes reproduce which proves that they are not non-binary.
True as I have pointed out earlier, there is no non-binary sex. Hence no non-binary reproduction, in any higher lifeforms, since they all have sexual reproduction. Even hermaphroditic organisms like snails, with both sexes are binary (meaning two sexes, male and female).
Yes, because sex and gender are two different things.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Say who? The change in gender definition to reflect how individuals identify themselves is a recent development. If you look at any dictionary that is more than 20 years old, you will see that it is a contemporary politically motivated redefinition.
@smølf let's say they always meant the same thing. Even if they did... so what? As humans evolve and learn new things out definitions will evolve too and keep up with that increase knowledge.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I do not subscribe to the political ideology trying to redefine the word. Nevertheless, sex is binary, and we are talking about sex, not gender, since gender, by your definition, is not related to procreation.
@smølf I never said that the definition had changed. I said "even if it did". And it's far from my definition. Also what political ideology is this trying to push?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Identity politics. They make claims that are not in line with biological reality.
@smølf and do they say that is not in line with what biologists say?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 They make such claims as sex is a spectrum, sex can be changed, and sex is how you identify, not to mention sex is a social construct. None of it is true, the scientific evidence is clear. They may redefine it by saying gender instead of sex, but it doesn't become true by switching words.
@smølf I heard people say all of that about gender. Not sex.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 what's some are defining as gender, is really sex identity. That's not a spectrum, sex expressions however is.
@smølf what is your definition of gender?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 gender is invented by the ultra left for the ultra gay ways. There are 2 sexes according to biology.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 My definition is the same as it was before 2000. Gender meant sex. Gender was used in writing and conversation in preference to the word sex, because sex also meant sexual intercourse. So to prevent confusion and so as not to evoke the thought of sex, the word gender was used. In your passport, it says gender as sex, and it doesn't refer to your identity but to your biological sex. but to your biological sex. The leftistic redefinition of the word is not internationally used or recognized outside left-wing ideological mindsets in the Anglo world. Internationally and in dictionaries, it still says "sex."
@john_doesnt did you noticed that you used both gender and sex in that comment? Are they the same thing? Not according to the dictionary they are not. And what is an ultra gay?
@smølf So you know that is not the definition anymore. It's a social construct. The rules defined by society of what constitutes stereotypical male and female behavior. Yes, it is used as meaning sex in many occasions occasions. Taxonomy. For example. But just like "race" can mean both ethnicity and species depending on the context so can gender. It's not unique to this word that we do this. Words changing meaning or having an added meaning is nothing new. But as a comment above said, on his own words, this is seen as a "left wing" propaganda. Their issue os specifically with this word, even if never had that issue with any other before. Proven that the issue is not that the meaning changed. The issue people have with it, is simply because it represents a moving forward that box lime mentality that progressives like. That is the real issue. It not having the same definition worldwide is the appeal to popularity fallacy. It's irrelevant to something being accurate or not the amount of people that accept it.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 gender is defined as whatever the ultra liberal democrats want it to be. Sex is either male or female. You libtards can define gender as whatever you want, but I'll stick to the science about the FACT there are 2 sexes.
There we go with the "ultra" that means nothing. And again, no one is saying anything regarding sex. We are talking about gender. Can you understand that?
@John_Doesnt real mature, buddy. Using “libtards” really does show your character.
@snowboarder720 sounds like something an ultra liberal would say
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I know you and others try to redefine the word politically, but I use the English language as defined in the dictionaries in the UK. Passports are internationally recognised and use gender as sex, hence this is the international definition, and I'll use this. Whatever native English speakers choose to use politically is their concern. Internationally recognised English defines gender as sex.
@smølf why are passports a more reliable source to seek the definition of a word than the dictionary?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 because passports are legal documents, not ideologically defined fake definitions. Besides dictionary pre 2000 are also ok, only contemporary screwed dictionaries show it as sex identity. 20 yest ago, sex identity was call, sex identity not gender.
@smølf who cares about dictionaries or passports. Look at what biologists say: "There are only 2 sexes". The word "gender" has been hijacked by the woke movement to mean whatever they "feel" it means. But the definition of sex is very straightforward in biology and there are only 2 sexes.
Yes, who cares about the actual definitions of things. Science is self correcting. Good thing because otherwise we would still be drilling people's skull to cure dementia. As we found out new things, gain new knowledge we update what we know. Sociology is a science. Consider it an upgrade that came from greater understanding and discovery.
@john_doesnt 2 sexes and 2 genders, that is correct. Gender is a 1 to 1 relation to sex. @this_is_my_opinion8 Sociology is not work politics, just like eugenics was not biology but politics. Please learns to make the distinction.
@smølf I didn't said that sociology was biology. I said it was a field of science. Science more than anything is a process, a method. You apply it to different topics you have different scientific fields. In this case we are applying the scientific method to the study of society. Politics is not science. I agree.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
I have a great idea, let it fucking go. This question is over 3 months old.
@snowboarder720 sounds like something a defeated person would say.
You’re gonna have to jump higher when you swing 😆
@snowboarder720 What do you care? Isn't this site for conversation?
We are all individuals and can’t be put into tidy boxes to predict our behavior. So with gender I often see people say that guys all do this and girls all do that. But isn’t it better to get to know someone on a personal level and not force them into their “group”?
It sound like the Canadian is guilty of cultural appropriation. And a male trying to act and dress like a female is gender appropriation I would guess.
I think trans are simply depressed or have other mental issues. Meanwhile, they force everyone to participate in their fantasy and scream bloody murder if they don’t.
It's not about the Canadian being guilty. It's about them feeling more at home with Mexican culture.
I said that tongue in cheek as the world is crazy right now. Hopefully Darwinism will cleanse the world of the nut jobs as they don’t procreate as much. You can be a cross dresser. You can even have surgery and live as a woman and society will accept it. But hopefully you can pass for a woman. What’s wrong is to claim that you are a woman with all of the experiences that go with it. Being raised a girl, having the experiences of a girl at a young age, having periods, thoughts of dating and marriage as a young girl/woman, the fear of a dark parking lot at night… JK was right. But what’s really wrong is forcing everyone to say you are a woman when you are not, cancelling people who state the obvious, calling real women names like chest feeders or birthing parent… WTF! All because you need you fantasy fed. You aren’t a woman. Period. Even archeology isn’t safe from today’s temporary insanity of having to cow tail to these delusions. The crazies can now die off as they won’t be forced into social norms and we will be left with people who know what they are. There are enough people in the world for this die off to not hurt mankind. It could happen surprisingly fast, perhaps 3 generations. This is good.
I agree with you on the fact that shaming others is just not done!
wow is this what the world is coming to.. there are men and there are woman , boys girls penis vaginas and hormones.. some of us have more then others and some have less then they should have , be as it may.. not everything is cut and dried , but we all get to thing and say and do as we like.. Im a man I have a penis and i do cry and i do feel and i do care and i do wish that there was more love in the world then there is now.
Your example is wrong.
If you were born in Canada but "feel more at home with Mexican culture" then you feel more at home with what you BELIEVE Mexican culture is, and not what it really is.
I can say I feel more connected to American culture as I am more connected to living in big, super expensive skyscrappers in New York than small house in the countryside, because every big city in America looks like New York (except it doesn't and you only believe it does)
Also true. Similarly the people who want to have surgery finds that particular look as their ideal look. They won't know other bodily functions like pregnancy and periods (I am giving one example only). But again, the Canadian is satisfied and that's all that counts.
So it's not really how you feel? :)
This guy explains it better than me
https://youtu.be/M0uCLgFMC-c
If you are not a woman you cannot say "I want to feel a woman" because you don't know how it's like to feel like a woman. It's simple logic :)
See, when people say this, it's based on an idea. What is a woman according to society... she wears a particular type of cloth, behaves in a particular way, likes feminine things etc. What is a woman according to biology? Genes, gametes etc. So when we are talking about this, we mean sociologically and not biologically. People who refer to themselves as non-binary reportedly said that they don't fit society's description of what a woman should be and neither what a man should be. So it all boils down to sociology not biology.
"So when we are talking about this, we mean sociologically and not biologically. " Who do you mean by "we" because not me?
"What is a woman according to society... she wears a particular type of cloth, behaves in a particular way, likes feminine things etc. " So tomboys are not women, if we use that definition.
"People who refer to themselves as non-binary reportedly said that they don't fit society's description of what a woman should be and neither what a man should be" That doesn't make them a gender. If I say I am not masculine that does not mean I am not a man.
But aren't these the underlying factors of what influences people to change?
You can form an identity but you cannot change your genes and chromosomes
We didn’t deal w this shit when there wasn’t internet
Till around the mid 1950's sex and gender were basically synonymous. Since then, gender has been expanded to be a spectrum. Under this idea, a person can identify as anywhere from 100% male to 100% female, or any point in between, at any time, thus "gender fluid." Sex is still male and female, with a small number of intersex.
I have no problem with people doing their own thing. My only issue is when they try to force others to conform.
Agreed! Gender and sex were used synonymously because no one really showed up. The exceptions has to follow general rules too and the only time they got to express themselves was when they were home. For example it is a general observation that men are stronger than women but there are weaker men and stronger women, just less in number.
Gender identity is a made-up concept by a pedophile. It’s utter nonsense.
yup, doesn't meet the minimum standards of a science at all
gender is a pseudoscience. it does not exist at all
a real science can be observed and tested and falsified. but gender can't be observed at all, you just have to take people at their word meaning it requires faith... meaning it is a religion
How would anyone get offended when a Canadian does Mexican culture? If it’s got nothing to do with them or others, they ought to get no offence. Simple as that. One thing I can tell you is you got to be free. Grow your hair, dread it, wear a skirt with no fear of getting kilt, or whatever. Fashion is all subjective, so it matters not.
Yet some morons imply that it is based on sex. Yes that applies to majority of the people but not everyone.
Some people on here were telling me I have childish fantasies. This is way more childish. My 3 year old knows what a woman is.
I "identify" as being 67 years old but the government won't start my social security!!!
https://youtu.be/M0uCLgFMC-c
watch this, this guy explains it better than me.
the fact you post this forest video shows how poorly educated you are. he is an idiot who makes appeal to authority fallacies
@007kingifrit I;m smart enough to look down in the shower and be able to figure out my gender
that's your sex, not your gender. gender doesn't exist i was also talking to the girl
@007kingifrit You belong in a laboratory you know?
@007kingifrit a piece like you should be observed carefully under a microscope and experimented thoroughly. Or maybe in a pod full of fluid. That's where you belong.
@007kingifrit gender = sex
tough talk from an anonymous poster
It's not so much people wanting to present as their preferred gender that people are getting annoyed with. It's people presenting as their preferred gender and then wanting to take part and use spaces that are reserved for people born of that gender. A trans woman isn't a woman and a trans man isn't a man and focusing on making life more comfortable for someone who chose to change at the expense of people who were born their preferred gender is wrong
Perhaps there should be a third washroom.
Probably. I honestly don't know what the work around would be. I just feel changing the rules to make on group feel better at the expense of another doesn't seem right
Its simple:
facts over feelings
Biology over psychology
There are People who are born with both genders their genitals those should get the choice of what they are mostly other physichal features will help them decide.
But actually that is where we should draw the line.
When you identify as something, ya know, like republicucks do
this comment is so bafflingly stupid and childish it's hard to believe you're 33, what do republicans identify as? and how would that in any way inform this subject? furthermore how would identifying as something meet the minimum standards to be a scientific field given that science must be empirical
Gender is guided by sex. You can't change it just by saying you prefer to be known as different gender, just like saying 'I want to be Mexican' doesn't make someone Mexican. What makes them Mexican is the genes they were born with.
So they are not allowed to cross dress or something?
Of course it won't make them Mexican unless they take the citizenship
I recommend reading sociology and anthropology
A man in a dress is not a woman, anymore than a woman who wears trousers is a man. Gender transition doesn't mean anything.
But then people say they shouldn't cross dress either
they shouldn't cross dress. it damages the social norms of a society and makes genocide invitable we can't live in peace with those who don't share our social norms
The point you're making about gender identity has nothing to with cross-dressing because it won't matter what you wear, you are still the sex you're born as. But actually, I do agree with the other commenter. Cross-dressing is harmful as well. It's only practiced by degenerates in any case.
Gender identity means nothing. If you believe and read into this bulkshit. It will ruin your life and society as a whole.
I agree, Gender identity is important. Body hair is a male gender identity. I think it's wrong that the media tries to feminize men by promoting them to clean off their body hair by claiming it's gross and pushing policies in the media that every guy has to clean off his body hair if they are in front of the camera through contracts and hiring agencies. If a guy wants to be a man he shouldn't be forced to be something else.
Similarly women are to shave their body hair to look more feminine. If a guy wants to keep chest hair, so be it. If a woman doesn't want to shave, so be it. Gosh I felt so awkward wearing skirts because every other girl my class used to shave. In fact I keep my feet covered because I am too lazy to shave. Although in summers I really need to shave because it's extremely hot I feel much cooler. Still can't wear a skirt and even a tank top because people keep staring in a oh-she-is-shameless-and-trying-to-lure-men-in-with-that- stunt-way) while the men roam around in half pants and bare upper torso. I cannot even do it at home while the men in my house are roaming only in shorts. Gosh I love some dresses but cannot wear them for these particular reasons. By the time I reach somewhere I am literally liquid.
By the way, in school it was skirt. And even in school people used to stare at our legs and it was so uncomfy!
It's gender identity, it's important in society. Nothing wrong with being a girl and nothing wrong with being a guy. But, I do agree that certain women shouldn't walk around demanding every guy clean off his body hair Fraudulently claiming it's gross to erase male gender identity from society and promote ladyboys walking into the girls bathroom. They also sound like Pedophiles demanding prepubescent boy. Fortunately, most girls know she is a Fraud.
yes!
In many parts of the world people are concerned about whether or not they'll have a roof over their heads, or will even be alive because they have to dodge bombs and bullets every day, but in the pampered West people fret over their "gender", because they're so spoilt they don't have anything else to complain about and are so dense they don't even know anymore whether they're male or female!
Why does anyone even care about this crap? Get your priorities in order.
this dangerous religion is mutilating 10s of thousands of children a year furthermore it damages science by lowering the standard of what counts as science and i don't consider it ethical to care about people outside my borders so yea, it is the biggest issue right now
Funny that any scientist will tell you there are no absolutes.