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Are women dirty with all men or do they do things with some sexual partners they wouldn't with others - e.g. anyone who has good traits like being a long term friend or boyfriend material?
If a girl did particular sex acts in the past with others, enjoyed those things just fine, but with you she wants a different kind of relationship? Those past relationships were fun, sexual, kinky, non-serious, and she wanted to get that out of her system, but now with someone who is kinder, sweeter and a great confident good guy, why not you?
She gave her full sexuality to someone less good and is giving a mere portion of that to you?
UNDER THE GUISE OF COMPLIMENTING YOU?
How is acting more innocent versus more suggestive a compliment? It makes little sense that you would open up sexually to a guy who isn't a greater guy?
So you, a better, more loving partner that she cares about more and is more serious about experiences less of her sexuality?
WHY DO WOMEN COMPARTMENTALIZE GUYS?
It boggles us, yet seems to make perfect sense to some women. Every man is a different kind of relationship for a woman, and it seems natural to her to want one kind of relationship with one guy, and a completely different kind of relationship with you???
Why would she not want to be her dirty self with you and enjoy such sex acts as getting a facial, doing it doggy style, having her hair pulled, maybe being tied up and being called a "slut"?
Some might say those sex acts she enjoyed previously or experimented with wouldn’t be enjoyable with you, because she’s having an entirely different relationship experience with you.
We’re smart enough to know that this signifies a lack of respect. But women don’t get that. In a woman’s mind, having a completely different sex life with a brash guy from the past, versus her attractive gentleman is normal?
Isn't it just crazy?
Answer this, and the lightbulb will switch on in your mind:
If you really want a good charming guy, then why do you not give yourself sexually and stop acting innocent with really great guys?
1. Would a great guy be able to do dirty things with her on day 1?
2. Would her charming guy friend be able to hit on her when she become single (having met her when she had a bf)?
3. Would that guy be able to be kinky with her?
4. Would a brash guy be able to get away with more in bed - e.g. whilst giving him head, can he call her a "dirty slut" and it's fine, whereas the other guy can't?
5. How can you justify the paradox of "he doesn't show interest" when he's being good and he's being too sexual if he states he finds you attractive? Yet a brash guy who isn't long term friend or boyfriend material can do anything they want? Then at the end you expect a good guy who has been essentially punished to not want to experiment or have sex with others???
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS BOYFRIEND MATERIAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO boyfriend THEM
You meet countless people in life. But given all the mind games women play on decent men, essentially you have a situation where great sex is not had amongst great men and women. You seem to think "men will lose respect for you if you act less innocent". That's total BS. A good friend would still be your friend after you sleep together. The great guy you sleep with after a first date will feel relaxed that you are a sexual woman and not someone who plays games.
Why then do you open up so quickly to a brash guy who isn't kind, doesn't text sweet stuff and isn't someone who you could know for a long time?
You can have a far better sexual experience with a great guy friend than a brash friend or stranger
Often decent men are far far better in bed than some brash guy who has to peacock himself out of insecurity in a compensating manner
IS SEX REALLY THAT CHEAP TO YOU?
It seems perverse you'd think that brash guys would be better in bed when a connecting experience with someone who is hot and decent would be a truly sensual dirty experience.
*** [You may be referred to the 3 star if you post a silly comment!] On top of that, please don't give the alpha guy excuse. Often the true alphas are good men. Not someone who posts a picture of himself surrounded by many women and posts spiel about how you need to be "confident" and "have game". Oh what knowledge! As if everyone on earth doesn't already know that! Most of the people who post that are nothing more than jerks who have no success with women or many friends for that matter. Don't let them get to you guys or girls.
Is it true though that some women simply subconsciously get turned on by guys who don't give a damn about them in the bedroom? Cos a decent guy would go to town to make it about her and thereby increase both of their pleasure. Often brash guys simply go in to the bedroom in what is assisted jerking off, where the female is there purely for his pleasure.
So do women get turned on sucking off a (fake) alpha's D? Can the brash guy get away with saying more degrading things?
Why do a lot of women label people (especially guys) into categories?
Frankly, if you're a friend, anything is possible when the following criteria are met. You are single. I am single. That's it.
So.......
1. If I met you when you had a boyfriend. Then you're single. I would consider you dateable if you are attractive and a really nice girl. But what would you think of me if we met like that in a context where we keep in touch in a social circle?
2. If you met me when I was taken and then I become single, likewise, at that point, anything can happen.
3. If you are taken, I am taken or both of us are, then obviously then you're not an option. (No cheating)
4. I do not label people as "just friends" that can never be anything more.
5. I don't label people as "hook up material" or "girlfriend material".
Personally the best kinky sex and the best sex would be with a really great girl who is nice. So a "girlfriend material" girl to me, having sex within 1 minute doesn't make her any less of a nice girl. It makes her much more of one for being refreshing and not playing games!
I can't see why girls play games with great guys. Especially texting. Ever heard of the girl who text you how you are, you respond, and then silence?
Or your female friend "read" your message on a chat app and didn't reply or replied way later with some BS excuse of being busy (despite her last seen being later than when she read it)? But that's a whole another question!
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33 34Ever heard of the term "alpha fucks, beta bucks"?
You have clearly demonstrated not having read the take at all. I would ask you to either respond to my actual questions/points, or to read the *** section I specifically wrote above for morons if you can find it.
I did read it and I did answer your question. Women don't want to fuck the "nice guy" she wants to fuck the alpha bad boys ( usually during the years where she is at her prime) and then she reaches to her 30s will she'll decide to "settle down" and look for the "nice guy" who has a lot of money and then he'll marry her only for her to cheat on him with the pool boy, divorce him, and take all his belongings.
Omg, you really think you are clever don't you!! You realize those are isolated examples and those women are crazy in the first place. You seem like a fake alpha. A true alpha doesn't think being nice means not being alpha lol. You didn't answer the question, because you haven't mentioned a friend at all, which was my question. If you really know so much, READ the ACTUAL QUESTION which has nothing to do with alpha and betas and provide some USEFUL answer. Seriously preaching the alpha crap doesn't make you sound intelligent or make me think you know stuff and are more alpha than the rest of us LOLLLLL.
Your opinion was irrelevant and showed you didn't read the question or the points. It's offensive.
Pointless and rude
Because they're liberal sluts
Hi I had to contain my laughter before I could respond to your short, but hilarious opinion! Would a brash guy (social circle) get away with calling her a dirty slut in the bedroom and just being degrading versus a good social circle guy? What do you make of my question in the So section on a guy who met a girl in that circumstance? E. g. Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Sluts are just terrible people
Agreed but your thoughts on my question about the girl and friend?
Ok can u check out my new take www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Not true
@Wonderbread131 What do u think
If she wants dick that don't make her a slut even if she wants more then one at a time
@Wonderbread131 Who said she would be one?
See this pls and comment over there www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Hello?
what is your definition of a liberal slut?
@diegoD I didn't use the term, that was CountryMom
cheap thrills.
Why not have it with a great person you already know? See the So section and the top quote also
minimal risks.
Wtf? That makes no sense. What about: a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
many girls are spoiled in today's world and get off pushing the envelope-not trying to be mean, but we've all seen it. if a girl acts up, all, she has to do is cry and promise never to do it again. it's either that, or piss poor examples that mom brings home, or no father at all-the media also contributes to this by glorifying violent men, players, drugs, sex, and it feeds kids 's mind with rebellious tendencies.
Ok thanks for that, but what about my actual point/question I just posted to you?
i answered that towards the end. the violent, abusive, drug-addicted player are known as alpha. honest, caring guys who honest want to be with a girl cause he really likes her is usually never given a chance-he's a beta. the thing is it that they alphas are the beta... they can't take the pressure of the world... or they just wanna look cool. it's all reversed, but this is the kind of thinking the wold promotes.
That doesn't answer it at all. I agree on alphas being beta and fakes. But with regards to my question about the girl I met at uni?
What was the question?
Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
what exactly are you asking?
I just pasted it, how do you not understand that?
I'm not understanding what you're asking. Are you asking why she's moving back to his country?
No bro. It's pretty self explanatory, but I'm asking: 1. How to get with her if I can't date 2. How to arrange to meet her solo versus catching up in a group when she gets back 3. If she initiated an invitation to join her and other friends to catchup, what to do
Call her or video chat, work something a week or 2 in advance, work on getting to know her AND her friends. And if you're religious... no matter how attracted to her you are-put God first... trust me on that unless you're a heavy masochist.
Analyse this www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2161490-can-you-explain-this-girl-s-behaviour-sexually-in-life-see-refer-to
I don't think this is true
See tinder study and be enlighten.
@BubbleBoy69 what makes these guys "not long-term material?"
Pretty much men who have red flags. Players, pathological liars but smooth talkers, not financially secure, not willing to commit things that would set off red flags for someone with any common sense that this relationship is going to turn into a train wreck. They may have these traits but one thing women prioritize in top 5 of things they want is can he tingle my vagina and not make me bored.
@BubbleBoy69 I think you're talking about hot
Not hot. Men who tingle a woman's vagina. Read some of these mytakes even ugly ass guys but who knows how to excite a woman's brain can be the guy she gets down on her knees for and swallows his load for ONS. "
@BubbleBoy69 how do they excite their brain?
Ok pls respond to the 5 points in the "So" section
@BubbleBoy69 I don't understand? So someone who happens to be confident and charming, and has long term traits as well such as actually giving a damn about her life, sweet texts, makes her laugh etc, is actually punished with innocence?
Because whether females can sense it or not... the idea of a female having sex with a hot guy makes her wet! She instinicivly craves the good looking guy for sex! Its a primal emotion that's in every human... we can't fight it! So why deny it?
Its almost as if her primal side of her brain is taking control of her entire being and forcing her to crave the idea of wanting to fuck that hot guy.. its like us guys seeing a voluptuous female walking down the street
It don't matter if were already taken
Our primal instinct is telling us to conquor her
To put it in simple terms
Girls like hot guys because... well their hot and its mostly primal so therefore there only thinking of one thing
I think that's a bit too simplistic lol. How are you defining a hot guy? Just because a guy happens to be good to her, doesn't stop him from being hot. Wtf lol. Do you think brad pitts etc are bad to women or not good lol.
What this take is asking and trying to understand is if she is given the choice between two or three guys:
1. Good guy with great qualities in social circle
2. Brash guy in social circle
3. Brash outsider
Then she seems to act innocent and sweet around 1 and less innocent/posing like a model with the other two. And who would she have dirty kinky sex with?
All 3 guys are hot. And if anything sometimes the guy 1's are hotter than the other two. So it doesn't make sense.
If a guy saw two hot females who are single, nearly 100% of the time they would bang the nice one, not the bitchy attention seeker.
Please check my other take out: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
The gal will probably choose the one she's attracted too the most I guess? They make the final decision so it's on them
Ok, but of those 3 guys? And if you can check out the other take, mucho gracias
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2161490-can-you-explain-this-girl-s-behaviour-sexually-in-life-see-refer-to
It's nothing to do with hot guys. A hot guy who is a good person will then be punished.
Not all women are the same. For me the best sex is with someone I really care about and we have time then to explore our sexual desires and learn each other's sexuality and turn-ons. Sexual passion is hottest with someone you really care about where you can let yourself go. Long-term ftw
That's a great point and I agree personally I think sex with someone yo care about and who cares about you is way way way more exciting especially if you are dirty with them. I personally wouldn't even have sex with someone I don't like or know, and I'd be much much dirtier with the sweet girl I like who I'm friends with than someone attention seeking and rude.
What do you think about this situation, feel free to comment on that take: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Hello?
You see, Im almost 17. I have never dated anyone, ever. This is because I want to wait for the right person. I once wanted to date someone but now I realize he isn't a good person. I will date someone when I think they're right for me, and I'm not doing anything until marriage. I want someone who likes me for my soul.
That's a good way to do it
Could you please tell me how old you are?
Here's an article I just found on GAG that you may find useful:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30302-how-to-get-your-woman-off-without-touching-her
What do you make of the So section
What's the So section?
In the take. Point 1.
You mean this part? So you, a better, more loving partner that she cares about more and is more serious about experiences less of her sexuality? Basically you are saying that if you are nice and caring to a girl she should want to have sex with you?
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30544-a-milestone-in-my-life-the-day-a-girl-finally-said-yes
Check that one out too.
This is from the same person:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30381-an-honest-look-at-what-i-ve-learned-from-rejection
By the way, you forgot to tell me how old you are.
Oh no, not that point. Why does age matter? Let me just type it out for your ease of reading: "Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?" What do you think?
Do you have a problem with age? Why are you holding it back? Are you OCD about age? Or are you afraid I will use it against you in some way? Age is important in your case for 2 reasons: 1- I was GAGing a guy who was desperate to find a girl and get laid. I felt sorry for him. But a while into posting it turned out that he was only at the age of 14. Now wanting to have sex at that age is natural, but being hopeless and cynical about it at that age is either really funny, or there's a serious issue going on. I'm sure you get why, so I won't re-describe what I told him. In the end it turned out he was having a "whoever is having sex is cool" competition at school, rather than wanting sex for itself. So he wanted sex for the wrong reasons, and in the wrong context. I highly doubt any 14 year old girl would even want to have sex with someone. So he would probably have to make do with an older girl under 18, which again is very unlikely, or with an older than 18 girl, which would be illegal
2- Age is important to myself personally, as I would like the guy to be a safe distance older than me. I'm personally into older guys, and find them hot and exciting. I would consider a same age guy under very exceptional personality situations, but never ever anyone younger than me. As I was thinking maybe I would date you myself, I wanted to know your age. Now on GAG it's fine, I just explained my reasons. But in real life, if you had held back your age, I definitely would have drawn back considering you, unless I was desperate about you. Because it would have sent me a warning signal of some sort. Like, this guy either has OCD problems, or is trying to hide something, or is trying do business with me on personal info and he is a difficult bidder, or he is so untrusting that he can't reveal his age to someone who he has already decided is worthy of consulting about a personal matter, etc. etc. ...
... so I would cool off on my consideration. (or he is being childish). Now in dating there is usually a supply and demand market sort of element. And also an exposure element to it. It's just the unfair nature of life unfortunately, just like shopping or finding a job or even finding friends. So, unless I had a pretty good reason for being head over heels in love with you, like thinking you are my soul mate or the one and only for me or if I had a crush on you or I was crazy about something you had like something materialistic or psychologically necessary for me, you most probably just lost a chance. In real life maybe you would've gotten a chance to clarify yourself, but on an online place, you just missed. What I'm trying to say is that you made things more complicated rather than less complicated, and that won't work in your favor...
... I was trying to get to know about you, and you blocked my very first move. If I'm a bit of an insecure person, I'd probably not take that very well. So, you don't know what other negative vibes you may be giving off, or how insecure your person might be, or on which part of their insecurities your actions may fall. So just take it easy and take your time to try to get to know that person better, and also yourself. Because relationships between people are complicated, and chemistry plays an important role if you are not educated or experienced in matters of the heart.
Also, like I said, there's a market, and when the market is bad, there will be lots of rejection mostly for no good reason at all, other than it just wasn't your day. So there's probably nothing wrong for you to improve or not much more good you can do to someone, except to yourself, and that would be to keep on trying, and to enrich your skills and personality by learning which will also increase your odds of hooking up with someone, and to enjoy the chase.
Ok, so about your question WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN So, you are saying you had a good past together, now she is single and going to live in your location. Have you been in contact with her since she moved back? Has she rejected you yet? How do you know she is single? Maybe she is in a long distance relationship with her boyfriend or someone else. Maybe she doesn't know if she's there to stay. Maybe she is getting over someone. Maybe she is adjusting to her new location. By your post do you mean that you are looking for ways to get her attention sexually or do you mean that she has already accepted a "bad boy" over you?
Hahah no I didn't know what you meant. Ok so I'm 28, does that make a difference? I haven't had the good fortune to meet many great women growing up, at least people who were single. About 4 or 5 who I liked were taken. I'm perfectly up for sex before meeting "the one". It's just I want that first time to be special. This girl is really special to me, but again I met her at the wrong time. Unlike the others, we're still in touch as part of a uni social circle and she' single like I said. I've only met her single once alone (when she was visiting for a few hours). Now she is moving back to my country, though I'd still have to plan/commute to catch up. So my question is really about how to phrase the text about meeting her to ensure a 1 on 1 meet? Your other points, well we're the same age. Her previous boyfriend (she's only had 1 was also our age). Sometimes I've seen her posing like a model in group shots with younger guys and girls from her dance club, but no sex. CONT
With us, she's more innocent tho poses with hand around waist and vice versa whether it be group or solo (in which case she poses closer). She has lots of friends of course being such a nice person, but there is a certain deepness/closeness there by text and she has clearly stated admiring me in person. We had a lot of fun times and new experiences back at uni and after graduating (more so when her boyfriend wasn't there). I agree on chemistry, it's just given the circumstances we met, what do you think to do? Especially now she's moving back and setting the right precedent. I can't necessarily date anymore as my logistics have changed (now running a startup from outside the big city versus bachelor pad I had before). I think meeting her 1 on 1 is better right? But how do you phrase and ensure that to welcome her home? I'd love to lose my virginity to her given she's so so nice? She hasn't slept with anyone else, but I wouldn't be surprised if people hit on her? Should I compliment
her looks a lot now she is single? We're in texting contact right now. She's moving back shortly. Not sure what to do if I was invited my her to a group thing with other friends. How to deflect to a 1 on 1 meet? That's better right to flirt and have a closeness? I guess advice on this phrasing mainly and also I guess to know how if she is also innocent like me to make it more sexual or compliment her mouth etc (once she ate a banana in my presence and i could barely contain myself)? I thought I already said she has been single a year by the way. Thoughts?
Erm well did that help?
I'm 24 lol hmu
Anon do you have any thoughts?
It's good that she's texting you. At least there's a line of communication open. What do you two talk about when you're texting? Is there any sexting going on? I hope she ate the banana in your presence on purpose. It's ALWAYS great to compliment a girl on her looks. Or at least to let her know that she is physically appealing to you, however you choose to do it. Have you ever dropped sexual hints around her? If so, how did she respond? Has she shown any physical interest in you? You can usually tell by people's body language. If they lean towards you, or stay where they are when you move closer, or the opposite, do they move away. You're just going to ask her out, right? You don't need to say anything right now. Just say for example: I'm going to make dinner reservations at so and so restaurant. Do you think you can come there with me? Or, I'm going on a hike by myself to whatever place. Do you think you can come with me? Or there's a movie I want to go to...
... note the "do you think you can join me". Don't ask her if she "likes" to join you or don't ask if she "wants" to join you or "agrees". Use the word "can". Basically don't leave the emotional part of the decision to her but mostly pretend like her answer is already a yes on the "join" part and you are just asking her about her schedule or availability. You are asking good questions by the way, and paying attention to the answers and thinking about things and taking criticism in a positive way, sort of different from the haters. I think she will get the vibe that you are different. I think you are doing a good job, and that you really love her.
If she says that she can, don't ask her "when". Suggest a day and time. If she says no, suggest another one. If 3-4 suggestions don't work, don't tell her to let you know when is a good time. Instead say: if you are busy this week, I'll call you again next week to figure something out. Unless she tells you clearly that she will never have time or not to call her, it will mean the answer is a yes.
I sort of agree with your main title question. I don't know why it's like that. I guess those kinds of guys are just womanizers and know how to attract a woman in a way that she is able to ignore their terrible shortcomings and want to have sex with them. Maybe you should just look closely at what they do and how they do it and just learn from them. For one thing, I'm sure they have plenty of practice attracting people in general, not just women. It's all about manipulation. I'm sure their targets aren't really happy about falling for them either. But what can we do as humans? When someone knows our secret desires and uses them against us...
It's happened to me a bunch of times. Only I didn't give in to them and didn't have sex, because in my brain I knew they were jerks and my gut instinct told me not to. But in my heart I wanted to be close to them. Even though I wasn't even really sexually attracted to them. I guess that's the closest I've ever gotten to describing this sort of thing. But there were three basic components to all of my cases. 1- they had to be overall acceptable to me in terms of their social situation, looks, and success. I'm not saying great or amazing or perfect. Just acceptable, just have the bare minimum. You know, sort of be my type. Like I mentioned, younger in age just doesn't work for me. On the other hand, much older is ok. Although I wouldn't consider older than 12 years age difference for marriage, but I would still be attracted to them. Or like someone with tattoos is a definite no. And so on...
... which I guess in short it would mean someone I would be able to respect. A high school drop out with a drugs/drink problem would not. I'm of course much pickier than I'm admitting here, but hey I'm not an equal opportunity employer, and it's my personal relationship, so I sort of get the right to be picky. 2- the category of attention. If they discover some really small or subtle thing about, positive of course. Also in this category is looking. Look (don't forget to blink). Maintain eye contact. Keep it there until your best judgment tells you it's goinging to get creepy. 3- very simple is flirting and sexual hints. But they have to be very subtle. If her response is positive, then she likes you. If it's not, like if she frowns or draws back, this is not a good time to make more advances. Stop and wait. A couple of people did these to me. They felt irresistible to me. But of course the timing was off and nothing happened. Like...
... one of them made a dirty joke. The other one pointed out a picture of a little boy doing something literally dirty and funny. It just sort of breaks the barrier between you two. He would hold long steady eye contact whenever we talked. He used the word love around me in different contexts A LOT. He told me about certain kinds of clothes he liked, like socks..., and once he caught me looking at a pretty evening dress and he came up and said you would look nice in that. Tellin' ya, works everytime. Not to mention complimenting things like my smile, or noticing things about my eyes. But I'm sort of a private person, and I was hoping other people didn't notice that stuff. So I wished he did them when we were alone. But that never happened. Anyway, good luck.
Oh, don't forget displaying some vulnerabilities. Things or feelings you think might make you look weak. But don't overdo it. Just about 1 or 2 per month.
Hi, very glad to hear your thoughts finally! Ok so it's good she's texting me right? Yes we keep in touch - she chose to since we graduated. Text wise, it can get deep sometimes, a little playful in terms of fun, but it's not sexting. It's more her getting excited to hear from me, about me and sharing stuff about her life. Before we next meet up. She's been single about a year now and moving back here shortly. Haha I mean we were working along with someone else, I mean I loved the fact she was eating a banana, I didn't know what to say back then. As for now, how could I tell her she has a sexy mouth or be witness to such eating again? ;-) Right, I mean I have mainly just genuinely complimented her character. So how am I meant to drop sexual hints or compliment her looks when she gets back? I think once she asked me how she looked in a picture and I said she looked gooood. Our interactions are in person or texting?
Well I mean I haven't seen her for about a year. I'm asking how to ask her to catchup alone which I am hoping is fine now she's single? I met her once before alone (not knowing she was single) otherwise in the past it's been in groups. I am worried if she invites me or presumes I mean catching up amongst a group of other friends she hasn't seen either. How do u decline that politely and smoothly? So how do I make it clear to see her alone? I can't really date atm, my logistics are a little messy and I don't think it would be fair. But I'd love to meet up with her just us, and in the future sure maybe in a group. Seeing her makes me happy. What's best to do, dinner bowl, tea, what do you reckon? Phrasing in the text that makes it crystal clear I mean 1 on 1 so she loves it? So you don't ask her schedule, how do u mean?
As for the title of the take, so you agree? I mean I am pretty flirty and still a decent person. I just don't get why guys (or girls for that matter) who have any decent traits (long term material) get your really innocent side and hardly any signs you like them. And why anyone would then be really dirty with someone who didn't care about them, whose less attractive and not nice? Personally I'd much rather be with a lovely sweet girl like this friend, than some bitchy girl? I like your points about guys and girls interacting. In my case, given I know her, how do I suggest that I like her or mention that I've always liked her? I reckon our deep convos have shown I listen/care/praise her and that she admires me and we connect over vulnerabilities, likes dislikes etc. I just don't know how to be maybe sexual toward her or judge whether she likes me? Or whether she knows I like her? The banana thing, or her mouth, or her looking hot, how do you best say it? Thoughts on all?
Given I replied to your questions, I do hope you will provide some thoughts
I really think in response to your question topic, it's YOU who doesn't want to even START having sex with her. I think you have a problem with the idea of sex. "I am not ready to date atm" and "I just want to meet up with her". Seriously. What are you thinking? What's going on in your head? This could be a serious problem I'm telling you. I think you have severe OCD. I think you are a nice person, but I'm sure a therapist will diagnose you with that too. The answer to your question topic is: If YOU are not ready to have sex with her, she will sense that and will never have sex with you either. You can be the nicest guy on the planet, but she still won't have sex with you. Please see a therapist. You are not that young. Treating these kinds of problems take time. By the time you have solved your mental issue, she will probably be dating and/or marrying someone else, or the "bad guy".
It's either OCD, or you have low self-esteem, or you are terrified of rejection. As for rejection, you HAVE to face it. Learn from the bad guys. They get rejected ALL THE TIME but never give up. I've been rejecting this bad guy for about 2.5 years (I'm married, so I'll never have sex with him, AND HE KNOWS IT), but he just won't quit trying. He's been getting more and more creative lately, and he definitely WANTS to have sex with me at any price. That's how you get a girl. So, I don't want to see you writing back to me with more questions. Just ask her out, try your best to seduce her, and start having sex if she agrees.
Whaaat? How did you come to that conclusion? I was merely answering your questions which you said you wanted more information for to help me out lol. Of course I would love to have sex with her. What I mean is I value her and want to be friends still, I'm not trying to use her. I can't date because there is still a distance between us, making regular contact in person harder. Of course, I can still meet now and again by commuting. There's nothing wrong with that in my opinion, respecting a woman and not wanting to be unfair to her. I do want to have sex with her. I want to know how to convey that to HER? I don't have mental issues and find your lack of response (having asked for clarifications) then no apology for a late reply and then simply being a bit abusive rather crass. Please clarify and provide your thoughts based on this assurance that I am not mad and I shall overlook this lapse lol?
All you have to do is read my responses to you, which you don't appear to have lol. I look forward to any pertinent or useful thoughts. Otherwise I don't think I'm the one who needs therapy lol! In case you need me to point out again (given you did not read or chose to ignore and hope lambasting me would somehow make me think you know it all and it absolves you from the guilt of not reading) I am a virgin and asking for advice on spending that 1st time with HER. Thoughts about meeting her, securing a solo meet and HAVING SEX with her which I DO WANT?
don't tell her about the sexy mouth in bed. not now. right now just tell her "give me that million-dollar smile". Or compliment her eyes. just tell her she has beautiful eyes. I already said how to ask her out. please read all of my comments.
OMG seriously that's your supposed incredible advice that makes you some knowlegable person? "Ask her out" WOW YOU ARE SO SMART (note the sarcasm). And you seem to be saying despite the fact you're married, it's fine for a guy to want to and persist in trying to have sex with you. That's f***ed up. And you think me trying to ask out and have sex with a sweet friend who is now SINGLE and not having hit on her when she was not single is wrong? WTF? Lol you would make me laugh if I didn't pity you for your twisted sense of right and wrong. Abusing me instead of reading the question does not make anyone on here think you are smart. Why did you even bother to reply on my take if you aren't trying to help. So sickening. Please read my points. I repeat READ the actual points in my replies to you and I hope you have more useful and insightful advice than ask her out. I could have found that one out from my 10 year old self a while back lol. Thoughts?
just don't ask her schedule. I already described how to do that. read. buy two bananas and ask tell her: hey i just got some bananas, want to grab one together?
I will not be replying to your questions anymore. unless you just do what i told you and report the results
Pls explain the banana one, I didn't get that? The sexy mouth I meant in person sitting at lunch, can u say it? I don't think I saw you say how to ask THIS girl out over generic girls (they would not be the same way)?
Which part do you want me to explain? No, you can't say that sitting at lunch. I believe you don't understand the value of the things I told you. Those are very special ideas.
The banana thing doesn't make sense - explain it. You mentioned something about asking her about buying one? Are you reading what you're writing lol. Well that's the whole point on the sexy mouth thing. I asked how you can bring it up generally in a meet up? You clearly haven't read my other points from earlier and are not being that helpful. YET AGAIN, I ask: I am a virgin and asking for advice on spending that 1st time with HER. Thoughts about meeting her, securing a solo meet and HAVING SEX with her which I DO WANT?
I'm reading what I'm writing. YOU CAN NOT BRING UP THE SEXY MOUTH THING IN A CASUAL LUNCH CONVERSATION. Only if you finally sleep with her.
I mentioned something about something? Here I am being patient and giving you priceless advice...
Even if it's your first time, that is very exceptional advice. I've been on this website for quite some time now, and I know from the feedback I've received and my life experience, that my answers are very unique and valuable. Of course not to dumb ungrateful people like you who don't know a good thing when they see it. What a sad waste of my time.
What? I said you said tell her you have a banana to give? I asked you to explain that? Thanks for the clarification on the sexy lips. But I don't get why you didn't understand I was referring to lunch in the first place. IF YOU READ MY POINTS, you would never have brought up the bedroom as I asked about meeting her and saying it. As for the bedroom, HOW do you get to there. DO YOU NOT REALIZE how ABUSIVE you were to me earlier. For someone who is supposedly sure that her "answers are very unique and valuable", you don't seem very helpful LOL. Earlier you were saying I didn't want sex. As to how you came to this conclusion I have no idea. And if you really are "UNIQUE AND VALUABLE" with your answers, then ANSWER THIS which I have asked SO MANY TIMES.
"I am a virgin and asking for advice on spending that 1st time with HER. Thoughts about meeting her, securing a solo meet and HAVING SEX with her which I DO WANT?" Just because you say I am dumb does not make that true. You don't appear to be a very knowledgeable person else you surely would have answered the question instead of preaching generic advice which isn't "unique" or "valuable"! Your thoughts please would be sought if you can actually help!
To be clear, your opinion is pretty useless as it doesn't answer my question. It's just random ranting thoughts by yourself. And you expect me to be thankful for something useless. On top of that you simply hurled abuse as well. Crazy! Answer the actual points to me since you were pretty adamant on clarifying information earlier. And yet after it was provided, proceeded to ignore it LOL
I find this irritating that you asked for clarifications and then ignored the information?
One of the best Takes ever, I agree completely.
Cheers. Pls see point 1 in the So section, I'd like your opinion on it!
So section... well, point 1 is obviously intended as a question for girls... what can I say about it...
Ok try this? a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
I guess they could end up in a relationship, if she initiates it (I presume the guy is a bit shy).
Yeah but so is she!! That's the problem. Now she is single, can he somehow suggest catching up solo versus group when she returns from her stint abroad shortly? How does he phrase that to avoid being a jerk? He'd like to meet her separate from other mutual friends?
It's very difficult for two shy people to get together without help of their friends.
Well they are two fun people. Firstly how do you ask to meet her alone as I asked? "Now she is single, can he somehow suggest catching up solo versus group when she returns from her stint abroad shortly? How does he phrase that to avoid being a jerk? He'd like to meet her separate from other mutual friends?"
Check this out www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2161490-can-you-explain-this-girl-s-behaviour-sexually-in-life-see-refer-to
Personally, I prefer sweet guys who are not assholes. I don't get why some women like assholes, we do have our all opinions, but this has happened with some of my friends, they liked an asshole, tried to say he changed, he broke their heart.
I honestly just like guys who are funny, sweet, caring, etc and aren't assholes all the time.
Plus, obviously not all men are assholes, just find the right guy for you. Do not always pick the assholes.
That's good for you! Thank god there are girls like you still frankly. What I am wondering though is if you have a great guy in your social circle who is what you said - funny, sweet, caring, makes you laugh, is smooth and polite, what does he get? In the "So.." section above I highlighted what if this great guy met her at university when she had a boyfriend, and then is in her social circle. Later in life if she becomes single, what can happen?
Being alpha and a natural leader, a strong guy, is not being an asshole. Girls confuse this. A strong guy will have a strong frame, some will confuse this with being mean, even if it's not. OTOH, a mean guy is just an asshole. You have to be able to tell the difference. If he really is an asshole NEXT!!
@Browneye57 Yes I agree, an asshole is an asshole and a genuinely nice guy/women is a genuinely nice person. Happening to be nice like having manners and opening a door for someone does not rule you out from being alpha. In fact it makes you more alpha than the fake pretenders who barely speak in comprehensible sentences. A different guy posted a nonsensical opinion here saying that only alpha guys who are dicks and on steroids will get laid. Browneye57, what do you make of this please
@Browneye57 Let's say a woman has a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Anything?
@Browneye57 Can u check out my new take on 2 guys and a girl? www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Ok so explain thoughts
They don't. The women I know have much "dirtier" sex with long term partners. You're far more likely to start experimenting when you've been together long enough to feel comfortable.
That's a good point. So a woman wouldn't then: 1. have dirty sex with a stranger and let him call her a slut and cum on her 2. have dirty sex with the brash person in her social circle who isn't that caring Would she rather be dirty with 1. the charming new stranger 2. the confident and good friend who makes her laugh, sends sweet texts, flirts a little and is a great guy? What if she met the last guy when taken as described in the "So" section in the take?
If she's the type of girl who is into that, she'll be into it with either guy. It's really more about what she finds sexy than the guy.
Ok how about this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Sounds like they may like each other. Arranging to meet up is the first step.
Ok! That's great, based on what though? And as for meeting, if they are returning soon as I mentioned, how should he meet her and phrase the text to do so? Not to mention decline or deflect a potential invite to a meeting of various batch mates for her to catch up with?
Maybe say something like "I'd really love to hear all of your adventures one on one! Can I buy you lunch so we can catch up?"
Ooh I love that, that's really good! I mean I'd love that to do a one on one with her, can I really say that? I feel nervous to haha. As a female, if you heard that from a guy you know, you'd be positive to it? Secondly what if she invited me to a group catchup, how can you deflect it to the 1 on 1?
Either say, "Oh man, I can't make it that day, can I take you to dinner on (different day)" or goto the group thing, and then after say "I had a great time but would love to spend more time together. Can I take you to dinner?"
Ok that's a really great one! Finally someone who is actually answering the question. You're awesome!! I wish I could follow you. Right so it's fine to say you were busy and offer to take her to dinner instead? I mean I guess don't go or arrange a day where she is meeting others, that way then no one else can join? Or else should you do that if she's only in a closer city to me for a day. The issue is others living in that city. If I asked her to join me first, from what you suggested (Can I take you to dinner, treat you) is it clear to HER that I mean 1 on 1? :-) I really hope so. And how'd do ensure she doesn't misunderstand and say oh shall I see who else can join? I feel bad to say it, but I really just want to meet her who i really like, and have missed?
If you ask her to dinner and she suggests hanging with others just say something like "Oh, I'd really like some time to really get to catch up with you. Let's do dinner first and we can meet up with them after." If she insists on bringing others after you say that, it's clear she only wants friendship. In which case, you have your answer.
Yeah point on that. But sometimes with logistics, it might be different and she's just disorganized. What if for example last minute she asks if it's ok another girl joins? As for asking her to dinner in the manner you suggested: "I'd really love to hear all of your adventures one on one! Can I buy you lunch so we can catch up?" is it crystal clear to her it means 1 on 1? And is it ok to say the whole "I'd like to catch up with you" thing, is it still polite? Don't want to offend her, but make it clear I want to meet her! Oh and one more thing, if she initiated an invitation to me before I can ask her, and mentioned she's meeting others, can I join? How would you decline/defer to a solo meet? Should that be on the same day or another? Really appreciate this! Thoughts?
If another person ends up being along for some reason (any), go and be polite and warm. Then try to set up a second meeting or an actual date.
Great point! I get what you mean, but what I was asking was, say she agreed to the 1 on 1, and last minute, mentioned or asked if I mind if so and so joins us, how do you play that? If someone just suddenly was there when I saw her, I guess I would be nice sure! But if I booked just 2 lol? In terms of being clear you are there to see her versus seeing her amongst other friends (who you're not really there to see), how do you make it clear and essentially have a date in all but name between two close friends?
If she brings someone along or adds someone at the last minute, revert back to asking her on a real date on the second meet up.
Hi that's a good point, but I wonder whether that's possible as do you have the same excuse to meet up (to catch up) if you've just seen her? And does it set a precedent of meeting her in groups or you're back to square one? I mean I liked your first example tbh, it's just you and I both get we're asking a 1 on 1 thing. Do all women? What's the best way to phrase the meet request so she understands or secondly to decline a group thing if she invited? And if she accepted your invite and then brought up other people, how do you politely stop that in its tracks and make her understand and love it?
Any idea?
Well, here's the thing, really. If she wants to date you, asking to hang out again will make her happy. And if she doesn't want to hang out again after the first time, then you know she doesn't want to date you. There's really no way to get her to "accidentally" date you, haha.
Haha I guess that's true! It's just does it mean more if you were to see her alone the first time you saw her again versus in a group? Does that make sense? I'd like to have more alone time with her, just feel bad to say that. What do you suggest? I mean I do fancy her, can't really date atm, but am totally up for what is essentially a date (1 on 1)?
You're just gonna have to ask. It's your only option really.
Yeah good point. So overall what's the best phrasing from your female perspective?
You have cause and effect backwards for the most part
Then explain citing the take and the "So" section
There can be a certain amount of trying to be a good girl with a guy who they are serious about, going wild with a guy who is going to disappear. That is a real thing. But the bigger driver here is that women are surrounded by men. Some they really, really want to fuck. Some they wouldn't mind fucking under the right conditions. Some would be good providers. Some wouldn't. The guys who are at least 'would fuck under right conditions' and good provider etc, they'll date. The guys who they really really want to fuck, they'd have a fling with, and do dirty shit with. Now if the guy they really really wanted to fuck also had boyfriend qualities, would they do dirty shit with him? Well, a few might worry and hesitate, but for the most part yes. Women pretending to be vanilla in a relationship is a 'thing', but the bigger thing is, they only hook up with guys they find really attractive. If you have that attraction level INSIDE the relationship, she'll likely be as freaky.
That is a good point on men surrounding them. But how do you know if a sweet girl who had 1 boyfriend (may or may not have slept with him) is DTF? What about this situation pls? a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Well there are two reasons men tend to take the initiative. One is that... well we have to, at least till older, when competition slides more in our favor. But there is another reason. And that's that men find courage attractive. So it's an opportunity to show a woman that you are brave. So what should he do? He should go for it. They know each other well enough that really, they will either start a relationship pretty fast, or not. So he should ask her out, on a date, and be very clear that it is a date. And if she asks if he was always interested, he should say, without shame, that he always found her attractive and enjoyed her company, but she wasn't single, so that was that. But now she is, and so is he, and the opportunity is there, if she is interested too. I have more comments regarding sex and sexual flirting, but that's a starting point.
I really like that point, excellently put! :D Ok so you suggest going for it, which I like. It's just given the circumstances they met, how does he ease into it, now she is moving back here as well? Cos there are other friends in the capital and would she try and meet people together to see them again? So if she initiated that invitation, how/should he decline and deflect? Should the precedent be set now? They met solo once before (by luck, he didn't actually know she was single when he arranged it). I agree he has always been interested and found her attractive. So how does he convey that to her in person? On top of that, HOW does he phrase the text to get to meet her 1 on 1, preferably in a date in all but name. Maybe utiizing the fact that he wants to welcome her home? Do women like that if they find you always thought them pretty? Also he can't really date anyone atm given logistics (now he has to commute) and not sure she's up for dating either. Values her as well?
Please your advice?
It is because those girls have already done every or a lot of sexual things in the past with those guys (players, pretty boys, and bad boys) so they don't they don't feel the same sexual chemistry that they would for a "nice guy" plus most of them nice guys are probably just glad to do anything with a girl and most of all it is because they are probably ashamed of the "slutty" stuff that they did in the past.
Did you read the take? This is not about "nice guys", this is about GOOD GREAT GUYS. A great guy would be handsome, charming, funny (makes her laugh), flirty and smooth. He's not a dick and he's not brash. He actually sweet texts her etc and shows care for her. He might well have met her when she had a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni, and has kept in touch since graduating. Now she is single, what can he do? Cite the points from the take and provide your thought on point 1 in the So section.
Clearly didn't read what a stupid post.
Rude
Yea, all those kids born within a marriage or long term relationship just were magically conceived, because she certainly didn't sleep with him! Lots of jesus babies around.
The point isn't about that stage in life. It's about beforehand, to her great friends, she is angelic and innocent and to the less good friends, she'll be slutty. As in someone who makes her laugh, is attractive, confident and charming will be punished, and the friend who does NOT text her sweet things, acts like a dick, will get dirty sex. It's not looks, but seems to be about whether a guy is good material in general, means he gets no dirty sex. Read the take please, this is nothing to do with having kids.
Says more about the women you associate with really. Nobody with any sense of self love, any confidence or any self worth will ever like those types of guys who don't give a shit about them. Most normal girls like guys who treat them well.
And I said the thing about kids because I'll let you into a little secret... they're usually made by having sex, not by just being in a relationship.
Ok, that's fine, but what about women in the case of the "So..." section above?
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1It depends how dirty/kinky and on the girl
2It depends on what kind of freind she clasifies him as.
3If you mean will she let you tie her up it depends on how much she trusts you and if she is even into that kind of thing.
4No if she does not trust him then she would not let him get away with much. As for dirty talk if she feels submissive to him then yes.
5It is because of the freindzone and what she thinks of you as. If your her really good freind it kind of feels like her brother just
hit on her. He is a new guy she has no expectations of him. I actually epect him to not want to go after women let alone not pursue sex.
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Finally someone who actually responded to the points although I think you may have misunderstood one of them. I'll just focus on these points to discuss with you: 1. Ok, but how do you know that if she is a sweet girl? 2. Right let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country to work. How is he perceived and what can happen. 3. How should the guy act and convey attraction now?
1 you don't 2 He would be seen as he was before but now that she is single she might try to date him. Or she might want him to ask her out. 3 Yes but don't push it on her to much.
2. So how do you know whether she wants him to and how should he proceed given she is moving back here shortly? They've kept in touch, how does he avoid a group meet amongst other friends and welcome her back solo - phrase of text? What do u think?
I think that I'm still figuring out the first myself but for the second one the best way to make sure she does not bring her freinds along is to ask her out on a date.
I hear you man on the first. So is there a way for the second one to get a date without calling it that? Now she's single, surely it's fine to "hang out" alone now? I did it once before, but it wasn't really planned as such, just happened to work out that we met alone? How do ou ask?
Ask that as a question on GAG. I'm not sure how to without making it either sound like a date or that you creepily want just here there.
I agree, but tbh I doubt posting a question will help. Most people on here don't answer the question. You'll get guys telling you to be alpha. When asked for a suggestion they say "be confident" as if this is something that no one else thought of and they're really macho LOL. And girls will just keep repeating, ask her to meet up without saying the important how. I'd appreciate your thoughts on it if you do know. Otherwise, I'll have to wing it!
Also by the way as a side note, I noticed this a lot, many women just drop out of conversations in text randomly. Even after they initiated it? It's not even that I "lost their interest" since many of them are really excited in person or resume excitedly later. Indeed many are my social circle. It just seems bizarre that they get pissed off if you are genuinely late cos you were busy (you can tell cos then they tend to blank) yet have no trouble taking their time or just point blank not responding because there was "no question". E. g. she'll ask you how you are what have you been up to You respond and ask her something back No response lol A day later, she responds. Wtf? Why initiate if you're gonna play around like that?
Yeah I notice that a lot. I think it is because they don't take texting as serious as we do. If we text we want to talk. When they want to text it is usually to pass the time or to reach out and communicate a bit. It is part of their multitasking habits.
Sigh, it seems crazy. Even just now, some really great girl who I think is great did this. She texted me, I just got back from work and replied, tbh i probably ended it but she asked another question to continue the conversation and I still saw her typing before I even started to read it. Then she stopped typing. I responded and she's disappeared lol? It seems a bit hurtful tbh.
Well posting a question is better than beating a dead horse and just asking in the comments about it.
It does at times. Honestly to almost all women a texting conversation does not end. It just has pauses and changes topics. I usually text my female freinds and we could talk for an hour or a few minutes. I try and end the conversation by saying good night or bye. She will say bye and then a short or a long time latter just start up again.
I know, but I'd rather ask people who know. Sometimes questions are left unseen for days and close. And those who do answer, don't know what they're talking about and are pretty abusive at best. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Yeah good point on texting and women. But I get you can continue and flirt over time. But what I don't get is dropping out with no reason. And thinking it's fine for them to do it, but unacceptable for the guy to. I mean I've had women (including friends) who do that and come back all smiley. Yet on the off chance I did it, you can tell their mood has changed, and they either blank or are less enthusiastic. Although there seems to be a small period if you wait just a little where they crave you more lol. Agreed, I could text for ages with a great female friend. Including the one I was asking about. She's great. I just wish women would close it and then reopen rather than just ignore and leave you hanging. You wouldn't do it face to face
Oh the other one is when a woman drops out, and you can see her last seen or online time still updates and the next day she comes up with some bs thing replying later and saying she fell asleep or something. I can clearly see she was online lol. It just seems disrespectful and that they're crazy.
lol sometimes it does. Though if she fell asleep on a labtop until she put it to sleep it would still show her as online.- can we message instead it is really hard to keep scrolling down so much.
I meant on your phone though. If the girl's last seen changes etc. Yeah can do, I mean I just wish that this other girl knows I like her. A lot.
O I hear you on that man. I have the same problem but they won't know until we tell them. Hinting about something only works in movies and romance novels.
It's just if you do tell them, how do you do it without risking losing them? They don't seem to get they can grow on you. And in my circumstance I met her whilst working with her (couldn't avoid) and she had a boyfriend. So it's not like i could hit on her then. That's why I wanna be clear now that I do think she's hot/cute, but I also value/like her as a person?
Well the best way that I have found is eithe rone of two ways either tell her when you having fun talking and don't make it sound like a big deal. Or you get her alone and talk with her which is awkward. You actually should not lose them as a freind if they are a good freind. They will probably be nervous around you for a while if they don't feel the same way towards you. Also always tell them that if they want you two can just stay good freinds. That way they are not pressured to fell the same way towards you and you give them an out and an option to maybe start thinking of you that way also. Show her you value her as your freind and as a person when you talk with her. Sometime tell her that you enjoy being with her. That you value her she will enjoy hearing it.
Dude that's really solid advice!!! See I like that. Yeah so having fun and try to tell. It's just can you just blurt out so to speak that you think they're attractive and always thought that? I agree on being a good friend and staying that way. I mean can you meet solo after that haha if you reveal it? The trouble is not being able to date given logistics atm but I do like her. Of course, would be open to her taking my virginity and I love spending time with her, but I have to commute to visit her or vice versa. I mean I do like her a lot, just unsure how to tell her in words. I can even remember the day we met sigh!
yeah if you find the moment just tell her how you feel towards her.
Yeah it's just after she's laughing, can you just say it?
Sure
And hope for the best I guess right?
Ok check this out www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2161490-can-you-explain-this-girl-s-behaviour-sexually-in-life-see-refer-to
Um I actually don't date assholes my boyfriend is a sweet heart I was friends with him for 2, years and we are long distance so we sext a bit and had a boyfriend before him and I did some sexting with him to but I'm actually kinkyer with what I say 2 my current boyfriend.
Ok, what about the 5 points in the So section
if i become single i really only date my friends or people i know well anyway so if someone asked and i new them id probably give it a shot if i have a boyfriend i consider no one but him i do label some people as just friends but thats because thy have a personality i know won't end well with mine because thy have some jack as mood all the time lol i don't do hook ups
Oh right! So in the case of point 1, how does the friend suggest to her such a thing or let her know he finds her hot?
normally just saying he likes me or wants to be more than friends is what works on me sometimes im the one who does the flirting lol
How should he flirt?
it doesn't really matter how as long as he is not using those-those putrid lines thy will get u slapped
Ok but say in this case, Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
that's strangely specific? and just simply saying things like ya look nice works for me lol but i prefer when thy just tell me thy like me when im single
Yeah as I'm asking for advice on this girl? I'm already a good person, but how or what do I specifically do now she is single
just ask her if she would like to be more than friends
A bit too direct and unlikely to work except in a movie tho right?
Well I'm a bit of an idiot so I do think a guy likes me but I think I'm wrong till thy tell me lol 😂😂 but you could try saying she looks nice or her eyes are pretty till u are ready to ask
My boyfriend got me in a text message lol😂😂😂
What did he say and how do you let a girl know you like her if you're friends? And in my circumstance specifically
Not much I said something and he put a 😂 I asked what's so funny he said nothing I asked him to tell me he said that he was just thinking i like him a little I just said maybe I do maybe I don't he then said well I like you 😍 . But in your case I'm not so sure sence I'm only 16 and I'm a loner I'm not the best to ask
Ok fair enough
Why don't you ask that question on gag
i've heard women say "i did things for/with him i couldn't even imagine i'd do for any man". yes, certain men can pull out the pervert off of us... . usually guys described as alpha. alpha wannabes of thi site don't get cocky i'm not talking about your kind, don't take it as a compliment... .
I like this... true !! I'm A
Guys can say this too. People... just have their own experiences! I haven't even fallen in <3 yet myself for a different example. I feel like people have the right to make their own choices.
So are you saying that women will do things for some guys they wouldn't for another or indeed a good guy? So are you saying some guys can call you a slut and get away with it? Please explain in the context of the 5 points in the "So section"? About the guy who met her when taken and years later she is now single?
Interesting. Can u check out this take then on 2 guys and a girl? www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
So a good hot guy, why is he given your innocent side when a less attractive brash guy you act more slutty round? Even if both are your friends?
when a woman says "if i only could find a guy like you" she means you are not assertive enough. and are too needy. so she looks for a unicorn thats alpha but only has eyes for her.
I think you're not really answering my point. No one/woman has said that to me or to the guy I'm talking about lol.
Answer what I said: "So a good hot guy, why is he given your innocent side when a less attractive brash guy you act more slutty round? Even if both are your friends?"
If you prefer on this question: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2229447-can-you-match-who-a-sweet-woman-would-do-these-things-with-explain
no you obsessed creepy. you can't forceme to answer anything. get off your computer and stop being such an autistic control freak and get out there in the real world and make a positiv impact. bye bye.
Yeah you are NOT intimidating me by the way. I don't think you're very smart since you are just typing generic stuff, instead of reading what I'm writing. Then you are being abusive. It's hilarious. If you actually think I find your bullying intimidating and am going to bow down before a bitchy person, then you are mistaken. I learnt a long time ago to stand up for myself against morons like you. I merely requested politely that you either answer what I said, or not waste my time. Once again, either respond to the previous point I mentioned (to which you gave NO answer, and just typed some dribble) or else answer on my updated question.
your questions are ridiculous and not worth answering. no intelligent woman would give you the time of the day with that mindset. go live life. theorising will make you more autistic and a control freak. now go live life and thats genuine advice.
Yet again didn't read. Once again you demonstrate your own stupidity and ignorance. Your answers are totally irrelevant to the questions, do you get off on being rude to people and writing generic nonsense? My question is valid, others have answered reasonably and I ask once again, answer it properly, both this one and the updated version which might be easier for you to understand, it is summarised.
no. they aren't worth it. to give you a glimpse of wisdom: you ask the wrong questions. even if you have them answered you won't benefit in any way.
You can't tell the examiner that they asked the wrong questions. What type of nonsense is this? It is NOT up to you, to decide what I can and cannot ask. WHAT ARROGANCE. Your PATHETIC attempt to distract from your own lack of knowledge by hurling abuse at me and criticising the question instead of answering it is disgusting. Frankly in the time you have wasted, you could have read the UPDATED question I linked and answered it with your thoughts with a MEANINGFUL and RELEVANT answer. It does benefit otherwise wtf, why would I ask it in the first place? I'm not here to waste time (unlike you perhaps). I am here asking for help. That you would not help someone and BULLY them is disgusting. The only reason you aren't answering is most likely because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT lol. So either answer the update question or just admit you don't know.
who said that because you ask it you know whats good for you? in fact you are really lost and confused. its not a matter of knowledge its just that i can't bother with NONSENSE. you fail basic human psychology and especially women psychology. we are not robots we can't be predicted. and each human is unique. also you are a beta that is not the cause of things but the receiver and subject to the environment. the cause would CREATE ANY CIRCUMSTANCES HE WANTED and not be a slave to the current circumstances. you can make a slut into a saint and a saint into a slut anything is possible for the right man. want to get some game? stop with your inner voices and little (il)"logical" thought experiments and go out there and see how affairs really work.
Once again utter dribble. You seem like you might know something, but you're not saying anything lol. You could have answered the question in the mean time. Look just answer my question here:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2229447-can-you-match-who-a-sweet-woman-would-do-these-things-with-explain
nothing to asnwer there. you are stuck in your head. you are a loser because you choose to be. if yu can't even understand the benefit of my previous response you are almost hopeless. go study rsd tyler's free tour channel. And implement all these in real life daily. you have wayyyyyyy long to become present and get outside your head.
Once again bullying and acting as if you are intimidating me and somehow superior. You are not. You are the real loser here, your words have betrayed that already. Promoting some other channel is pointless as it won't answer my specific question. What a load of hogwash. You're a moron and I doubt you'd find a sweet guy or girl who would find this arrogance attractive. Answer my question or get lost tbh, I don't waste my words or time with irritating pests like you.
my advice was top notch. thats the last you hear of me. https://www.youtube.com/user/rsdfreetour/videos
In your twisted mind maybe, you advice was CRAP. Utter CRAP. Meaningless drivel unrelated to my question. Stop spamming with irrelevant links. That stuff is RUBBISH and not related to my specific question. Why don't you know that... oh wait, it's because YOU DIDN'T READ THE QUESTION moron.
your brain is rubbish. stay miserable for ever. pussies are afraid to take radical action after all. stay with your little intellectual wanking and thought experiments. stay with your childish beliefs and internet sterotypes and categorisation of people. good riddance!
You can't even write lol. Just re read what I wrote, you are a total moron. The reason you keep posting rubbish is because you haven't read the question.
the channel i posted will save your loser life. you will thank me one day. bye
I already responded about that, clearly you didn't even read that LOL. Your channel is CRAP just like your answers. It has NOTHING to do with my question which YOU DID NOT READ (the linked one). Read the link I sent you and answer it or stop wasting my time. You betrayed the fact that you are a loser who knows F**k all.
Im gonna keep it short because this is exhausting.
Firstly, there's more to liking someone than whether or not they're nice. My best guy friend? Totally nice dude. It's really awesome that he's sweet, it's a good trait. But are we compatible? No. Is his humor attractive? No. Do we have the same goals in life, or outlooks and attitudes? Not really. I don't feel a spark of passion solely because a guy is nice. I need there to be more there besides just "yeah he's really nice." I wanna be able to say, yeah he's such a sweet guy and really compassionate and our humor matches each other's perfectly and we think the same in a lot of ways and if we disagree he opens my mind up to think differently and he's a hard working ambitious guy blah blah a hundred other awesome traits. JUST NICE, isn't enough. I need to be attracted to you physically and mentally, not just appreciative of your niceness.
Secondly, instead of sitting around demonizing the guys who get girls and labeling them as assholes simply because they have what you want, GROW UP, stop spending all your time online moping, and be proactive in your life!!! If you leave your house and interact with actual human real life females like the nice and down to earth guy you THINK you are you WILL find a girlfriend.
Thirdly, no girl owes you shit.
Fourthly, if girls supposedly only were sexual with "the bad boys wah wah wah" then explain how many girls are pregnant by their boyfriend and husbands? No logic. Complete lack of logic. No connection to reality.
BECAUSE YOU LIVE ON THIS WEBSITE
What she said ^^^ best answer.
@thatguy321 damn I thought guys were gonna down vote this
That wasn't short!
@silver119 could've been much longer
Hahah
LOL "more to liking someone than whether... they're nice". Oh you don't say! OBVIOUSLY everyone knows that. This is not some "nice guy vs bad boy" piece. Clearly you didn't read it if that's what you're talking about. This is about GREAT guys who are confident, happen to be nice to women whilst still being attractive, making her laugh and sending sweet texts. Actually giving a damn and showing he cares versus guys who are less like that. Just because someone happens to be a friend or is sweet, does not mean they are also not attractive. WTF? By that argument then a nice girl is not owed anything. Which I disagree with, a nice girl deserves to be treated the best. If you actually care to read the take, then respond to the "So..." section with the 5 points, otherwise read the *** section.
" This is about GREAT guys who are confident, happen to be nice to women whilst still being attractive, making her laugh and sending sweet texts. Actually giving a damn and showing he cares versus guys who are less like that." Okay? Just because you are sweet to a girl and make her laugh doesn't mean she should fall for you. Shit a lot of people are caring and sweet and make me laugh if that was all it took to fall in love I'd be in love with like 7 people at the same time. Yeah, sometimes girls go for shitty guys. Guess what? Sometimes guys go for shitty girls. But no one goes "oh I like how this person is an ass it's so much more attractive than him being sweet." I've fallen for someone who turned out to not be a good guy at all. But he was many things I wanted and I fell hard. He was very sweet and all that good stuff but ultimately I saw his true colors.. does that mean I'm a dumb girl who only wants "bad boys"? Shut up and grow up. If she's with the guy who ends up being an
Ass over the supposedly nicer dude it's probably bc she is not aware of his true colors or she's in denial bc she loves everything else about him- i. e, he has qualities that are outstanding to her, despite that he's a dick. Also take into consideration that every human ever will hurt the feelings of their significant other at some point, most people will probably hurt everyone they date to some degree bc humans aren't perfect and when love is involved it's easy to get hurt. So guys like you hear a girl complain about a crappy thing her boyfriend did and automatically think "omg she's with a bad guy instead of me I'm perfect I would've never done that boo hoo" when in reality yeah you're gonna hurt someone at least once and also you probably have no relationship experience so you don't know how you'll be
Hi! Right I agree I'm not saying that at all. I thought I made it clear. But an attractive guy is surely someone who makes you laugh and feel great? What are you looking for then lol? Someone who treats you like crap or is less sweet?
What about this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
You are asking how a girl can't fall for a guy who is nice and funny that she "connects well with" or whatever. Do you ever stop to think that while you're thinking you're hitting it off she isn't? Maybe she's just thinking oh wow he's a cool friend? I don't fall in love with every cute funny guy. Especially not if I have a boyfriend. If I have a boyfriend, I love him very much and it's extremely unlikely someone can take me from him. Just because a girl doesn't fall in love with a nice funny guy doesn't mean she's looking for someone to treat her like crap, you're crazy. And maybe she doesn't even find you attractive. You seem to think you're a perfect catch to everyone and you're dumbfounded you don't have every girl you meet dropping to your feet. It's silly.
The point is the girl has BECOME SINGLE. Explain in the context of that paragraph I asked you, forget the take, don't be blinded by that. I asked the paragraph as a separate question to you since you had my point of view on this matter. The take is mainly quotes, I personally believe in being decent. "Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?" So what can this guy do in this situation?
Jeez if she just got out of a relationship can't you give her ample time to reflect on it and move on? Maybe she likes you. That's definitely possible. I just out of a relationship with someone who really hurt me. If I met a guy I hit it off with tomorrow he'd probably think I'm uninterested because I'd be guarded and wanting to still wait before giving my time and heart to someone. So there's that possibility. There's also the possibility she never liked you. You felt a connection, there's no guarantee she did. A guy once tried to tell me we have undeniable chemistry and he knows bc he feels it. Well I didn't feel it. Yeah we had good laughs and good conversations but I didn't feel anything for him. How can it happen? Um it's called not falling in love with everyone mildly cool lol Seriously you need to either ask her how she feels or move on
Oh did I not say? She's been single a year, what I meant is she is moving back shortly. Ok I get maybe it's just friendliness. I mean she is a really nice person in the same way I'm nice. So I guess both of us can't tell lol. So how do I know? I'd love to ask, but you can understand I value her and would be nervous to given she's a rare find, someone cute and nice? Not to mention the circumstances of us meeting?
Your best shot is to tell her how you feel.
How though? I'd love to tell her I fancied her, but can you?
Also check this take out if u can www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Tell her if you want something to happen. Quit bitching about it.
Er ok thanks for the rudeness, who's being bitchy LOL.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2161490-can-you-explain-this-girl-s-behaviour-sexually-in-life-see-refer-to
I think hot girls like me think like that haha. You can find ugly or fat girls that like nice guys
So what do you like, then?
Well if not the ugly and fat... What does that leave you haha
Im shocked at your attitude ! Why are you saying this?
Who you talking about boyo?
@Thatguy321 the opinion owner... Sorry
Pretty disrespectful. Stay off this take, no room for disrespect to others
Who are talking to?
@Djaaaaaay The anon poster. Being rude about girls and guys if you read her comment. Sounds like a typical bully tbh.
Guys do that too
Only BAD guys. Not good guys. Please reply about the "So" section
Do they?
Check this out pls www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Same answer, guys do it too. I guess it's a people thing regardless of gender Like how guys screw the hoes but want a wholesome girl for girlfriend or wife
Just saw your opinion over there and replied, good stuff! Yeah I kinda see what you mean, but tbh I don't think "good guys" do that. Only the jerks. Speaking as a good guy I'd much rather be dirty and also only have sex with good girls who I like. I've had bitchy attention seeking girls who THOUGHT they were hot throw themselves at me and I rejected them. I go for good girls. Trouble is knowing if the nice sweet girl who acts innocent is interested?
I guess that's true since I hear how some girls aren't as innocent as they appear but I honestly just think a guy brings it out of her. Ya I make it hard to let my interest be shown because I'm afraid he won't like me back
Yeah great point on the innocence. But how do you bring it out of her? If you're also a good guy like she is a good girl? Its the same view from the guy, how does he know she'll like it?
I don't know I guess he'll have to try new things but in a calm reassuring way without hesitation or nervousness
Sure, sure. It's just how do you know if you can call her dirty girl or pull her hair? As for if you're also a sweet guy as she is a sweet girl, how do you tell if she is interested back when she is innocent? And if you're a virgin, can you spend your first time with her if you already know each other (social circle) and she became single (about a yr)?
He can always ask if she's into dirty talk preferably before things get hot & heavy. Some girls don't mind showing interest, but I personally dont other than flirting but I do it in a way so the guy doesn't really know but he can think sometimes that I do. And if you're in the same social circle then you can easily get her number and try hanging out one on one
Ok sure but if she's an innocent girl like him, how does he ask that! Ok so how do you show interest/flirt? With a guy you know that is. I already have her number. We already text. What I'm asking is how to convey interest now she has been single for about a year and moving back. And then how to decline a group invite to catch up and meet up with her solo?
Oh then just ask her to go out sometimes don't trick her with no body showing up. I show interest by showing up randomly and being near the guy hoping he'll notice me. I'll smile and laugh a lot in his presence
Haha I'm not trying to trick her. I think you might have missed this part? "I already have her number. We already text. What I'm asking is how to convey interest now she has been single for about a year and moving back. She's single now so it should be fine right? And then how to decline a group invite to catch up and meet up with her solo? " I. e. not meet her amongst a group of friends, but to convey that I like to see her separately, not just as part of that group. And yeah well, enjoy her to myself? I'm unsure how to phrase, last time I met her by luck, so would like to do it deliberately this time, but given I can't really date atm, have less pressure?
Oh it sounds like tricking when you say ditch the group hang out
I never said ditch it. I'm saying I don't want to attend that if I can help it. Given it's the first time I'm going to see her for a while, i can't really suggest catching up solo if I just met her in a group can i! Any suggestions?
Well?