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Why clothes on curvy and average women always look more sexual, and why you shouldn't judge women on how they dress because of it.
The take that I didn't know was needed, but one that is deserved. So, here we are.
Right, let's get one thing straight. I do not endorse this new age Tess Holiday body positivity garbage. It supports this "woke" political correctness trash that simply gives SJWs a platform to be relevant for once in their lives who look and feel miserable. Do I wish people would stop trashing others for their appearance? Sure. But, like most I assume, I do not want to be told what is attractive for the sake of feelings. I am not claiming that one body type is more attractive than another. Everything has its own perks and its own shortcomings. As my savior, Ben Shapiro, once claimed: facts over feelings. Let's get to the facts.
The same dress dilemma
This is a model that appears close to the thin ideal that both most men and women constantly seek. She's not underweight. She has breasts. She's fine. I like this body, and it's healthy. What matters about this photo is that I like this dress, and I would definitely wear it. You'd easily see me in this as a casual look. Unfortunately or fortunately though, I don't have this body. I have something closer to the next photo's.
Ashley Graham. Not obese, perhaps slightly overweight if we're going off BMI, but super endearing and charming anyway. She has full breasts and a curve to her waist that gives her an hourglass figure. Her chest even stick out of the dress in such an obvious manner. The contrast is huge between this photo and the model's, which brings me to my next point.
Why is this girl considered elegant, cute, decent?
But this girl is described as trashy, inappropriate, and slutty?
See, the issue is that they're both wearing bikinis, but obviously one is not like the other. The girl with the brown bikini can walk in a mall with ripped jeans and a tight shirt with her cleavage busting out because her breasts are just that big, and be stared at as a sexual fiend. While someone like Gigi Hadid can wear something as equally "revealing" and not be scrutinized for it at all. I'm not saying those kind of bodies are not attractive, or cannot be sexual, but the girls that have full tits and a small waist are always the ones that are told what to wear, how to dress for "their body type", and most importantly, deemed as promiscuous.
These are the kind of girls you avoid like the plague because they aren't "wifey" material but they're the first choice to fuck. They're "alpha", they're "great sex", they have overflowing "sex appeal". I've heard it all before. If this is not your preference or thinking, this isn't directed at you, but I understand that a majority of men think lowly of women who dress too "sexy", even though it isn't the clothes that cause this perception, but the woman's own body.
So, what's the problem? And what's the point?
I don't want to be limited in my wardrobe because I'm considered too sexy, even when that isn't my intention and I don't feel that way. Of course there are some nights where I go out with friends or want to feel desired by a man, but on most days, I just throw on a v-neck, and I'm considered an easy fuck when I've never even had sex in the first place. I'm the gossip of the locker room. I shouldn't have worn "just a sports bra" in a gym. But no, other women can. I don't condemn men for the attention, I don't think a passing compliment is harassment, I even smile and strike up a conversation at times. But I'm over apologizing for how I look, and I don't think losing weight and a body that I love is the solution to make it all go away. I'm sure a lot of women who aren't model thin feel this way, and it isn't just a problem exclusive to this body type. So, don't scrutinize us for wanting to dress in clothes that thinner women can dress in just because it looks different, and more sexual on a frame with big breasts or an arching hip.
All in all.
People are human at the end of the day, and while sex is great I'm sure, take a chance to get to know the person in the bikini or dress a bit before you turn to your friend and giggle about how slutty that girl looks and must be, or how she should dress more appropriately due to an insecurity of your own. I like body positivity in that you should feel comfortable with yourself if you are. If you want to lose weight, lose weight! I'm here for it. If you don't want to, that's fine too. If you agree with this sentimentality, then apply it to yourself and don't bash those with body types that you don't have, and therefore, you don't understand. Every body has its own vices and virtues, and everybody is not how they initially seem. Don't believe that? Ashley Graham (the model above) abstained from sex for years before she met her husband. Thanks for reading, didn't expect you to read all of it, and thanks for hearing me out.
What Girls & Guys Said
22 49Ashley Graham looks so good, regardless of what she wears.
People shouldn't judge people period, but unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.
appears close to the thin ideal that both most men and women constantly seek.
No no no
First off all, I don’t think the model on the first picture looks healthy, she looks underweight. The girl in pic number three looks healthy.
But about this, it is really just about knowing your body and yourself and dressing accordingly, yes it looks more sexual with the big woman in the bikini because it doesn’t fit her, it looks like it is too small, and her breast and butt can’t even fit inside.
Boobs and ass.
true.
the 4th girl is just fat, but people are beating around the bush too much.
The 4th girl is the same girl in the 2nd photo. More like men don't understand how clothes work.
already knew, i'm not blind.
Do they, though? Or, are you basing your question on the assumption that they do and then ask us why is it?
Pic 2,3 ,6 are best. No problem with curvy, just obesity.
Agreed.
Not obese perhaps, but overweight yes.
@xyz94 What?
I just said that Ashley Graham is perhaps not obese, but that she is overweight.
Because most men dick instantly want to rise when they see big tits juicy thighs and a fat sample ass. Its soft its cuddle it's nice to the touch when they fucking it. Men who trash fat thick or curvy women hasn't fucked one yet. Bigger girls tend to have fatter juicier and tighter pussies too.
I mean I'm all for body positivity but it's not true that having more weight on you will make "fatter juicier and tighter pussies", it really differs from person to person
I'm telling u what guys talk about. Cause I be nosey lol so I be eaves dropping and going on they sites too
No it doesn't differ like that
? That's really up for personal opinion and there is absolutely no scientific data to support that claim. Just because someone is heavier than another which can either be determined by an unhealthy lifestyle of a pre existing condition that was passed on, it doesn't affect what they would feel like to a guy. Maybe the sites you're going on are ones where they prefer those type of woman so they would naturally say that to make them sound even better but it's not true. While it may be true in certain cases such as a guy has only had one sexual partner or two, it still would be rare to find a guy who had experienced strictly what you described the woman's body as being and even then more rare when factoring in the actual likeliness of it being tighter than average
Girl bye. Lol the scientific consensus would be mere opinion from surveying people😂😂😂😂😂
No difference.
In the case of the dress dilemma example I personally believe the dress is horrible looking for either person to wear... So typically speaking the tight or form fitting outfit on the average womans curvy body is more sexually speaking simply Bec that's how the fashion industry has portrayed sexiness for many generations but in my opinion anything pretty that accentuate the female form will be sexy and beautiful Bec the average curvy female body is a thing of beauty... JS
I have the same problem with my huge dong.
Nice.
Curvy women just fill out clothes better.
Umm that's kinda just life.
1. If you're overweight, look into eating healthier and getting in shape. (I get in about 45 mins of walking a day on my lunch break)
2. If you have big tits or such, then obviously you gotta adjust. Like, I shop a lot at goodwill for business casual clothing. I have one pair of business casual slacks that are a little baggy but they are comfy, they don't look weird on my butt, and even if I have a hard on only a little adjustment is needed.
Buuutt I also have a pair of chinos that are a littttttle tight on my butt, and if I got a hard on for any reason it would be about as subtle as dropping my pants.
I think you missed the point but okay.
"If you have big tits or such, then obviously you gotta adjust." Do you have huge man boobs or something? If not, then why do you think that boobs would be the same compared to you getting a boner? Boobs don't just disappear and reappear when ever someone gets turned on, they're there all the time if you haven't noticed and it's in no way like your personal issue.
These females you've shown as "curvy" are simply fat.
you have a weird idea of what fat is
@Logan_ No I don't. I have a very normal idea of what fat is.
Oh I get it - you're gay
@miklail they are pretty girls, not really my type but probably many guys type.
@miklail All 10s but not my type
@miklail I like real girls
@miklail truth I like girls in my life not pictures.
@miklail Why do you ask about these girls? What I mean is I like girls in person, not pictures of girls.
how are you anonymous when you have a pic of yourself? Or is that someone random from the internet?
@DianaWest He used a picture from the cover of a homosexual erotic novel, I think he's gay
Curvy just means that their bodies have an ideal hip to waist ratio with a smaller waist than the hips. If you think these women are fat, then I wonder what your idea of curvy is? Since the spectrum goes from thin, average, to fat. Curvy can be applied to any woman who has that thin waist, and thinner woman's proportions are small, so their curves aren't popping out at all.
"Curvy" is a worthless term because it is misappropriated by fat girls to tell themselves and others that they're attractive when they're not. THIS girl is "curvy" in all the best possible ways.
Most of the ones pictured above as "curvy" are just overweight and telling themselves that they compare to girls who look like this, when they don't. It just is what it is.
Guys like you r true narcissists - u think that your opinion is the only opinion and its what all guys think. You think you can define curvy to ur standards and it's true for everyone... you don't speak for me or many of my friends. I like curvy women like those she posted and so do many guys.
@Logan_ By your logic, you're also a true narcissist, because you're doing the same thing just in a different way. Spare me, dude. They're fat.
no - I know different guys have different opinions on what they're attracted to. You don't... you think u speak for every guy
How is that girl curvy?
She is literally bent over. Show me a girl standing straight that is curvy.
You know what, no. I don't care what deluded world you live in that thinks a girl sticking her ass out is curvy when we both know that there is literally nothing there. For someone who chooses to represent themselves through a fake photo of someone else, wow. You're a loser and that's all it is. Be on your way.
@Logan_ No, I know that I speak for most guys. I know I don't speak for every guy. @JanetJa I don't know why you seem to be taking my comment personally.
Once again - your narcissism is showing
Janet, that woman in the picture he showed is definitely curvy.
@Gavyn She is bent over. Sticking her ass out. How is that curvy? That's called a pose.
@JanetjJa @DianaWest See here: goodreads. com/book/show/25945054-coming-home He likes guys that's why he doesn't like curves
@JanetJa @DianaWest See here: goodreads. com/book/show/25945054-coming-home He likes guys that's why he doesn't like curves
thin girls can be curvy. that girl he showed is pretty hot (her body, her face is alright). I don't agree with his rudeness, but there is no need to start body shaming thin women now. every woman is insecure, regardless of her size. maybe she got to that state after struggling for decades with her weight. you never know.
Well may be my decision of not watching TV has cut my perception on a different way of people so, may be I'm the rare here but... This is my opinion:
Between the model and the average girl I would invite to a drink to the average girl with a huge difference of preference.
(in fact I would think the model has some problem with food)
I would never think at first sight the blond girl is elegant and decent ( how many brazalets does she have on her arm? And what does her body language say? Which is the size of her pendants?) I would think about kinky and narcissist more that the other, but may be I'm wrong so I would talk with her before to see what she says.
The slutty and trashy looks more like shy to me and by her race I would have care of what to say because Arabic culture is more traditionalist that western cultures, but it's a culture reason, her race just warn that is very likely she has that culture.
And last, about wearing the same dress with different bodies, it's a bad idea unless you are working with uniforms. I think you must wear the dress which better suits to you, and that's what will give you more value about dressing.
I don't like the rates as rate of beauty, but let's say I use something like that to decide which one I would prefer Before talking to her. The model would be a 4 The blonde would have a 6 Average with dress of model would have a 6 The shy girl would be a 7, she looks smart too And the last one would have a 6 too.
She is too thin, anorexic may be?
Because without clothes, you can see all the disgusting cellulite and fat rolls and stuff. So they look much better WITH clothes.
I hope that answers your question.
What cellulite, what fat rolls? Are the two women I showed have any of that? The girl in the brown bikini literally has a flat stomach. It's crazy how illogical men are.
I don't understand why you were thumbed down so much by girls. You're entitled to your opinion too - so men don't like larger sizes, and that's ok!
@xyz94 You are literally insane. You comment and thumbs down everything I do and say smh. Get a life, bitch. Blocked
She definitely has rolls or the beginnings of above her hips and below them. She also has a lot of cellulite. Even under her arms.
That's because the bikini bottom straps are tight. Doesn't mean that she has rolls. Where is the cellulite? Like, I really can't see any? Are you mistaking the grainy quality of the photo as cellulite? Really?
It's not the bikini. It's on her stomach more visible.
Why is this so important to you anyway? She has plain as day cellulite. Am I wrong?
Her stomach is flat though. It's not bulging out of the bikini. Like, I'm really not trying to argue with you here. So, you wouldn't have sex with that girl? Even though she's absolutely gorgeous. I know it's an opinion, but I'm surprised you don't share it.
And you are wrong. There is no cellulite. Please look up pictures of actual cellulite. In most cases anyway, you can't tell from a photo alone unless the girl is obese.
Where did I say I wouldn't have sex with her?
That's just my assumption since you refer to "disgusting cellulite and fat rolls". "Look much better WITH clothes." What the heck...
Isn't it the truth? What looks better rolls and cellulite or the good parts about that body accentuated by clothes? And then take a perfect bodied woman like blonde one. She has a great body without clothes.
But... the point is... that she doesn't have any. The photo quality is grainy. And you can obviously see that from her right hip, the line from her waist and hip is smooth. She has an hourglass with full hips and full breasts, and pouty lips, and I think she'd look a thousand times better naked than Gigi. She actually reminds me of Kim Kardasian and her body. So, no, I definitely disagree with you. Gigi isn't attractive to me at all, and he face is nowhere as pretty.
But she basically is naked and doesn't look as good. It's plain as day. She is completely disproportionate. Even with that huge, thick hair, it looks like she has a massive body and a tiny head. Look at her legs, they are like tree trunks. You could build a treehouse on those things. She has rolls forming where her legs meet her pelvis. It's not attractive. She is just too big.
Okay, that's your crazy opinion lmao.
It's not crazy. It's 100% rational and justified.
Oh my... God. Rational? No. Men always love to claim that when the rational thing is that women gain weight easier naturally to have healthy babies. They have those tree trunk legs to push out your babies. Well, definitely not yours lol. It's so sad that you mistake unnatural, surgically enhanced bodies as natural when they're the most disproportionate thing in the world. Okay, I get it. You're an incel who uses some equally crazy profile photo. It's your opinion that you don't like that body type. Doesn't mean that it's unattractive to someone else, nor does it mean that it's fat. To me, that's a very average body. But, hey, I'm a woman who has a woman's body and not a little boy's. What do I know? lol. It's your opinion, but it's crudely illogical. I hope you don't impregnate anyone, but you probably never will.
Oh I get it. You don't like my opinion because that's what you look like and you resort to ad hominem to try and discredit me when in reality you know next to nothing about me.
You don't know what I look like, or I am either. I'm thinner than those girls but I'm not a perfectly thin model either, as most women are. It truly disgusts me that men are so quick to attack women based on how fuckable they are to them, discounting all biological differences. Women have more fat than men to carry your children, and then you insult women of reasonable appearances. I hate obesity and I don't endorse obese women poisoning this new age mentality. But these women are not even unattractive, which is what makes me astounded. Also, you're not some attractive or charming guy if you cater an account based around false images for GAG of all websites with negative input. I don't need to know you to know that much.
@JanetJa You totally got triggered. Lol Why post this when you can't take it when men give you their opinion? Being healthy and fit is a choice. And the women you gave as an example are obese and won't be considered attractive by all men. They still have decent proportions, but most women don't have an hourglass shape. Just like most women don't look like a Victoria secret model, which surprise, all men know. Men can have their preferences, just like us women can have our preferences. Men and women are biologically attracted to health. Obesity = not healthy.
@JanetJa Gigi Hadid is more beautiful than Ashley Graham. why are you so defensive when people are sharing their opinions? Sheesh. I get it, some people are too rude, but why are you wasting your energy on them? Trying to change their opinion?
genes
Because when someone finds curvy women attractive, then no matter what they wear, they will be considered more appealing.
Well as men i find sexy fit body, not currvy, not fat, not cuby or how else you call it. Fit girl looks greate in almost anything, and they look amaising in dress. Sorry but not sorry, i can't say same about owerweight, cuby, curvy body.
Why you just can't accept that to look good you need to work on your body to. Im currvy (read as lazy as fuck), now you must like my body, hell with it.
Wonderful take!
This is a good take. Choose what you wear to look your best.
I do not approve of body shaming.
Thank you very much.
your man card has been revoked!