Why do girls want nothing more than to be treated like whores?

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So, all you get these days from members of the female sex is "NICE GUY" hate. A man has to be confident to the point of being an arrogant narcissist, content to the extent of being self-obsessed, assertive to the extent of ordering his girl to fulfil his every demand at his beckon call. To get the girl, a man has to be utterly nonchalant about a woman's feelings, and completely uncaring about what that woman actually wants in any field of life whatsoever, placing his own selfish whims and urges above hers every time. To do anything else, even as a token understated gesture, is to become the eternally castigated "nice guy". Nice guys allegedly think that kindness begets kindness, and are under the mistaken oppression that women actually want to be treated like human beings too, trying to treat women the way that they themselves would want to be treated if the roles were reversed. But they always fail, because girls don't actually want equal treatment in a relationship. Any show of effort, any romantic gesture, is castigated as a "nice guy" move- the 'guilty party' is always accused of only being kind because he allegedly thinks that it'll entitle him to "have his way" with the female involved, and is universally condemned as an insidious prick. Any complaints about being wrongly branded as a "nice guy" only incur accusations that he's a bitter and resentful loser. So the only way to avoid getting branded as a "nice guy" by a female, and to not have that tag tossed at you for the rest of your life, is to become the baddest guy possible. To be deemed desirable, to qualify as a "bad guy", and NOT be cited as a "nice guy", a man is forbidden from caring about any girls' feelings or wellbeing in the slightest- "Real Men" apparently only care about one thing. To be a "Real men", you're demanded to go into full asshole mode and treat all girls like they have no worth or purpose beyond their sex value. I don't understand- why do all girls seem to want to be treated this way?

biablo · Accepted Answer

Wow it's incredible that you pulled all that off. It's quite correct except the last part and this is not only my belief but also studies (not gonna put them cause it's not worth the time, you do the research). It's because of evolution (biology stuff) and how attraction it's created between two persons. Long story-short, to create attraction people has to do/go through a pull-push. Ever heard of 'those who says they hate each other actually love each other'? Something like that but with lots of details. So, a 'nice guy' usually will spend lot of time/money on someone WITHOUT having made a sexual statement, or at least something that suggest that he likes her. That's also another reason of why there are so many maaaany idiots being like 'I'm in the friendzone' that's plain selfish, why should a girl like you? Cause you're nice? Fucktard, we're suppoused to be nice to people, so don't expect another outcome. Resume: first you gotta generate attraction and that YES as you said it's done with the same or even less amount of attraction that the girl puts cause putting more would be a waste. Then you gotta generate Comfort and after that think of fucking her.

This was a resume, just that, don't expect real answers if you don't look up yourself but a way to find out more without the whole biological explanation (at least worked for me) it's reading the process that PUAs make. I don't care what's your opinion about PUAs, whether it's right or wrong, I just want you to know that the PROCESS they follow it's true. by the way just in case, lot of people say PUAs are manipulators and just to let you know if you're one, the whole PUA thing was leaded thanks to cientific papers about patters about the behaviour (those can be useful too) of people. Of course not all people are the same, but there are patters, also, you said that you see these ' bad guys' not caring about girls, personally I don't think it's that way (sure there are pricks) but you need to experiment it yourself. I can assure you your belief will change (not Jehova witness).

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

SORRY LADIES BUT ITS TRUE YOU LOVE TO BE FUCKED LIKE WHORES

WhatAreYouReading · Accepted Answer

I don't know most of the "nice guys" I've met are not what I'd consider nice guys. Most have deep deep insecurity issues and come across as very bitter. My friends call it nice guy syndrome. Any guy who doesn't have game seems to just label themselves nice and insist that girls must not like them because of it. When a girl tells you "Your nice but..." it's an attempt to let you down lightly as to not shatter your ego, it's not the reason that they don't like you 95% of the time.

Another mistake I see many "nice guys" make is that they come across as desperate. If you more or less show interest anyone & everyone, any girl with self-esteem is not going to want you. Girls want what most guys want... to win, to be chosen, be desired - they do not to be your only choice after striking out everywhere else. When you come across as interested too much in the same pool (group of friends, co-works, locale watering hole, on your wall on facebook), it diminishes the kind of effect your interest is going to have. That's definitely a situation that you'll here "Aw, your a very nice sweet guy, but I'm just not dating" or "Your so nice, I am sure you'll find someone".

REALisRARE · Accepted Answer

So half way through this rant I had to stop. Your wrong. I can only spean for me, that being said. I know my flaws: I can be a jerk at times. I'm opinionated. I'm stubborn. I'm have this longing for freedom to the point that I'm ridiculously indecisive because all I really want to do is live my life with my head in the clouds. So when I say I need a real man, I mean I need a man who knows my flaws and accepts them. When I'm a jerk, he can put me in my place without dominating me but by making me realize "hey, you're being a jerk, check yourself" and rightfully so. When I'm being opinionated, I don't want a guy that will bow down and agree with me. I like him to respectfully stand firm on his beliefs. When I'm being stubborn he let's me, until it is needed for him to pull the trigger, because I need that. I need a man that leaves me free but that knows when to bring me back down to earth. So by "real man" I mean one who can balance me. He is everything I'm not, and I'm the things he is not. This balance is exactly what I need in my real man. Now... that's just me and my 2 cents for your rant. ; )

Rainie_ · Accepted Answer

Lol generelisations much...
It's not the "bad boys" that I like, it's the confident and charismatic guys I like, and which presumably a lot of girls do too. And a lot of successful bad boys just happen to have this trait.
Plus I could say the same about guys liking bad girls. Some people want things that are not always good for them. But most people are generally attracted to self confident people.

SarahsSummer · Accepted Answer

I could not agree with you less! Treat me like a whore you get a free throat punch.  A nice guy with confidence (like the man I have) gets the rest of me.

MaskedSanity · Answer

"In this treacherous world Nothing is the truth nor a lie. Everything depends on the color Of the crystal through which one sees it." - Pedro Calderón de la Barca

FlutteringFeelings · Answer

Not i

XNicholeMariex3 · Answer

I like being treated like a nun. Oooohh yes baby  You read that bible to me Yesssss moorreee moreeee

9mfeo · Answer

And the neckbeard award goes to...

FreedMan · Answer

I apologize in advance for necro'ing this but this question bothers the hell out of me. Mainly because I was this guy in my formative years. I'm 35 now, stable albeit divorced (thank the good lord above!), and I do very well for myself both financially and in relationships (only ever dating at this point). To qualify all of this I was married for 11 years, have 3 kids, a few physical partners (no romantic ones at the moment as I'm in the process of moving cross country), I make a decent living as a network admin and I'm going to school for law so I've been around a bit and dealt with more than a bit. I came across a piece of advice when I was in my early 20s and for the life of me can't recall where I heard/read it or I'd credit it properly. But the core lesson is this:

There's a keen difference between being nice and being good in the modern dating definition of what you're describing. In dating jargon "Nice Guy" is doing for others with the expectation that something will be given in exchange. Good is being your own man/woman and willing to walk away from those you don't respect. Speaking for myself, vagina is not the be all end all. I respect myself too much to alter who I am for something like that. If you approach a woman with the intent of pursuing something more you need to set some boundaries for yourself.

Don't give of yourself to them just yet. In the very literal sense they're a stranger to you. Do you let strangers borrow your car? Do you do above and beyond favors for strangers? Of course not; with the exception of charitable ventures like giving blood or donating food. By not giving of yourself I also mean mentally and emotionally. She (and ladies I say she in a lot of this because I'm speaking from the men's side of things and a lot of this can be applied in reverse) hasn't earned the right to your mental health, your vulnerabilities, or your insecurities. You should go in with the confidence of a multi-million dollar business deal where you're holding all the cards. If she rebuffs you then you walk away. You don't come back with "but... but... but...". You peace the fuck out. I've left dates in the middle of dinner with the tab because of things they've said or done (mainly when a woman tries the shit test on me). This isn't me being an alpha Chad or treating her like a whore. This is me saying "You don't respect me or my time enough to have an authentic experience with me so I'm out". Also, if you're already friends don't fuck with it. Just don't. I don't really believe in the friend zone as much as I believe that true friends are hard to come by so be one to someone who treats you as an equal.

The nice things that OP mentioned... those don't start until you're already dating as a couple. I'm not talking about flowers though women do love them some flowers and they're not that pricey and it makes them feel special for a bit so why not if you're interested and it won't mess with your budget? But the true giving of yourself that would otherwise be labeled as "Nice Guy" behavior despite you having the best of intentions? That shouldn't happen until she's yours. And the inverse is true too. If you're on your first or even second date and she unloads all of her childhood trauma on you... it's time to go because she's not stable enough to be looking for a date and needs to work on herself. During the relationship you need to be willing to walk away from her still despite your best efforts to treat her well. If she doesn't appreciate the effort then spend it on someone else who will and she can return to being alone.

And OP all of this is predicated on you getting to truly know yourself. Get some hobbies that interest you. Develop your relationships with your guy friends and cut out the ones that seem to be floundering in life. Go to the gym and work on your body if you're not already; and I say this not for looks though that is a side benefit but for the dopamine hits you get from tackling physical challenges and overcoming them. Read some philosophy books and grow your mind. All of it builds your confidence and it trickles down into how you interact with others. I hope you are well and thriving since posting this and I wish you all the best.

briefcandle · Answer

Its pretty simple, heterosexual women want an opposite. That doesn't mean that we like jerks, its just that a lot of us don't like whiney guys who over groom.

Nice guys are sexy, but they have to have an edge at least

UtopianLobotomy · Answer

That's a generalization, but I think most women do want a confident masculine man, at least innately they do because it is evolutionary psychology that is embedded in their genetic predispositions towards sexual attraction.

However, with the lack wars at our back door natural predators and being sheltered from the elements with basically no effort combined with law and order - there are an awful lot of posers out there that pretend to be alpha to get girls and they are the dishonest ones that typically treat their women like shit.

Real alphas have codes and are not psychos or sociopaths - those would be the posers - they are honest and simply masculine by nature, they are dominant but not assholes, only abrasive.

Mr_Hyde · Answer

That's total bull. Girls do find confidence really attractive, but your confusing confident gentlemen with cocky douche-bags. Not to mention "whore" is a antiquated term, women can have sex just as much as men, when was the last time a man was seriously called a whore.

... or are you just trollin?

trumpetplayerforlife · Answer

I don't want to be treated like a whore I want to be respected no I deserve to be respected and a relationship isn't about sex and guys u can down vote me if u wnat but u know if its true love you would wait as long as she wanted and not cheat or ask her everyday. I have respect for myself and I dont just want to be a toy for a guy to use so

mantelk · Answer

My brother,
Let me save you some headache. Most people are not going to give you a proper answer because they don't have a soul left. Any older person will know that the insecure guy with shaky voice is the one that really cares about the girl and will love her till she is 100. The reason why they want to be treated like whores is because they are whores. Few generations back it wasn't like this. People cared about love. I blame modern Western civilization. The women of today don't deserve any real love and will never find it. They want to party and do drugs and be treated like whores and when they are older and used and abused they realize the "nice guy" was the one who had their best interest at heart. These girls don't want to be made love to. They want to be fu****. As women become older and mature they once again become attracted to good men. Unfortunately modern society has become devilish. Ur better off being single than with these girls my man. They don't deserve you. To get them you need to sell your soul, as players and narcissists have. It's not worth it. You show slightest weakness and insecurity, they are completely turned off. These aren't women. They are sick. They are perverted and would prefer someone who abused them than someone who isn't always super aggressive. When I was young I was a bully and a little bit criminal minded. These girls were all over me. After some life struggle I developed some anxiety issues and women aren't really interested anymore. Do you really want these kinds of women who are cruel when you are down but worship you when you are rich, popular and a narcissist? As I said women don't exist anymore. Today's girls don't have much soul left. They like being treated like whores because they are whores. All good qualities are seen as weakness and all ugly qualities as strength. I hope these truth bombs were refreshing for you my man. They don't deserve you. I've seen both sides of the coin

Anonymous · Answer

Stfu. Guys are more whores than girls will ever be. We girls JUST started to explore ourselves since we were property not TOO long ago

Anonymous · Answer

Well i don't i hate it..
i'm still trying to find the nice guy with who i would get in relationship
if it's good answer for you
i never had boyfriend cause i always seemes to attract as*holes and i don't want to be with them

Anonymous · Answer

Because we can want whatever we want. Nobody go stop me so what are you getting at?

Anonymous · Answer

PLEASE DON"T FEED THE TROLL

Why do girls want nothing more than to be treated like whores?

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