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Why do so many men believe that buying someone dinner or drinks entitles them to sex?
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21 110Because they have no game or personality and they think relying on their money and offering to buy women dinner or drinks is the only way to get some pussy.
You can’t offer to pay for something and then expect them to pay you back. I used to be friends with someone who would invite me over to order food and then would expect me to pay for everyone. You can’t invite someone over for food and then tell them to pay lol. you're the one who invited me, you're the one who offered. Now I gotta pay you back? Fuck off lol.
I wouldn't mind if in mood tbh lol
That's not the point...
Well for that not always but sometimes only sometimes it is to do with our own behaviour as well that they get this expectations... I mean a girl like me who is always very open n flirty would be sending such signals (even if it isn't in my mind but the guy buying me dinner will assume) But for most part ibagree it is not a valid expectation and they shouldn't have such expectations at all
Why do women expect a man to pay and get nothing in return? If you believe you don't owe him anything, then pay for your own meal.
I'm a strong believer in paying separately. Paying for someone's food implies their time is more valuable than your own. It doesn't matter who asked first either. Girls tend to say "whoever asks the other out" because they know that guys are usually the ones to ask them out. Those are also usually the kinds of girls that don't ever ask a guy out. If the person agrees to go with you, it should mean that they want to go out for the experience of being with you and not for a free meal. Even if you're rich, the gesture that a girl pays their own meal goes a long way because it shows they're going into it with an "equal" mentality and have no intention of being a gold digger. If you want an equal relationship, then you shouldn't apply a different standard to your date that you would your best friend.
I would rather treat my partner with a meal when we're in an official relationship. I'd never treat a first date better than my actual partner. It just doesn't make any sense.
Because apparently you are a bad judge of character and go out with men with no class.
I have never gone out with a mob who has don’t that to me but I have plenty who have approached with that mindset
That's unfortunate. Never heard of such things in my social circle... or my country for that matter.
I dunno. Honestly i dont believe it does.. On that same token no woman is entitled to anything a man has.
Basically no one is entitled to anything the opposite sex has. if that makes sense lol
Of course not no longer one is saying other wise
Did auto correct mess with you @subarugirl? I know no one is saying that.. but there are a lot of women that feel entitled to men as a resource. Not all, not even most, but there are some crappy people in both genders lol
Those guys are selfish idiots.
That's why.
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Because in their minds they're making an investment and expect a return on it. Sadly, like all investments, some have negative returns. That's why I don't think guys should be buying women they're not dating anything. You don't place any expectations on her and she doesn't get the opportunity to get unearned free stuff from you.
Better than getting a pro off the street, and cheaper...
Whats worse is the war of Troy, all about 2 royal family members making their armies fight over 1 woman.
Back to your question. I guess ots insecurity and inexperiance along with clouded judgement that makes some men think tjat a dinner is a VIP ticket to a girl's panties. There are also some women, not all, not most but some who use guys like them for free meals without any intensions going to date.
Good question. I'm eager to know too. But I think the women caused it.
"But I think the women caused it. " how so?
Well, for one if he can't afford dinner? I would have to agree you may or may not get sex but chances are low if you can't do the basics 😉
I'm not sure just "how many men" think this way because there's very little data available on the subject. I also think it's different depending on the culture of country or group in particular. If you can find some surveys less than 5 years old, please link me.
One thing I can tell you - if you date a guy who thinks that way, paying for your portion on date #1 is NOT going to change his expectation, nor does it make a statement to him that you're off the hook for any expectation. Guys who think like that don't care if you pay your share or not - they still expect it.
Why do so many women believe that they're entitled to a free dinner and drink?
Huge ego comes to mind.
Prostitutes are supposed to offer a service for the money, attention and free meals they receive.
I'm going to say something that might not be too palatable, but I mean it as respectfully as possible. It's pure ponder, so please don't take it too seriously. But sometimes I wonder if you're actually regarding men as you've met them, or men as you think they are. Like, if you're regarding men that you've met, I honestly don't know where you meet these type of people. I feel like 95%, if not more, of the men I know wouldn't think that. And it leaves me to question if you're talking about actual men, or some sort of figurative idea of "men" that you've mentally formed.
all you have to do is look through the comments here to find those men... and there are plenty.
I prefer dinner after sex. I don't want to waste my money and time
since when is enjoying the company of someone you like spending time with a waste of time?
If it's someone i like, I'd be happy even without sex.
exactly, so if you were going out with people you actually like it wouldn't be a waste of time would it.
No it wouldn't be. Nothings better than time spent with loved ones.
The same way so many women think that a man asking them out entitles them to have to pay for there meal… men do it from social acceptance.. but unless I know you well, and we are comfortable with each other both parties should pay for themselves… my thing is, when she is ready to have sex, then you can have your meals paid for.
an easy solution to that would be to not asked out for a meal... personally I wouldn't invite someone over for dinner and expect them to bring their own food. It's basic etiquette. If you are going to treat sex as transactional you should be looking into a sex worker... not a relationship
Well, since society pushes a man to chase a woman.. it’s kind of unfair that that is the expectation. When the women, usually has nothing to offer.. even to hold or carry a conversation… it’s pathetic. What have done as a solution to all of that is I just ask them to go on a picnic if I really am into them. If not, I’ll take them for a drink or some ice cream and we can sit and talk. But I have refused to pay for food. And if she brings up food. Then that means she is going to pay herself.. And once I know that’s there is something deeper and it’s going somewhere, I’ll then think about
Then why are you complaining about perusing women you don't like, respect or who don't contribute to the relationship. There are plenty of women who are all of those things and more...
Lol if I’m complaining.. then what is the original post you posted.. lol the same thing you told me, you can take to heart yourself.. practice what you preach
I don’t date so I’m not sure what you mean
If you don’t date then why ask the question in the first place? When it doesn’t happen to you?
Why accept drinks at all if that’s the feeling you have about it. You don’t want that situation don’t accept free stuff from men lol
Well if it comes with strings attached it’s not free is it?
I asked because I want to know why some men think that buying a woman a drink she didn’t ask for entitles him to her body
Haha. Touché you are right on that…
The answer is… most men don’t.. the few that do are all that women think about and cast a shadow over every other man.. that’s the problem that keeps on happening.
Well it’s not like the ones who aren’t that way are labeled
Most men feels like you are saying the majority of men.. when in reality it’s probably less than half.. I know myself and other men in my circle, we have no expectations from a woman on first impressions.. but I’m not going to say categorize most men for the actions of my small group of men in my inner circle
I never said most
You are right… you didn’t say most… many to me and most felt like the tone of this post. I apologize for my error.
No one expects it, we hope for it... Well I've never took a girl on a date but I imagine guys who do buy drinks hope for it... Not expect it... You gotta be delusional if you think a girl will give you sex cos you bought her a drink
Big difference between the word expect and hope
No idea. Actually feels like a prostitution transaction in a sense. Dinner for sex. 😂
Because you come into the date with the entitlement of being paid so why don't we get entitled to something?
You women deliberately set up the system so men pretty much have to be the ones to initiate and then you act shocked that we are bitter about having to pay for everything without getting anything in return.
Luckily most women I have gone out with have actually paid for me at roughly the same rate I have paid them. My last fwbs even took me out to Gold Star a few times.
Hahaha women set up the system, that’s a good one
You women rule the dating market and have full control over it essentially, at least in the west.
Only the top 10% of women are like that … for the grand majority of the population they do the best with what they have… that should sound familiar to you.
Women have unique advantages in the dating marketplace that men just don't have. My last roommate before my current one was a female friend and she could get men to send her gifts without ever having seen her face or giving anything to them in return. Why? Because a lot of men are fucking driven insane by their dicks and can't control themselves. If you exploit that you can make a lot of money off of men and getting attention from men is incredibly easy. I'm bisexual, I know how to seduce guys and it is incredibly simple.
Women on the other hand are a lot more complicated, especially since I give a shit and I feel bad about asking women out because they get flooded with so much attention to fucking begin with. When I see all kinds of women surrounded by simps then what else am I supposed to conclude except that women have men on a leash? Do you have any idea what it would be like for men if women acted like men and simped towards men?
I mean fuck, let's compare our inboxes and see which one of us has control over the opposite sex more.
So basically you’re upset because in your mind men can’t control themselves so women should just roll over and cater to their dicks lol 😂 I don’t think so.. that’s not how the real world works. Cheep attention that’s giving to be just because someone wants to get into my pants isn’t worth that much… quality over quantity my man.
No, I think simps flood inboxes of women so women value male attention less. I'd like men to change if anyone but free will and all ya know?
It’s not that we don’t value men, most of us just don’t enjoy disingenuous compliments and attention that’s paid to us just because they want to get off.
I don't like disingenuous compliments either, I agree 👍