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Why are some average penis guys upset if a girl prefers bigger?
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Why do some guys with average penises get so upset if a girl says she prefers a larger penis? Rebuttal to common arguments 1.Preference is not a bad thing. Following it is not a bad thing either. Guys have a preference on vagina size to. 60% of women are naturally average, 30% naturally large, 10% naturally tight Bet a lot of guys wouldn't want the 30% girls. 2. It's not being picky despite the fact that penis size "can't" be changed (surgery). We're not talking about changeability we're talking about if average. And for some factors average is not. Average in personality -if it was good then people would describe themselves as average not smart, witty, charming, understanding, caring, etc Average in intelligence - no way the average American isn't that bright. thanks education system and tv. Average in weight- no way that's obese/overweight. 68% of Americans are overweight 34% overweight/34% obese Average is not always good enough. We're not talking about changeability but if you want average.
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I truly don't get why preferring a certain size & going after it is bad.
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Wanting a virgin is not the same as wanting a bigger penis wanting a tighter vagina is the same. 30% of women are naturally loose and with the rise of teens using dildos/fingering a girl can be a virgin and not be tight.
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The guys who say it usually aren't virgins themselves they have a moral standard for sex but have moral conviction and want to excuse their behavior on I'm a guy. A preference for pleasure and a preference for a moral standard you can't uphold is not the same. When morals come into play it's different.
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8 31Thankfully I'm larger than average and never get complaints. I only care about my own.
you sound like an ass hole
I'm not upset just sad cause I can't change it. I'm 5.5' so pretty small and if I can't pleasure girls which I know is hard to do with my size I just feel bad cause I know I will never have a truly satisfied women so how in good conscience could I ever want a girl I love to stay with me.
Egh this is a bit extremist thinking in my opinion to claim you know you'll never have a truly satisfied gal. Toss up on if it'll lessen your thinking but possibly even if you were bigger masturbation would result in a truly satisfied gal than sex would. So perhaps transition from it's my d*ck to it's just how sex is. Though at least you're not upset over gals having preferences and having preferences that exclude you. It appears you're in the rare minority of guys.
To be honest my penis is only one of many flaws that's why I'm staying away from women completely because it would be unfair to them otherwise. As far as sex goes I guess you're right you can meet a girl's needs in so many ways and I tried that with love and foreplay, kissing, cuddling but in the end if your penis is too small most women don't feel like they're with a real man and they get really turned off. And that's OK they can't control what they like
Yeah it really appears you're a rare minority guy to acknowledge you have a flaw much less many flaws. Most guys it seems think they're only possible flaw is being too nice and that gals are such (insert negative) to see how great he is. If you were having sex with them and they didn't orgasm from it then perhaps it's not that they don't feel like they're with a real man and they get really turned off. It could be that they were bitter, resentful, angry at not getting an orgasm from the sex while you most likely did. Though that may be a wash as you state you're staying away from gals.
Some guys get mad or upset about you wanting a larger endowment for the same reasons you get pissed when men state that your boobs are too small or too big or too saggy. To a point size might matter, but in the great scheme of things, it is about the 'feelings' the 'emotions' and the orgasms. At 5.5" I have been told it is shorter or thinner then the girl would prefer - but almost without exception I get repeat performances. Why? Because I make sure they are well past the second or third orgasm before I truly get down to business. Having a smaller sized manhood is not all THAT bad, I learned how to master different positions, how to use my mouth, fingers and toys. That and well sexually speaking, nothing is off limits with me beside scat and blood.
Egh no guy that has seen me have stated such things nor have made any inclinations to. Either way comparing boob size to d*ck size seems to be an emotional ploy rather than using logic. D*ck size is comparable to vagina size nor boob size as the boobs are not involved in the sexual act nor do their size generally affect achieving sexual satisfaction/gratification for the other party.
It is about the orgasms to me and that you learned to master positions, use your mouth, fingers, and toys suggest when it comes to orgasms that guys likely have to make up for their d*ck size and that you make sure they have orgasms before you "truly get down to business" suggest that you're compensating for that they likely won't orgasm when you do. and thinner is all those things show for in other words you make up for you shortcomings as you seem to have noted that the gal may be shortchang
I never said it was said about you. You are wrong about the comparrisons since they affect you on a mental level. If you have boobs that dangle, I guarantee they will not help me get hard or find you attractive. Again, that is not "you" personally. Tittie f***ing is a sexual act that can get one to achieve sexual gratification. What else you got, you have not made a good rebuttle yet...
I'm not wrong about the comparisons as a d*ck is more comparable to a vagina than to boobs. By sexual act I mean actual penetration so tittie f*cking is irrelevant. Do tell how is it not a good rebuttal that all of your learning suggests compensating for a deficiency? As well as you ensuring they are have orgasms before you "truly get down to business" implies that average and below d*cks are basically useless for female orgasms as you seem to have to make sure she orgasms before you enter?
Well this will be my last comment to you. Now think real hard. If a penis that is average or less is (in your words) "useless" then tell me how I can get my wife off by hitting her G-Spot which is only about 2" or 2.5" inside the vagina? Do I have to make sure that she orgasms first? No, I could always do my thing and not worry about her pleasure like so many other men. If comparing penis endowment and breast endowment is so off, why then do so many females wear padded bras to look bigger?
Telling how you evade answering how it isn't a good rebuttal that you learning all that and ensuring she orgasms before you "truly gets down to business" indicates compensation.
Likely you can achieve this as you learned to master different positions to compensate for your size and she's post-orgasmic thus more susceptible to orgasm. Gals wearing padded bras to look bigger doesn't mean d*ck and boob size is comparable since it's the d*ck and vagina that are involved in penetration and it's their size that is generally related to achieving orgasm for the other party. As well as you're overlooking that gals concern themselves with their vagina size ala kegels/surgery.
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This is a great question.
I am cool with it with my 8 inch thick penis as long as I am allowed to only date very skinny women with tight vaginas!
I am above average, so I only accept above average.
I have never experienced a girl thinking I am too small, so I don't know what that would feel like.
But if women are doing it, then yes it is a little bad because we REALLY can't do anything about our size!
Surgery adds like one inch at the most! It does not add girth.
Women can do exercises to help their vaginas stay tight! They have much more control then guys have.
"I am above average, so I only accept above average." Logic fallacy there as an above average vagina would be a larger than average vagina. I think what you mean is you're above average so you only accept what you consider above average aka tight being above average.
As for it's a little bad bit there's loads of factors that people judge others by that they ca't change such as women can't change their age though plenty of men judge on that. I'm not really seeing the whole point of the exercises statement as guys can also get surgery. Was it that since women can be tighter so if they have a preference for above average don't indulge it. Then I guess a guy can be told you can imagine a younger gal so don't pursue one would be fitting.
QA to your first comment, that is what I meant! Above average in my opinion. Guys can get a very painful surgery that adds UP TO one inch. It does not add girth. So if a guy is like 5-6 inches...it won't make him 9... Women can do exercises while just sitting at work or at school. Women can do something easy and safe to make themselves tighter. These are COMPLETELY unrelated! I don't understand "was it that since a woman can be tighter" statement at all.
It's not unrelated as you stated women can do exercises thus they have much more control than guys have while guys also have control they can get surgery. My statement was asking if are you trying to say that since women can do exercises to be tighter they should do the give him a chance bs. If you are then it would fit that a guy can be told you can imagine a attractive gal so go pursue the gals you find unattractive.
That statement still makes no sense to me... Can you check the grammer and get back to me? There are either wrong words, missing commas or run on sentences! I really want to know what you mean since that seems to be a main point in your argument. Also, penis enlargement apparently costs around 7000-1000 dollars. That is the same as a breast job. So does every guy with a penis enlargement surgery deserve a women with a breast augmentation surgery? Do you have a breast augmentation?
I was asking if are you trying to suggest that since women can do exercises to be tighter they should negate d*ck size preferences if they have them and give guys outside of their preference a chance. If you are then it would be fitting to say that since guys can close their eyes and imagine attractiveness they should negate attraction preferences if they have them and pursue gals they find unattractive.
"Also, penis enlargement apparently costs around 7000-1000 dollars. That is the same as a breast job. So does every guy with a penis enlargement surgery deserve a women with a breast augmentation surgery? Do you have a breast augmentation?" WTCupcake? How did you pull this one out? The penis enlargement was in reference to guys can control their genital size as well since you stated women can do exercises to control their size.
haha...your answer is funny. Good point! We should just close our eyes and put our penis in. And then imagine someone really hot! Guys can only get surgery to make their penis larger. Women can do exercises. I am pretty sure if guys could do exercises, there would be gym programs just for that! So if breast augmentation goes along with penis enlargement, since I am already large, can I just score a girl with fake t*ts? Problem is, I don't really advertise my size!
So what if guys can only get surgery? The point is they still have an option to control their size just as women do. What is the point of saying that guys can only get surgery but women can exercise? Are you trying to imply that women should negate their preferences for attraction?
"So if breast augmentation goes along with penis enlargement, since I am already large, can I just score a girl with fake t*ts?" I didn't say breast augmentation goes along with penis enlargement you pulled that out of wherever as you seem to dislike being told that just as gals can do exercises to control their size guys can get surgery to control their size. To me as long as it's not illegal or hurt animals/children you can want what you want.
No matter who you talk to. Girls exercising to be tighter is in no way equal to guys doing surgery. It is wrong for two main reasons. 1. It is extremely expensive and painful for a guy to do the surgery. 2. The surgery does not increase the amount that the penis is desired nearly as much as a girl doing the exercising increased her vagina's desirability. One other thing to note is that women have no idea how big a guy is until his pants are off. This also makes the breast augmentation uneven
Probably because 70% of the men on this planet fall within 5-6 inches and women saying they enjoy anything bigger than that is pretty unrealistic.
lmfao @ "unrealistic". Are you aware that just because the average is that size doesn't mean most women enjoy a guy that size. So if some women don't enjoy small/average size it's pretty realistic to say they enjoy bigger. In America 60% of people are overweight/obese so does this mean overall guys saying they enjoy dating or are dating a healthy weight much less thin girl is pretty unrealistic. What's only unrealistic is how many girls know their guys size. But yeah nice "logic" .
I don't think you understand anything I just said. "Why do some guys with average penises get so upset if a girl says she prefers a larger penis?" If a man or woman prefer someone that isn't fat (something that can be changed easily) that makes sense. If a girl only likes big penis (something that can't be changed, and something that's rare), then you're upsetting the large majority of men in the entire world. Weight does not = penis size, they hold no similarity.
What you're basically saying is a man with a normal penis (most men in the world) isn't good enough for you and that a normal sized penis can't please you. So who's problem is that? The man for having a normal penis or you for having a craving for horse cock?
I understood exactly what you were saying. That it is pretty unrealistic to for a woman to say that they enjoy bigger than average since average is the majority. Weight does hold similarity to your answer. Overweight/obese is the average in America guys saying they enjoy dating or are dating a healthy weight much less thin girl is pretty unrealistic. Just because it is average doesn't mean it's most liked. It just means it's most common.
I even stated first off that just because average is the most common size doesn't mean it gives pleasure to most women. "Are you aware that just because the average is that size doesn't mean most women enjoy a guy that size." Just check any penis preference chart. As for who's problem. It's no one's problem. Not mine since finding a guy bigger than average isn't that hard. Not his since there are other girls who enjoy average.
So how soon into things do you ask to see his package? Seems like it'd be a big waste of time to date a guy for awhile only to find out he doesn't measure up, no?
You seem to see the logic no point in wasting time. Girls should be able to ask upfront but guys tend to lie so it's better if a girl measures him when putting on the condom. As for how soon could be whenever she depends to use a bj as a diverse to measuring him. Of course if he doesn't measure up just forget about the bj.
So how soon do you try to blow him? Do you just dive under the table at Starbucks during your first coffee?
lol if a girl wanted to get that quick of a measurement she'd testdrive by getting him hard. Plus the bj is just an excuse to measure. It doesn't have to happen at all just change your mind.
I don't think you're understanding my question. How soon do YOU (not "a girl") get in there and get a view of hard c0ck?
If you don't mind my asking, that is.
lol I don't engage in that behavior I advise
What do you mean you don't engage in that behavior? You don't get any d!ck? Why not?
Maybe they feel offended that their average 6.5 incher can't satisfy a big sloppy hole like yours. And your trying to turn it around saying the average guy isn't good enough when in reality it's the mere fact the the average d*** can't satisfy a big hole like yours. Idk, just a thought.
Uh whoa dude no. I'm of the 10% that means I'm tight. When did I put average isn't good enough? Bitter much?
You didn't put average isn't good enough. Your exact words were ''Average is not always good enough'' ''Always'' being the word that makes the difference.
Prefer it and go after it that is fine, but don't waste time talking to a guy and stringing him along if he doesn't meet your criteria. A guy doesn't want to waste his time with a girl like this, time is money.
This wasn't about wasting a guy's time but hostile responses to a preference. Pretty sure a girl doesn't want to waste her time on a guy that doesn't measure up, time is money and fleeting.
well they're hostile because they don't understand that you are basically part of %10 of women who are so shallow as to not be happy with average lol yes most guys have preferences too but they are fine with an average girl, proof is all around
Read 2. Average isn't always good enough. Highly doubt American guys are happy with the average girl (overweight or obese)
you can't compare those two, if I was a girl and fat and guys wanted skinny girls I could exercise and diet and lose the weight and not be average anymore guys can't do that for their junk
We're not talking about changeability but if you want average. Whether you change the trait doesn't make a difference in having a preference for the trait.
ugh you don't get it its your CHOICE to be an average weight,intelligence, etc. but its not your CHOICE to be an average height, p size etc. people have a choice to be average weight which in turn means they get a choice to be more of someones preference its not the same with penis size so stop comparing them if you don't understand then don't bother replying because your hopelessly ignorant -_-
I understand it's a choice. But the only true difference since both are still preferences is that one can change it. Whether you can change it doesn't make it any better/worse for preferring it.
yes it does lol, for one your judging someone on something they can change, and the other on something they can't change im done arguing because you're too ignorant
Changeability doesn't matter not liking them because of the preference is the matter. Changeability only matters to the person with the trait deemed unattractive.
k whatever I'm done, please for your own sake follow your preference of big penis and leave the average guys for normal girls
You're quite insulting. Normal girls?
yup, a lot of girls are just fine with average penis size and don't really care about it as long as the guy knows what to do the minority are the ones that won't date a guy with an average size, not insulting, its the truth babe
It's insulting to suggest a person is abnormal based on their preference unless that preference is rape/non consensual torture/children. A lot of girls also settle for bad sex. Fake orgasms? Anyway my point was that changeability doesn't change the fact that a preference is a preference. You're still judging them. Whether they can change it or not you're still judging.
ask a question on here to see how many girls would not sleep with an average guy, look at your answers. you are the minority which is fine, just don't expect any sympathy
just don't expect any sympathy For what? Going after what I like? I don't tell guys don't expect my sympathy ifthey want a specific haiir/eye color, bust size, or dress size. Why would expect sympathy for going after what I like. I've seen the penis questions most girls did say above average 6+ that's why I asked this question. There was so much hostility and meanness.
would you date an average guy? cuz most girls would and they wouldn't mind (infact incase you are too stupid to know what average means, most girls currently ARE dating average)
you are too stupid there goes those insults average is 5.5 inches and 6.2 inches. The girls wanted above six inches. That's not average.
lol OK if your so sure make a question asking if girls would date or sleep with an average penis and look at the results
there are already tons of questions like that. either they prefer bigger, prefer average, or wouldn't mind average but prefer bigger. of course there are the 2 - 3 who like below average. I'm trying to understand why there is so much hostility to the ones that actively go for bigger guys. Their comments were much meaner than the ones who preferred bigger but didn't mind average. I didn't say a girl wouldn't sleep with average but why be so hostile to one that goes for bigger?
You don't see me insulting average guys and neither were the girls who said they preferred bigger.
insecurity I guess, that's on the guys part I don't worry about it much because I wouldn't want anything to do with a girl who prefers bigger anyway haha
I don't worry about it much because I wouldn't want anything to do with a girl who prefers bigger anyway haha So why get so mad that a girl has a preference when you do too? Guys don't want it loose and 30% of women are born naturally loose.
im not saying that because of looseness, I'm saying it because of attitude most girls who prefer bigger are obnoxious and I wouldn't want to be associated with them you and all the other size queens can chase your big d***s I don't mind or care lol dont reply anymore please, this is long enough -_-
LOL size queens you seem to have the attitude /end
Because they don't like the idea that someone out there can please their woman better than they can. They know that a bigger penis can give the kind of pleasure that no amount of caressing, oral, fingers, toys or love can give and they can't stand it. And its NOT like t*ts which can be purchased if they are not big enough and t*ts don't correlate to sexual pleasure the way penis size does so its really not the same AT ALL. Face it the guys with big penises that work properly are gods gift to women's vaginas. They might be assholes or whatever in all other areas but the fact is they can give women more pleasure in vagina than the average guys out there.
Seriously that's why? If she's with them what's the big deal of someone being able to please her better?
Wow! Just Wow! Seriously you don't get this? Just because she's into him now doesn't mean that she will always be into him you know...maybe she'll cheat because she wants that old thing back. Maybe she looks down on him or at least looks at him like less of a man because of it. I may be subconscous but women know d*** size and sexual prowess is a relevant part of "manliness". Maybe he doesn't want her fantasizing about what she used to have or thinking about another guy as better in this department. Geez!
Getting paranoid over things that she may or may not be feeling isn't healthy.
Neither is denying the truth.
She may get more pleasure but she is happy with the guy she's with. Doesn't that matter?
yes that matters! More pleasure but settles for less pleasure if the guy is nicer in totality. Yes it matters because men don't want to be settled for and knowing that she is settling for less but longs for a guy that can better sex her sucks. But I like your response. I can tell you're very mature and intelligent.
If she got more pleasure I'd probably just let her f*** a stud on occasion to get that feeling and come back to me afterward for my companionship and loving.
No if he does another guy even just for pleasure than she's clearly stating you are not enough. It should not be tolerated.
don't you think there's more to life (and a relationship) than d*** size? just sayin'.
How does that answer the question?
why is this even a question? a woman should be able to look past the size of a man's shlong. its not like any of us can help it.
The question is why are guys so hostile about preference?
what do you mean? in terms of what we like with women?
In what women prefer in penis size.
im not, because I'm a virgin waiting for the right girl. so if she feels I'm for some reason not packing enough heat down there, I will have already built feelings and a commited relationship with her. if she leaves after that, well then that's messed up and not my problem. that's all I'm trying to say. if the size of a guy's penis is too small for a girl to even be with him, that's messed up. what about who he is as a person? what he can bring to the table? you act as if penis is everything.
if the size of a guy's penis is too small for a girl to even be with him, that's messed up Not any different than not liking a person's annoying habits, height, weight, breath. , I will have already built feelings and a commited relationship with her That sounds like attachment issues. Don't get caught up in one person- everyone is replaceable & expendable.
ohh so you're afraid of real love I see... OK then. besides if you aren't open to love you'll never find it. if someone is just "expendable" to you, I doubt you'll ever truly be happy.
afraid of real love parental love is usually the only real love (parents who kill/hurt their kids make it usually) I doubt you'll ever truly be happy. I'm quite happy indeed. But seriously don't get care about a person until you truly know them and even then remember they are just an accessory not the outfit.
ok well I realize that, but I still would rather find someone that I love with my whole heart and would never want to leave/lose. someone like that, yes would be very painful to lose them, I've experienced it before, but I'm still alive. and with holding on sex is a smart thing. too many people give it out casually anymore. its sad really. I don't understand. I personally would never "stick it in" a girl I didn't already love. anyone else just seems gross to me.
and you may be happy for now. but what about the long-term when "sir big-d***" dumps you because he gets sick of you, because after all, you're just "expendable". you're just like him. and you'll probably end up thinking he's an idiot. :O now I realize why guys like me don't get girls, because we're not easy to be with, and we're not easy to just pack up and leave from, because we actually have love to offer!
why would I be sadden by an expendable guy? guys like you don't get girls because it's not worth the effort to show them that their love is just attraction.
uhh what?
Most guys confuse I like her personality + I like how she makes me feel + I want sex with love when really it's just basic attraction.
well if you're actually attracted to someone, as opposed to just thinking they're attractive, then that's something called having feelings for someone, which in my book is approaching emotions of like/love. not a bad thing. ;P i actually like the thought of finding a great love with someone. not just whoring around at my own will thinking I'm the best thing since sliced bread.
You're an odd breed of male. Hope you find your great love.
i'd like to think I'm one of the few "real" men left in this world with a sense of self-worth and respect for others and that actually wants to treat a woman right. and thanks, I hope I do too... its not my problem that women repeated pursue jerks that have no self-respecting bone in their body or respect for women.
*repeatedly. my bad.
Exactly don't excuse bad or stupid behavior. A mistake is only a mistake if you learn from it. Don't hope you most likely will just keep searching. My mindset on people and view of the world is right for me not everyone.
i suppose the same could be said for my viewpoints as well...
...i'll admit, its not easy being me.
Aww hug. You'll get your great love you're probably still 14/16 with these views.
lol try early 20s
I agree, to a certain extent. People can't choose what they prefer, and some people set higher standards for what they like and don't like.
insecure about themselves
But why respond with hostility instead of self love (not that kind)?
"But why respond with hostility instead of self love (not that kind)? " because instead we tend to self hate. why should we love ourselves when as you have said in other comments average is useless. well so if im useless why should i love myself. by your logic could i dump a bitch iv dated for 3 weeks if i find out she's loose. should someone cheat on me if she doesn't like my size. frankly after reading all of your comments it seems that i just hate myself more.