Are women ungrateful?

The whole civilization is created by men. We have comfort, health care, a roof over our head, eletricity all because of men. Do we ever thank men for offering so much? Do we ever show gratitude for just standing there looking pretty in a corner since the dawn of time, while they sweat blood over their foreheads to build the freaking human civilization? Or we are spoilt and take everything for granted? If men vanished all techinicians, builders, miners, contruction workers would dissapear. the civilization would fall into smithereens. we would become animals again.
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even when my father brought our "daily bread" home, i never ever bothered to think deeply what he goes through. never thanked him for the most basic things and always took them/him for granted. he left us soon so i lose no chance to thank my husband now for what he offers. something as simple as thank you for your hard work honey. nothing should be taken for granted.
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To clarify my position. I'm talking about good, honest, contributing men. Not alcoholics, wifebeaters, lazy procrastinators and opportunists... .
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  • I agree with some of it, we'll most of it, and am very thankful for a woman that makes so much effort and is even willing to fight for or stand up for men. But in the end, 8 don't really think that you will succeed in this age to do so, reason I have is because there are obnoxious boys, they tend to prove you wrong just by 5hinking... Now they still have to talk... My point is, I personally believe that men were selfish and egotistic in the past, that is the only reason why only men were allowed to do anything which included controlling women. If it weren't for that, women would probably have contributed to much greater lengths, which would probably have included physically building and planning of towns. Society today would also have been much different, women would have been expected to pull their weight in a physical wok environment is what I can Imagine. Men would literally only be able to carry more weight at a time than women in general, it's a biological physical trait, to make up for that, only women can give birth, which is why 8 would rather carry more than go through the pain.

    That being said, it's men's self doing to have built and planned most structures because we suppressed women. It's our own fault if we don't expect women to carry stones, let me also mention, here where I live, women carry more weight than man for a longer period of time. They put massive amounts of weight on their head and carry it far distances, men would want to carry the weight in their arms and would probably be able to lift more weight, but wouldn't be as effective as the women to move the weight such distances. Unless they copy. What a women invented. In a physical environment.

    So the prove is there, woman are also capable and will probably have contributed much more if only men had allowed them. No matter if we took long to introduce the idea, that doesn't even make any difference, the point is stil that me being stronger physically brought it on ourselves to rule the world.

    But thank you for your thought, it really is a kind gesture, and I wish more men would also appreciate what the women does for us, if more people were like you, the world would be so much better. Almost like heaven on earth. Very close.

    • Oh and i am a Dom so I'm not feminine, I'm just trying to go through life logically and being kind. Except for ass holes, male or female... Go out of my way to irritate them. They deserve it hahaha.

  • Standing there and looking pretty? Is that how you see the role of women throughout human history? Who gave birth to, and nurtured and educated, all the men who you cite as having done all these great things? What about the contribution of women to medicine? What about female monarchs?

    Are you not grateful for the actions of women in the past that have allowed you to be able to have this opinion on this forum at this time? Are you going to say thank your for that? Or for your right to vote? Or for your right to work? Go on, say thank you to your fellow women.

    • thats matriarchical bullshit thinking. i dont think we should be celebrated for something natural as childbirth and nurturing. its not an achievement.

    • I mentioned more than just childbirth and nurturing. What about the pioneering work on womens' rights that allow you to voice your opinion here instead of being locked in the kitchen? No gratitude for that? Or does it not suit your agenda?

    • a man (Christ) said 2 millenias ago that we are equal. if society took 2000 years to implement it its not just men's fault or women's achievement.

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  • Well, I guess both, men and women needs to be thanked. It's not that women are ungrateful because, women over the years... Decades have been kept under shield... They were tortured and were submissive ones. The men ruled the world. Women had no say. So now when women got rights, obviously more focus is on women... Hence we see, "women empowerment", "women..." etc. This said, men need to be applauded too. I don't really like that last sentence of yours... the world is a male dominated society but it's slowly changing. You can't really say that, "we would become animals again". It just doesn't sound and feel good. We aren't ungrateful. Because we ourselves got our rights after a long long time. We are in the phase enjoying those rights. So calling us, "ungrateful" isn't really wise. Or then, think the other way... Were men called, "ungrateful" when women had no say whatsoever? Women fed men... Yet women were treated pathetically. Men weren't called, "ungrateful" then. So why should women be called, "ungrateful" now----when men don't even suffer 1/10 the of what Women did since years back...

    • in what feminist brochure did you read this nonsense? women suffered incredibly? they had no saying? Shall i remind you how many empresses and queens existed? shall i remind you who were the real heads of the household? shall i remind you priviledged women like etairai in ancient greece existed in most soxieties? as for the animals sentence. well just becaues you dont feel good about it , it doesn't make it less true.

    • U have no idea about what happened in other countries rather than the west. East Asia, South East Asia, Africa had women suffer incredibly. Why don't you just check out the history. There might have been many Queens in West... But no women the places I have told, had say. What by the way, makes u think that if men didn't exist, we would become animals?

  • Considering that during the period of time when men made all these great advancements, women had no rights, no options, and no choice to help society in the same ways even if they wanted to, no. I don't see any reason to thank men for being the ones to do those things. If there was more gender equality during that era, women would have contributed to society in the same ways. And there were some women who DID contribute greatly to science and technology although it wasn't as common. Plus, while men were off screwing in light bulbs, women were cooking, cleaning, and going through childbirth, so I'm going to have to call it a draw.

    • hello women are the one's that wanted it to be this way

    • @CancerianMan81 What way?

    • so us men have always gave in to you and I'm going to tell you something if you women don't stop fighting with us men you're not going to have us men giving in to you anymore

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  • I wholeheartedly disagree. Civilization was built by both men and women but our perceptions of history have been kinda screwed with. A lot of historical research is from a time where men were thought to be strong, whereas women were though weak. Modern research actually suggests that contrary to what we've been taught, women did participate in hard physical labor and warfare and findings were misinterpreted because nobody even considered that it could've been a woman.

    • you're stuck inside a bubble to think that

    • and anyway you're comment doesn't align with what she is asking

    • @CancerianMan81 no, really, it's a topic historians have been fighting over for years. I know that saying "all women were warriors" isn't true, most of them weren't, even though the number may be larger than we initially thought. But women have played important roles in building a civilization in numerous ways, and saying that men built it alone is an kind of an insult to all women who took part in the process.

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  • Yes it is true, we have become incredibly selfish and naive

    • become?

    • Well before and during the 50s women did everything for their man. Clean, cook, look after the children ( joint effort; mostly women though) made themselves look pretty for them. Just things that makes a mans life a lot less stressful, as he's the breadwinner, provides and ultimately protects. It's only natural and fair. Since the 60s all we've done is put men down, and shame them them for doing or acting like men or young boys. Then you have women who laugh at men if they were to get raped, commit suicide or have prostate cancer. It's disgusting.

    • wow i'm surpised you think like that. you parents did some good parenting with you girl... .

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  • As a man I think so I think that women are amazing. As a man I think that women are a gift to us men. Women have qualities that men don't have and vice versa. The two supplement each other very well. Woman's task is to create a family and make sure that everything is fine in the family (also a bit a man task). A man is more aggressive, and are made to lead the world. It is not okay to say its men's fault that world is bad, or in decay. A woman is very strong in her expertise, as is man in his. A woman has an task in the world, as man.

    • saying women are magical just by standing there is insulting. i dont like this kind of gratitude. we should be appreciated for a surplus of offering, like men offer, not for the basic stuff our genetics gave us.

    • I appreciate your gratitude towards men. But this doesn't mean the opposite sex should act like odd man out of this. And what i said is not magical. I have logical explanation to this. You can PM me anytime if you want to have concrete discussion over this issue.

  • Why are you a female anon when you're obviously a man?

    • its sad how its unfathomable a woman can have this revelation. its shows how hardwired it is in men's brains to take women's ungratefulness for granted... .

  • Without woman giving birth - human beings WOULD NOT EXIST.

    • Amen to this

  • during world war 2... the only reason Amarica stayed alive and running was because women took all then mens jobs in the mills and factories.

    • in tough times we might help but in general its men that occupy these jobs. its men that are the workers of hand labour. its men who are the technicians and pillars of society.

    • your making america sound like a patriarch

  • I think it's true for both sides. Truth is, we need each other.

  • Please hand over your vagina, we're revoking your woman card. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    • haha really and who made you the femininity police? it seems you have truth intolerance if my question offended you so much. and if you think its your vagina that makes you a woman you dont deserve being one yourself. so are amputated women for example less womanly?

    • Amputated vaginas? No I don't think a vagina is required to make you a woman, it's a joke not a dick, no need to take it so hard.

    • And I'm totally aware you're a guy trolling by the way. Nice try.

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  • Uh, without women no one would have been born.

    • And people work and build because they have to, it's not truly a choice. Are you really sure dad left or did mom kick him out... the latter is what usually happens.

    • he passed away.

    • The hubby or dad? It sounds like both from the way you described. Still... it doesn't sound like you took anyone for granted at all. People work because they have to so... it's hard single or with family.

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  • Denying the fact that men build civilization is ignorant. Men went to wars just so that their women and children could be safe and have a good life. They didn't find just to kill, they fought to build a better life. Women back then knew that and they appreciated it. It's only nowadays when women (not all) have gotten together to bash men and ignore the facts that almost everything they have is because of men, and whether they like it or not, the ability to vote is because of men, because men were the ones who allowed women to vote. They should have been able to vote from the beginning, but still, without men, they still wouldn't be able to vote.
    Same thing happens with people bashing whites, when they live so good thanks to white men.
    The ungratefulness in this current generations is amazing. Imagine if your parents worked their asses off to provide you with food, shelter, clothes, entertainment... but you hate them because they didn't allow you to go to parties when you were 15.

    • you reminded me of that scene in "300" where Leonidas goes to war and his wife goes to salute him and wish him good luck. ancient and rural woman i believe indeed where more grateful. its the modern feminist craze that leveled down all values... .

    • Yep, 'cause back in the day they knew what their man was doing. And men appreciated their efforts at home. But now they've been taught to hate men, and that that empowers them. Ignoring history empowers them... :/

  • From the viewpoint of a man, I will say that I believe that a lot of the things that men created were for a variety of reasons including their own self-interests, so they were not doing it for thanks. You are more than welcome to say thank you, but many of the men who created our civilization are long dead, but you can thank men today for their individual contributions. I honestly think that in our society, men who fought in wars have never received truly enough thanks for their service throughout the years. Women are also in need of thanking as well since they raise our children, be men's better halves, and have contributed many things to society as well. I work hard for my family, and I do not need a thank you, all I need is to make sure that they are taken care of. My ex was very ungrateful though, she would be mean to me after I bent over backwards for her, and that didn't help the situation.

  • Yes, women in a general sense are ungrateful moreso than men in my opinion.

  • Honestly yes

  • My ex wife most certainly was , after carrying her fat , lazy arse for years , so got rid last year & never looked back. It is easier being a FT working single dad , she was a burden !!

  • how is the whole civilisation created by men when without women there is no man?

    • and without men there are no women. thats basic biology. we are not talking biology here.

  • Most of them are like Stalin... not the mass murdering part.
    The part that quoted "Gratitude is a disease of dogs."

  • yes women are ungrateful... but such is life... they've learned it's easier to get what they want by getting all dolled up.. If the guy fails to meet her wants there's always other richer men. tsktsktsk!!!

    if men vanished necessity would bring the rise of women to fill in the blanks needed for thme to survive..

  • yes they are cause they don't appreciate anything

    • @samhradh_leannan those times are coming to a close because you women don't want to give to us what we want cause women's privilege card is going to be revoked

    • then if you don't want to @samhradh_leannan then there ain't no man that's going to be with you cause no man is going to put up with a woman who's on her high horse

    • @Asker then @samhradh_leannan wouldn't have blocked me if she isn't in a war with men

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  • Yeah

  • How I love sexist posts.
    Kindly fuck off. >.>

  • Yes the majority of women are ungrateful. Especially western white women.
    There are many who get that society has become what it is because of men, but there is a majority that are simply to caught up acting like victims to give men credit for the back breaking work they do, for basically putting their lives at risk just to make women's lives easier, etc.
    They simply reduce the entire concept to "without women there wouldn't be men." because they need to somehow take credit and marginalize all the major accomplishments of man because they simply can not allow their ego to accept how much men do for women.

    It's the spoiled brat mentality which is causing men to start telling women, fuck it.. we don't need your shit. And when they do again the ego won't let them accept it and they shame men for not putting up with their shit.

    • i honestly believe women would not do and want to do what men did, even if they were given the chance. and they WERE given in my opinion. no matter what feminists say. we just liked the ease of house chores more i guess.

    • Actually that is been proven a few times. When forced to be in the draft, women got upset because it was unfair to be expected to die like men. When given bonuses to entice women to take STEM studies, most women still don't want to be in STEM fields. Feminist never fight for equality in employment for coal miners, oil riggers, sewer workers, or other awful jobs... just the cushy ones. Because women don't want the shit hard jobs.

  • A woman's natural state is submission to her man. If she doesn't submit to you then she doesn't respect you. These "dominant" woman find themselves single aged 30 and hit the wall as they find a woman's most desirable is between 15-29 and that because they refused to submit to a man's will they will be forever "strong independent women who don't need no man" as no man desires them anymore for anything other than a quick pump and dump.

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