Genesis 38 9-10:
"He spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death."
Good luck sleeping soundly boys!
Real obsession is religionists with sex and genitalia. Get a hobby.
Your interpretation of this parable is about as accurate as when the news says "this man was tackled to the ground by 5 police officers for jaywalking" because he was in the middle of the street when it happened, and the news didn't bother giving the key context that he'd robbed a bank and killed 7 people in the process.
You missed the key information completely.
The law was that if your brother died, you (Onan in this case) had to take your brother's wife as a 2nd wife, and protect and provide for her just as you do for your first wife, and to give her children, so that her line will continue and she will have children to take care of her in old age. But this also means that, under those old laws, her oldest son would receive an inheritance, to be able to maintain the family, and this might require that your existing eldest son gets less than he would have before.
Onan intentionally defied the law because he didn't want to split his son's inheritance, and thus did not give his brother's wife (now his 2nd wife) children. THAT was the law that was broken. It has nothing at all to do with masturbation - the problem was Onan's greed and his favoring his own son.
The real bottom line is that Onan was put to death not for 'spilling his seed upon the ground' in masturbation. It was because he refused to impregnate his dead brother's widow and raise a child in the name of his dead brother, as prescribed my Mosaic Law.
So Onan was killed not for masturbating, but for the criminal act of coitus interruptus to prevent the legal obligation to provide an heir to his dead brother.
Having just read the context of the story and it's outcome, I think the story would make one heck of a porno flick.
What a complete and utter load of fucking Bollox.
So it doesn’t say that?
So what doesn't say that?
Bagavavida. WHAT THE FUCK you think this page is talking about?
Yes, but the bible is full of made up bullshit.
That sounds familiar.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!Philippines believes this , although this goes much further than simply masturbation , we are talking about poor use of the seed , condoms , birth control , and all that goes with it , including vasectomy..
I'm not religious , but there are parts of this that can be fun :)
Looks like you didn't bother reading the whole story. Unsurprisingly.
Does the whole story matter? God said spilling seed is horrific and angers him.
Agreed @LazerBeam
Don't know and don't care.
Bible is about as useful as a rotary dial phone today.
I can use the phone to knock out a proselytizer.
You just proved my point.
You do know that part of the Bible is speaking of Onan that was having sex with his brothers wife and he would spill the semen on the floor right? Judah (Onan's father) commanded Onan to impregnate his brothers wife for his brother and instead he spilled his semen on the ground and this was after his brother was killed, instead of him carrying the duty as a brother to care for his brothers widowed wife, he used her for sex basically which the lord didn't like
You gotta read the before and after not just a verse and make your own assumptions lol
I think it’s obvious your god doesn’t like wasting semen.
And it's obvious you regret this post 😂
For one it doesn’t but all the more reason to get married young and have as much sex as possible the Bible does it say anything about the position or how are you get your rocks off go fuck if your wife wants to dress up as a schoolgirl and gets pregnant what the fuck is wrong with that?
I don’t know what you’re referring to. But according this text I forgot out, God seems to value semen and hates. spilling it.”
There was an instance of a man who had to marry his brother wife because that was the law back then and he would have sex with her and spill his seed on the ground. The idea behind it form a Jewish perspective is it’s not that spilling his seed was a sin it was the fact he didn’t want to get her pregnant and there for denying her truly into his family
I don’t care. God said “spilling seed is bad” and killed the guy.
Onan's story was about disobedience to G0d. G0d, though his blood father, Judah, had commanded Onan to impregnate his deceased brother (Er's) wife Tamar, to give her an heir. Instead, he pulled out and spritzed on the ground whenever he had sex with Tamar because their offspring would not be his. By disobeying G0d, Onan, was put to death by G0d.
This event is neither about masturbation or even about Adultery. It is about disobedience to G0d. And thanks for asking for that clarification. +1.
One more important point is greed. If Onan impregnant his brother's wife, then part of Judah's land will go to the kid. It's greed and dishonor that he was put to death, not masturbation.
@RespectfulGuy Correct and his direct disobedience to G0d.
The passage does not mean what you think it means. Unless you put it in the context of the Babylonian cultural norms, in which a brother was expected to impregnate his brother’s widow if she didn’t have a child so she would have someone to take care of her in old age, you will miss the point.
I guess I'd be dead a long time ago.
My brother's wife isn't a widow. My brother is still alive.
He was punished for disobeying God's command to impregnate the women, not the spilling of seed in and of itself.
Even if it is just mythology, that was a very specific situation in which he was morally obligated, since his deceased brother had no children, to "create" an heir for his brother's share of the estate. It was his disobedient refusal to do so and probably the desire to gain his dead brother's inheritance, not the actual act of "spilling the seed" that resulted in his death in the story. That is why verse 8 and the first part of verse 9 are so important to the context:
8 Then Judah said to Onan, "Lie with your brother's wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother."9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen..."
Yes it’s mythology. But seeing as religion is the only reason behind anti abortion, this line that “god hates spilt seed” seemed relevant. Lol
I oppose government intervention, but if it were the "only reason" SPL would not exist.
https://secularprolife.org/
Unless you're subject to Levirate Law that passage doesn't apply to you. I'm assuming you know what Levirate Law is because you appear to be a biblical scholar.
Sure but I assumed…the entire bible was a how to for Christian’s. That’s how all they’re crazy rules come from and the ones they choose to ignore.
Nah, it's mostly filler.
It was more of a dispute about land than about wasted seed. I don't like the Bible either but you are intentionally misinterpreting this to make Christians look more strange.
Of course context matters. I contexts does not matter, I take it you would have no issue asking people if they support Pride, and if yes tell them they support Straight pride? Because they don't need the context, right? Totally not deciteful way of asking, right?
I don’t see how anything other that “God hates spilt seed and killed over it” as relevant.
Okay, but you should. To use my example again, thats like saying "pride is pride, the rest is irrelevant" after you told them they supports Straight pride after you asked them if they supports pride. Context matters.
And the purpose for asking this question is... what?
Lets see the verse
The passage was that he was directed to cum inside that particular woman and he deliberately disobeyed. By impregnating her he was sharing his estate and wealth with his dead brothers widow. Because women weren’t allowed to own anything in those days. He fucked her and then pulled out and consigned her to poverty and abandoned his sister in law after using her for sex. He was a shithead.
Absolutely taken out of context by many people
Yeah I'm pretty careful with plant seeds
So you say but my carpet is still stained, young man.
Genesis is old testament. The bible is split in two halves, old and new testaments. The new testament explicitly reforms many old testament laws. I'm betting that's one of them. Besides, odern interpretation can apply to the bible, just like the America's living documents, right?
If that’s true, my last boyfriend would have been struck dead. He pulled out every time. Lol
We got really good at that. Now, my wife is on five birth controls and duck walks to the toilet. Lol
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