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17 23There is generally two; Male and Female
Genders are not societal constructs, they are fucking biological. Bathrooms should be labeled XX and XY since those are the chromosomes you were fucking born with
Gender =/= sex
Two that's all
2 male or female simple as it sounds
Lots of different genders
Two.
two. anything else is PC bullshit.
what the fuck is wrong with you, people who don't identify with she/her or he/him do not effect you what so ever. what? do they make you uncomfortable? Do they intimidate you? Do they make you feel lesser because they know who they are and you don't? You can go fuck yourself because I promise you, you are what is wrong with the world. You are why people kill themselves. Who are you trying to impress? Daddy because he never loved you the way you desired, or because he was never proud of you? Well I promise you he will never be proud of you, and if he has ever told you that he was lying.
What are you on about I honestly don’t think anyone have an issue with LGBTQ at all, but the thing is that youse nonces won’t accept that they are only 2 gender aka men and women. Pardon? Why’d they kill themselves like? Gender has nothing to do with that, I think the reason why most of them kill themselves is because of LGBTQ shaming or basically homophobia people shaming on them. You need to accept that there’s only 2 gender ffs also he ain’t lying hon😍😍😍😍
There are only 2 genders, all the other things are nothing but confused males and females. And they kill themselves because they got mental disorders, and you prove that. Your comment truly shows how mentally unstable and weak you are. That's why people like you commit suicide because you are weak and confused.
wow didn't realize this place was transphobic…imma log off now n never come back bc some of y'all are disgusting lol.
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None. It's a social construct
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@Thisperson98 nobody says people are born the wrong gender. Who you are as a person and your gender expression and what role you want to fill in society might not match the gender you were arbitrarily assigned at birth based on what your body looks like (ie. not based on your sex, because if that were so there would be a gender corresponding to Intersex as well as to Male and Female in the mainstream). Gender is a set of expectations you're expected to conform to, a performance you're meant to carry out. And not everyone feels right performing as the gender they're assigned
So if society says I need to do something because I am a male, does that mean I have to do it, no. Who cares if you say no. If it is a social construct why do transgenders try to use the bathroom of the opposite gender?
Yeah, because having a dick or a vagina is a social construct. Sheesh.
cut the SJW crap. so women having boobs is a social construct? #haha
TheRebel69 is describing sex, not gender. Sex is biological, whereas gender is cultural and varies cross culturally; eg. many Native American cultures have always accepted more than 2 genders historically. Gender is to do with behaviour and societal roles, whereas sex is to do with your body. The sex binary is also arbitrary however because for one thing even by biological definitions 4% of people are intersex, and for another the ways of categorizing people into 'male', 'female' and 'intersex'; eg. measurements which determine whether an organ is an 'acceptable' clitoris vs. an 'acceptable' penis- anything in between and the baby is likely to be subjected to unnecessary and dangerous cosmetic surgery which often causes massive health problems; just to make how they look fit with an assigned gender.
It's a socially created normative standard that we segregate what bathrooms people are allowed to use by gender or sex. It's a bizarre thing to do, if you're going to separate them at all it should simply be 'bathroom with urinals' and 'bathroom without urinals' (and both should have baby changing facilities ;) )
Maybe restrooms are separated because men have a penis, while women have a vagina.
no, it's not. it's what your uni professors told you.
Gender is not a specific set of standards, but if it was men would be more inclined to have masculine attributes, females would have more feminine attributes, and then you'd have feminine men or masculine women due to levels of testosterone or estrogen, thus there are still two genders, and they're still male or female.
If two rooms both have toilets you could use in them why should what genitals you have be a relevant factor in deciding one to use? Unisex bathrooms are already a thing in many places so it's not like it's impossible for people to all just use the same facilities
Except that it's fucking weird and only exists because you SJWs kept crying for them. Most women don't want men in their bathrooms and men don't want women in theirs.
Because most public restrooms have more than one toilet...
What have I done? XD
unisex bathrooms many places? in your head, maybe...
You seem to be coming from a very ethnocentric pov tbh. Maybe all 3 of you commenters should get back to me when you've ventured out of the teeny specks on the map you call home lol
So instead of attacking our arguments, you attack us as a person.
Sorry, I forgot I'm not as cultured and intelligent as you oh wise Social Justice Warrior. I'll now check my patriarchal privilege and go back to my clearly insignificant dwelling.
Or not, welcome to 2016, we don't care for your smugness anymore.
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@Thisperson98 That's all they know to do.
Ah, right. We're in the era of 'post truth politics'. God help us all. Excuse me for caring about people's safety and freedom over culturally ingrained oppressive ideologies
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How is it oppressive? It is not like we throw you out for not doing what society think that your gender is suppose to do.
@Thisperson98 It's oppressive because of the surgeries (*cough*child abuse *cough*) to 'correct' intersex people's bodies. Because of the abuse suffered by women, transmen, and non-binary and gender non conforming people. Because of the shaming of femininity. I don't know what you mean by 'throw you out' but I mean trans youth are one of the demographics most likely to be homeless, because of being thrown out by their families. 'Trans panic' (killing a potential romantic or sexual partner because of discovering they're trans) is a legal excuse for murder in many areas of the US, which seems a lot like society blaming trans people for any violence committed against them to me. Similarly the victim blaming of rape survivors based on them not performing their gender correctly; eg. dressing 'wrong', being promiscuous in the past, etc.
I never heard of "trans panic". How is society oppressive to women? How can society be oppressive to people who thinks that they are oppressed because people don't accept them as a special snowflake?
Is it child abuse when a Jewish family circumcises their child? Or is their a double standard because you haven't thought that far ahead? Of course if there is an abnormality with a child's sexual organs the doctor will perform a surgery at bequest of the parents. As for victim blaming of rape victim, that has nothing to do with a person not performing their gender correctly, that has to do with people not understanding that depravity exists in the world and the men and women are both victims of sexual violence, men are more likely to be raped when you include statistics of prison rape. Also just for the record before rape culture comes up we don't live in one. RAINN (Rape and Incest National Network) even discredits that argument by the Left.
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I'd like to hear your reasoning as to why you believe Trans-men and women are more likely to end up homeless before responding to that piece of information. Not discrediting your figures, just want to hear why you think that happens?
@TheRebel69 Source on homeless youth: www.americanprogress.org/.../
As a matter of fact I do oppose circumcising infants because they can't consent and I think it's inhumane. But overall consequences of male circumcision don't compare to the needless suffering caused to intersex infants who undergo cosmetic surgery purely to make their parents and doctors more comfortable assigning them a gender.
'Depravity exists' because people learn that it's acceptable to behave that way and that sexually degrading someone is a way to demonstrate dominance and power. Prison rape is a good example of how masculinity is constructed in such a way that it equates to violence and this type of dominance including over other men. Although it also needs saying that it's very disrespectful of you to try and use male rape survivors to derail an argument about female survivors.
It's very disrespectful of you to assume that I was using male rape survivors to derail an argument by female survivors. But honestly it doesn't surprise me, the Left knows no bounds when it comes to doing the "Twist". I'm just stating facts, did I say anything about female survivors? Nope, just said that males are equally as likely to be raped. You're the one who insists on being on offended and finding some way you can twist what I've said to be so.
@TheRebel69 I mentioned the problem of slut shaming of rape survivors and you immediately jumped to 'men get raped too'. Would be nice if right wingers cared about those men when it wasn't just to shut people up about women suffering rape
We do care about those men. It's you that has created this strawman that the Right doesn't care about rape. You might want to go through any question that has been asked about rape on this site and see my disgust at all forms of sexual abuse. Instead you want to think you know me and what my beliefs are.
My point is that you were inferring that somehow rape is a gender centered thing. It's not. It's depravity, and anyone who blames victims for how they dress or their behavior beforehand is clearly not thinking correctly. However to assume that it's a gender centric problem is just that a problem.
@TheRebel69 very unlike what you're doing to me in calling me an SJW and assuming I support circumcision, right? /:)
I didn't say you support circumcision, I asked if you considered it abuse as well considering it's freedom of religion. And you've proven yourself to be a Social Justice Warrior. I'm a Conservative. It is what it is, but I won't stand here and be accused of being a rape apologist. Did I say you were anything so vitriolic? Unless of course you think being a Social Justice Warrior is as bad as a rape apologist?
@TheRebel69 well not really because then freedom of religion would also allow for FGM or, like, ritual sacrifice. People have rights, ideas don't. So freedom of religion can only apply for practices that don't harm anybody. I think 'Conserving' systems which allow for rape to be so prevalent is pretty despicable
I agree with that. And I was asking your opinion on it and whether or not you believed freedom of religion would allow such things or not based. And I agree as well, that the justice system we have is flawed when it comes to victims of sexual violence, I am in favour of stricter punishments for rape/incest/molestation and putting in place proper counselling and rehabilitation for victims. I just hate that the idea that rape occurs because of masculine aggression, when clearly rape is despised by both sexes, happens to both sexes and is one of the most vile, deprave things a person could suffer.
Just because we don't share the same beliefs doesn't mean that I want people harmed or injured. And I asked for the information on homeless trans because unlike most I do like to look at both sides of things to make a informed choice. Unlike most Conservatives, I am in favor of Planned Parenthood for example because while I don't agree with abortion, I think it's necessary in instances where there's danger to mother or unborn child, instances of rape or incest, and I think providing proper sexual education, contraception and cancer screenings is valuable. At the root of things, I don't think anyone wants people to suffer. But we just have different ideas of what we want from society.
@TheRebel69 It's not because of innate 'masculine aggression', that's not the Left's argument, it's a patriarchal one, eg. 'if she dresses like that men won't be able to control themselves. It's because of people learning that to be masculine is to be violent, that sex is both infinitely desirable and unbearably shameful, that it's possible to 'owe' a partner sex, etc. I don't agree with harsher punishments because I don't think punishment is restorative. I believe the purpose of prison should be to attempt to rehabilitate all inmates, and keep the rest of society safe from dangerous criminals. 'Justice' which goes on principles of revenge won't change criminals for the better, and will damage the people carrying out the punishments by forcing them to behave inhumanely
Well I do because I study sociology, I have to learn about many perspectives, and studies. For example the overwhelming majority that show trans people who are allowed to transition are less likely to commit suicide. Whatever your views on what causes gender variations, on a practical level it clearly makes sense to allow people to live as the gender they want.
Using the "Patriarchy" as a rebuttal to an argument is a flimsy one at best. The only people who claim that men can't control themselves based on a woman's attire are internet trolls and complete and utter morons. Nobody I've ever met justified a rape based on a woman's attire. I believe any self-respecting man that has an ounce of sense in them would see even a naked woman walking down the street and perhaps be aroused by it because that's a natural response to seeing the other sex, but definitely would not rape. I think rapists, are the same people who we find have committed other crimes of perversion or of power, most of whom are sadists, suffer from psychopathy, are anti-social, and normally aren't very powerful and thus act out an idea that they are powerful by controlling another human. It is sickness, and it's caused by something deeper and more psychological than "Patriarchy" otherwise women would never take advantage of men in the same way.
And I agree that allowing people to be free in personal expression and sexual orientation is a basic fundamental right, but it's also my right to believe that there is only two genders. And that if someone is trans-gender, there is still only two genders, they are simply switching from one two the other. A trans-gender male is a male, and trans-gender female is a female. Their personality and expression is then up to them to find out otherwise, and I'm okay with that. But I want to point out, while trans-gender suicide is lower if they're accepted when transitioning, pre-op and post-op trans-gender suicide rates are still multitudes higher than the general population.
@TheRebel69 people can't help being transgender though; and you can explain poor mental health in the trans community via their treatment in society generally. Also whatever you believe about how many genders there are, non binary people exist and deserve respect. I claim patriarchy because this type of victim blaming is systemic. The Slut Walk protests were a reaction to comments made by a police officer to the effect of 'women should expect to be raped if they're dressed like sluts'; which shows this is an attitude which exists within the CJS. Which is clearly extremely harmful to vulnerable survivors going to the police seeking help, and to those considering reporting crimes committed against them who might decide not to for this very reason
And sadists, psychopaths, and anti-social people exist within the ranks of the police force as well as any other job. So that's understandable and doesn't dispute my point that rape apologists and rapists are mentally unstable and sick individuals. And I understand what you're saying about the treatment of trans-people in society, and in fact when I was younger I volunteered to raise money for suicide awareness campaigns because my brother committed suicide due to a drug addiction, I stayed at many shelters in my youth too when my father died and saw myself homeless, so I've seen the effects of society on many people, I'm not denying there's a problem. I'm just expressing my beliefs that there are two genders. If someone wants to claim to be something else, fine but I don't have to acknowledge it, in the meantime I'm not a monster and clearly am not going to attack someone for wanting to be something. I don't agree with a lot of things, like I said, abortion being one of them.
But I also see the necessity of it.
But the police aren't held to the same standard as other people; eg. they don't have to be recorded while they work, like many other people in many other jobs that don't involve carrying lethal weapons around with them do I'm so sorry you had to go through these things.. But I can't understand whatsoever how you can still support capitalism when its interests so clearly don't support those of people facing poverty or illness
That is changing and dash cams and body cameras are becoming more and more prevalent, and police are held to a higher standard than civilians, the same way anyone holding government office or serving in the military is held to a higher standard granted charges can be laid. And thank for that, but I still support capitalism because it is the greatest system in the world. I took advantage of the necessary programs and help that was in place to work my way out of poverty and into the place that I am today and one day if I am successful in my business startup I will look to try and help impoverished families and those who are struggling. I was there once myself. I don't hate these people, I feel sorry for them that they have been left behind but the system still stands as one of the best in terms of the ability to rise out of poverty. Granted those at the top are held to a higher standard and not able to get away with corruption. I don't think we're so different you and I.
I just think we have been educated differently and have different core values but at the end of the day as I said, anyone who has a sense of moral duty doesn't want people to suffer. But that includes listening to people with different opinions like we have done here tonight and agreeing to disagree without intentionally hurting anyone. I hope I will take away something from this, and that you may as well.
@TheRebel69 they're becoming more prevalent because of left wing policies though I believe that you personally will want to help others but I don't think 'moral duty' is enough to rely on when the wage gap is clearly widening as much as it is. The richest in the world do not do their share to aid the poor, they stockpile their wealth and live in extravagance. At best we have Marie Antoinette situations where rich people just don't understand what it's like not to have enjoyed the advantages they have. The super rich often genuinely believe they got where they are through pure hard work rather than benefiting from inheritance and their family being able to pay for better schools and healthcare for them, plus healthier food, living in a 'nicer' neighbourhood, etc. And therefore they don't give a crap about the poor because they believe people are only poor through laziness, which isn't one bit true.
It would be even worse without socialist policies. Workers wouldn't be entitled to a minimum wage, or to unionize to protect their rights. Health and safety regulations would be non existant. There would be no anti discrimination acts, to prevent women from being paid less than men, for example. In the UK we wouldn't have our NHS- just putting it out there now that from a British perspective the US healthcare system is truly dystopian. If we were American, my boyfriend might still not be able to walk because his leg was very badly broken when he was hit by a car at age 12, and his parents would not have been able to pay for the care he needed. Equally my family would likely be bankrupted by my brother's medical needs, and we're pretty well off in comparison. He has chronic kidney disorder and has to use catheters for the rest of his life because his bladder was so badly damaged before his condition was diagnosed, and at some point in the next 2 years he's going to need a transplant.
I'd argue they're becoming prevalent because police overreach affects everyone and no one wants to see people die or be harassed, it isn't necessarily a "Left-wing" idea. As for the wage-gap, when you take into consideration the time women take off work for various reasons, the fields they enter and the amount of hours they work compared to men, they make about the same wage. Not to mention not paying an employee the same wage based on sex, race, etc, is considered workplace discrimination and can be dealt with legally. There are laws in place, but the wage gaps exists because men and women enter different fields and choose different careers. This has been debunked hundreds of times. I agree that there are extraordinarily wealthy people who are greedy and corrupt at the top though, and likewise there are people who rose from nothing and give back as well. That's the thing with capitalism though, anyone can succeed, I had no trust funds, no inheritance, etc. I took on student debt.
I worked hard, entered the trades, came out and met a partner who is in the same field and we're working a business now. I came from absolutely nothing so it isn't impossible. My partner I might add is a woman who has a better position than me, makes more and works more hours. Really inspirational and a fellow lover of capitalism.
@TheRebel69 that's you personally though, not 'anybody'. People are held back by being born poor, and that is fundamentally unfair. Women are more likely to take time off for things like childcare because of gender roles; in countries which offer flexible paid maternity leave, where parents can split time off equally if they want (usually the father takes over after the baby stops breastfeeding), it's far more common for men to take just as much time off. Fields which tend to be more female dominated are less valued, which can be demonstrated cross culturally, for example in cultures where nursing is a predominantly male profession it is better paid than in cultures where it's considered 'women's work'. This can be seen in academics as well; eg. biology started to be considered a 'soft science' when more women started to become biologists, and computer science only began to be taken seriously when men started to become involved, whereas previously it had been predominantly women-led.
I was referencing the wage gap as in between the richest in society and the poorest, or between the richest and everyone else for that matter, really though
There is only one gender, the white oppressive male
lol!
What is sad is that there are people who actually *believe* that. Don't forget the /sarc
lmao
I can't believe people actually took the bait
There's a spectrum for genders
I know right. I am an attack helicopter.
@Thisperson98 to each their own
I am actually gender fluid, this second I am a mailbox.
@Thisperson98 I get that you're trying to make a point but I stand by my statement and whether or not you want agree is all your decision. I think the world needs less shit like this though
@Thisperson98 I think what you're referring to is Polaris General Transmission Fluid. Now on sale for 12.99 at Honda retailers.
@TheRebel69 XD