Anyone else notice that nice guys tend to be really creepy?

[Anonymous]

I've been fanscinated with these "Nice guys finish last" kind of guys, and want to see if their cries are true. Not only have I realized they're assholes too, they tend to say creepy stuff too. And if they say stuff equally creepy off-line, it's a no-brainer that they're single. They especially show their creepiness when talking about rape, abuse, or murder: "You prefer an honest asshole over a dishonest nice guy? Then by your mentality, you prefer rapists because they're honest." "It's not fair that rapists and murderers have girlfriends while nice guys like us are single" "In this feminist world, no wonder why you have guys like Adam Lanza." "R. I. P. Elliot Rodgors, we know why you did it!" "When she got abused, I wanted to say "I told you so" but..." "I fucking hate single moms. They're leeches of society." Am I the only one whose spine shivers when reading those? Of course, this is just what they say online. I've talked to plenty of guys were really nice to me, but fall in love with me too quick and/or look creepy (they don't bathe, they don't groom themselves properly, they look homeless, ect). I'm not going to risk having my skin worn as a suit because some people think I'm obligated to "give a guy a chance".

[Anonymous]

yea I've figured it out long ago

there are nice guys like who are genuinely nice and sweet especially with women and know how to give people their personal space and dont think that they are doing the entire planet a favor by being nice,... they are nice because they are nice and thats it they dont expect a thank you back, they are doing the right thing from their own pov
(i found two guys on GAG like that actually and i just love them tbh)

and then there are the Steve carrels from the "The Office"... he thinks he is the best boss that ever came down this earth and he thinks his employees are craaaaazy fond of him, when he is actually bleeeeeeeh and no one likes him and he makes people go through bad things thinking they actually like it
these guys are no where near nice, they think just because they for ex dont rape women then it makes them saints, they dont know what personal space means, they LLOOOVVVVVVEEEEEEEEE "nice guys finish last" because it basically tells them "women dont like you because you are a nice guy and you are a gift to this planet... women only love jerks who treat them like trash and beat them, but thats not you, you are a fantastic guy"
thats why whenever i hear a guy use this sentence... well he is not in the friendzone... he is in a worse zone where i will never consider him more than an acquaintance and i would prefer to avoid him all together

[MaskedSanity]

I've never personally met a self proclaimed nice guy who wasn't a creeper or a dipshit.

Legit never.

Last one was obese, talked shit about always being rejected by "those bitches", then proceeded to show pictures of women he pursued who were all fit and attractive.

Dude goes after girls because they're very attractive, then whines about the girls rejecting him because he's not.

You know, because only HE should be allowed to pursue those he's attracted to, girls don't get to have standards, otherwise they're shallow bitches.

Such a catch.

[XxbitemeXx]

Nice guys finish last men are fat out of work, narcissistic assholes with personality disorders who feel entitled to dime piece pussy.

Real nice guys come in all shapes and sizes, but regardless of the outer shell have a beautiful heart with no sense of entitlement or rage issues

[muspelhem_5]

I'm what people like to call a "nice guy". Today on my way home, I met a woman who was very high on drugs and basically didn't know where she was. I spoke to her, helped her get on the right train (incidentally mine), and spoke to her the whole way. I discovered she didn't really have any idea what she would do when she reached her stop, which was after mine. She couldn't even read a sign 10 ft. from her face, and was hallucinating. Anyway, I considered offering her to sleep at my place, because I was a bit concerned what would happen to her.

But in the end I didn't, and the reason is I didn't want to appear creepy.

And this is why I am fucking sick of hearing about creepy guys. When women go on and on about it, it makes regular guys scared of even being friendly, or of asking women out, or whatever. You are CREATING creepy guys by always focusing on the bad things guys do. Meanwhile I see assholes treating their girlfriends like shit practically every day, but because they're big and strong and manly and covered in tattoos, that is somehow okay.

You know what? Fuck that.

I'm attracted to beautiful women rather than ugly women, but I shut up about it, because I realise that ugly women have feelings and I don't want to make the world an uglier place than it already is.

So girls: STFU about "creepy" etc. for once in your lives.

[Asker]

"it makes regular guys scared of even being friendly, or of asking women out, or whatever. " You think the comments I showed you were FRIENDLY? Did you read my question? Since you clearly didn't read let me show you what I'm talking about: "You prefer an honest asshole over a dishonest nice guy? Then by your mentality, you prefer rapists because they're honest." "It's not fair that rapists and murderers have girlfriends while nice guys like us are single" "In this feminist world, no wonder why you have guys like Adam Lanza." "R. I. P. Elliot Rodgors, we know why you did it!" "When she got abused, I wanted to say "I told you so" but..." "I fucking hate single moms. They're leeches of society." You HONESTLY think normal guys would say shit like this? "Meanwhile I see assholes treating their girlfriends like shit practically every day, but because they're big and strong and manly and covered in tattoos, that is somehow okay." You sure its not because that's what you WANT to see?

[muspelhem_5]

Nevermind. You're obviously clueless about what it's actually like to be a guy where you don't get taught shit about what to do if you're attracted to a woman, and where it's up to YOU to take the initiative and best all the other guys viying for her attention, deal with the fact that she is sick of being approached and therefore likely to dismiss you anyway. I doubt you know what it's like to see beautiful, sexy women every single fucking day that you know you are never going to date, but you still have to smile and be friendly and civilized even though it's eating you up from the inside. You don't know loneliness. You don't know shit.

[Asker]

"I doubt you know what it's like to see beautiful, sexy women every single fucking day that you know you are never going to date" So let me get this straight: You want a girlfriend who's physically attractive, but the girl can't want a boyfriend who's physically attractive? You honestly just sound shallow. "you still have to smile and be friendly and civilized even though it's eating you up from the inside." So you're not actually a friendly person, you're just passive-aggressive and very thirsty. "You don't know loneliness. You don't know shit." Actually I have been rejected, friend zoned, and cried over being lonely. Difference between you and me is that I don't whine about it and wallow in my self-pity. Perhaps if you tried going after an average-looking girl with common interests as you, you'd stop getting rejected.

[muspelhem_5]

Thanks for all your unsolicited opinions on my appearance. You are aware that looks are the number one trait that attracts men, but is farther down the list for women? Therefore, no, I am not wired like you and going to just look for a woman with a "great personality" who I'm not physically attracted to. And remind me of the point where I said women aren't free to choose who they date? Oh yeah, that's right, I didn't. And congratulations on being such a proud and proactive specimen. Let me kiss your feet.

[muspelhem_5]

And thanks for the kindness lecture. Your whole Take is the equivalent of me writing one ridiculing fat women. Evidently you're an expert on kindness.

[Asker]

"You are aware that looks are the number one trait that attracts men, but is farther down the list for women?" So not only are you shallow, you're going to use the I'm-A-Man-And-Can't-Help-It BS to justify it. Then, go masturbate with your tears for all I care. There's only three ways for you to get a hot girlfriend: 1). Be Hot 2). Be Rich 3). Have a magnetic personality (very subjective). What? You don't have any of those qualities? Then you lower standards or step your game up. What? You don't want to do any of those things? THEN TOUGH SHIT.

[muspelhem_5]

Yay. More unsolicited advice. Where do you get it? Your ass? It's not an excuse, it's a biological fact.

[Asker]

"it's a biological fact" Well, it's also a biological fact that females prefer attractive mates and/or the most productive mates (i. e. rich). And if you're neither of things (which clearly you aren't because you wouldn't have trouble), you're shit out of luck. Like I said, go masturbate with your tears for all I care. Most guys your age stop complaining about this crap. Unless they're immature, of course.

[muspelhem_5]

I'm perfectly aware that effectiveness is attractive and that wealth can be a sign of effectiveness. I'm also aware that I'm not very attractive. I sort of made that clear early on. But thanks for reminding me yet again. You really are a piece of work.

[Asker]

EXACTLY. And I can't stand guys like you. You're shallow and you have the nerve to act like you deserve pity for not getting your dream girl. I would never ridicule a fat woman. I would ridicule her if she was whining about how lonely she is, but only chased after body-builders and male models. So stop giving people that "You don't know loneliness. You don't know shit" BULLSHIT. Loneliness is a part of being human, so the majority of us know what's it like to be lonely, YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL FOR FEELING LONELY. By the way, your pity-party have nothing to do with the topic of creepy guys. Most guys get rejected by pretty girls, it's a common occurrence.

[Asker]

Now going back on topic: "You are CREATING creepy guys by always focusing on the bad things guys do." No one said told you guys to say creepy shit. Y'all do that on your own. " When women go on and on about it, it makes regular guys scared of even being friendly," The fact you think those comments are friendly only shows how little you understand women. "So girls: STFU about "creepy" etc. for once in your lives." THEN STOP BEING CREEPY. XD "Meanwhile I see assholes treating their girlfriends like shit practically every day, but because they're big and strong and manly and covered in tattoos, that is somehow okay." Yeah, it's unfair when girls only date assholes, but perfectly okay when guys chase after bimbos and bitches just because they're hot.

[muspelhem_5]

Okay, bye b*tch. Thanks for all the hatred. Congratulations on your courageous anonymous onslaught.

[Asker]

Awwww, the baby's sad because I tore up his fragile sad excuse of an argument. lol

[kambo_trick3y]

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[BinkyBaenziger]

I don't agree with any of this... lol.

[ThePragmaticRomantic]

A lot of guys who label themselves as 'nice guys' are pretty creepy yeah. A lot of them are fanatical white knights, or stuck in a victim complex. To an extent it could well be due to the "every man is a rapist" crap the media throws about, some people just internalise that in the worst ways.
But then anyone who goes out of their way to label themselves is pretty creepy, it speeks volumes of self worth issues, and alienation. Just look at the fanatical "Gamer-Girlz" who are in it for the attention (as opposed to girls who are gamers), and generally any fanatic who throws themselves into a cause with reckless abandon just because they want to belong (be that cause religious extremism, vegenism, animal rights or any other group).

Outside of those guys though, there are plenty of non-creepy guys who are nice... or at least not dedicated arse-holes.

[Asker]

"To an extent it could well be due to the "every man is a rapist" crap the media throws about," Can someone please show me where this "rape culture media" is? Because I've never seen it.

[ThePragmaticRomantic]

Its a rather flippant nickname for the antagonist stance a lot of feminist media takes. For instance "teach men not to rape" both ignores the sexual assaults, and rapes, commited by women, but also implies that all men are potential rapists. And supported by other media concepts like "Schrödinger's Rapist" coined by PI Phaedra Starling, and constant claims that the western countries have a "rape culture". It all ends up with a silly 'witch-hunt' feel again something we have seen in the media of late. The assumption that all men are potential rapists also plays into the frequent cases of "guilty until proven inocent" with media treatment of rape accusations. Look at things like the UVA rape claim and the media support following the Rolling Stone article. (Easy to find on google) Finaly the claim "all men are rapists" has literally been adopted by a number of feminist extremists which have solid (though not particularly large) followings on tumbler, twitter and other social media

[Asker]

Dude, you're completely exaggerating how much influence they have on culture. If you haven't noticed, feminist extremists are more famously CRITICIZED than praised. Meanwhile, I see the "Nice Guys Finish Last" BS fed to people in every other Guy-Flick, famously Revenge Of The Nerds. "The assumption that all men are potential rapists also plays into the frequent cases of "guilty until proven inocent" with media treatment of rape accusations. " If you're talking about Bill Cosby, there's been like 20 women who have already accused him of rape. I would have been skeptic at 1 victim, but TWNETY? Also, Kobe Bryant was accused of rape, found innocent, and people still respect and love him. And then, look at R. Kelly, he's had clear history of sleeping with teen girls and very few care. Am I rape culture is everywhere? No. But neither is the "men are potential rapists" mentality very rampant. In fact, Law & Order: SUV, there has a couple of cases of female rapists and female pedophiles.

[pr3ttybr0wn]

There are quite a few guys who fit that description they are gross and deserve to be shunned by women.

[Jim_F]

Wow
It seems like your perspective is really narrow. I hope you aren't wasting too much time focusing on a small, deviant part of society. Maybe you should reassess the type of guy that you're initially attracted to.
Every personality is a spectrum of good and bad. There are plenty of guys who are mostly good. (Even though they still have a bit of creepy in them)

[Asker]

I find it hilarious you think I'm attracted to such creeps. You are fucking funny. "Every personality is a spectrum of good and bad." Thanks captain fucking obvious. Are you going to tell me that the sky is blue too?

[Jim_F]

Thanks for letting us know which end of the spectrum you're on

[Freakyminnwomam]

This actually made me lol, the last part about the human skin suit... ya... lol beeeeen there

[oldlady]

Yeah, I wonder if the "nice guys finish last whiners" who seem to think they're somehow entitled to a girlfriend, are really "nice" to women.

[tattooedhandfet]

I have no idea what guys you have been chatting it up with. But the guys I have spoken to aren't like this. Especially not the nice ones👍I'm not afraid of becoming a skin suit. Maybe you need to recosider who you speak to online.

[love2run13]

Yes, reading those makes me pissed off and annoyed. Whoever says them are chauvinistic assholes tbh...

[love2run13]

BUT not all nice guys are creepy

[ThatAsianFellow]

https://youtu.be/xfeys7Jfnx8

This song.. XD

[AleDeEurope]

Ahahaha that Ryan Higa is hilarious xD

[JuicyBrain]

I am sorry but you make no sense. What makes you think these guys are nice guys if they say such stupid things? Since when are nice guys anti-feminists? What's your definition of nice guys for christ's sake?
Also, could you please learn what the word creepy means? It seems like you think you can use this word anywhere anytime... A guy who doesn't bathe is not creepy, he's filthy...

[Asker]

I literally described them in the first sentence: "I've been fanscinated with these "Nice guys finish last" kind of guys".

[JuicyBrain]

This is not much of a description... So the nice guys are the ones who finish last? I challenge your assumption by telling you that what you areactually describing are the assholes which inevitably finish last. The fact that they finish last doesn't mean they are nice guys obviously or they wouldn't be called nice guys.

[Asker]

Wow, you seriously never ran into these kind of guys? Lucky you.
www.buzzfeed.com/.../nice-guys-on-okcupid-are-the-worst

[JuicyBrain]

Those are guys who call themselves nice guys. You can't call yourself nice guy. Those guys are just assholes. Nice guys acts nicely, that's why they are called nice guys. The fact that a "blogger" uses words the wrong way does not make it ok to do the same... Basically you are saying that assholes are assholes and I wholly agree with that.

[Asker]

"Nice guys acts nicely, that's why they are called nice guys." Exactly. They ACT nice. That's not the same as actually being nice. Also, who the hell wants to be called "nice"? That's basically saying "at least you're not shit". I would rather be described as genuine, amazing, good, sweet, caring, adjectives with a stronger connotation than nice. Nice is the equivalent of saying "He's... alright."

[JuicyBrain]

If you had to name guys with all those qualities, how would you call them?

[Music4life1203]

Ma'am, I don't know who you've been dating, but they sound more like douche bags than the supposed "nice guy"

[Asker]

Well, go tell that to them. Then they'll call you a bitch, and tell you to "Go ahead and fuck your asshole boyfriend! While us Nice Guys stay in the friend zone where you left us!" Keyword is SUPPOSED.

[ThisDudeHere]

Can I call myself a nice guy without being immediately labeled a creep or an asshole? I treat everyone (men&women) with respect.

[Asker]

"Can I call myself a nice guy without being immediately labeled a creep or an asshole? " You're better off not doing that. As people would say "Let your actions speak for yourselves".

[AleDeEurope]

If you refer to just those "nice guys" that cry because they always finish last, the yeah I agree. But there are real nice guys that aren't crying babiea and aren't creepy at all.

[RexCatholicissimus]

I don't really take notice to be completely honest, I realise that somebody can have certain socio-political opinions without actually being a "nice guy."

Not that I ever really understood what the term meant, it seems to be pretty unquantifiable to me. Especially since I've never really met men I would consider "nice guys", all the guys I've kept around as friends are very brash, open-ended people that are capable of being courteous if need be.

I sincerely hope that your opinions don't make it difficult for you to get into relationships in the future, take it from me that having a "fascination" (as you put it) like this can really poison the mind and wreck your perspective on decent people.

[BertMacklinFBI]

I have yet to talk to a guy who thinks a girl is obligated to give him a chance.

maybe girls just think like that lol.

[sawno]

I do consider myself a nice guy, and i hope i am not that creepy lol.
I dont agree with those statements the "Nice guys" have made.

There is a difference between guys who TRY to act "Nice" because they hope thats what you look for and guys who are just themselves and genuinely nice people. Its the last group that are the genuinely nice guys and they are probably seen as normal people instead of the nice guy because they won't force there "Niceness" upon you.

The genuine nice guys are the guys who your going to tell everyone how nice of a boyfriend they are instead of them telling you! And if you ever had a guy like that you know they exist.

[slatyb]

Lots of essays on the net about the needy "nice guys" who can't attract women. The gist is that: 1. nice is nothing special. That's just a basic requirement.
2. Guys get girls because they have something to offer.
3. The "nice guys" usually aren't all that nice -- they hang around doing unwanted favors hoping to get laid.

[bubble_tea]

Yes, and 'nice girls' tend to be really...
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[kittykatbrat]

Define "nice guy"

[Asker]

*sighs* I literally said it in the first sentence, dear. They're the guys that go around saying "Nice guys finish last". And no, that's not the same as being a nice person.

[kittykatbrat]

... K. Based on your definition I don't know any guys like that. Peace xo

[creepycreeper]

But single moms are the leeches of society. If we'd just deport all the single moms and their bastard offspring to Africa or some place we'd have a National Surplus again instead of a National Debt. They do nothing but spend their welfare checks and food stamps. Now there are a few single moms who support their kids without leeching off the government but I'm not talking about those, I'm talking about those you have to wait behind in Walmart for an hour while they dig their food stamp card out of their nasty ass purse.