How to deal with a low blow?

[laraWM]

I was asked this question by male students, and I didn't know what to answer.

As a girl, I didn't think about that before. I was annoyed I had no advice cause I noticed that usually male students can't handle the pain of a low blow. They just curl into a ball on the floor until the pain goes totally away.

So, do you know some advice to avoid that? I couldn't find any for now and I can't believe it

[Iron_Man]

You got to suck it up and punch back right in the nose

[laraWM]

I agree but it looks like it is not easy pain to fight. Do you mean they could lack mental strength and tend to let the pain incapacitate them. I thought about that but I was not sure that I should tell them because I don't know how much it hurts. But if it comes from guys, I'll try

[Iron_Man]

Unexpected punches to the gut hurts but if you see it coming you can handle it better

[laraWM]

You're right, it is more like being prepared to the fact that it could happen. Obviously it can be very useful to be more attentive. So for you, nothing I can do after it happened?

[Iron_Man]

It’s happened to me and then four seconds later I stood up straight and pounded him in the nose

[laraWM]

You stood up? So I understand you were to the ground, for a short time but you were not able to avoid it. That has to hurt a lot. I guess you're well trained and have a high pain threshold. I usually tell my students that it hurts a lot and it is totally normal to be immobilized to the ground for a long time, but I feel bad for them. Maybe I was wrong, but as a girl, I didn't dare to tell us that they exaggerate and they shouldn't let the pain incapacitate them. With your story, I think I could try

[Iron_Man]

Aww You’re so nice It was a pleasure working with you. No I never went to the ground I just bent over at first and it totally cut me off guard. After I punched him in the nose hours later after school he met me in the parking lot then I had a knock him out cold

[Iron_Man]

Who actually punched you in the stomach a man or woman?

[Anonymous]

I think I answered one of your other questions you might remember me. I talked about how I play coed waterpolo and how it’s very common for guys to get hit in the groin on purpose. When guys on my team get hit there they always go down groaning massaging themselves there and don’t get up for awhile. Like I said in my last post pretty much everything underwater is legal.
There isn’t really much a guy can do to deal with it but I do try to teach the guys on my team a few things to do to cope and avoid hits there. First, it’s important to note that guys are VERY sensitive in that area and it varies between guys. That and guys on my team where white speedos like this:

a Male waterpolo player

These uniforms are great for movement but provide no protection and obviously reveal the male virtility a lot. Most guys on my team go down from hits there just because they are so sensitive I think no matter how tough you are an attack to such a vunerable dangly area of their virtuality is too much for them to bear.

For example, I was being guarded by a girl next to my team captain who was also being guarded by a girl and I saw that he let his guard down and she basically went to town on his junk by grabbing it under the water and squeezing/twisting/clawing into it. I was being guarded and was unable to swim over to help. My tough team captain (who tbh has the exact same build as the guy in the pic) tried to fight back for about 15 seconds but pretty soon he couldn’t bear the pain and when she let go both his arms went under the water holding himself and seconds after the round ended, he climbed out of the pool and went to the ground massaging his package moaning from the damage she caused. He had basically no control over his reaction his delicate male parts had been damaged and his body reacted. This guy was a no pain no gain type. He was tough, sexy and lifted weights often but a hit to such a vunerable area will bring down any guy. He tried so hard to fight the pain I could tell he couldn’t resist it after she let go. Poor guy :( luckily he was ok after a few minutes but my point is there isn’t much coping when the vunerable male danglies are receiving damage.

Second, I teach our guys how to avoid strikes there. We “spar” a lot in the water and I’ll fake strikes to that area to help them learn to defend it better. This is especially needed for the new players and the stronger ones that tend to be overconfident. I think the most important thing is to teach guys in sports how to avoid hits here especially in the ones I play. You can also do this with other sports and sort of train them to be aware of incoming strikes there. I notice in sports with legal groin strikes most guys are not used to having to defend themselves there at all.

second I like to tell guys that they are still tough even if they go down. In MMA even with protection every guy that gets hit there goes down. I teach the guys on my team that even if it hurts a lot and you go down you can still recover and make a comeback. I teach them that their virtility is still a point of pride for the team and that id rather it not get damaged. I always think that it hurts a lot there for a reason and if a guy goes down it’s because his masculine areas are being damaged. My coping strategy primarily focuses on building guys confidence back after the hit. I let them know that having a sensitive area is completely normal and that they are still tough and we need them for our team. I need them back in the pool ASAP with the same confidence they had before. To cope I also try to equip them with a warrior mentality so that they don’t play in fear of a strike. I teach them that it could happen anytime and that they need to be brave and fight for our team. I also take advantage of the male psyche and tell them that they need to be brave for the girls on our team because we can’t win ourselves. This usually gives them a since of purpose and confidence. Even when my guy teammates do go down moaning looking weak after having received damage there I they always play bravely and aggressively without any fear. They are very mentally strong and I make sure to tell them this everyday to help them cope. Also building mental strength is important too. The guys on my team are incredibly tough and mentally strong they can go for a few seconds from being grabbed or kneed there but even then they go down quick after a few good strikes moaning massaging themselves

a another good way to physically cope after a hit is ice and to massage the area. I am an friends with benefits with one of my teammates and after every game if I see him take a hit there I’ll go in private and help him massage the package which he says helps him cope with the pain some and to not be sore there the next day.

please comment if you have questions and need some more advice I have a lot of experience in this. I have more stories too if you’d like to hear them about my teammates receiving specific types of hits to that area and their exact reaction if you’d like to know.

[laraWM]

I'm surprised you still find guys to play that sport if they are incapacitated most of the time lol. And how will you win against a female team if you can't reach their testicles to get the upper hand?

[Opinion Owner]

@laraWM They aren’t incapacitated most of the time like I said in my last question we can’t win with out them. If our guys were out of the game we’d definitely lose as we’d have no muscle to compete with the other guys and to overpower the girls. It happens a few times a game but not extremely often and when they are incapacitated it’s for a short period of time. It’s rare but every once in awhile if it’s a harder hit then it’s longer. Most of the time the guys are too strong and I can’t even grab that area. It’s coed so the other teams do have a lot of girls. I compete with them by fighting rough just like I do with the guys. Girls are actually easier because we have similar strength. Girls in waterpolo play very dirty against both guys and girls. I've played in all girls leagues they also play very dirty but I don’t like it as much. Coed is fun Bc I get to touch hot guys and I like the dynamic more. The height and strength differences between guys and girls creates a different play style that I find interesting and changes up the strategy. It’s actually harder to play against guys Bc like I said strength and if I punch any other part of their body it’s like just hitting a wall lol. Guys are pretty good at defending that area they typically get hit there when they are being really aggressive or trying to throw the ball and leave their area unguarded. Typically the guy can guard his area well and overpower most girls easily. If a guy gets hit there usually they just drop the ball and are good to go again after 30 seconds or so. For example my team captain hardly ever gets hit there despite having a very large and sensitive package (I know this Bc white speedo lol very easy to see) . The last time he got hit there several games ago he got double teamed by two girls. I was just talking about some of the worse cases. It does happen a few times a game but most the time the guys are playing very well and play even better than me.

[Opinion Owner]

@laraWM I don’t see my guys as weak at all they are actually very good at the sport compared to me and typically perform better than me. Do you think you’d feel protective over your teammates at all in a sport like this? I must admit my teammates are all very fit and I feel quite smug about how hot the guys on my team are. I’m quite protective over them. I like it when my guys are able to easily control the girls on the other team makes me smug lol. I get upset when they get hit there their muscles and packages are like a source of pride for the girls on our team lol. My guys look so strong when they work out gotta be proud of them for how fit they are! :p

[Opinion Owner]

@laraWM do you think you’d feel protective over your male teammates in a sport like this? Would you get distracted?

[laraWM]

I'd basically feel bad for them because it looks super painful. And I'd worry that they will eventually injure their testicles. To be honest, what you described sounds more like street fight to me

[Opinion Owner]

@laraWM it’s not a street fight because there are still rules and being underwater dampens the blows too tbh. It’s mostly just being really scrappy in the water with some kicks and stuff. It’s like wrestling but with dirtier moves. There is no eye gouging and stuff like that it’s basically just really aggressive wrestling in the water. With that being said you think you’d aim there if you played? I felt weird about it at first but the guys I go against play pretty rough with me abs they are stronger. Plus the girls always play very dirty against each other

[trumpets310]

Do any of the guys ever get injured / bruised testicles from playing water polo?

[laraWM]

@trumpets310 Sounds really rough at least

[Anonymous]

This is a really good question and it doesn’t really have a good answer it’s hard.


For context I helped to teach wrestling a lot and helped with the mats and stuff. Guys were basically commando in singlets and lots of them were too stubborn to where cups and claimed it effected their performance. Even though they wear gear like this:
4ZeBq7TX4CLmujjM8https://images. app. goo. gl/FnoJd33wwxmRsBsz5First I tried to focus on prevention so if they didn’t wanna wear cups I’d try to teach them how to effectively dodge swinging accidental legs or purposeful blows. Lots of stronger guys especially think they are invincible but they have big balls so I tried to teach them not to leave their legs spread near swinging feet quite as much and to keep their hips up and away. Guys would also take grazes there a lot and just basically freeze up from the pain and then bc they froze up take a second graze or heel there and collapse in pain so I’d teach them even if they are in lots of pain to swing their hips up right after taking a graze to get their dangly bits out of harms way and if they can’t deal with the pain to collapse after they do that so at least they won’t get hit twice or take a hard bit that could hurt them so bad they’d need 5 minutes to recoup fully. but it was hard I mean there sadly isn’t much guys can do to deal with low blows there I just told them to try their best to fight through and collapse if needed when it gets to painful and try to escape from harms way. I let them know I’d always try to let the ref know and stand over them while their vunerable like that and are holding themselves. No amount of training can really prevent it tbh. One of tie strongest guys on our team and best wrestlers with a big package took an accidental heel in a match it wasn’t that hard but his junk bounced around from it and he went to the floor massaging himself for 5 minutes and I had been working with him for weeks before that on how to properly dodge and cope with the pain and the mental game but it didn’t seem to matter the pain was too great for him from a light tap and he was down. Ofc blows there are illegal but it’s normal for accidents to happen in sports. What do you tell your guys in your sports or PE? I’m at a loss I’d really like to encourage them more. The main thing I think is letting them know it’s temporary and they aren’t any less tough or athletic bc of it.

[Opinion Owner]

But yeah basically they can lessen pain by spreading their legs and massaging themselves on the floor but going down curled into a ball seems universal I was surprised too after working with the best guy on our team for so long and toughening him up with training too. he looked like he tried to fight through it but ended up curled in a ball on the floor. I saw his junk move around from the impact in his singlet so it must have been really painful for him to have it swing like that. Guys balls are just incredibly sensitive to pain it really doesn’t matter how tough he is. Afterwords we tried training again and I even tapped him there and told him to try to stand but he went to his knees and keep in mind this is the best wrestler on our team he won the regional championship.

[Opinion Owner]

I can’t send links here bc I’m not high enough XP but accept my follow and I can show you some examples of how training doesn’t seem to matter much in some videos..

[laraWM]

Old question lol, but to be honest I still have no answer on it. And I didn't really understand the idea when you said they can lessen pain by spreading their legs and massaging themselves on the floor. And to my students, I usually say being hit there is really painful to guys and it is normal to be incapacitated from it

[Opinion Owner]

PM me? Ah I meant like guys seem to have some pain relief when they get on their knees and spread their legs and massage they still go down but apparently it can help. Do you teach any sports? It’s kind of difficult because some of these attractive and tough guys I teach can’t really take even light blows there. It’s like when they get hit there their training is useless. Doesn’t help that the singlets are so revealing either lol leaves them open to hits there. I instructed all of the guys once to do an exercise where they were on top and near the other guys heel they didn’t know this but I know most of them would probably take some accidental heel taps to the junk in that position and that was the point I told them to hold on and fight through/dodge but they all ended up on the Matt holding themselves. It’s almost made me wonder if in certain matches if the girls would be better despite being weaker bc there is one girl that’s in the same weight class as the guy on my team but lately the guy has started to lose very often because he goes again opponents who flail a lot and every single time his danglies are hit and bounce around every time without fail he goes the ground in severe pain and his muscles give out despite being really strong and our best wrestler and some coed girls do not fight clean either. He’s also gotten over confident and has really bad defense like he will take 2 or 3 grazes in a row sometimes bc he won’t move and he’ll collapse despite being dominant over his opponent. We never have this issue with the girls. We’d be a way tougher team if our guys could avoid collapsing in so much pain and looking so weak all the time bc of it tbh. So let me know if you discover any ways for guys to deal with it. I know in mma it’s a problem too. Apparently the more testosterone a guy has the bigger has balls are and they’ll be more sensitive even tho the testosterone makes the guy tough every where else so that could be the issue?

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah I tell them it’s normal too and that it doesn’t make them weak it happens to the guys on other teams too. I also try to tell the girls on my team not to je tempted to aim for it even if it’s obvious on their opponent because it’s unfair and can hurt the guy a lot.

[laraWM]

Yes I'm PE teacher and I unfortunately saw accidental hit may happen in various sports. I always feel bad because I don't know what to do when it happens to a guy. Of course as you said they are always told to never to that on purpose because it is debilitating. Thank you for the technique but if I understand well it doesn't imply the guy stands up faster. So it looks like no one has a clue how to handle it. I asked my male colleagues but they said it is not such a big deal.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah the guys on my wrestling team have started going down from girls who appear to be cheating their singlet does not hide much and a tap can debilitate them. Since the other girls brush it off as an accident I don’t know what to tell them. Some guys are quite well endowed and do not wear underwear so it can hang and move around a lot. I told the girls on our team to not do the same to guys as it is dirty and really hurts and that even if the area is dangling and really tempting to not do it. Unfortunately I think there are some girls on my team who do this on purpose as we had some practice scrimmage tournaments to determine who would go first in the next real tournament and we decided to experiment and ignore weight class. We had them all go to their matts at the same time and compete to see who was pinned fist. It was just me so we could not ref them all. Unfortunately out of 8 matches going simultaneously guy vs girl 4 of the more muscular well endowed guys were on the Matt groaning holding themselves. The girls said it was an accident but I did not believe them. I did however advance them in the tournament and gave them the benefit of the doubt. Any advice? Can you PM I’d like to send you a gif and things like that but cannot with my xp level

[laraWM]

If you didn't see what happened, I suppose you were right to give them the benefit of the doubt. It'd have been unfair to punish someone who fairly win. Although you should probably have made the losers acknowledge it was an accident. To be honest I thought you were not allowed to capitalize on a accidental groin kick. And that you needed to stop the fight until the guy was able to get up. The idea could be to try to fight by group of 3 people, 2 fighting and one watching the rules

[Opinion Owner]

Will you please private message me? Kind of don’t want to post it all here but that’s a good idea. The 2 and 3 thing. Yeah some girl who just started and who is on the smaller side was able to beat our tall strong and far more skilled + tough and knowledgeable team captain who is well endowed and wasn’t wearing anything to support his dangly bits under his singlet at the time so it was definitely suspicious and I feel like he shouldn’t have lost at his skill level but even though he was upset he claimed he should just work on his defense. He was helpless for sometime on the ground after the match. I took him out back to the hallway because I thought it would be demotivating seeing the symbol of our teams strength looking so vulnerable because of some new girl half his size and even lots of the girls looked up to him. He was fine and refused ice but sat in a chair with his legs spread massaging himself there for awhile. Your not allowed to capitalise but since I was not watching they didn’t have anything stopping them from pinning them and the match never stopped no matter what happened or who was hit as a result some of our stronger more masculine teammates lost the practice tournament and will not be starting next game. They were not wearing any underwear or support there I noticed bc their junk swayed around and dangled a lot. Maybe next time I’ll ask if they can wear more support there at least. I was happy for the girls winning and felt quite powerful seeing it but it seems unfair and it’s definitely against the rules. I also don’t want our guy teammates to get hurt. Maybe we can have our guys work on some defense too? I also need to make sure the watcher is not a girl as they could be lax about that type of thing. Unfortunately I think many of the guys were very sensitive and succumbed to light slaps or knees to the area and could not stand and had very intense pain from it.

[laraWM]

I don't message, thanks. I feel bad for that guy but on the other hand based on his reaction it was probably a true accident because if he was kicked on purpose he'd probably complain I guess padding would be good if there are a lot of accidents. Another idea is to ask guys to yell something like "need a break" when they are kicked in the groin, so you can check the break is really done And to be honest I'm not sure girls would be lax about it. I mean you're a girl and you're really strict about groin kick as I am Last point, they could work on it but not sure it is usefull since it is forbidden. I'd rather have use the guy you talked about as an example why it shoud never be done, it is extremelly painful even when accidental

[Opinion Owner]

Ah that’s ok. Why not? It’s just more private is all. The pm on this app is all private. I don’t think it was an accident honestly the guys who were hit some did complain because remember 4 guys out of 8 were hit there. I just think these guys aren’t the type to complain honestly because they fear upsetting the girls and have a sort of growth roll with the punches mindset to injuries. They don’t want to create conflict on their team and honestly I think some of the guys are attracted to the girls and don’t want to upset them. That being said all 4 girls moved forward and we will now have the 4 girls who beat the guys against the 4 guys who didn’t lose. I noticed in the matches that the guys lost it is suspicious because the 4 guys who lost were our best stronger wrestlers and were all 6 feet. They were also very well endowed in the groin area which is also suspicious to me because they have more of a target in the singlets. On paper these guys should have never lost. But they did. They were left helpless on the ground. I also don’t like it because I agree to let the girls compete in this open weight class tournament coming up that’s sort of unofficial but we treat it like a competition against a rival school and I agreed to let the first 4 winners who were able to bring their opponents down the fastest to go first and then after that the 4 guys as they took a longer time to bring down their opponents for some reason. But I am not comfortable with this because for the first time EVER we will have 4 girls who are all below 5,5 starting this open weight tournament while the 4 tallest, best wrestlers with the most wines and experience under their belt and objectively and aesthetically most fit men on our team will have to sit it out. We have for petite freshmen girls 3 of them in JV still starting out in place of our 4 best varsity guys 2 of which were regional champs on their weight class and they all performed very well in the open weight tournament

[Opinion Owner]

I truly believe that these naive freshmen girls took advantage of our well endowed strongest wrestlers obvious weak spots to get a win under their belt in practice and get a chance to finally start a tournament. I think they used their experience against them too along with their obvious sensitivity and big targets that were revealed in the singlets. More experienced wrestlers are used to playing at a higher level and the rules being expected and followed. I noticed even though I didn’t see the hits they spread their legs very wide and left themselves very open while powering their opponents around and didn’t really seem to have much care about protecting that area and new it was better to leave their legs spread very wide and let their package swing in front of their opponent as they’d get more leverage but I think the freshman girls saw this as an easy win. I noticed all the guys who lost were doing this and leaving themselves very exposed likely due to their experience. To be honest, I know they are tough but I’ve seen them in matches even though those 4 they are my best wrestlers it only takes a graze or light slap to bring them down and completely disable them due to the size of their package. Their height and muscles don’t really matter in those cases. So I think the girls just landed a slap or heel from below and picked up an easy victory the guys would have never seen it coming and obviously would not be prepared.

[laraWM]

I don't know what to answer. I can't believe that you're right and that four girls kicked guys in the balls on purpose. If that's true, I can definitely understand it was easier to win after that...

[Opinion Owner]

Long time no see. Yeah it was definitely be on purpose. To be honest I feel insecure about it. These were supposed to be the best and toughest guys on our team. They lift weights all the time and are like the perfect masculine men have nice legs and muscles frames. They are also our best wrestlers in terms of technique and wins and losses. They have abs too. What I don’t understand is how the best wrestlers on our team lost to 4 freshmen girls who are completely inexperienced. Not only was it easier for them to win but I saw a video someone filmed of it I just found and I just saw and it was literally just one little slap or knee on all 4 of them and they INSTANTLY collapsed and were massaging themselves on the ground for a looong time. Ouch. I suppose when you are commando in a singlet and well endowed with big balls like that’s pretty much all it takes. Only one of the guys stood for a bit. She slapped him from below with a slap while they were both standing and she just backed up and stood there. I thought maybe because he had strong legs he’d keep going and use his legs to power her around and lock up with her again but no. His strong legs buckled and he looked like he was breathing heavy and he went down to the Matt on his knees with his butt up in the air massaging his balls. Despite this they won’t wear cups still. I’m distressed these strong guys lost so quickly after getting tapped there from such small opponents. Do you think it would bad to hold a practice where I warn all the guys groin strikes are allowed for just one practice and try to teach them to defend that area better? Also the girls entered the tournament but there was a ref they none of them could do their dirty moves. It was a disaster the girls got destroyed of course. With the exception of one girl she landed a knee to a guy groin but he got a full 10 minute recovery from it and she lost a point. He came back and beat her after that. They got dominated.

[Opinion Owner]

If only we had the strong guys who lost we’d have won at least one match in that tournament but we didn’t because it was all freshmen newbies versus senior 6 foot tall athletic experienced men with abs. What was I thinking putting small women against them. I was trying to be fair to them since they won the tournament practice.

[Opinion Owner]

Is it typical for strong guys like that to go down so easily and in so much pain? Even the guy in the official tournament who took the knee really was not ok he only was ok because he got well over 10 minutes of recovery time where he got ice and was writhing in pain. It seems the girls would win a lot if there weren’t any groin strike rules

[Opinion Owner]

I do understand they are well endowed and are not wearing underwear or protection. I see their balls dangle and sway literally but it’s always surprising to me

[laraWM]

You really need to enforce the rules. It is the first point in every class, if you don't respect the rule, you must leave. No need to practice something which is clearly against the rule. For the tournament, I guess it was fair to send the girls because they won the practice and you had no idea what had happened at that time. I don't know, maybe the guys were overconfident, but on the other hand they obviously didn't expect someone used such a move. And I suppose they don't wear a cup because they can get a recovery break when they got hit there I hope your girls learnt the lesson

[Opinion Owner]

Don’t you think it’s unfair that they get such a long recovery though sometimes? The one girl who landed the knee against the really athletic guy with big dangley balls would have easily won but he got a full 10 minute recovery? He came back and won after but only after longer than 10 minutes of writhing in pain on the ground. This guy was over 6 feet and was very muscled from his sport. He even had abs, If the recovery time was only 5 minutes he’d still have been on the floor massaging his manhood in pain. This guy was their team captain and I saw him doing very heavy bar squats with his legs which are very well developed and toned before the match and also learned he had taken a special krav class where he took many groin attacks and learned to become tougher there and to dodge hits effectively. But this guy just… stood there with his legs spread wide in front of her while powering her around and her knee hit his thigh twice and he just.. didn’t move his hips or react? Then when he took the knee he immediately collapsed groaning his abs and muscled thighs didn’t protect him at all? Is that typical for guys? This small girl deserved a win there I feel but the rules took a point of for her and he got s very long recovery time of over 10 minutes

[laraWM]

I can't relate to the pain, so I won't assume anything. If the guy needed more than 10 minutes to recover, fair enough. I guess the recovery could depend more on the pain tolerance of everyone rather than muscles. To be honest, groin kicks are really painful to guys and it looks like they can't handle it, I think that's why they are forbidden.

[trumpets310]

Wow even a slap works? People use that? You said the guys were all dangling low, do guys who wear tighter underwear take hits better since they aren't swinging around?

[laraWM]

@trumpets310 Didn't know that either, but I'd have thought you should have known better than us how bad the slap would affect you

[trumpets310]

Well I don't wrestle and I'm not trying to have someone test it on me lmao. So I was hoping to find out without getting myself involved

[laraWM]

@trumpets310 I can't relate but I understand you based on guys reactions

[Fork65]

Pm me please

[trumpets310]

Do you think wearing tighter singlets would help so their packages wouldn't bounce from being kicked?

[laraWM]

@trumpets310 No idea but I'm not sure how it'll help

[trumpets310]

It might help control the bouncing so the hits there are less painful

[laraWM]

@trumpets310 It could work, I don't know

[trumpets310]

What did you end up doing to help guys cope with ball shots?

[laraWM]

I'm sorry but to be honest I still haven't found something that seems to work to fight that pain. Some colleagues said it is no big deal. But when someone can't get up from a hit I don't think it is no big deal. Unfortunately from what I know, as no one learnt me something useful, your best option is to stay on the floor until the pain goes away

[trumpets310]

Thanks anyways :( I'll stick with avoiding getting hit then and laying on the ground when I do

[laraWM]

Yes of course best solution is not being hit. And you're welcome, every time an accident happens I feel bad I can't help