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If abortion was only permitted for women who had been raped, would you be OK with it?

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  • Woman are entitled to do whatever they want. In regards to their bodys

  • No because Health of the mother is important too.

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  • Generally the exceptions for abortion have been made for cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. This on the basis of the principle of self-defense. It does not lessen the humanity of the child, but asserts that in an equal balancing in morals and law, the individual has a right to protect herself from the consequences of actions that she did not voluntarily engage in.

    This being different than a case where the women freely engages in sex, decides that she does not want the child and thereby shifts the consequences for her choices, however unwise, to a being not responsible for such choice. I. e., the child who is human and who is not responsible for the free choices of another individual.

    To be sure, this is a morally and philosophically problematic argument. The child is not, after all, in any case responsible for the circumstances of its conception. However, in placing a premium on the value of life, gives emphasis to the life of the mother who was made so not by her own will. This then placing primacy on the right of self-defense inherent in the name of the inherent value of life.

    (As a personal aside. I have a lady friend who was impregnated in a rape. She opted to keep the baby and has turned out to be a stupendous mother. Her child just turned 16. So I have seen this argument from the other side.)

    Allowing abortions in case of rape and incest is certainly a gray area. However, it is a compromise rooted in the same principle as the general opposition to abortion on demand. Specifically, the inherent value of life.

    This, in contrast to the abortion on demand argument, whose premise is that the value of human life is subjective and to be determined at the free will of the individual. Such moral relativism opening the door to all sorts of morally problematic questions.

    The problem here being the pedigree of the ideas that inspire the policies. Ideas have consequences, and a culture that starts with the idea that the individual will defines life is apt not to be, over the long one, very pretty. As history has amply demonstrated.

    • Men never get to be responsible of anything... Oddly...

    • To the contrary. By law, you can, if you prove parentage, require child support and other payments. You may also seek compensation for medical care during pregnancy. This even if you deceived the man and became pregnant against his will. Beyond that, the point of no fault divorce and other such innovations, was to establish legal equality - this including equality in property rights. (It used to be that a woman could only seek a divorce if she could prove abuse or infidelity. Once upon a time, a marriage license was a binding legal contract.) The upside of such innovations is that it leveled the legal and cultural playing field. What it could not do was compensate for biology. The fact that only a woman can become pregnant is not something the law can do much about. Rather it depends upon the actions of the individuals involved. Put simply, a woman must - as a man must - weigh the risks of a given action and is, in general, liable for its consequences intended or otherwise. In the case of abortion, of course, there is a third party - innocent by any standard - involved. The child. Though presently under American law that life is not recognized as such and therefore has no rights or legal protections. This until a point in time that is more or less arbitrarily determined. The cultural ethos that underpins such laws then making complaints such as your's problematic. The law then being an assertion of power by default, and not an assertion of moral or legal equality.

    • A child is forever a responsibility. And this is a responsibility I do not want as far as I'm concerned. No one will force me to do it...

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  • I think it carries too much risk of perverse incentives. I'd prefer to just keep abortion legal for all women regardless of the consequences that lead to the unwanted pregnancy, and then try to discourage abortions (and moreover, mitigate unwanted pregnancies) through means other than the force of law.

  • In non-rape cases, i feel that both the man and woman should have a say in the matter, with slight favor to the woman. If the man want the abortion, but the woman wants to keep the child, then the woman should win. If the opposite happens, I think it should go to a court debated decision if an agreement can't be found.

    But at the end of the day, even if I disagree with the idea, the issue does not affect me. so my opinion should not be a factor.

  • Abortion should be a choice for more than just women who are raped. If someone is pregnant but is at high risk or will be at high risk if she continues then she should have the right to make that hard decision.

  • If we could interview the unborn children whose deaths were being contemplated, how do you think they would vote on this issue?

    • How do you think children born from a rape would vote?

    • It is called using a pendulum or other similar divination device there my lady.

    • They wouldn't vote because they're not sentient.

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  • NO I still would not be OK with RAPE,, what and idiotic question.

  • That's not realistic.

    How do you assess rape from a legal perspective?
    * Do you have to get a conviction first?
    * Or is a rape kit sufficient and some official rules that "rough sex" occured.
    * What if the "rapist" is public - like a boyfriend or ex-boyfriend or husband and he says it wasn't rape but consensual? Of course, she disagrees and claims it is rape.
    * You'd notice that the number of "rapes" would skyrocket as women falsely claimed rape just to get abortions...
    * ... and of course there will be sympathetic doctors who will rule that it was rape even though it wasn't because they believe that abortion should be permitted... Most of those doctors will be female. So, to cut down on this false official rapes, should those doctors only be men?


    Look. It's just not realistic. This is the problem with both liberals and conservatives when they come up with these panacea ideas; there will always be those who disagree and do what they can to find loopholes and thwart the system.

    • So... Rape doesn't exist now?

    • No, of course there's real rape. My point is that there will be lots of false rape reported just to get an abortion. Furthermore, the reality is that, from a legal perspective, a women isn't the one who determines if she is raped; someone else needs to determine that.

    • I disagree. The person who was raped can definitely tell if she was. If you were stolen your bag, is it to be determined by someone else whether it was really a theft or not?

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  • No I would only permit this in the case where the life of the mother was at risk. Other than that if you don't want to raise your rapists kid than give it up for adoption or something.

    • And handle 9 months of pregnancy?

    • 9 months of limited life (Your alive but some things you can't do) verses an entire life ended (Baby dead). It sucks but the baby isn't the rapist.

    • So you want a woman to bear the child of her rapist for 9 months? Maybe she'd be forced to quit her job cause her pregnancy would make her sick and she'd have to stay in bed. And you're OK with that?

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  • Yes. That's precisely what I advocate.

  • No, because there are guys that are framed for raping someone and get wrongfully convicted.

  • don't have sex if you can't deal with with the consequences in an adult manner. Abortion is the most disgusting way to cop out on your adult human responsibilities.

    • Irrelevant. What about women who are raped?

    • I misunderstood the question. I would be ok in rape cases, incest, etc. I'm not ok with boyfriend and girlfriend took no precautions, got pregnant, had an abortion, and continue as is nothing happened. That's the gross thing. sorry, I thought you meant EXCEPT rape.

    • People should take precautions. Abortion is obviously not the go-to contraception form. People should be educated. Abortion shouldn't be mainstream just like buying a milk bottle. Though, it should be permitted

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  • https://www.youtube.com/embed/MoudH-RPnEE

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  • No it should be allowed freely.

    • Obviously!

  • I am anti abortion but also Libertarian.
    I think Roe should be overturned and the individual states should control it but generally outlaw it after the first trimester.

    • Libertarian and anti-abortion... 🤔

    • Abortion is a human rights issue. That unborn human has the same rights as your grandmother in the upstairs bedroom does. It is not "part of the mother". It has its own DNA and deserves its Liberty. I am compromising by allowing it at all in support of others' Liberty.

    • It actually has zero rights until the third trimester, when it’s viable outside the womb. But during that time in most circumstances, abortion is not legal during that time.

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  • No, I'm only okay with abortion if the woman's life is in danger.

    • What about a mental health?

    • I don't see that as a justifiable reason to kill something

    • Oh really? People can kill themselves out of mental issues. You're really careless...

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  • Raped or in the case of danger for the mother's life, yes.

    • At least, yes.

  • I feel like there are three reasons for needing an abortion: 1. You were raped. 2. teen pregnancy. 3. homeless/ cannot afford to give the child basic needs like food and diapers. If you got knocked up in an enviroment where you can raise a child, keep it. Otherwise if you literally can't support the child, abort

  • No. I think it would lead to a rise is false rape claims.
    It should be freely available

  • Yes and no answer is misleading

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