Is it primal, biological, or natural for men to sexually enjoy seeing women in pain, discomfort, submission?

Why do you think men foster or harbor this domineering, animalistic, and somewhat abusive response towards women when it comes to intimacy?

Why do men get turned on seeing women in vulnerable positions?
Tied up, pinned down, etc.


Other stuff to like:
-hair pulling
-seeing red marks on the woman’s body
-hearing audible signs she’s in some struggle/discomfort
-slapping her
-choking her

And more...

Is it the testosterone? Evolutionary?
Societal?
Perhaps both?

The dynamic or relationship is similar to PREDATOR:PREY

I suspect, the more estrogen a man has, the LESS he’ll be into the above and the more sensitive he’ll be towards women’s feelings, wishes, comfort, etc.

I also suspect many men who like the above will NOT admit this, perhaps even anonymously just because they perceive it to hold some stigma and they might actually be internally embarrassed with themselves that they gravitate towards this.
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  • Submission? Yes. Pain and discomfort? No.

  • Kind of like women with rape fantasies? She doesn't want to actually be raped, but power exchange is a natural part of human sexuality, and most things are alright as long as both people trust each other. There's probably something evolutionary about it though, so yeah.

  • Noticing your age it’s due to the prevalence of porn during our generation. It’s literally that.

    Porn is a cold, staged, misogynist culture that teaches men subconsciously that women are for the pleasure of men, and due to the prevelance of women rarely enjoying themselves on camera it wires the man (and women’s brains) to learn about sex where it is not natural.

    Men are naturally dominant, but pain, seeing the girl suffer is not natural but something that is made prevalent in our generation.

    This is why I largely cut out porn from my life. I might watch it once a week but only something that’s amateur and realistic. Most of the professional shoots are not sex, they are not sex and the women are not enjoying themselves. A lot of them have past abuse from when they were young, some are even high on drugs to be able to take dicks that are 7-8 inches Without issue.

  • i find tied up woman looks really hot
    tried spanking once , later it is me who decided to stop because i can't pain at my hand , she have hard ass lmao

    • *can't stand the pain at my hand

  • BDSM isn't normal dude, and I'm saying this as a switch.

    And putting someone else's needs before your own doesn't mean you have more estrogen. Plenty of hardcore soldiers made the ultimate sacrifice for other people without regard for themselves.

  • I think it’s in the dna

  • I don't enjoy seeing a woman in "pain, discomfort, submission".

  • Uh, I don't enjoy such things?

  • I think its as simple as rape being one way to make children. Its a derangement that is likely more prevelant in people who are less capable of attracting willing sexual partners, or people who get enjoyment from the torment of others. You might also develope a taste for it by having sex with people who are turned on by the idea of being forced into sex

  • Why do you think having the satisfaction to help a woman is considered enjoying them in pain?

  • I'll ignore your 18 update because that's redicilous. It's not like I don't have a penis.

    No, I don't think it is, it depends on the man. Some men like me prefer the opposite like femdom. Some don't like BDSM at all.

  • Society.