A new trend on the wrong side of tiktok has come to light. People are now calling their sexuality "super straight". The " super" part being they will only date biological women. They even made their own flag in hopes to be in the lgbt + community.
Thoughts? Opinions? Discuss.
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I say biological women because it is generally straight men following this trend but I am sure there are some women also following
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Personally, I think the only reason this was created was to discriminate and be transphobic. Straight still defines your sexuality, you just have a preference.
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0112358Master
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It's a troll job but I doubt it vanishes because it taps something real.
traditionally people used "heterosexual" to mean attraction to the opposite gender/sex, treating sex/gender as the same. (Similar for homosexual). People now draw a distinction between sex and gender. That's fine. While the labels may be newish (like 50 years old but slowly becoming more widespread) they do define different things (though what's meant by gender varies even between second and third wave feminists but we can ignore that for now).
so I now see heterosexual as being usually defined as attraction to the opposite gender.
I've always found this a little questionable. I'm not convinced this is how a majority of people's sexuality works and certainly not how it seems to me that mine works. If I was trying to be precise I'd say my sexual orientation is to people with vaginas. I have a strong preference that is close to an orientation that they be women or agender and not presenting as overly masc. but assuming sexuality is "gender first" with things like genitals being a preference doesn't wing true for me at all.
all of this is relatively unimportant of course since I don't have a wave of trans women who haven't had bottom surgery trying to pressure me into having sex and accusing me of being transphobic for declining. That -is- something I've heard happening in some lesbian spaces where there seems to be more pushing by some trans women on the subject.
anyway I've seen it blowing up a few places, most of the people in it are trolling or just in it for lulz. Some are moderately to significant transphobic. Others are just happy to point out that some of the "stated orthodoxy" of gender strikes them as garbage or to just use its language to argue how they actually feel. And some I suspect are embracing it entirely without guile, just like they happily have friends who are pan sexual and discuss how someone can be bi but not pan, it's the most natural thing in the world to them for there to be a term for straights or gays who have a hard genital requirement for their arousal.
We will see it I suspect it becomes detached from the jokers who started and just gets absorbed as a recognized category.
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Smashingdoozy
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Seems it's already started to be taken seriously unfortunately
0112358
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I'm not sure but that might actually be a good outcome. Or not. The people who think it's a joke don't accept trans people are their stated gender. So they think "superstraight" is actually the same as straight and are just playing a linguistic game using their opponents toolkit. But people who take it seriously are fully accepting various combinations of gender, sex and so on and simply trying to express their orientation in that framework. That doesn't necessarily change the number of people willing to date trans people or invalidate them, any more then having separate terms for "pan" and "bi" does. People have often asked if men who are attracted to women with penises are straight or not, this terminology would actually make that easy to answer (straight but not super straight). I don't know I figure it either dies out or more likely becomes benign. Dating will continue to be hard for trans people but that's not going to entirely change, though the more tolerant people are the more those who are open to dating trans people at least won't feel a need to hide it.
Smashingdoozy
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I feel like you think pan and bi are the same thing. They are similar but there are key differences. Its all just preference, but there's a line. A girl could say "I've only dated black and Hispanic guys" which is fine but if she says "I would never date white guys because they are gross and not manly enough" that's a problem. Having a genital preference is also fine but again there's a line cause not all trans people have their original equipment. Also can't say people who are able to give children because not every bio person is fertile. The way this is, is just plain discrimination. The whole point of it was to make the lgbt community angry.
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0112358
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No I'm assuming pan is a subset of bi (all pan are bi but not all bi people are pan). The phrase "it's all just preference" can get stretched beyond recognition. Do you consider being gay vs straight "just a preference". It so... sure. If not I'd again say for me, my attraction to a specific gender feels more like a preference while my attraction based on physical body is the orientation. And I think that's common (though not universal, and probably more among men). I DO think that when we look at people who tend to go for a certain skin color or hair color, we tend to assume preference. Someone might prefer a certain skin color but if they tell me they've never once found a person or a given color attractive - they're probably racist. Different genitals is not in the same ballpark to me. For me it's foundational to sexual attraction at least for me. Calling that a preference is to basically say sexual orientations don't exist. You made the point about GRS which I'm happy to talk in if you want because I think it is an interesting nuance (and I'm honestly not sure how my attraction would play out though I think in a world where GRS was perfect then that would "do it" for me, so it's a matter of how close are we?). But I might also just be rambling.
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MrOracleInfluencer
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Don't you understand what's going on here?
The vast majority of the population is "cis straight" - essentially what they're calling "super straight" - and that's always been the case. That's the NORM. But some SJWs are attacking these folks because, in this case, they aren't (sexually/romantically) attracted to trans people. Well, trans people have no right to have other people find them attractive. Sure, some people do, and that's fine - no one is trying to prevent that. But neither should the majority be shamed because they don't find trans people sexually attractive, or have any interest in being in a romantic relationship with them. There's nothing transphobic about that - to be transphobic, you would need to be against trans people existing at all, or against them having relationships with people who find them attractive. No one is saying either of those things - but those psycho SJWs are still calling people transphobic.
So, now, the "cis straight" normies are using SJW's own arguments against them. SJWs argue that people can define their own sexuality, and that it must be respected... so these normies are now calling themselves "super straight" and defining that as people who don't want to be in relationships with trans people - only those of the opposite sex who were born that way. And the SJWs are upset that their own rules require them to respect this - which, of course, they don't intend to follow - they just want everyone else to follow their rules when it works against them, not when it works FOR them. That's why the SJWs are losing their minds - they've been out-maneuvered by their own propaganda, and anything they do to try to fight it only undermines their own arguments.
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DrunkenMaster
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Spot on.
amadimal
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you nailed it!
Massageman
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Yup!
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JackSmy
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@MrOracle Yes, I understand, and no offense to you, Good Sir, and thank you for explaining, but who are these people that think that they can LABEL ME, because they choose to label themselves!! HELLL NO!! To THEM: Don't you Dare call me "Cis-Straight" or any other BS label, just because you need to label yourself as something else!! This is just DIVISION, BIAS, and while not "Racism" it is DEFINITELY SEXISM!! If you are LGBTQ or whatever, live your life, and if you choose those labels, that is your choice. Don't YOU DARE LABEL me, or try to CHOOSE, for me, to call me some BS label that you made up, to divide people, and cause more chaos and disagreement!
TheSpaceGnome
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I guess I'm called "super strait" now? I never payed too much attention to that sort of new age gender lingo (I had to google what cis meant), I have no issues with trans people, but I'm not attracted to them, do people really get that upset over the sexual preferences of others?
Smashingdoozy
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Nobody is upset about sexual preferences 😌 it's when you use a preference as a sexuality (which is based on gender) if everyone started making up "sexualities" based on preference there would be millions.
JackSmy
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@TheSpaceGnome Or, like me, you can reject their BS "labeling" of you! Why can't you just be who YOU are, without some BS Label, that some asshat hangs on you, and they don't even know you, just because your sexual preference is different than theirs?
Smashingdoozy
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Its ok if you don't want to label yourself, but tbh society relies on labels to know who a person is. And some people find labels necessary for themselves to feel like they belong somewhere.
Massageman
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@JackSmy Thank you!
JackSmy
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@smashingdoozy And LABELS lead to SEXISM, RACIST, and SEGREGATION!! READ HISTORY!! So are we going back to "Straight-only" schools, and drinking fountains, or will the LGBTQ people all have to wear special symbols, on their clothes, to "Identify" them, as you say? Didn't the Nazis do that, oh, but that is history, and nobody reads, or cares about that. Same mistakes, New Generation!!
Smashingdoozy
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Labels ≠ segregation 🤦🏻♀️
JackSmy
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@smashingdoozy How do you figure? Labels have ALWAYS lead to segregation, sexism, racism, and separation! Give me just one example, when Labeling a group of people was good, and didn't lead to segregation, separation, and judgment.
Smashingdoozy
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society hasn't stopped using labels. We aren't segregated (at least to the same extent as we were historically) are we? Hatred causes segregation. Fear causes segregation. If we stopped using labels everyone would be as confused as a boomer trying to use they/them pronouns.
JackSmy
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@smashingdoozy I think that now, we are MORE DIVIDED than ever, but in different ways, Political ways, maybe, mostly? Ask any of the BLM supporters if they think we are less 'segregated' or 'divided'. I think they would say no! Police shooting, and killing black people, and I hate saying that: "Black" because their skin color shouldn't matter! Why should they be identified as "Black"? I have Native American friends, and they have told me to "just call me by my name". Like I can be talking to someone else, and say Jonny WhiteCloud told me that he knows a great place to hunt for dear, this season, but he doesn't say it is on the "reservation" because we are friends, and he is him, and I am me, and he lives there, and I live where I do! Maybe we like the same lever-action "Cowboy" rifles, to hunt, so we are so much more alike than different. Why do I need to call him "Indian" or "Native", when we are just friends? I can talk to others, and say that I went hunting with Jonny, and he got this Big Buck, and share the steaks, or the sausage we made, together, and they don't even think that Jonny is a Ojibwa Native. Why does it matter? Race, and all the others? Why do we need LABELS? They just divide us, and define how DIFFERENT WE ARE, rather than just being people, and friends. . .
MrOracle
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@JackSmy Understand that the people who came up with THIS label don't really support labels. But because the far left are constantly demonizing them for their normal, biological views, and use labels to do so, they came up with "Super Straight" to use their weapon against them - and they're furious about it because they've been beat at their own game. 99.99% of non-far-left people don't care what race, or sex, or orientation anyone is. Nearly all of them have friends who are minorities, gay, bi, etc. and it isn't an issue. Sure, there are still a (very) small number of actually racist people, but it's the rare exception. The left would have you believe that anyone to the right of AOC is a racist bigot, and they delight in forcing more and more fringe groups into the norm and trying to get everyone to accept them as the "norm" - and then shaming anyone who is actually the norm. The purpose is to gain power and control over the "norm" by being able to "cancel" anyone - and it works. People are afraid to say what they believe, because the left will dox them, pressure their employers to fire them, pressure their families to disown them, and sometimes even come to their homes and attack them. Using this against them is done to try to get at least a few people to wake up and realize that labels aren't so great after all. The left isn't used to their own ideas working against THEM...
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Sarahr123Yoda
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There is only straight, bi and gay. No such thing as super straight because if you’re straight it means you would be repulsed to sleep with the same sex so yes a straight man would not want to sleep with a woman who is not biologically female. Any man who does is BISEXUAL.
As a straight woman I would be repulsed to sleep with a “trans-man” who was born a female just as much as I’d be repulsed to sleep with a female who has not transitioned.
All men I know are straight and they would feel disgusted and physically sick to even think about sleeping with a man or a man who became a woman. They have told me things like “no I would only sleep with a real girl.” So only bisexual men would actually sleep with a trans.
I think there are probably more women who have bisexual tendencies so they might be open to it.
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Sweetener_Xper 7
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Makes sense. The lgbtq community is stupid and hypocritical, they throw the word "homophobic" and "transphobic" like it's nothing. It's okay to have opinions but don't try to force them down people's throats.
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NorthwestRider
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Lol you would love ISIS because they also think the LGBTQ community is stupid
razelove
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@NorthwestRider I didn't hear anyone mention cousin marriage or blowing up ancient history, so you came to the conclusion ISIS and the DNC are that similar all on your own?
AlexanderAnttila
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@razelove Don't mind Rider. He's every bit the liberal extremist as ISIS terrorists are Islamic extremists. His comments and opinions on any given question are predictable in often posing these nonsensical conflations that borders on the imbecilic.
I hope you realize I don't actually listen to these
DrunkAss
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No problem! I just use you as a sort of exemplary foot soldier to express my thoughts about society.
razeloveGuru
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It's fucking brilliant. They've taken the insult feminists throw around "cis-male" and turned it into a sexual identity that should be protected. Seriously, that is genius, take what is, essentially not changing anything, but create a "super" group that simply doesn't want to have sex with transsexuals... to be protected under the same banner as transsexuals, oh I love it.
God do I love it, I guess I can't be super straight any more, because just now I wanted to blow super straight for being so awesomely manipulative, shit.
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harvestExplorer
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I think it's a good idea. LGBT community is hypocritical, ideological propaganda group and this, is going to be a PERFECT proof of that fact.
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Mia-Wallace
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The meme 😂
cheapshotbobGuru
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im straight and everything but even i think thats just as bad as the rainbow flags if you are who you are gay or whatever just know your right and laugh at those who are complaining. i have family who are gay and feel the same way as i do they dont flaunt it and they could care less fr the gay pride stuff its a running joke for them. and i think this super straight this is a running joke and besides the ones going for this are probably gonna be gay in the next month or 2 if they want t be under the same banner as the gay community HA.
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hellionthesagerebornGuru
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Yeah, pretty sure they are fucking with the far left that demands that they date trans women or their bigots. by doing it this way they are now turning the far lefts rules against them by designating their sexuality as distinct and thus making them a protected class that you are not allowed to discriminate against.
Not wanting to date trans people is a preference, not sexuality. its discriminatory, it's a group created to exclude an entire group of people. It would be like creating sexuality that says "I only date white guys"
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hellionthesagereborn
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So your saying that no one is demanding anyone to date anyone while simultaneously stating its discrimination not to date trans? Do you read what you type or. . . ? Also if its discriminatory and exclusionary for a person to say they don't date trans people, is it also discriminatory and exclusionary for a homosexual to state that they don't date the opposite sex? Also saying you don't date biological males is literally a sexual orientation, we use to call it straight or heterosexual. So your also incorrect on that (as well as being extremely hypocritical and bigoted).
Smashingdoozy
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Where did I say it was discrimination not to date trans people? Its discrimination to create a group to purposefully exclude them. Also no it isn't, saying you are attracted to a specific gender (or no gender/ all genders) is fine. Sexuality is about being attracted to a gender not fucking chromosomes or body parts. You can have preferred body parts, you can have a preference to only date cis people, but creating a new sexuality for your preference? No if we did that for every preference there would be MILLIONS of "sexualities".
hellionthesagereborn
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" its discriminatory, it's a group created to exclude an entire group of people. It would be like creating sexuality that says "I only date white guys"". Their, their is the part where you said it was discriminatory. As for the rest of your statement, I cannot tell if your just really oblivious or messing with me. Women are by scientific and biological definition some one with two X chromosomes ergo being attracted to women does in fact make you attracted to some one with two X chromosomes. Its literally the definition. The literal definition of heterosexuality is being attracted to the opposite sex. When you claim to be transgender you do not become the opposite sex, you are still genetically your sex, you still have traits of your sex (you can use surgery to hide them, use hormones to mitigate them but you still have them). So yes being "straight"/heterosexual is a sexual orientation, it does mean you are only attracted to the opposite sex, and yes, your gender is connected to your chromosomes (do you think they are just paper weights or something?). I think you need to really do some research on biology because you are wildly off of the most basic understandings we have on gender and biology. Your DNA determines your gender, period. Their is no exception to this rule, at all, none. If a woman wears a strap on, she doesn't suddenly become a man, if a man gets gender reassignment surgery he is still biologically male, these are immutable facts. Maybe if we get genetic editing down so well you can alter everything about you, maybe then you could have some one born a man become a woman, but until then biology determines sex.
hellionthesagereborn
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Also straight/heterosexual isn't a "new" sexuality, its in fact the oldest sexuality. So lets apply your rational to gay people, do gay people have a preference to be gay or is it a sexuality?
Smashingdoozy
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1% of the population don't have "normal" sex chromosomes. Women can be born XY and men can be born XX along with a few other variations. You don't know what your sex chromosomes are unless you have had a test. You don't know other peoples chromosomes. So no you are not attracted to sex chromosomes. Sex chromosomes are called such because they contribute to your sex development but they don't simply dictate your gender. Just looking at a person sex chromosomes won't tell you exactly about their sex development or their gender identity.
Smashingdoozy
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I think you need to do some research on biology. Funnily enough 2nd grade science didn't teach you everything. Also let's not imply someone should educate themselves when you obviously can't even differentiate between there, their and they're. 🙃
hellionthesagereborn
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Actually I'm pretty well versed in biology and most science (and history and anthropology among many other things). Again, I can provide you sources so you can understand this subject better if you want. As for my spelling, spelling is irrelevant. If F. Scott Fitzgerald, Earnest Hemingway, Jane Austin, Agatha Christie, etc. where able to become some of the most famous authors in history with poor writing, I think I can get away with poor grammer and spelling in a post on a social media site. Also spelling is arbitrary and their was no official spelling for words until the wide distribution of the printing press (around the 1700s). So not particularly concerned with my spelling.
Smashingdoozy
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But you aren't them, you are a random dude on gag trying to school me with 2nd grade biology ignoring the fact there are actually about 6 varieties of sex chromosomes.
hellionthesagereborn
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Intersex isn't sex, its a genetic mutation. Thats like claiming a person with down syndrom is a separate species from humans because they have a extra chromosomes. It also ignores that intersex people are sterile in most cases and thus cannot be considered a separate sex (as they are not, they are an individual with a defect (and your using them to push your agenda which is pretty screwed up on your part).
Smashingdoozy
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Uhhh intersex people generally have xx or xy chromosomes, im not talking about intersex people... 😬
hellionthesagereborn
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Or they have XXY chromosomes etc. hence me assuming your refering to intersex people because other then the standard (and healthy) XY or XX chromosome pairing, the only other ones are the intersex mutations. So what where you refering to if not intersex people?
Sorry when I think of intersex I usually think of people born with both genitalia or a mix of organs etc. I forget that it's an umbrella term for anything not usual. I was specifically talking about Men that are born xx and women xy, they appear "normal" but their genes are the opposite sex. XX Male Syndrome and Swyer syndrome.
hellionthesagereborn
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Like I said, intersex is not a gender its a mutation and a genetic defect (one with serious consequences not just health wise and reproductive wise but also socially). So like I said, their are two genders biologically speaking, just because their are genetic defects doesn't mean their are more then two genders any more then it makes those with them not people.
ChrisMaster69Master
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This is just sad on so many levels.
teens in life have a really shit time deciding their sexuality, often flip flopping between straight, bi, gay and getting confused as fuck.
now these fuckwits will make it even harder for your average teen to explore who they are.
this sits alongside the idea you can cure someone’s sexuality by sending them to a camp (forget the name of them).
Utterly utterly pathetic and a sign of the type of oppression anyone daring to be different can face.
having them within the LGBT community would be like having people ready to expose others for not being ‘normal and meeting their ideal’.
going for a rum and breath
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anylolone
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Well, their sexuality is just as valid. Most people actually are superstraight or supergay. Most people know they are superstraight or supergay even before ever experimenting with anything.
ChrisMaster69
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@anylolone sorry but bollox. Who the fuck has ever said they. Are super gay? I now have a great piss take for some mates now. Super gay, Yes people can do what they want but this bunch of cockwombles are using it to cause trouble. If fuckwits like this start messing young adults heads, then they need put down with a double tap. Bound to be some stupid bloody religious thing behind it,
Smashingdoozy
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The simplest way I can put it is if someone asks you if you like apples or pears you wouldn't say "I like nashi pears" you would say "pears, I prefer nashi pears though" "Are you straight?" "I'm super straight" ✖ "Yes, but I prefer cis women/men" ✔
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anylolone
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Actually by my accounts the person who invented this sexuality is gay, and a friend of mine way long ago. Lol. Because that's literally how he referenced to himself when he said he wouldn't date trans guys or trans girls. But soon you'll hear a shit ton of lesbians say exactly the same thing.
ChrisMaster69
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@anylolone known Kyleroyce long?
anylolone
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Bullshit, "do you prefer brocoly or collard?" "Nah, I prefer kale!" Or in your case it's "I prefer nashi". Which means "From all of these I just like nashi pears". It's called "taking the third option", which means answering either option would be a wrong/incomplete answer, and you don't have to add a qualifier. And actually, nowdays you can't add a qualifier in this aspect or you are labled a transphobe. So much superstraight which just means not nating trans women or trans men and liking people of the oposite sex landed the mother of the fucking guy a relentless barrage of death threats. So, if I was you, I'd guess used to the terminology, it's +90% of people.
"... I think the only reason this was created was to discriminate and be transphobic"
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you lost me. I immediately stop taking anyone seriously as soon as they used that overused-as-fuck buzzword. And no, it's not a "preference" to not literally be homo/pansexual and be a 'straight' man who willingly fucks men.
I'm hyper-straight. I wouldn't even date/sleep with a queer ("bisexual") woman. Gross. But yeah, way to set back already-shaky trans-acceptance by now demanding straight people change their sexuality in order to fuck men in wigs... I mean, "men with gender dysphoria." (And I don't even hate transpeople; shit like this just makes it even harder to take most of them seriously. I meant it when I said this sets back trans-acceptance. What a joke.)
Hyper-straight... Out!
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Smashingdoozy
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I dOnT hAtE tRanS PeOplE *misgenders and makes fun of them*
Mia-WallaceYoda
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I don't know. Guess it's okay. I'm kinda super straight myself.
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modelUN242Explorer
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Tiktok is for retarded dummies.
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Tamera952Yoda
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Weird and lame
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Aurora1010Yoda
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I think it is dumb As dumb as "latinx" first, why are americans trying to change our language, Second if you want gender neutrality just call them latin Why the need for this latinx? The first world problems The latinx took off in your country so there is a possibilty the whole super straight thing will as well I hope it will not spread over to the world as your American trends often do, I doubt this though
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NathanDavisMaster
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Why not purple and grey... or is that flag taken yet?
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Smashingdoozy
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It's on the asexual flag
NathanDavis
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guess I'm looking asexual today
Guanfei
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Also it's pornhub colors, it's kinda a joke on top of the rest.
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NathanDavis
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@Guanfei lol... first I thought the Bengals, then Halloween.
BirdlegsExplorer
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I mean it’s 2021 you have to be accepting these people are so brave for coming out as super straight
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eileen_ruthXper 6
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4chan appropriated it bc they wanted to make trans people look bad, same for the map flag and it's okay to be white. Fuck 4chan. Not being into trans people is okay, also trans people want someone who wants them as well.
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jshm2Master
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Don't be so heterophobic.
Some people just don't want to date frankensteins, and it's their choice.
You must be one of those special stupids that think allowing trans to use the same bathrooms means they must now be seen as equals by everyone and accepted by all.
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TadCuriousMaster
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I don't support this because it concedes the playing field to those who push the "trans" ideology. If you're a heterosexual male and you say you will only date women who were "assigned" female at birth you're playing into the terminology the trans people want everyone to use. Since I don't buy in to the trans ideology I don't concede that men who "feel like" they are women are women. And if you're heterosexual you're not going to be sexually/romantically attracted to those individuals.
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MiristheissMaster
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I'd say it is a result of all of the changes in the last 10 years. Straight used to mean straight... I guess since society has come up with 20 ways to classify yourself and sexuality... a clarification of straight had to be made.
Straight used to mean men liked women and women like men. Since now society is trying to change what a man and woman means... this term clarifies what people you are sexually attracted to.
My opinion? I couldn't care less.
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supercutebuttGuru
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I don't believe a person waving that flag could resist Selena Gomez with a penis. I feel they would drop to their knees as soon as she walked that engorged peen into the room. 100%. :)
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ItsTheNephilimMaster
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Hilarious.
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CitizenkirkGuru
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I think it belongs in the same place that metrosexual matriculated from and should return to because
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