Since when has incest become so normal?

First of all let me say, that I think myself to be quite liberal and open minded, whatever my views I think everyone deserves to be treated equally, and people should hate the action not the person. I think people are always capable of changing and becoming better people and it's never too late. I try not judge and understand as best as I can. I'll graduate as a doctor in a few years (hopefully!) and I've seen people from all walks of life, with dispositions that I cannot for the life of me understand but one thing I cannot understand is incest. Incest and it's acception. Ok I get the odd exception. I accept people suffering from OS (objectum sexualism) even though I cannot understand people who claim to be in love with objects as a person would be with another person. but what is this rise in acceptance of incest? when has his been OK? when as society been told to accept this? Why are people who find it disgusting and wrong told they are "senseless" and "robotic" and are only repeating what society has told us? Please someone explain to me why I should be understanding and accepting of incest? My limit is brothers and sisters who have lived apart, never met and suddenly fall for each other. but fathers and daughters? what is the reasoning? I'm a medic. spare me the emotional crap. give me some solid scientific basis for this. am I alone in my disgust for this growing trend and acceptance?
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by the logic of people who agree with incest, I have a question to ask everyone. I feel like murdering someone. killing them. lots of other people have done it. I feel like doing it. I don't really care about the consequences. so its normal and ok right?
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  • Well, for me we need to firstly draw a very important distinction.

    1: Adult consensual incest

    2: Abusive sexual assault (incest with minors)

    Under no circumstances do I agree with the No. 2. That is, any incest on a minor is sexual assault and any victims of this I give my greatest sympathy to. I do, however, make a strong distinction between that and adult consensual incest.

    For me, No. 1 is a 'victimless' crime that. Whilst I personally wouldn't wish for it, I can't raise objections to it after consideration.

    1: Morally:

    I don't see anything morally wrong with it, as it does no harm to anyone. You could argue that it does harm emotionally to their families, but what of the emotional harm to the couple you choose to break up (and at the moment, jail).

    2: Birth defects:

    I have read different statistics concerning the rate of birth defects from incest, however it does appear to be a higher level. However, there are many things that can cause birth defects. Smoking, for instance, whilst pregnant can increase birth defects. Should we make a law against smoking whilst pregnant? How about drinking alcohol? Taking drugs? Being over a certain age? Having known hereditary diseases in your family? What about cancer?

    Hypothetically, I would decriminalise incest, and have 'genetic counselling' available to incest couples with an urge not to have children (have a donor/adopt instead). However, I don't think it should be legally enforced, because I think it creates double standards.

    3: Religion:

    Regardless of my personal beliefs, I support true secularism. In that sense, I don't think religion should play a role in laws.

    Some people may not agree with my moral or defect reasoning. That's personal opinion, but I do feel sorry for incestuous couples that can find themselves in jail because of who they fell in love with.

  • I'VE NEVER heard of anyone being attracted to their immediate family... I agree in those rare cases environment, circumstance and condition lead the way in giving in to regrettable temporary temptations. But try to picture it, gross right? Good! Even if your sister, or brother, or mom or dad is very attractive, you're not attracted to them. You have what they have, they are YOU and you already have their love so why would you want something you already have? No one likes themselves, that's why they don't like their family, they want other people to like them to fill their insecurities... But it is pretty normal to be attracted to a relative though (cousin, aunt, etc). But even if your auntie came onto you and you had sex with her; she is probably unstable and on heavy medication and you'll go through life with psychologic trauma and avoid family get-togethers in the future... Now it is always fascinating/funny to hear stories/fantasies about other people's families and to watch role-playing p*rn centered around this—but bad for pre-teens and young kids to be exposed to... At some point in our lives we need to stop letting XXX videos control us and create the type of society we want to live in... I would be very happy if congress made it a priority to lock-down the p*rn industry and make it almost impossible for children to be exposed to all this filth, trash, garbage... It's bad.

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  • Science? I don't know do you believe in Freud? I sure as hell don't. it's like... a f***ed up Santa...

    I don't know if you consider psychology "emotional crap". To me social science is science... very connected with the physical brain in most cases.

    The reasons why incest is often illegal and taboo are obvious. It's not beneficial to the gene pool.

    But then, why are people homosexual? Why do people have fetishes for animals, the weak, children? These are all counter-productive to our survival and genetics, in theory. Though some are considered less harmful and are more widely accepted than others.

    So you question should not just be about incest, though one of the most taboo and disturbing sexual deviations, but why any sexual deviations exist.

    Based on my studies in psychology so far, I seem to think these things can have to do with development and physiology of the brain, as well as societal/environmental/social factors in some cases. You'll only find theories though, you'll never find an answer and neither does society want there to be an answer, that would almost make some things legitimate and acceptable.

    • They aren't just "considered" less harmful. They are objectively less harmful. Two homosexuals having sex does not hurt anybody. A grown woman having sex with a young boy, even if it's consensual, hurts the young boy. A human male having sex with a horse hurts the horse, and there's no way of telling whether or not it's consensual. Incest is bad because when two people who are related have children, they are usually genetically f***ed up.

    • In my opinion you are very right rainbows, but people have different logic than I and I'm not here to change their minds, I'm here to present what's logical and most likely factual. I also consider that some people viewing this may have a disorder or be sexual deviants and have trouble controlling it, and I'm not here to tell them they are wrong evil or f***ed up, that attitude is counter-productive to those who would benefit from getting help and moving on to a happier life within society.

  • you are absolutely not alone. and I'm very glad you brought up this question. my belief is that incest is becoming and all to much of an upcoming trend in the newer generations (though ill admit to being a part of a younger generation). I feel like sex in general is on the rise from what once was limited to marriage to a now casual nature. don't get me wrong in saying this because I for one believe in premarital sex. I'm just merely saying that our society has been experiencing massive changes in the area of relationships and intimacy. it seems that what has been happening for years is old news and people go searching for newer and more forbidden things. its human nature. then, we have those extremists who go towards incest. and that's precisely what I think of people who accept this for what it is. extremists. either that or they are perverts. its going against all scientific and medical advice. people are fully aware of the consequences of incestuous actions. what blows my mind is that, despite the advice and knowledge of the consequences, it still occurs.

    • I don't think that incest is becoming and all to much of a NEW upcoming trend. I think it was way more frequent in the 18th century and all centuries before. Back then there were no private bedrooms, not even private beds for poor people: a whole household might share a bed. And then things were more likely to happen.

  • I've definitely been noticing the same thing, and have had more than a few guys want to cyber role play with me with an incest role... ew. First of all, I don't RP, and second, even if I did, that's crossing a line. Incest is gross, plain and simple. So is bestiality (and no, I haven't gotten my dog to lick my pussy. That's sick). I'm horrified that incest porn and everything is becoming more acceptable. How awful for actual incest victims - it diminishes the seriousness of their traumatic ordeal. Same with rape porn. There are lots of sick f***s out there. Personally, I stick with the regular one girl, one guy porn. Nothing freaky, maybe a litlle anal from time to time. Call me boring, but I happen to like the idea of vanilla sex.

    • Lmao I’m the same

    • i think we should focus on the women who willfully participate in these pornographic videos of incest and bestiality. everyone wants to demonize the men, but someone is providing this content to them. who is worse? the guy who is watching the girl have sex with a horse? or the girl having sex with a horse? you can try to make the case that if women didn't have an audience then they wouldn't do it... but i reject that. "if you build it, they will come." producing the content first creates an audience where once there was none. it also popularizes it, when perhaps it might have been restricted to the dark recesses of a person's mind, afraid to be let loose. but now it's allowed to come out. if a guy sees a girl in the video having sex with her son, then he may want to reenact the scene. to a guy- he's not really thinking about incest. he's not thinking about having sex with HIS mom. he's just thinking about this beautiful girl who's doing naughty things on the other side of the camera. when he orgasms, it creates a recall circuit in his memory. it's just like how drug users chase the magic of that FIRST high. look up ASMR. it's becoming a thing. there's a girl that goes by Xev Bellringer. she pushes incest fantasies using ASMR techniques. simulating oral sex acts and other things without actually showing the act itself. this type of thing is allowed on places like twitch and youtube where young boys can get normalized to it.

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  • Um, I don't agree with it, but I don't think that's a very fair comparison. Incest only hurts other people children are conceived as a result of it, and murder always hurts other people.

    • Read my above comment. it could be anything that is inherently accepted as wrong. a crime in the majority of the world and socially unacceptable. I think to produce an innocent child as a result of sexual experimentation and young available lust is can be just as disastrous. death isn't the worst thing that can happen to a person. living and suffering can sometimes be worse.

  • Um, did I miss something? What the hell are you talking about? It absolutely has NOT become accepted and normal.

    • Really? I take it you haven't taken any time to wander around some porn sites then. Some of the things that come up, wow. There's a sub-culture for everything.

    • Um, just because there's porn of it doesn't mean that it's accepted at all.

    • Just read some of the guys responses. search some of the questions on this site and you'd be surprised at how many people, ironically on "anonymous", say it should be socially accepted, and that it's each to their own.

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  • Sounds like some hillbilly enclave still exists where the guys say "Fuck your sister, I incest!"

  • it started with me after my mother passed away and my father was all alone. i'd take dinner to him on Friday nights and we'd usually open a bottle of wine. we started having conversations over dinner and wine and not really relating anymore like a father/daughter. more details on request

  • Who cares what's normal and ok. You can do it if you want to. Just be prepared to spend the next few decades at club Fed.

    • No I can't do it if I want because I choose to live in a society with law and order. if anyone has a problem with their social norms and laws they should get their ass out of their and live in a rain forest by themselves. you choose to live in a state governed by law and you will obey or face consequences. welcome to society. if you prefer caveman ways then off you go and be free and everyone can do what they like, but get the hell out of our society.

    • I don't think you understand how free you really are. You constrain yourself with made-up morals, without going through the process of understanding why they important. You should do the homework yourself one day, it's well worth it to become a free-thinking individual rather than a herd animal.

    • I'm free thinking, but every society has laws to protect its people. if you do not understand the value of this you should take your free thinking somewhere else. no one is telling you how to choose your morals, but if you live in a society, you obey the law or face the consequences without complaint. end of.

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  • Anyway what I read into this question is an over-eagerness to judge people you know nothing about.

    I myself find the idea of incest horrible beyond all reckoning but I don't know anything about being a hillbilly in Alabama. If that's what works for them, God bless 'em.

    • I don't find the people disgusting, I find the act disgusting. there is no loss in number of available men and women in the world, why would you resort to your brother or sister? true love? give me a break. if it was true love why wouldn't you cut the sex out and have a platonic relationships as a lot of couples do in the beginning? and if its about the sex then again I find it disgusting that you would forever damage a beautiful brother/sister relationship for a few kicks.

    • I don't claim to understand the psychodynamics of an incestuous relationship but if you wanted to learn more there's always Wikipedia, it may help.

    • I pity anyone who turns to wikipedia to understand "psychodynamics" of such a thing.

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  • Just because you are disgusted by the idea of doing any family members, it doesn't mean everyone else should be.

    • It kind of does. They should be, instinctively, opposed to it because it is harmful to their gene pool.

    • Well if it was so wrong why would anyone do it? I mean, drinking paint is patently harmful. And no one does it. If there wasn't ANY upside to incest then it wouldn't happen. But it does happen, so there must be something to recommend it. To a small minority.

    • Because their brains are wired wrong. There are people who compulsively eat things that are inedible, and they often die as a result of it. Their brains are also screwed up. It's like homosexuality, except that homosexuality is not harmful, at all, and these other things are.

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  • I don't think it has become normal but I think since the arrival off the internet we have found it is much more prolific than we knew before. the internet as with many topics has allowed people to talk about thing they would never otherwise talk about.

  • Incest is wrong in my books, plain and simple. Yes, I am hearing more about it on the net, but odds are pretty high that those whp talk about it don't actually practice it. It's one thin to type something, another thing to actually sleep with your relative.

  • let me play devil's advocate... and I AM NOT condoning incest!! I just want to know when it became UNacceptable... it use to be very common among our ancestors and their ancestors etc. is there really a rise in acceptance? I haven't heard of that trend. It probably happens secretly (consensually in many cases probably) in ways that we don't know about... I can't say if it's right or wrong, I guess. BUT I cannot condone it. not from my standpoint!

  • I can tell you from experience that sexual abuse plays a big part in this discussion. Being sexually abused rewires the mind in ways that are hard for regular people to understand. And once it occurs in families, its hard to break the chain. In regards to what you find acceptable, I met a gal once online whose parents were divorced and she grew up never knowing her brother. After they did meet, they ended up bed together until they got caught by their mother. So that does happen.

  • This is sick and you should never have sex with family! This is sick and the people doing this should be forced to stop this behavior!

    • I think you'll find that enforcing this would be impossible.

  • It has? That is really creepy. They are starting to do movies on it though (foreign ones) so I guess it might be becoming acceptable which is crazy to me.

  • I have actually never Not been in a non consensual incestuous relationship. I have two twin daughters with my daughter All genetic testing is normal

  • It hasn't

  • It's always been here. Now it's just coming out.

  • Because my sister is hot.

  • It seems to be a favorite fantasy for many on Gag. There seems to be many of us lol.

  • Since my aunty let me insider her

  • As Rosieeebaby said, They're going against all medical and scientific advice to achieve a pleasure found only by doing what is taboo. Everything we as decent people deem sick and wrong. I won't speak for why they do it as individuals because I don't know any of them in real life. But more and more people seem to look to history as well as pointing fingers to justify their lifestyle.

    For example, these people would tell you that royal families of egypt used to have sexual relations with each other to keep the royal bloodline "pure" a VERY long time ago. They may also use references from questionable sources of historical information such as the story of Adam and Eve's offspring. It's questionable to me whether these events even happened, but these people still believe them. This is a fairly common excuse I've heard when this debate came up before.

    Even if taboos WERE considered acceptable then, it doesn't mean they are acceptable by law. And it would be foolish to think these acts do not have dire consequences.

    Short version: Misconceptions about yesterday may also be used to justify tomorrow's disaster.

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