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Sexual Health I really dislike these types of women, but I’m open to hearing their reasonings, context, and specifics to why they are the way that they are.
It may make me feel differently about their situation.
I’ve tried to honestly tell myself why I really do dislike these types of women and I’ve always come to one main reason and that is OBJECTIFICATION.
I just don’t like feeling like a number or object, which is almost bound to happen if a woman has been with many men before I.
She even won’t be able to help herself think of me as another number or object. If we were to have sex, it’s out of her control to compare me to or think of all her past partners.
I’ve tried telling myself if it was insecurity, but I truly do not believe it is a primary factor, although perhaps it is a small factor.
The other issues besides feeling like a number of object are the pair bonding issues, diseases carried, etc.
Pair bonding, in this case, refers to the erosion of the love-feeling mechanisms within the brain due to certain over stimulation, most likely over stimulation of having been with one person, after another, after another, and so forth. It may prevent lack of subsequent bonding for future partners one meets and may further cause one to see future/subsequent partners more like a number or object.
I don’t want a whore, slut, or hoe that has given sex easy to many men. I don’t want a woman that many men have had sex with, why would I? Why would any self-respecting man want such a thing? Why would any self-respecting woman do this?
My opinion? These men are most likely not high quality and don’t have firm morals, beliefs, principles, etc. They take whatever easy prey that they can bed with. The women, on the other hand, most likely have other preexisting conditions. Perhaps it’s something biological mixed in with traumatic past events, abusive partners/partners, drugs, etc. I don’t think it’s simply “liking sex.”
Am I unreasonable in my strong dislike of whores, sluts, or hoes?
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How I’m defining these three terms: Whore, slut, or hoe: a woman who has partook in many instances of casual or indiscriminate sexual encounters. NOT a woman who dresses a certain way NOT a woman who sends nude pics NOT a sexual/nude cam model
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I’ve NEVER heard of a reason why being a whore, slut, or hoe is a GOOD thing. Most people have said something like “she just likes sex” or “it’s her choice.” It’s never a logical, in-depth, or drawn out reason like I’ve posed above. People want to believe this is right for some reason, when it’s clearly not right and not healthy. in my opinion, it doesn’t even spawn from right or healthy origins or reasons.
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27 43You do you. But if i can get easy sex from a whore (or a woman) just by answering yes to her question "let's have sex?" I'll surely take up that offer. Unless she's fat or cut her hair short.
i for example don't understand how people follow religions the same way you don't understand why any high quality man would have sex with whores. It's like a second Hunger for us and sex is healthy. So sometimes it's ok to leave things in the area of not understanding.
Sorry, everyone. The last paragraph in my comment was copied & pasted and I forgot to delete it. That was my bad.
Sorry again! The above was supposed to be a reply to @Archiz !! Today is not my day.
I suggest it is unreasonable to assign generic types to people. (I acknowledge categorisation is how we understand the world.) Surely you need to get to know the individual?
I agree that a woman with many partners is likely to have trust issues (mainly because of all the bastards who have mistreated her). We live in a society where sex is readilly available. Women have a difficult line to tread. If they put out too easily, they are deemed sluts, but if they play hard to get they get dropped, because guys move on to an easier target. The problem is more about the social changes that have misled women into thinking equality is about being "laddish" and having sex without the emotional commitment they would actually find fulfilling.
No, you are not. I dislike them too. In my country they show themselves up as degraded, gutter-class trash, and the only thing that they have to offer, depreciates quickly through use.
Most of what you said sounds very unreasonable to me.
I’m going to ask why... but I don’t think I will get a good answer. I’ve been as reasonable as I can, but obviously I’ve not hidden my detest for these women.
Okay.
So, you don’t really have anything to say as to why I’m unreasonable? You’re just blabbing just to blab? Lol, why?
It's clear that your "reasoning" comes from nothing but pure emotion (anger and disgust). Nothing rational about it. You try to rationalize an emotion so you can tell yourself and others that you have rational reasons and are not just disgusted by it because of some personal experiences. It's not working.
You didn’t read shit then... Anger and disgust are in there, yes, but the argument is actually based in science and evidence. Look up the words “pair-bonding” Look up the causes for early, indiscriminate sex and you’ll see poor peers, drug abuse, etc. I’ve even said it’s not healthy for men. I’ve also said I’m open to hearing out why someone does what they do.. their point of view. I’m also specific when it comes to how I define “whore,” “slut,” and “hoe.” Next time, if you’re going to call someone unreasonable, provide more than just saying it’s anger and disgust. Like I said, anger and disgust are there but you seem to conveniently forget the other points I’ve brought up...
Relax, try not to react so emotional to everything. I'll respond in more detail later when I get to it, ifyou want. In the meantime don't wet your pants in anticipation. So much anger, tsk tsk.
I prefer the word “passion” instead of anger. More classy
I bet you say the same thing about Feminists. That they're "passionate", not angry and emotional. Right?
Depends on what they say and how they say it. There’s a lot of what they say that’s reasonable and logical.
You passed the first test, young padawan.
Thank you master. I’m ready for a Sith now.
"I just don’t like feeling like a number or object, which is almost bound to happen if a woman has been with many men before I." - I just don't see how that would be true for everyone. Is it possible that some might feel that way? Sure. But you saying this is "bound to happen" is just very far from reality. And I consider myself to have a lot of personal experience in that area. "If we were to have sex, it’s out of her control to compare me to or think of all her past partners." - Okay, but let's say she's had three serious relationships before you. She'd obviously compare you to those three. We all compare, whether that's deliberate or not. So your issue here is only that someone who had many sexual partners will have... more to compare you with? But then I'm asking you - why is that a reason to despise her? The only thing that this tells me is that the more past partners she's had, the more insecure it makes you about yourself. That's not her fault though. I just don't see what she's done wrong in regards to this point. "I’ve tried telling myself if it was insecurity, but I truly do not believe it is a primary factor, although perhaps it is a small factor." - If it's not, you'd have to give me a very good alternative explanation.
"The other issues besides feeling like a number of object are the pair bonding issues, diseases carried, etc." - The issue with diseases is in general a legitimate concern, of course. But it's also again putting way too many different things in one and the same box. Your whole definition of "whores" (those are the ones that do it for money, by the way.) and "sluts" is already very broad. What you seem to not realize or acknowledge, is that you can absolutely have casual sex in a responsible way. I've had plenty of casual sex in my past and I've rarely encountered a woman there who didn't insist on using protection when we went on to have intercourse. See that's one of my main issues with slut-shamers - they just don't know anything about what's really going on out there and put everyone in the same box. There's always such and such. "Pair bonding, in this case, refers to the erosion of the love-feeling mechanisms within the brain due to certain over stimulation, most likely over stimulation of having been with one person, after another, after another, and so forth. It may prevent lack of subsequent bonding for future partners one meets and may further cause one to see future/subsequent partners more like a number or object." - Now that's just a lot of projection there. I'm sure this is true for you, if you feel that way, and it's certainly true for many people out there. But it's definitely not true for everyone. Not even close to everyone. Neither men nor women. You're again generalizing and projecting way too much.
- Why not? What does any of this have to do with self-respect? Why does enjoying your sex life mean having less self-respect to you? Why would my partner's past sex life, if it was all between consensual adults, say anything about my self-respect? You haven't given any rational reason to that. You just used personal suppositions as your reasoning, which makes it circular reasoning. Maybe you can elaborate on why your suppositions (about self-respect) are rational and valid? "My opinion? These men are most likely not high quality and don’t have firm morals, beliefs, principles, etc." - That's indeed just your opinion. Again generalizing a lot, putting everyone in the same neat box, too lazy to differentiate. For every generalization you make, I can give you several real life examples that say otherwise. "The women, on the other hand, most likely have other preexisting conditions. Perhaps it’s something biological mixed in with traumatic past events, abusive partners/partners, drugs, etc." - That's merely a very convenient speculation of yours. Now you're just actively looking for explanations that would give your opinion some rational reasoning. A lot of confirmation bias here. I once again can speak from years of experience in this regard, that your speculation is absolutely not generally true. Again, surely true for some or even many, but far from most. There's such, and such, and such. Learn to differentiate, learn to acknowledge and accept that people are different. It's hard at first, I've struggled with this too in the past. But there's a point where you realize that by dropping all this intellectually lazy stereotyping and generalizing, and instead judging people as individuals, you'll see things much clearer and will learn a lot about yourself as well.
"I don’t think it’s simply “liking sex."" - You may not think that, and that's clearly because you don't WANT to think that (and please, be so honest with me and yourself and not deny that now), but I can assure you that's usually the nr. 1 reason. Humans love sex. Men love sex. Women love sex. And a lot of sexual behavior that we think isn't in women's "nature", absolutely is, and we only think that because for millenia women simply weren't allowed to express those urges. I can 100% assure you that the world is full of women who genuinely just want to fuck, want to please their sexual urges, regardless of any feelings for the sexual partner at hand. Exactly like a horny guy who just wants to bang a chick. Exactly the same. The world is full of them. And that's totally fine.
It's easy to use "biology" to put men and women in neat little boxes that explain how they "should" behave and feel and if they don't, then there's something "wrong" with them. But that's not only a very incorrect application and usually misinterpretaion of human biology and psychology, but also what is called the "natural fallacy". And here's the big surprise now - I'm a highschool biology and psychology teacher (which obviously includes sex-ed), so I think I have a bit of an idea of what I'm talking about. (To be fair though, I'm currently only teaching biology, not psychology).
Would you marry a slut?
@Милашка Read my replies, then you'll know.
@MountAverage Everyone likes sex. I like sex. Women like sex. But context matters. If you’re a biology teacher, you know why women are on average pickier/more selective in choosing their mates and why men are a lot less pickier. This is a proven fact. Women risk a lot during sex, one of which is pregnancy. A man can father many children in his life, in theory, but a woman cannot even mother a sliver of the man’s potential because that’s 9 months of pregnancy for each child. Too much of a toll on a woman’s body. Also impractical. Women also ovulate, so there’s a time where they feel at their peak when it comes to sexual interest/horniness. Men have no such thing. All of this is to say that the vast majority of women do not act in an indiscriminate manner with many different men. THIS is NOT just liking sex. This is something else and the literature is out on this. You can type in “negatives of indiscriminate sex,” or “is casual sex with many different people healthy,” etc. Sex is perfectly fine, but there’s a point where it can be unhealthy, impractical, and extremely dangerous for women AND men.
@MountAverage I don’t understand where our disagreement is at. I agree we all like sex. I’m just saying that context matters and all sexual behavior is not healthy and can have detriments Yes, you can have literally a hundred personal anecdotes that disprove me, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Likewise, I can have hundreds of flat earth sympathizes, a thousand even, and it wouldn’t matter for shit.
"Everyone likes sex. I like sex. Women like sex. But context matters." - What is the context then? Explain it to me please. You said you think it's rather rare that it's because they like sex. I'm telling you you're dead wrong here. But here's the thing - that's not even my main issue with that argument. My main issue is that you're putting them all in one and the same box regardless. I don't know if you're not capable of differentiating or simply to lazy to do it. But you're not doing it and makes your argument fall apart. "If you’re a biology teacher, you know why women are on average pickier/more selective in choosing their mates and why men are a lot less pickier. This is a proven fact." - Yes, I know better about thing's like Bateman's principle than you do. But I also know better than you how to interpret these phenomena, but especially also which applications of them do and don't make practical or logical sense. You, just like most biology-laymen, have this thing where you always conveniently apply these facts in whatever way to suit your narrative. Science doesn't care about your or my narrative. Biology (especially evolutionary biology) is a science that is being misused like no other science. "Women also ovulate, so there’s a time where they feel at their peak when it comes to sexual interest/horniness." - It's funny how you, a layman, feel like you should explain these things to a biology teacher. Again, you don't know how to apply these facts to real life problems. And your comment about women's horniness doesn't just demonstrate that, but also demonstrates that you're apparently generally very inexperienced with women on a personal level. I'm telling you both from professional knowledge and personal dating experiences of 15 years - you're clueless about women's horniness.
"Men have no such thing." - That is true. But that's also entirely irrelevant. "All of this is to say that the vast majority of women do not act in an indiscriminate manner with many different men." - Where? In the US? Europe? The whole world? And even if that's generally true - you're once again completely disregarding social (and legal) pressure throughout all of human history. One thing I've learned when studying natural sciences is it's almost exclusively science-laymen who think it's rational to ignore the undeniably gigantic impact that society and culture has on human behavior and instead try to explain everything with nothing but hard science facts. Not once have a come across a single actual biologist who thought that way. They all emphasize social and cultural impact as well. "THIS is NOT just liking sex. This is something else and the literature is out on this." - No one said it's necessarily "just" liking sex. But it 100% is the one major driving force for most people.
"Sex is perfectly fine, but there’s a point where it can be unhealthy, impractical, and extremely dangerous for women AND men." - There's nothing in this world that can't become unhealthy at a certain point, amount, or frequency. No one would think sex is an exception. ESPECIALLY sex can be unhealthy. That's not the issue I have with your arguments. The issue is that where you set that point, what your reasoning is for where you set it, and how you think where you set it is universal and equal for all, when this couldn't be further from the truth. "I don’t understand where our disagreement is at." - It's interesting. We don't disagree all that much indeed. We seem to agree on a lot of basics, the main issue I have with your arguments is your misinterpretations and misapplications of these basics. But even more so your refusal (or incapablity) to differentiate. Generalizations have their legitimacy in a lot of fields, but definitely not the way you're using them here. With the basics you agree on, you could just go ahead and say "people who who have or had casual sex who x) y) z) etc. applies to are the ones I have and issue with, because of a) b) c) etc. and people who have casual sex who those things don't apply to are fine". But you don't do that. You say "I don't care if you're a healthy, responsible person who just enjoys sex with other consenting adults and just have fun because it makes you happy, I'll lump you in with the EEEVIL SLUUUTS". It's just extremely ignorant.
"I’m just saying that context matters and all sexual behavior is not healthy and can have detriments" - I agree with that, in general. But again, your application of that is beyond flawed. "Yes, you can have literally a hundred personal anecdotes that disprove me, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong." - Well first of, you just contradicted yourself. If I disprove you, that means you're wrong. It's gotta be either or. But this is not about my personal anecdotes disproving any statistics. Not at all. This is about you making statements and claims that are practically close to absolutes and actually forming a very very generalized opinion with basically zero differentiation. And to disprove THAT - my and other people personal experiences absolutely are enough. Because you're disregarding so many things here, just so you can have this convenient absolute and universal disdain for people who have/had casual sex. And you need that so you can justify shaming and insulting them. Whether they've done anything wrong or not. You don't care. And that's where you lose me. Likewise, I can have hundreds of flat earth sympathizes, a thousand even, and it wouldn’t matter for shit.
@MountAverage I’ll comment later lol.
"Likewise, I can have hundreds of flat earth sympathizes, a thousand even, and it wouldn’t matter for shit." - Not sure what you're trying to say here. I think you and I both agree on basic scientifc facts. Unlike Flat Earthers. Also, I never claimed being right because I have a lot of people agreeing with me. In fact, I know that (depending on culture, but definitely world wide) most people would not just agree with you but actually consider you way too soft on promiscuity. But as you said, that wouldn't matter for shit.
Take your time!
So you'd marry a woman whom other men saw worthy only for her holes? Simp
@Милашка You don't strike me as someone with whom I can have a rational discussion with about this, based on your comments in this thread, but I'll reply anyway. If she has a history of choosing bad partners, as in, men who were toxic or otherwise were bad for her, and she seems like she hasn't improved, then no. But that has nothing to do with the QUANTITY of her sexual partners but only with the QUALITY of her sexual partners. Would I be with a woman who's had many sexual partners before me? Have before and would again, yes. In fact, most women I dated had what you would probably consider "many" partners. I appreciate sexual experience, especially at my age.
I mean if men see her only for fucking then would you marry such a woman. Ok you laready asnwered that yes you would.
@Милашка Why would I care what other men think about my future wife?
@MountAverage Have you read anything I’ve written? Perhaps to a small extent or you’re not truly understanding me, intentionally or unintentionally. Either way, all I’ve been saying is that a woman who has had many casual/indiscriminate sexual encounters is a woman who most likely simply just “likes sex,” rather, a woman who possesses certain characteristics that stem from abusive parents, abusive partners, alcoholism, drug abuse, rape, etc. That’s it. I’ve even said that I’m open to hearing out people’s personal take and make a more specific determination after listening. I’ve also said it’s not healthy for men to engage in similar behavior, BUT, the unhealthiness is not 50/50. I’ve also brought biology into this, saying women are extremely selective and do not have a mating strategy to procure and mate with many men because of pregnancy taking so long. Men don’t get pregnant, therefore men can father many more children than women, by far. Women choose based on a number of criteria, the man that she will bed. This has been extensively researched I’d imagine. Competition and dominance hierarchies where the topmost man is the most ideal to women in theory. Again, I’ve never said that liking sex means you’re evil. I love sex maybe even more so than the average man. I’m just context is important. Rape shares all the hallmarks of sex in almost every way, but it’s evil just because the intention is demonic. Context. Sex via rape: bad, no woman wants Sex with a complete stranger: barely any woman wants Sex with loving & trusting partner: most women find favorably Context
Wouldn't you care that other men thought of her as a sex object because she acted like a sex object? If no then you're a simp
"Have you read anything I’ve written?" - I'm sure you've read my replies and have seen that've been quoting most of what you say and respond directly to it. So yes, I'm reading everything you're writing and adressing almost all of it. I can't really say the same about you though. "Either way, all I’ve been saying is that a woman who has had many casual/indiscriminate sexual encounters is a woman who most likely simply just “likes sex,” rather, a woman who possesses certain characteristics that stem from abusive parents, abusive partners, alcoholism, drug abuse, rape, etc." - That is not true. It is true that promiscuous behavior is statistically more prevalent among people with certain issues, but not the oher way around. That's a false implication that I hear a lot. But even if so, that's statistics. We're not talking about statistics, are we? We're talking about how you feel about individual people that have casual sex. "I’ve even said that I’m open to hearing out people’s personal take and make a more specific determination after listening." - Great! "I’ve also said it’s not healthy for men to engage in similar behavior, BUT, the unhealthiness is not 50/50." - That too might be true statistically (although I'd have to see actual studies on this before I assume it to be true), but it's again not really relevant to your judgement of people you actually meet in your life.
"I’ve also brought biology into this, saying women are extremely selective and do not have a mating strategy to procure and mate with many men because of pregnancy taking so long." - Dude. I've adressed your biological arguments AT LENGTH. Like, several paragraphs long I explained you what you got right and what you got wrong about biology. Yet YOU accuse ME of not reading what you write? Excuse me? Go back to my earlier replies about your biological arguments if you haven't seen them. "Women choose based on a number of criteria, the man that she will bed. This has been extensively researched I’d imagine." - In the animal world (yes, including humans) this is called Bateman's principle. I've adressed this in my last responses. Go read them and don't accuse ME of not reading your replies. Unbelievable... "Again, I’ve never said that liking sex means you’re evil. I love sex maybe even more so than the average man." - I didn't say you think that. "Rape shares all the hallmarks of sex in almost every way, but it’s evil just because the intention is demonic." - True. But rape is not about sex but about power, dominance, and violence. Sex is only the means to and end here. Every psychologist will tell you that. But otherwise I completely agree - depending on context, sex can be used for horrible things!
"Sex with a complete stranger: barely any woman wants Sex with loving & trusting partner: most women find favorably" - That's simply not true, whether you want to accept that or not. I too have grown up in a society that taught me to believe almost all women are like that. I eventually learned (both from years and years of personal experience and through my studies and work) that this is nonsense. Yes, overall the tendency you've described is more prevalent among women than men. But you have no idea how many women are "exceptions" to that. I'm using quotes because it's too many. And again you're entirely disregarding social and cultural influence. You have no idea what women ACTUALLY want once social pressure is off them. The more individual freedom a society allows, the more women show that they're fine with casual sex. I'm sorry, but you're simply clueless about that.
@Милашка Why exactly would I care about that? Why would I let other people influence my relationship? Are you so dependent on what other people think of your partner? The opinions of random strangers? Then I pity you, but especially your partner. The only thing that matters to me is what I think about my partner, not what random people think of her.
You don't care that those men treated her as a sex object.
only sluts arte fine with casual sex because that's what they deserve
@Милашка I'm sorry, but neither am I willing to steep down to your primitive level of judgmental attitude, nor do I think is there any chance of having a rational and fruitful discussion with you. You're just here to vomit your hatfulness in everybody's face. Have a nice life.
@MountAverage Yes, but many polls have asked women whether or not they regretted their casual sex encounters, then compared that to what men answered and you want to know what the sexes said? Well, the majority of women actually regretted their encounters and the majority of men did not. Also, you’ll find that the majority of women, when asked about if they would sleep with a stranger versus men asked about whether they would sleep with a stranger, almost all women said “no” and the majority of men favored such a thing. This is context^ Do women like sex? Yes, but not with a random stranger. I’m sure you can find millions of women who are into casual sex, hooking up, and more but even then I would wager that these women were looking for something else but were deceived by men, don’t represent the majority of women, etc. I’m not saying a lot of women do not engage in this behavior. I’m just saying, whatever the number is, to my knowledge, it’s not representative of the women who go the other way. I think we’re just doomed to disagree on this forever, so I’m fine with that. I’ve defined what “whore,” “slut,” and “ho” means to me and have written why I don’t like them and why these behaviors aren’t good for them, future partners, and even society. I’ve used my personal opinion, surface level understanding of biology, etc. Some, despite all of this, will still disagree.
"Yes, but many polls have asked women whether or not they regretted their casual sex encounters" - What polls? "Also, you’ll find that the majority of women, when asked about if they would sleep with a stranger versus men asked about whether they would sleep with a stranger, almost all women said “no” and the majority of men favored such a thing." - Asked where? By whom? You're still also completely disregarding the extreme influence of social pressure. That's not reasonable. "Do women like sex? Yes, but not with a random stranger." - That's simply not true. The percentage of women who do enjoy casual sex, is far bigger than you think. Big enough for your whole argument to fall apart. "I’m sure you can find millions of women who are into casual sex, hooking up, and more but even then I would wager that these women were looking for something else but were deceived by men, don’t represent the majority of women, etc." - Nope. Still not the reality out there, whether you want to believe that or not.
"I’m just saying, whatever the number is, to my knowledge, it’s not representative of the women who go the other way." - Your knowledge that you got from where exactly? "I think we’re just doomed to disagree on this forever, so I’m fine with that." - Maybe. I'm 34. When I was 24, my opinions on almost everything were very different from what they are now. Some of them were similar to yours. I thought I had it all figured out. Then life happened and I started to realize I know shit and that there's nothing more important to opinions than to change them according to new experience and new knowledge. That's all I'm gonna say about that for now. "I’ve defined what “whore,” “slut,” and “ho” means to me and have written why I don’t like them and why these behaviors aren’t good for them, future partners, and even society. I’ve used my personal opinion, surface level understanding of biology, etc." - Yes, YOUR definitions. Because a whore is a prostitute - a person who takes money in exchange for sexual favors. But okay, you're acknowledging that your definition is different from the correct one. And the flaws in your understanding of biology is something I've adressed already.
But I don’t want to end this discussion like that. You agree with some basics, disagree with some other basics, that’s alright. What I don’t know – what does your opinion on all this mean now, practically speaking? We seem to mostly disagree about how common women are who enjoy casual sex without any serious intentions, not about THAT they exist. I mean, I can only repeat that you’re absolutely underestimating how many women like that do exist. But let’s ignore that for now. For argument’s sake, let’s assume you’re right and say only 5% of women are like that. Then what? You’re still degrading them, insulting them, hating them, judging them, calling them „sluts“. Why? What have they done to you? Or anyone? Why the hate? Why the urge to put them down? I just don’t get it. You’re desperately trying to find rational explanations for your very emotional opinion. I think you should learn to accept that your opinion is based on a very strong emotion rather than on a rational reason (and there’s no shame in that in and of itslef) and then work from there – being self-critical should always be the first step. Try the scientific way – instead of trying to find supposed evidence that backs up your opinion, try finding out why you REALLY feel that strongly about it.
Because here’s the thing: If your opinion was based on rational reasons, you’d simply sate that you oppose promiscuity. But the fact that you feel so strongly and also feel the need to publicly degrade and shame people you deem „sluts“ is very clear proof that it’s actually the other way around – your opinion is based on these strong emotions and now you’re trying to find rational explanations so you can tell yourself and us it’s all rational. It clearly is not. It’s hard to make that first step. To look inside yourself and say „Yeah okay, I was being irrational. I have this hatred towards them because of some very personal reason. Maybe I should look more into that and see if I was being unfair and irrational, at least to a degree“. This is very tough, I know. I’ve been through this many times in my life and I sure as hell didn’t always manage to do that. But I don’t know, maybe my words will have a tiny impact on you. If not, then I suppose we can end this now.
You know what the main issue is with your whole opinion? That you have the audacity to tell grown up people what and how they feel. That you're patronizing them like that without even being remotely in the position to judge how they feel. You claim you're basing this off of some statistics yet you judging ALL of them the same. If this whole thing was rational, you wouldn't actively choose to call them "sluts" and "whores". No, if this was rational you'd be speaking of "promiscuity". You choosing to consantly say "sluts" is the opposite of rational - it's 100% emotional. This is what blows your cover. There's nothing rational about your opinion and this proves it. And I guess that's where this discussion has to end. Because as much as I tried to get you out of it, as much as you occasionally did make concessions, every exchange has ended in the same place and will continue to end in the same place - at your emotional basis for your opinion. And that's something (as much as you've been trying to make it seem otherwise) that can't be reasoned with rationally. Your emotion is something that only you can change. I'm muting this thread now. I just hope you'll leave others be and not insult and shame them merely for having casual sex with other consenting adults. Let others enjoy their sex lives as they wish. And PLEASE, learn to accept that everybody's different and that it doesn't mean that they have some issues just because they feel different about sex than you. Your feelings aren't the measure of all things.
No, that’s not my definition of a “whore,” “slut,” or “ho.” I’ve defined those three terms above. Also, for the polls and data, you can look them up as they’re easy to find. I can find them for you and post them but I don’t think it will change your opinion at all. Again, I know there are a lot of women out there who enjoy casual sex, but how are they defining casual sex? What are the specifics in how they like it? I’ve reasoned out my belief using science mainly, even if I didn’t provide a swath of links, although I could, you haven’t done any better I already said that many women like casual sex... so what’s the issue? I know that societal pressure can prevent women from not acting out in how they actually want but even today when societal pressure is at an all time low as opposed to decades prior, women still act differently from men in this regard. The fact is, the majority of women do not favor indiscriminate/casual sex with many men who are basically strangers. Goes against their nature.
Again, I’ve defined what I mean rather specifically. Just because a woman has engaged in casual sexual doesn’t mean she’s a whore, slut, etc.
Yes very much so...
you are not wrong... the hook up culture is disgusting and empty... the expectation of sex in relationships these days is way too high way too soon... i see questions on GaG dealing with discrepencies of friends with benefits... and that garbage is meant to be entirely unemotional sex... just animals fuccing... and that disgusts me as well as high body counts... and i think your point on bonding is entirely valid... but i'm not gonna just discount these women from gaining feelings and attatchment that's real... they may be kinda having to jump from relationship to relationship just to survive... they may have a fugged up homelife that leads them to think that sex = love
Its your right to dislike them but I don't think you should be mean or rude to them. You're no little holy angel neither.
Now that I read everyone else's responses here are mine.
You said: "
I just don’t like feeling like a number or object, which is almost bound to happen if a woman has been with many men before I."
But all I see is you treating them like objects as well for calling them names and not human beings just by their choices.
Everyone has a right to their choices and the way they live and I accept that but that does not give anyone the right to treat other people to live the way they do.
It is inhumane and hurtful to wish anything harmful to anyone for their choices in life. You do not know the whole truth and how they take care of themselves. You do not know the people they are with are also good people who are taking care of themselves or each other. Trying to say that they are spreading stds or compare them to covid-19 is outright malicious, prejudicial, and evil. You have nothing but hate in your heart fo these people for how they live their life. Why not stand back and see the whole picture before you make your judgements on people who have done nothing to you.
Would you discriminate against a friend who has had a lot of other friends?
It's pretty weird how sex is one of the only things people don't want you to be experienced & good at.
Why would this be considered unreasonable? Not sure I follow. Obviously you can't turn a whore into a housewife, so if you are looking for a housewife, stay away from whores. If you just want a piece of meat to fuck, well there are plenty of girls like that.
It's funny to me how so many women get offended by this kind of statement. It makes me think, damn, these girls must be fucking up a storm (and I pretty much know they are, especially in their younger years with alcohol etc). Like if you were a good woman, you wouldn't have a problem with this kind of man, you'd be encouraging him, because you want to find a man like this who hasn't been with a bunch of whores, right?
What woman wants a man who's been with a bunch of whores?
A fucking whore woman that's who XD
Yes, I agree. I’m glad you don’t think it’s unreasonable. Yes, is it obvious I’m passionate about my dislike for these women? Of course But I’m not unreasonable. I’m open to hearing out anyone’s reasonings and why they’ve done what they’ve done. Also, I haven’t defined whore, slut, and hoe so broadly so that women who wear certain clothing are labeled as sluts. That’s not right or true. I’ve also said how it’s just unhealthy for everyone and offered actual scientific terms like “pair bonding” to argue my point. It’s really not pseudo science...
Yea the western world is really lost on this topic just keep repeating truth
If you dislike them, you won't go towards them and you will do your best to avoid them, right? Why worry about people that you are super unlikely to meet then? Try to focus on more positive women or more positive things in life in general.
That’s exactly what I do. But I can still express my viewpoints can I?
Yes you can. Just don't waste your time on people that you don't think are worth it.
They are total trash. You're right. A man has to really hate himself to commit to a slut.
But you are wrong about dressing like a slut or being an attention whore. Its the same mental disease as being a slut.
For example is a virgin who desires to be gang banged every day by different men but is stuck on a deserted island so she remains a virgin a quality girl? No.
Alternatively, is a girl who was a whore at age 18 and then says she wants a chaste life and then proves it by keeping her legs closed and being respectable for 10 years a trashy woman? No.
These girls that dress like sluts want to be a slut but either are afraid to be an actual slut or they dont have opportunity or something like that or they are actually also a slut. Girls who dress like sluts have the same mental issue as sluts.
You're not unreasonable, just unlikely to find a relationship any time soon. I've got a buddy that's in the same place and I refuse to date women below my standards and or women that post their entire lives online. If you're with someone you should be doing shit with them not just do you can impress others with your experiences. Somewhere along the line we stopped holding women accountable for acting like adults, instead they chase validation anywhere they can get it doing whatever the can to earn it. The morals have declined to the point that women actually have pride in being virtual strippers and shit. Instead of wanting a family, most have children, leave the man, get on government assistance, and then sure the father for child support. There's no current honor in being a mother if you're going to do it in a two parent household, only if your going to be a strong independent woman. It doesn't matter that children of single mother are less likely to succeed in any are of life and are more likely to continue habits that more or less ensure their children will have the same issues succeeding in life.
I think you're perfectly reasonable in your dislike of the ACT of being a whore or a slut. But of course, a "hoe" has nothing to do with this, as a "hoe" is a garden tool.
How about men who are whores? Or pay the prostitutes? Hate them too, or are you just focused on women?
so the reason you don't like them is because you weren't their first? that sounds more like issues with you than them
Did you not read what I wrote? Read it again slowly
You’re unreasonable
No one likes sluts
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I will do as you command goddess.
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That's not true. Some people do like sluts. There's someone for everyone.
If you don't like these type of women you should not put yourself around them or be around them. These women are the way they are because of the trauma and things they've been through in their lives. Nobody is perfect not even you. Don't be so selfish and look at the bigger picture, we may not go through the same things in life but they can be equally as bad. Everybody matters
How do you not "put yourself around" these types of women as these are the majority of women these days?
You just have to be really picky LOL I don't particularly care for these type of women myself so I don't put myself around where they are. And I'm willing to wait until I find the right one. To me actions always speak louder than words.