I'm talking about slut shaming men AND women.
We here in the states are quite prudish in my opinion, myself included.
Men don't realize how easy it is to get a "whore" label.
It can after people find out you masturbate, after you reject a guy, if you have big boobs and wear a tight shirt, wearing a bikini, sending nudes to your husband, homemade porn, even breastfeeding, and even for being a victim of rape.
Oh, and also being promiscuous of course.
Here's a story of a mother being harassed for breastfeeding. The man told her to go somewhere else and even called her a whore.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/06/16/new-mom-verbally-attacked-breastfeeding-public-target-connecticut/85972164/
Here's a story of a 15yr old girl who's "friend" took a pic of her without her consent and uploaded it on Snapchat. The girl was harassed and called names and she ended up killing herself:
https://wgntv.com/2016/06/10/girl-15-commits-suicide-after-nude-snapchat-video-leak/
I never understood why men slut shame women. I'm not saying women don't, we do. But it's usually out of competition or jealousy. This does not make it right or acceptable by any means though.
But don't men benefit from promiscuous women? On this site alone, so many guys throw fits that they can't get girls. Some even saying that all they want is sex but women make them jump through hoops. Why call her a slut then for enjoying the same act you wanted, with you? Don't you also enjoy seeing a woman's silhouette in her tight dress or whatever? Why discourage it by calling her a slut or saying "she asked for it"?
I'm not saying men don't get slut shamed (and no, player/fuckboy shaming IS NOT the same thing), and I'm not saying it's good to encourage men to be shamed. But this affects women a lot more.
Anyways, do you think slut shaming benefits or harms society overall?
Do you think slut shaming is good or bad for society?
Select gender and age to cast your vote:
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35 76Harassment in any shape or form is wrong. I don't think slut-shaming is ok simply because its none of my business. Regarding breastfeeding & that poor girl committing suicide that is just going too far.
Going off track sure they should be free to sleep with as many guys as they want to, but lying about their count number to their future partners is as bad. I don't slut shame, I think its none of anyones business. However I would judge when it comes to choosing a partner. I am not judgmental but would judge. Not dating someone promiscuous.
Slut shaming good or bad for society. They're not doing anything to anyone else are they? Are they imposing on other people? Is it having any negative effects on invidiuals that make up society, I don't think so. Its not good or bad for society. But is bad for person being harrassed.
when has anyone ever said "thank god we shamed people, it totally fixed everything"
It doesn't "fix everything"... it actually holds everything together. This isn't a black and white issue. People need to be told and discouraged from doing something wrong. When we tolerate individual's failure to adhere to common values or social standards, we can't call it an admirable pursuit of freedom. If we do, it becomes difficult to distinguish the innocent from the guilty... and good people are unfairly punished. Basically, I think it's the LACK of shaming that allows society to become so blind that it ignores rapists or chastises natural beauty. True immorality becomes the 'needle in the haystack', and many would rather avoid the haystack than pick out the needle. Freedom isn't about being able to get away with more types of behavior ... it's about having more responsibility and having more thoughtful judgement. We shouldn't protect people that are thoughtless and don't care about the consequences of their actions. It really doesn't help anyone.
Sometimes SHAME fixes things. DUH. Got to have intelligence and a conscience though. So you may not benefit from shaming.
I'm fine with slut shaming. Let's be clear, if the actions call for a person, to be slut shamed, so be it. People like to take common sense outta the equation for everything and putting things into a simple black or white scenario, when the world is gray
So it's ok to call a breastfeeding mom a slut? Or a 15 yr old girl who's pictures were taken without her consent and uploaded without her consent?
Like I said, common sense needs to come into play. Slut for breastfeeding? No, but let's clear things up. If a girl posts a picture of her breastfeeding, you know damn well some won't find it appropriate and might call her out for it. As for the 15 year old girl, besides being illegal, depends on the circumstances Like I said, people like to trivialize everything to pigeonhole everything into a yes or no scenario. The world doesn't work like that And even with that said, slut shaming isn't a crime in most cases (the are a few exceptions), as long as people have freedom of speech, you can't stop what people can and can't say. And as much as I'd personally like to, you sure as hell can't control what people think... For better or for worse 😑
@Antimillennial calls me stupid, yet the nigga can't even spell 😂. Fuck outta here weak sauce
Slut shaming is a good thing. Too many male/female sluts out there that STD rates are very, very high. Too many sexual partners will do that. Risky behavior may ruin your sexual health and your general health/appearance. Your immunity will be shot, very sickly, inside and out. Now that sounds FUN.
A 15 yr pics taken without consent? Now that is odd. Never happens. Let's be REAL. And if a mom breast feeds, COVER. Show some decency and moral behavior for your CHILD, if not for yourself. Geesh!
@19blondie76 well it did happen and she killed herself because of the harassment she faced. And they're just titties. Some babies don't like having a cover their head. And it's fucking hot right now, do you really think that's comfortable for them? Why can't y'all just look away? It's easy for supposed grown adults to turn their heads away. It's not always easy for infants to breastfeed.
She showered and allowed it to be filmed. AT 15 YEARS OLD!!! Then he showed it around. So, she was wrong to allow herself to be filmed, warped with sexual obsession, as most of society today. Very sad and disturbing. Sex addiction. Major problem.
@19blondie76 no. Are you illiterate? The "friend" snuck in the shower and took her picture without her knowing. The "friend" then posted it on social media. The girl had no idea until she was being harassed about it by her peers. She didn't let anyone film her. She didn't let anyone post it. Read the article before spouting nonsense. And yes people do stupid shit like this like the girl who filmed her "friends" rape and posted it on social media. Or was that victim of rape also a whore?
Wow you are dumb. Check the story again. It was her boyfriend. She knew the video existed. He showed it. NGet real. Trying to make up a narrative for your stupid points.
@19blondie76 no. You're the one who can't read. It did not mention boyfriend at all
its good. sluts are bad for society so discouraging the behavior is great.
I don't believe in sleeping around so I wouldn't date a girl who did but I never insult or shame anyone over the number of people they've had sex with because it's their life and they have the right to live it as they see fit without being judged. I don't know why more people can't just respect each other's beliefs and lifestyles instead of hating on anyone who's different than them
Having lots of sexual partners both increases one's chances to catch an STD and the number of those whom one can give it too after, and we have reached the point where the CDC reported 36% of women now have genital herpes (which causes cancer) and many STDs are becoming resistant or even immune to treatment (including AIDS). Further, condoms are only realistically about 83% effective, and most "sluts" don't use them. We are talking about deadly human plague rats.
I don't even care anymore. I just want people to stop talking about it here.
The Second Instalment of SlutWars: The Slutpire Strikes Back :v
Lol at Slut shaming... you don't need to 'shame' a slut/manwhore... they already shaming themselves... yeah I said it... you gonna cry now? :v
Hilarious MyTake tho... pure genius ;) I had a good chuckle.
I never understood why people get in other people's business about things like that. It's not my business who people choose to have sex with.
when you get aids from someone youve slept with, you'll want to know then
It's always bad for society! For those who said it is good, I have no respect for you!
😂😂 sluts don't benefit those men who can't get laid. Women forget that what doesn't attract one woman doesn't attract all women. It's actually worse seeing the girl who loves sleeping around not sleep with you.
But I don't slut shame. I'm a proud prozzie user and polyamorous, couldn't give a fuck.
Be GRATEFUL a slut doesn't sleep with you. She/he will give you herpes or gonorrhea. Want a lifelong disease? I think not. Let them spread their diseases elsewhere!
@19blondie76 so they all have fun and I don't? The only disease I'm scared of is mediocrity. Something that has corroded my soul more than any viral or bacterial disease.
Excluding the incels, there are bigger issues. Having lots of sexual partners both increases one's chances to catch an STD and the number of those whom one can give it too after, and we have reached the point where the CDC reported 36% of women now have genital herpes (which causes cancer) and many STDs are becoming resistant or even immune to treatment (including AIDS). Further, condoms are only realistically about 83% effective, and most "sluts" don't use them.
I think it's wrong
It's women who do the most slut-shaming. Not men
It was a man calling the breastfeeding mother a whore. Look at this site, this question, mostly men are using the word "slut". In my own life, I can honestly say I've never been called a slut by a woman or girl, ever. But I've been called a slut by lots of men, granted it was mostly when I rejected them. But not even the lesbians I rejected ever called me a slut. I don't understand why some men claim it's women, it's mostly men on the web and in my own personal experience.
Because the question is ABOUT slut-shaming. Using that as evidence is stupid as fuck. However, let's take that logic and apply it to a similar situation then
time.com/.../
Men are far more open with their slut-shaming than women are. Just because you've never been called one to your face doesn't mean women don't slut-shame
thoughtcatalog.com/.../
You said yourself that women do it "only" out of competition and jealousy, which is the most common reason for it PERIOD
broadblogs.com/.../
Don't sit there and act like slut-shaming is perpetuated by men towards women. The generic victimhood story of "men abuse, women receive" doesn't work here
I didn't say women don't slut shame. I just said that just this site alone that it's more prevalent in men. Dudes on this site always say it's mostly women, but it's probably about 50/50ish. Maybe a bit more or less.
If you take a look at the poll, you can see how more men than women claim slut-shaming is good for society. :) So your little statement there doesn't actually hold much water.
@lumos butt hurt about the poll.. is this site even popular.
@Antimillennial not at all butthurt about the poll, quite the opposite actually since it proves my point and dismantles Kylesar's claim.
@lumos only for this site. since I've seen many girls do it on other social medias. and I've even ss some of them as proof.
@Antimillennial anecdotal fallacy. Sure, ONE poll is not a lot, but still, almost 300 people have voted. And that's actually a pretty decent number, even for more scientific polls. And as it is right now, almost 50% of the people who have voted are men who think that it's good to slut-shame. It's almost as if ever other guy on here thinks it's ok. Whereas only 18% of the women who voted think it's ok. Hence, the majority of slut-shamers, at least on here, are guys. How this applies to the real world is questionable of course, but I'd say that it's a pretty good indicator that men do indeed slut-shame more than women. It's not even as if it's almost a tie between men and women. 70% of the slut-shamers are male.
almost 50% of the MEN who have voted think it's ok to slut-shame*
@lumos Dismantles my claim? This small website doesn't hold a candle to twitter. Twitter is a FAR better indicator of societal value than this site by a long-shot Besides, this poll is heavily biased in its wording, lacks perspective, has a false cause, so it's not a good indicator by default. It FAR from dismantles my claim. You need something a little bigger and hell of a lot less biased
Then go to twitter and make a poll, then come back here and show me the results!
@lumos Or you could've read my points from the beginning
time.com/.../
... did you even read that article? "A British study has revealed that women are tweeting slurs that are derogatory to their own gender almost as frequently and viciously as men" ALMOST as frequently and viciously as men. ALMOST. I. e. men do it more.
I adhere to the Structural-Functional Perspective (sociology) so I think every thing, even crime, ultimately benefits society. However, on an individual scale, I think slut shaming is bad and it's not a behavior I condone, or would ever intentionally do to someone.
How does crime benefit society?
I'll answer this in two ways.
1) Emile Durkheim's Basic Insight * deviance (in this case crime) affirms cultural norms and values. * responding to deviance (in this case crime) clarifies moral boundaries * responding to deviance brings people together * deviance encourages social change
2) think of yin and yang. Good and evil, hot and cold, positive and negative. You can't have one without the other (the first* I should have used numbers, oh well) You can't define the one without including the other in the definition. (The second*) The existence of one necessitates the existence of the other. And neither are self contained, good becomes bad and bad becomes good. Values change with time, and deviance helps to facilitate this.
I read about that in my sociology class. It reminded me of Scarface lol "you need people like me. So you can point your fucking fingers and say that's the bad guy. But what does that make you? Good?"
It does, haha.
Sociology was one of my favorite classes.
But I hated psychology oddly enough.
I like both sociology and psychology
Well, good luck in your studies!
But I'm not majoring in either of those lol
That's probably a good thing, those aren't exactly high demand fields.
Though they can help you in other fields.
Men, women, animals, insects, BACTERIA!!! WE ARE ALL SEXUAL BEINGS... society is just stupid. Everyone is secretly a whore inside. Reasons why people dont go forward with having sex is either because they'll get judged or catch a disease lol...
I mean cmon the only reason why its shameful is because we were tought by society not to be prideful about it. We humans were tought things. they aren't natural. Like how we go to school to learn right? Our parents teaching us right from wrong. Now imagine if there were no society, there would be no slut shaming.
"everyone is a whore" HAAA. Speak for YOURSELF, whore!
@19blondie76 the fact the yoy had to take your precious little time out to call me that, i mean cmon, you obviously got offended at the age of 30. "People who get offended obviously know its the truth". There fore, it really takes a WHORE TO KNOW A WHORE. Get over it AUNTY. haaaaa
I mean cmon look at urself ur the only chick or let alone, person commenting on my opinion. ur the only one getting offended. Literally
Shame is a powerful motivating tool. Yes people should be shamed for being immoral
If a wife cheats on her husband or vice-versa The cheating partner should be shamed.
If a girl is actually a prostitute, she should be shamed. Same goes for male whores
We have to shame degeneracy, that way people are less likely to act like degenerates.
Agreed. The situation is getting to bad to bear. Having lots of sexual partners both increases one's chances to catch an STD and the number of those whom one can give it too after, and we have reached the point where the CDC reported 36% of women now have genital herpes (which causes cancer) and many STDs are becoming resistant or even immune to treatment (including AIDS). Further, condoms are only realistically about 83% effective, and most "sluts" don't use them. Soon, our entire species will be in danger.
Its bad, its not your business what consenting adults do in their own home
There isn't really slut shaming for men, it used to be calling men cads. However, women override that as they too often find it attractive.
By shaming men who were cads/players, and shaming women who were promiscuous, the point was to get women and men to bend their will to the betterment of society to fulfill their desires.
The blunt truth is you can already see the extreme opposite in the black culture. Rampant poverty, welfare usage, crime, most children are bastards, heavy child abuse... it destroys a community.
You forgot the most dangerous part: Having lots of sexual partners both increases one's chances to catch an STD and the number of those whom one can give it too after, and we have reached the point where the CDC reported 36% of women now have genital herpes (which causes cancer) and many STDs are becoming resistant or even immune to treatment (including AIDS). Further, condoms are only realistically about 83% effective, and most "sluts" don't use them.
@JMghow Hmm I know HIV is kinda treatable? But my understanding is it still costs a fortune to treat, and over time the medicines alone devastates the infected person's body.
True, although now lots of STDs (including AIDS) are become resistant to treatment, or even immune. Further, many of these STDs are worse than AIDS if untreated. I can't remember if it was gonorrhea or syphilis that resembled leprosy if untreated, but I do remember that syphilis eats the brain and causes insanity.
everything's a story now huh...
smh.
No its not
So, u just said women shame each other. I would say more than men last time I checked. I sometimes avoid them.
The reason there is a bias is because women in USA still try to play the 1950's Step Ford wife role in that they are sweeter and gentler and should be treated as such. They should take the kids in a divorce as they are caring and motherly. Men should not hit a girl cause they are fragile even if she punched you. It's a woman's choice and a women's body so don't go hugging on a girl until she is ready...
You see where I'm going with this? If we acted like complete equals then there be less of a bias.
But I have to completely disagree about men shaming more or the same as women do to each other. No way. If a girl was slutty, guys either slept with them, slightly teased them or like me, avoided them.
Look at this poll alone lol look at the responses. Only a few women agree with slut shaming while more than a handful of men are ok or even encourage it. And even use the word "slut". Also, the person who called the breastfeeding mom a whore was a guy, while the person defending him was a woman. I'd say it's about 50/50 give or take, but men are more ruthless about it.
Really have to disagree. Unless the man is bitter. The beast feeding thing the dude is a just a ahole with anger issue. I still see women talking more crap about other women. I rarely see dudes talk crap bout other dudes unless to their faces as jokes. Seriously, I have been around a huge range of dudes. Unless the girl was bitchy to him a guy will not slut shame a girl if he thinks he has a chance to boink her. That's dumb. And if the guy has a girlfriend he really doesn't care bout some girl who sleeps around.
I'd disagree. And it's not men against men, men slut shaming women. Men don't really slut shame other men I'd definitely agree. But they still slut shame women.
We don't especially as we get older trust me. Its simply a girl who likes to get around. Although women are better at sneaking then men. Anyways, I have not seen this slut shaming you are talking about. I was military and still work around diff groups of men of all walks of life. Its a woman choice. But If I know a girl was promiscuous I would not date her. I know guys that found out their wives used to be the dorm "mattress" She liked the D. But he ignored that and married her. I have seen that a few times. Maybe you are referring to small town types? I don't know, but as long as they practices safe sex and don't have lots of kids and stuff they can't support.
When I was 17,18 i rejected my coworker in his 30s. He resorted to stalking me, and called me a slut whore, etc and that I just wanted to be single to "hoe around". I cannot even count how many men, yes even well into their 40s, who got mad I rejected them and called me a hoe. It's one of the reasons I just dread being approached now. I either get yelled at, badgered, stalked even. And no, I'm not being a bitch. I simply state "I'm flattered by your offer but I'm just not interested. Thank you though." "Why? Do you have a boyfriend?" "No, I'm single I just don't -" "So if you're single, why don't you want to date me? Just give me a chance. I can make you happy" "Again, I'm flattered but I'm just not interested" "Why? Do you think I'm ugly?" "No, you are attractive, but I just don't want to." "But why? You're lying, you think I'm ugly. Or do you just want to stay single to fuck around? Whatever. You're a hoe anyways. I'm not interested in you now. How do you like that, bitch?" :/
Men who get rejected sometimes act childish slut is just a go to word for most men (you could be a Saint). Not slut shamming. But I already knew you had some examples like that.
But it's definitely a lot more common than men would like to admit or think. Some guys like to dismiss it "oh they're just childish, not real men". Well, that's an awfully lot of childish men then lol A LOT