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She responded that if a guy says that to a girl, it constitutes rape! I tried to explain that any girl presented with that ultimatum can walk away and not have sex, so there is no element of force or coercion and it is not rape. She INSISTED that is certainly is rape, so I suggested that I would pose this question and she gave me permission to disclose her user name when I posted the question.
I am NOT trying to defend a guy giving a girl this ultimatum. I have never done anything like that. I think it's stupid and disrespectful. . . but I don't think it's rape. What do you think? Is this rape or is this just an example of someone being brainwashed by woke culture?
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24 31its blatantly not. its still consensual
An attempt at control, no second date.
Yes, almost all of us agree with that, but that was not the question.
I tell girls that I expect sex before marriage. I will literally break up with a girl who feels differently. You have standards. If one is sex by the third date and she knows that on the first she can decide if there will even be a second date. It is her decision throughout
No, it's NOT rape. As you said there is NO coercion or violence. It is a test that some people apply to their dates. When we are dating, we are all testing each other for worthiness. Is this someone I can continue building a relationship with?
Obviously not, no one is forcing you.
Hmmmm. . . I suspect women who've experienced ACTUAL rape (you know--the kind that fits the definition you'd find in a dictionary and not some putrid B. S. made up by some illiterate SJW piece of shit yesterday) might find that sentiment pretty offensive.
My guess would be that person is a troll because I'm not sure it's even possible to be that profoundly retarded.
I think it's simply below average intelligence and nothing more. What a plonker (not you OlderAndWiser).
Nah that’s honesty he wants sex as a normal human or he goes and she can decide to breakup or continue with his needs in mind
The user your posted the question about women leaving men if they don’t marry within a certain time frame is at utter moron, for what should be obvious reasons to anyone with half a brain.
Roxi is playing you like a Stradivarius violin. She obviously just wants your attention, and it's working.
I think I would just ask Roxi: "I'm not clear on modern dating rules. Do you have to have a first and second date, or can you just skip to the third?"
Roxi is not playing me because I blocked her for trolling.
One interesting thing that I noticed on this site and sites like it, is that going against the grain will get you way more attention than if you go with the flow. Take one of those stupid "how do I look" questions, for instance... 500 guys will say how great she looks, but she will ONLY respond to the one guy who says she doesn't look good. In the real world, you'd always throw out a quick thank you to anyone who gives you a nice compliment. But on the Internet, that just doesn't happen. I don't know why, but it's just the way it is. I'm glad you blocked her, because she's a waste of time.
That's what I think, too!
She's probably off arguing with someone that the sky isn't blue. I used to work at a country club, and there was a waitress that lived to be argumentative. It was her only way of getting attention. One day there was a few of us sitting at a table after work and having our free drink. I caught Lisa out of the corner of my eye, and whispered to the gang: "Hey, whatever Lisa says, just agree with her." Lisa stood by the table and brought up some stupid shit about all black people being oppressed. Me: Wow, I never really thought about it like that. Dang Chico: You have a good point, I'll have to remember that. Mike: When you put it that way, I can see your point. Lisa: You can all just fuck off. (and she stomped off. LOL)
Yes, I've known a few of that type. Sometimes, it takes a while to realize what their deal is.
Yes, but when they say the sky isn't blue, I immediately agree with them. If they don't flee, then I can have the debate with them.
Hmm... Definetly not by definition and without any physical touch is shouldn't be considered even attempted.
Though it could theoretically be considered sexual harassment and giving any kind of ultimatum without prior discussion of what both expect from dating definitely isn't honourable thing to do.
It feels like showing her the "relationship carrot" and once she reaches for it you quickly pull the carrot through obstacle course.