Most women are bisexual?

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Even the "straightest" of women masturbate to lesbian point and have had some kind of sexual fantasy about women.

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Gianna17 Xper 6
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I'm bisexual but thats the most stupid thing i've ever heard, straight women exist and thats fine. Looking at your replies to these answers I get the impression that bisexual women somehow turn you on and you're hoping that it's true because it might mean a threesome but there are even bisexual women who wouldn't go for a threesome. And studies show that sexuality is genetic so don't you think if all women are bisexual all men would be as well? I mean all men came from a woman.
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- Asker
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  The studies show that men are straight and women are bisexual. And I hate the fact that women are bisexual.
- Gianna17
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  If a study shows that all men are straight then that's obviously not a reliable study and they didn't get a true random sampling of the population because there are plenty of gay males out there.
- Asker
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  Not that all men are straight, there are obviously gay men. the study showed that men who claim to be straight are straight, while the women who claim to be straight aren't.
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- Gianna17
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  And how did it gather this information? Did they ask the women? Did they check for discharge? You know there are other reasons for discharge than being horny, did they account for those variables? Has the study been reciprocated several times by other people all producing the same result? Correlation doesn't mean causation.
- Gianna17
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  A study may be reliable, but its not accurate until it could be successfully carried out by different people because sometimes when people create a study in an attempt to prove something they look for things to support their argument without thinking about it
- Gianna17
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  This is coming from someone who's taking ap statistics, ap psychology and already took normal psych.
- Asker
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  www.researchgate.net/.../publications Dr Reiger has done a few , indiana.edu/.../Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf Here is one of the studies. They are all peer reviewed. They showed the men and women sexual imagery of all types, the measured their sexual arousal, through a plesmograph (it measures lubrication and blood flow in genitalia), a brain scan, and pupil dilation. It showed women were sexually aroused by both the male and female body, to lesbian porn etc, while the men were only aroused by women.
Anonymous
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Nope, women who masturbate to lesbian porn and have friends with benifit relationships with other women but would never think of dating another girl. That doesn't mean they are lesbian they just enjoy the sexual aspect of it. Even guys look at lesbian porn and masturbate to it. It doesn't mean anything at all aside from the fact that they are trying to get off
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- prozmay
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  Why do so many women have no idea what heterosexual means? It's called SEXUAL orientation for a reason, by definition it's only about sexual attraction, it doesn't matter if they wouldn't date women. If they enjoy the sexual aspect with girls they are by very definition bisexual or lesbian. If you don't believe me you can go read a dictionary
- prozmay
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  Seriously... how could you think a women who is friends with benefits with another woman is straight? that's ridiculous
- Opinion Owner
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  @prozmay She likes to get her pussy touched doesn't mean she wants to fall in love and get married to the person
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- prozmay
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  And I told you that by very definition that has nothing to do with SEXUAL orientation, being biSEXUAL, IF SHE WANTS SEXUAL THINGS WITH ANOTHER WOMEN SHE IS BISEXUAL! that's what biSEXUAL or homoSEXUAL means. Do I need to highlight that it is exclusively about sexual attraction again? Who you fall in love with has nothing to do with it.
DinaM Yoda
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And if you really want to know what orientation an adult woman is, you could also ask her, instead of believing that her vaginal blood flow speaks some secret truth. Sociological research suggests that straight women are more than capable of sorting out their orientation on their own, thank you very much.
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- Asker
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  So women who are more aroused by the female body than the male body are straight? Anecdotally tons and tons of women watch lesbian porn and make out with their friends yet claim to be straight, so NO, I don't trust a women when she says she is straight because many misidentify themselves. A lot of women are no were near capable of sorting out their own orientation,
- Asker
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  And the studies did conclude women are bisexual, Dr Reiger flat out says "women are either bisexual or gay but never straight" type that in to google and see it been said a thousand times.
- DinaM
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  Are you STILL on about that? It's been a week. Move on. Go do something constructive with your time.
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- Asker
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  So you think women who masturbate to lesbian porn are straight?
- DinaM
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  I think you have a disturbingly one-track mind.
- Asker
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  Answer the question please
- DinaM
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  No, because it's a stupid question that shows that you have no clue about sexuality.
- Asker
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  I understand it very well actualy, I have an honours bss degree in anthropology and cognitive science. Shit degree but somewhat relevent. I have heard all the excuses by "straight" women on why they watch lesbian porn, and I can explain how any one of them is not an excuse, and how it still means they are bisexual. Go ahead, I dare you to give a reason why a women who watches lesbian porn is still straight.
- DinaM
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  If you didn't believe them, you won't believe me. I see no point in trying to convince some narrow-minded jerk who thinks he knows women better than women themselves so, and have already made up their mind that whatever I'm going to say is wrong.
- Asker
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  Yeah so... because you are a women,,, you know more than a male gynecologists? And that is just a weak response to a horribly weak post.
- DinaM
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  Male gynecologists usually know what they're talking about, as opposed to you.
- Asker
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  oooooh, You still haven't given me the reason why women who masturbate to lesbian porn are still straight yet!! please give me a good reason why?
- DinaM
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  You really DO have a one-track mind. Why is this so important to you? Is it just that you can't get a date, and so you have to tell yourself it's because no women are straight? Is that it?
- Asker
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  Ad hominems and aversion ahhahahhahahaa
- DinaM
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  I already told you why I wouldn't bother answering you. If you can't be bothered reading my replies, that's not my fault.
- Asker
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  I have read them all and responded to most, give a specific and ill respond in more detail. And thinking a girl who masturbates to lesbian porn is straight? hahahhahahahahahah ok.
- DinaM
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  Yeah, that's what your responses generally boil down to. ou're like a parrot at this point, repeating the same thing over and over and over. Why should I bother to say anything at all when I know your response is going to be "BUT WIMMINS MASTERBAIT 2 LESBIAN PORN HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"? Y
- Asker
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  Just tell me why they are still straight when they masturbate to lesbian porn. We have established they masturbate to lesbian porn, now tell me why they are still straight while doing so. Ill try tell you why your reasoning for them still being straight is wrong.
- DinaM
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  Oh, go masturbate to lesbian porn.
- DinaM
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  Actually, I take that back. If you really want to have an actual, serious discussion about this, then drop the anonymous handle. Then I might -- I stress, MIGHT -- be bothered to answer. But long as you remain the anonymous jerk whose sole argument in "women masturbate to lesbian porn," I see no reason to engage any further.
- Asker
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  How do you, it only gives me the options to mute or close the question, my user name is bekkesmash. Anyway if it is so simple to explain why women who masturbate to lesbian can still be straight, you would have done so.
- DinaM
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  Actually the reason why I didn't was because you were being a rude anonymous person. But, since you said: Porn is a safe way to realise what turns you on, even though it doesn’t necessarily mean you want to do it in real life. If that was the case, people who watch rape and/or snuff films would be rapists and killers in real life, and though incest porn is really popular, the fewest people actually want to bang their siblings. Plus, lesbian porn is more likely to feature a sensual vibe, sex toys, and extended foreplay, all of which are classic turn-ons, and less likely to show degrading or exploitative situations that are more the norm in porn that's targeted to heterosexual men. In lesbian porn, there really is a focus on oral sex and clitoral stimulation as the main event. And since this is typically what gets most women off anyway, it's no wonder this is what they like to see on screen.
- Asker
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  So then people who masturbate to child porn aren't pedophiles? They may not want to do it in real life, but are they really not attracted to kids? A person who masturbates to a video of only kids in it is surely sexually attracted to kids to some degree, just as someone who masturbates to a video of only women (lesbian porn) in it is surely sexually attracted to women to some degree. Also a big reason people don't rape and kill is because they might serve life in prison for it, there is some part of you that wants to do it, have you never to some degree wanted to kill someone? There are lots of blow jobs in gay porn, you don't see straight men watch it. The fact is the genders in the video don't matter to the women, and that is why female sexuality is fluid, women will get aroused by anything pleasuring a pussy, the partner doesn't matter. How can you be straight when the partner doesn't matter? Men can get aroused by a video of a dick being sucked, but it has to be a women sucking.
- Asker
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  You say the sexuality of men and women are different? Yeah in the fact women have fluid sexuality (which by definition means they can't be straight) and men are target specific.
- DinaM
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  Yeah, because straight porn cater to guys anyway. It's not like it's HARD for straight guys to find straight porn that appeals to them. You can literally just pick at random and odds are it'll be your thing. Also, not cool comparing this to pedophilia. That's a real low blow.
- Asker
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  It's comparing being sexually attracted to a group of people because you masturbate to a video of them to the same thing. Just because child porn is disgusting doesn't mean the principle isn't the same. There are plenty of x-art videos, and female friendly porn (that contains men) out there, it's quantified in categories so women can easily find it, doesn't take long at all. If women were really straight they would watch only that and not lesbian porn. You think a gay guy would go, "hey porn that I like is hard to find, lets masturbate to women instead of men" no! because men are target specific and women have fluid sexuality
- DinaM
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  Actually, studies and surveys done by among others sex therapist Kimberly Resnick Anderson, has come to the conclusion that if heterosexual porn provided more of what these women were looking for -- foreplay, oral sex and women who seem to be actually orgasming rather than just shrieking theatrically -- they might be more interested. To quote: "The main focus in straight porn is either the male partner’s pleasure, or [giving] the impression that he is a 'master lover.' With women, the motions and movements during mutual masturbation, or oral sex, are far less fast and furious." In other words: These women are not getting what they want from straight porn. If they HAD, then you'd see far less women flocking to lesbian porn. And don't come here with "female friendly porn." A lot of what pretends to be "female friendly" really isn't. Not saying that genuinely female-friendly porn doesn't exist, but it's actually much harder to find than the lesbian stuff. Which is EVERYWHERE.
- Asker
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  How does that make a difference if they are straight or not? It still showing women have fluid sexuality. Remember, preference and orientation are very different things (if you don't understand fully I will elaborate). Thing is women are more into their own pleasure (which you have been illustrating nicely in your last few posts) , the partner doesn't matter as long as the girl is getting pleasured, if the partner doesn't matter, how can you be straight?
- Asker
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  Can't you see how that makes it fluid?
- DinaM
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  If you're going to put it like that, sexuality is fluid for both sexes. It's just that in this perior of time, it's more socially acceptable for women to be "fluid." Despite the common belief in the rigidity of male heterosexuality, historians and sociologists have created a substantial body of well-documented evidence showing straight men -- not "closeted" gay men -- engaging in sexual contact with other men. In many parts of the United States prior to the 1950s, the gay/straight binary distinguished effeminate men (or "fairies") and masculine men ("normal" men), not whether or not a man engaged in homosexual sex. Historian George Chauncey's study of gay life in New York City from 1890-1940 revealed that through much of the first half of the 20th century, "normal" (i. e., "straight") working class men mixed with "fairies" in the saloons and tenements that were central to the lives of working men.
- DinaM
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  The notion that homosexual activity wasn't "gay" when undertaken by "real" (i. e. straight) men continued into the 1950s and 60s. During this period, the homosexual contact of straight men began to undergo a transformation from relatively mundane behaviour to the bold behaviour of male rebels. The Hells Angels, which formed in 1948, serves as a rich example. There are few figures more "macho" than a heavily tattooed, leather-clad biker, whose heterosexuality was as much on display as his masculinity: Brawling over women, exhibiting women on the back of bikes, and brandishing tattoos and patches of women were all central to the subculture of the gang. And yet, deep kissing was an expression of brotherhood among Hells Angels gang members, who also had sexual encounters with one another. One of their favorite "stunts" was to deeply was to deeply French kiss one another – with tongues extended out of their mouths in a type of tongue-licking kiss often reserved for girl-on-girl porn.
- DinaM
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  Members of the Hells Angels explained that the kissing was a defiant stunt that produced among onlookers the desired degree of shock. To them, it was also an expression of "brotherhood." Today, sexual encounters between straight-identified men take new but similarly "manly" forms. For instance, when men undergo hazing in college fraternities and in the military, there's often a degree of sexual contact. It's often dismissed as a joke, game, or ritual that has no bearing on the heterosexual constitution of the participants. Individuals often react to these examples in one of two ways. Either they jump to the conclusion that any straight-identified man who engages in sexual contact with another man must actually be gay or bisexual, or they dismiss the behaviour as not actually sexual. Rather, they interpret it as an expression of dominance, a desire to humiliate, or some other ostensibly "non sexual" male impulse.
- Asker
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  So you are saying it being accepted that women can be fluid has made them fluid? maybe, just a reason though, they still are bisexual. Yes, men have been fluid in the past, but currently they are not, as shown by the tests and the anecdotal. And you are also showing anecdotal only in the men you describe having sexual relations with each other. Also I am sure it was a small percentage of men that were scared of coming out that you describe from pre-1950 , while currently most if not all women are bisexual. The last time I am willing to accept male sexuality as fluid for most, was ancient Greece, a long time ago. It takes many generations to make it change, currently women are bisexual, men are straight.
- DinaM
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  But these responses merely reveal our culture's preconceived notions about men's sexuality. In other words, same-sex contact among straight men and women is interpreted through the lens of some well-worn gender stereotypes. But these stereotypes don't hold up when we examine the range of straight men's sexual encounters with other men. It's clear that straight men and women come into intimate contact with one another in a range of different ways. But this is less about hard-wired gender differences But this is less about hard-wired gender differences and more about broader cultural norms dictating how men and women are allowed to behave with people of the same sex. Men's sexuality isn't as fundamentally inflexible as you claim.
- DinaM
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  Or, in other words: If all women are bisexual, so are all men. It's just that it's more accepted and acceptable for women to be "fluid."
- Asker
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  In the last post you described, men are not aroused by those acts, it's non sexual (unlike masturbating to lesbian porn), and if they are aroused, it's a small minority and they are bi or gay. And I haven't really heard of male hazing being sexual at all (contact wise).
- Asker
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  No, it being more accepted would prompt more men to come out, it wouldn't change their sexual orientation, at least not in one generation. If men were currently bisexual like women are, they would be aroused by gay porn, but they aren't.
- DinaM
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  Oh, so when *I* quote evidence that male sexuality is fluid, you brush it off with an "it's a small minority and they are either bi or gay," but when you quote evidence about female fluid sexuality I'm supposed to take this as evidence that all women are bi. Nah. Men are just as fluid as women are. In our current society, women just have more "permission" to be sexually fluid, or even to just be physically loving and affectionate with female friends. Men do not have these permissions without being labeled as forever "gay." Indeed, we seem to feel the need to force men to define their sexuality as “gay” or “straight”. It's not that long since "studies proved" that male bisexuality didn't exist, after all.
- Asker
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  We were discussing if women who masturbate to lesbian porn are straight or not, so they already fit the situation. Since every girl in over 500 tests were aroused by it and it's the most popular genre of porn to the female demographic, we can safely assume most women are aroused by it. There is nothing to say that most men indulge in sexual things with other men or that most men have a fluid sexuality currently, see the very big difference? And if "permission" is all that is stopping men being fluid, why aren't they aroused by gay porn (like it has been proven women are to lesbian porn)? why aren't they aroused by a man masturbating (like women have been proven to be to a women masturbating)? Why aren't they aroused by a naked male body (like women have been proven to be to a naked female body)? And yes, men were shown these things in tests and weren't aroused.
- DinaM
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  You're extremely fond of that study, aren't you? Let me counter with another study: Published in The Journal of Social Psychology this year, the study showed that straight men were found to be more physically attracted to other men after a few drinks. Researchers recruited a total of 83 bar-hopping straight men and women. The participants were asked to complete a survey about how many drinks they'd had that night, watch a 40-second video of either a physically attractive man or woman drinking at a bar and chatting with the bartender, and then rate their sexual interest in the person in the video, from buying them a drink to going home together to have sex. Now, it wasn't a big surprise when men showed high interest in the attractive woman, and women were more attracted to the man -- but the researchers found that the more alcohol men drank, the more interested they became in the man in the video.
- DinaM
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  Overall, the men did expressed more sexual interest in the women, regardless of how much they had. which coincides with previous research that concedes men tend to be more lax about casual sex with strangers -- but as the researchers found, those men who consumed over 10 alcoholic drinks were more likely to entertain the idea of gay sex just as much as having sex with a woman.
- Asker
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  link to the actual study? and buying them a drink- to sleeping with him? It could be non sexual for the first few signs of interest, if I get drunk I wouldn't mind going over and buying a guy a drink, it's friendly though, no sexual intent.
- DinaM
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  The actual article isn't online, at least not for free, but here are three sites that sum it up.
  
  tonic.vice.com/.../the-more-straight-people-drink-the-more-theyre-into-gay-sex
  
  www.christianpost.com/.../
  
  www.bro.social/.../the-more-a-bro-drinks-the-more-hes-into-other-dudes
  
  At least two of those sites also reference studies that show that a large number of heterosexual identifying men secretly watch gay porn or have same-sex fantasies.
- Asker
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  Not much to work on either way, but the article you posted says " The result prompted the researchers to conclude that alcohol makes sexuality fluid. "Sexual willingness was only influenced by alcohol intake and perceived attractiveness of a same-sex prospective partner," the authors wrote. Regardless of alcohol intake, another study theorized that women have been evolutionarily designed to have same-sex encounters. It suggested that women's sexuality has evolved to be more fluid than men's as a mechanism to reduce conflict and tension among co-wives in polygynous marriages." So men are ONLY fluid when very drunk while women are always fluid? I dunno, that's what your study suggests.
- Asker
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  And what are they saying by this "In a surprise to no one, the men were more interested when the video featured a woman rather than a man, whereas women showed the reverse pattern." Are they saying the "straight" women were more interested in the women than the man? Are they saying women are closer to being lesbian than straight? I ACTUALLY HOPE I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.
- DinaM
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  Dude. "The reverse pattern" means that women showed more interest in the video with the man. It's not exactly hard to figure out. At this point I'm starting to think you just want to read everything as "all women are bisexual."
- Asker
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  My bad, I misinterpreted, but even your study seems to suggest all women are bisexual. I disagree with the methodology of the study, since a drunk guy can easily say "haha I'd suck him off" without actually meaning it. While with the study that measures arousal, you can't be insincere with your response. Both studies applied to each other would certainly support the hypothesis that men were insincere in their response while drunk, since he was in no way aroused by men, when hooked up to machines.
- Asker
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  But lets take the study into account, it says that male sexuality is fluid ONLY after a moderate intake of alcohol, while women are always are fluid. I found the diagrams present in the study, and it shows women showed almost as much sexual interest in the women as they did the man, with a few of them showing even more sexual interest in the women. The men showed WAY more sexual interest in the women, and no man showed more sexual interested in the man. Also as I alluded to above, women showed sexual interest in the women while sober, while men showed 0 sexual interest in the man while sober.
- Asker
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  www.semanticscholar.org/.../29bc5f6f9a990a562579eda3b2cf66e8b35e0a3d Link to the diagrams in the study
- DinaM
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  What, so you're saying men who express interest in gay sex after a few drinks are strictly straight?
- Asker
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  If it is truly sincere interest then... no, I am pretty sure they didn't really mean it though (at least most of them) I mean arousal patterns said different, and they can't lie. Being drunk can make you say things you don't mean, when I was drunk one night I talked about driving my car off the road to my friend and it seemed like I meant it. Anyway, excluding the fact that the study seems VERY flawed in comparison to the studies that used arousal. It would suggest that both sexes are fluid, men to a very small degree, women to an extreme degree. If using the kisney scale and using fractions men- 0.2 women- 3, but as I said, the study is too flawed.
- DinaM
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  Oh no, studies proving that all WOMEN have fluid sexuality are obviously legit and on the clear, but if other studies prove the same about MEN, then the study is flawed, and the men were lying or gay or bisexual to begin with. Yeah. Now you're just making excuses. You were the one bringing studies into this, you can't just pick and choose the studies that agree with what you've already decided, and then dismiss the rest of them. Do I get to be the one who says "Hahahahahahahaha" now?
- Asker
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  You really think guys who have had 10+ drinks, can't even walk or see straight, asked by some random guys after watching a video isn't going to be insincere or not really mean it in there answers? It wasn't even in a controlled setting. Vs a study that shows arousal by microlubrications in the vagina that can't possibly be wrong in it's raw data. Even your study shows that sober men don't say anything sexual toward the man, while sober women are almost as interested in the women as the man. Studies on the same subject have to be compared, when the data of one doesn't match the other, then either both studies are wrong, or one is.
- Asker
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  And it's obvious which one has more reliable data
- DinaM
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  It's cute how you keep making excuses. Can't face the possibility that all men are bisexual! Hahahahahahaha.
- Asker
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  So everyone is bisexual then, with women being closer to lesbian than straight since they are more aroused by the female body than the male body.
- DinaM
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  If you really want to play "straighter than thou," I suppose I can't stop you. Just keep that in mind next time you feel like telling women that they're not straight -- research suggests that NOBODY is.
  
  broadly.vice.com/.../straight-people-dont-exist-new-research-says
- Asker
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  The studies by Reiger (5 times the sample group) and Chivers say only women have fluid sexuality (ones that used response to porn too). I don't see pupil dilation being accurate to sexual arousal either, the only study to measure genital arousal showed only women were aroused by their own gender.
- DinaM
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  Yeah, I figured you'd say that. Convenient how only YOUR examples are valid, isn't it? "Oh no, the people from your evidence were obviously exceptions, they were bi/gay." "Oh no, that test doesn't work, it involved alcohol." "Oh no, pupil dilation doesn't count, only genitals do." I've given you PLENTY of evidence, from SEVERAL sources, that male sexuality is just as fluid as female. You can stick your head in the sand and go "it doesn't count!" all you like, but I think I've made my case. ALL MEN ARE BISEXUAL. Bwahahahahaha.
- Asker
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  You provided an article to one study. That concluded men ONLY showed sexual interest toward men when drunk and that women always showed sexual interest in women. I am not saying one is valid and one other isn't directly, but when the data doesn't match up... one has to be flawed or incorrect. And looking at it objectively with any sort of analytics, the methods used in the studies I posted are more reliable than the one you mention. Come on... very drunk guys having sexual comments about a guy, vs sober people showing sexual arousal measured by the most accurate way we know how, and the fact that the findings gainsay each other... worlds apart.
- DinaM
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  I provided four articles about two separate studies, PLUS I wrote oodles about OTHER studies that I didn't link to. I've provided MORE material than you have... you haven't even provided any links. Face facts: If all women count as bisexual, so do all men. Constantly saying "no that doesn't count" isn't going to change anything.
- Asker
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  Oddles of other studies? Links please! You have only mentioned one study explicitly, and it was an article, not a link. Ill link you my studies when I get to my computer. And if we accept men are bisexual, then we have to accept that women are closer to being lesbian than straight
- DinaM
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  For crying out loud, will you stop saying the same thing over and over and over! Nobody's interested!

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prozmay Xper 2
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Yeah from what i have seen most women are bisexual, and a lot don't admit it or don't actually understand what sexual orientation means, i mean look at the one pink anon, she thinks girls can be friends with benefits with other girls and be straight, WTF
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CT_CD Master
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No such thing as straight women.
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- CT_CD
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  How do I have two opinions on the same question
- Asker
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  I always knew you had hacking abilities.

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BellePepper Master
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Oh no. You're actually thinking of guys. All guys are either gay or bi.
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- Asker
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  That's the type of response you always have to these types of questions.
- BellePepper
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  Maybe you should asking them then.
- Asker
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  What?
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- BellePepper
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  Huh?
- prozmay
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  You masturbate to lesbian porn?
- TheBigGiantHead900
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  @BellePepper:>>> not this guy<<< Belle... that's like saying All Women are Bi... just not true.
- BellePepper
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  @TheBigGiantHead900 It's almost like this is some kind of learning experience or something 😒
- TheBigGiantHead900
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  @bellepepper: nope
- BellePepper
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  @TheBigGiantHead900 LMFAO boys never get it for some reason XD
InfoBot Guru
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Your mother was bisexual too then. And your grandmother. You have bisexual genes. You are also bisexual now.
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- Asker
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  Poke fun if you want, but peer reviewed scientific research shows that women are bisexual and men are straight, there is no antithesis.
- InfoBot
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  That scientific research has been countered many times and a proportion of around 30% has actually been suggested for women and bisexuality. There is no definitive science that has proven the case of 100% of women being bisexual. That is just bullshit. You can try and pretend otherwise but it's easier to shoot holes in than faked moon landings and 9/11 conspiracy theories.
- Asker
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  Countered many times? Cite one thing that is actually peer research that counteres this, not some article.
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- InfoBot
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  Cite your peer research and we will analyst the quality of it and look for the flaws. You go first, being as this is your proposition. It has to show that over 50% of women are bisexual. I'll wait...
- InfoBot
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  *analyse
- Asker
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  *peer reviewed scientific research. The studies can prove a majority bisexual as the chances of 500 plus subjects yielding the same results is impossible if most women are straight.
- InfoBot
  +1 y
  Sorry, peer reviewed, that was not a deliberate omission. Link the studies and let's have a look at them. I'm always interested to read scientific research that is credible.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Don't have enough exper to post a link, just type in "meridith chives all women are bisexual" and look for the research gate link for the university of Indiana. Dr Reigers Research is harder to find without me posting a link but it shouldn't take long to find it. And I know you have no link to counter beyond some article.
- InfoBot
  +1 y
  A quote from Dr Chivers herself: "To conclude that women are bisexual on the basis of their sexual responding overlooks the complexity and multidimensionality of female sexuality,” she wrote in her paper. She did allow that the apparent flexibility of women “may be related to greater potential for bisexuality in women than in men.” That in no way supports your claims. Her study, by the way, also showed female arousal responses to footage of Bonobo chimps mating. This is a huge fail on your part and I feel bad for you now.
- Asker
  +1 y
  She refers to them as ostensibly straight. I am on my phone so I can't quote, but the conclusionary sentence says the study adds to the growing body of work proving same sex attraction between women. The sentence you quoted simply is trying to convey that female sexuality is complex. She has a book called the biway in which she says women are bisexual. Dr Reiger flat out says "all women are either bisexuality or lesbian but never straight" chivers was the collaborative Dr on his research, Dr Chives certainly regards bisexuality as the female default.
- InfoBot
  +1 y
  She states quite definitively that you cannot conclude that women are bisexual without first considering the complexity of female sexuality. She have misquoted her and you have not read the research properly. This is a kill shot for you. I'm sorry that I was the one to have to deliver it.
- Asker
  +1 y
  *Bisexual or lesbian
- InfoBot
  +1 y
  *You have I admittedly fail at typing.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Read the conclusionary sentence of the study and adhere to semantics, go look at her book the biway, and look at her collaboration with Dr Reiger, she does consider women bisexual
- Asker
  +1 y
  Sorry it's called bit the way
- Asker
  +1 y
  *bi the way
- prozmay
  +1 y
  As far as I see it, the study says female sexuality is fluid, thus they couldn't be straight.
AzureGirl Master
+1 y
Nice try. There are straight girls out there.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Don't you admit to being bisexual? Even the girls that say they are straight masturbate to lesbian porn and have made out with girls.
- AzureGirl
  +1 y
  I don't admit to it because I'm not.
Warmapplecrumble Guru
+1 y
I prefer men for both :-p
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- Asker
  +1 y
  For both what?
- Warmapplecrumble
  +1 y
  Romance and sex
- Asker
  +1 y
  Preference and orientation are very different, just because you prefer men doesn't mean you aren't somewhat attracted to women and thus bisexual.
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- Warmapplecrumble
  +1 y
  I do feel like I am somewhat bisexual, but I prefer men 99.9 percent of the time :-)
- Asker
  +1 y
  So yes, you are still bisexual
- Warmapplecrumble
  +1 y
  :-( :-(
RealandGenuine1991 Xper 5
+1 y
😂😂😂😂 I love how you just keep beating a dead horse. just cause you know or hang around bi women doesn't mean every single woman is. this carp is getting so old, it's spoil rotten old
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- prozmay
  +1 y
  Most women masturbate to lesbian porn so...
- Shimy
  +1 y
  "most women" not all women
- Asker
  +1 y
  which shows most women are bisexual
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- DinaM
  +1 y
  @prozmay... no, they really don't.
- Asker
  +1 y
  They really don't what? don't masturbate to lesbian porn? @DinaM
- Shimy
  +1 y
  *sigh* please just stop. Your famous PornHub statistics don't include girls who don't watch porn + there are probably men who created women accounts
- Asker
  +1 y
  You said yourself in your last comment that most women masturbate to lesbian porn
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Precisely. Now, SOME women masturbate to lesbian porn. Quite a lot of women masturbate to lesbian porn, in fact. But not most, or all.
- Shimy
  +1 y
  I didn't say it I quoted the previous comment -_-
- Asker
  +1 y
  Most women who watch porn masturbate to lesbian porn, yet erroneously claim to be straight. And the ones who don't watch porn would probably masturbate to lesbian porn if they did watch porn @DinaM
- Shimy
  +1 y
  You can't know that.
- Asker
  +1 y
  O I see, didn't notice the inverted commas, my bad @shimy
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Soon as that "probably" entered your speech, you lost the credibility. You can't take a "probably" and turn it into a "definitely." You can't say "most women are bisexual, because I think that straight women would PROBABLY masturbate to lesbian porn." That's not proof, that's poorly-founded speculation.
- Asker
  +1 y
  I know the first sentence is true, and the second one is an extrapolation since most women who watch porn watch lesbian porn. @shimy
- Asker
  +1 y
  Well in tests (hooked up to a machine) women who claimed to be straight were aroused by the female body and lesbian porn (every single one of them 500 plus women, you may say that can't prove most women are bisexual, well what's the chance of 500/500? that makes the lottery seem like a safe bet in comparison). @DinaM
- Shimy
  +1 y
  Once again, a group of women CAN'T represent every single woman in this world
- Asker
  +1 y
  500/500 what are the chances?
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Okay, what were these tests... and more importantly, if you're already so convinced, why the hell did you ask a question about it?
- Asker
  +1 y
  Mytakes generally get less attention so... Look up Dr Chivers work and Dr Reigers work (I don't have enough exper to post a link)
- DinaM
  +1 y
  ...*giggle* this doesn't say most women are bisexual, it says most men are inadequate! "For exclusively heterosexual women, unfortunately the status quo is very low rates of experiencing sexual pleasure with their male partners." BWA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAA! That's priceless! We're not bisexual, you guys are just lousy lays! BWA HA HA HA HAAAAAAA!
- Shimy
  +1 y
  Lmao
- Asker
  +1 y
  What? explain in an extreme amount of detail please! like at least 700 characters, what you are saying now seems devoid of context or reference.
- Asker
  +1 y
  seriously ill need quotes and links to take what you have said seriously at all
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Yeah. Not fun when someone does this to you, is it?
- Asker
  +1 y
  Are you trying to say what i have said is as absurd as your last reply? what i have said is backed up by peer reviewed scientific research, you are trying any tactic because you don't have anything of substance.
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Nope. That's an actual quote. From Dr Chivers herself, the same person you told me to Google.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Maybe she did say that, but she also says female sexuality is fluid, And Dr Reiger, who she collaborates with says "women are either bisexual or gay but never straight". So men being "lousy lays" would just be a reason why women are bisexual, but they still are bisexual.
- DinaM
  +1 y
  In other words, you admit that your "most women are bisexual" is your interpretation of her studies, chosen because that's the interpretation that suits you the best to have. Well, I can have my own interpretation as well, and I choose to interpret that the study says men suck in bed.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Dr Reiger is just as qualified as her and they Collaborated on the same paper, and as I said, he says "women are either bisexual or gay but never straight". And it's not my interpretation of her work, she says female sexuality is fluid, if you are at least somewhat proficient at English, you would know that by definition someone with a fluid sexuallity can't be straight.
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Yeah. I remember from my history of philosophy class when "scientific studies" showed that all men wanted to fuck their mother too. This is the danger with taking a complex thing and trying to turn it into a simple statement -- usually said statement is inaccurate, overly-generalised or just plain wrong.
- Asker
  +1 y
  You idiot! Freudian philosophy isn't a scientific study!
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Before you call other people idiots, you should perhaps read the studies you cling to a little more clearly. It took me five minutes to find this: "Straight women’s vaginas proved to be the omnivores of the genital world, responding even to depictions of chimpanzee sex. But this doesn’t mean that straight women aren’t straight any more than it means they are all secretly into bestiality. It means you can’t conflate genital response with sexual orientation. How your body responds to a stimulus and how you feel, act, and think about that stimulus are two separate things. As Rieger explained to Yahoo, “[F]or a lot of women, what’s going on in their mind is disconnected from what’s going on in their lower body. If you tell me you’re straight, I won’t discredit that—I’m sure you are.” (cont)
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Sexual orientation is a lot more than what happens in your pants. The American Psychological Association (APA) defines it as “an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes.” It also refers to “a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.” exual orientation cannot be determined by a miniature dildo that measures blood flow. In fact, Chivers’ research has also shown that vaginal photoplethysmography cannot even accurately predict the self-reported arousal of straight women. In other words, there are many situations in which your vaginal blood flow might suggest arousal but you, yourself, do not even feel aroused. (cont)
- DinaM
  +1 y
  On the evolutionary angle, Rieger’s new study reviews literature that suggests that “[w]omen may have evolved to be sexually responsive in sexual context-dependent situations [rather than gender-dependent situations] in order to avoid genital injury.” In other words, because many species engage in forced heterosexual copulation, women’s genitals could be responsive to a wider variety of stimuli as a form of self-preservation. So, while social theories about male homophobia and the proliferation of female-centered sexual imagery are also compelling explanations, those who declare all women bisexual based on genital response patterns could, at worst, be deciding their orientation for them based on some sort of evolutionary reflex. (cont)
- DinaM
  +1 y
  And if you really want to know what orientation an adult woman is, you could also ask her, instead of believing that her vaginal blood flow speaks some secret truth. Sociological research suggests that straight women are more than capable of sorting out their orientation on their own, thank you very much. Female heterosexuality might be incredibly complicated—it certainly encompasses a wider pattern of behavior than male heterosexuality typically does—but it still exists. Just as college women’s same-sex sexual behavior cannot fully predict their orientation, studies of vaginal response are not sufficient to write an entire sexual orientation out of existence. Once again, with feeling: Straight women exist. And declaring otherwise, even in a headline, condescendingly implies that they aren’t capable of determining themselves how they feel and identify. That’s not science, it’s subtle sexism.
- Asker
  +1 y
  So wanting to bang your mom is a scientific study now? you avoided what was said. Where did you quote that from? I did an inverted commas search on that and it didn't come up anything Reiger said! You pasted that from an article or article comment, I can see what the internet holds with an inverted comma search Women had the absolute minim response to bonobos, the lowest measurable difference to the control, women however were more aroused by the female body than male body, and most aroused by lesbian porn.
- Asker
  +1 y
  "just as college women’s same-sex sexual behavior cannot fully predict their orientation," o god! so people who are not sexually attracted to their own gender by some degree fool around sexually with their same gender? hahahahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahahaha ok semantics and common sense are irrelevant The APA huh? you are her aren't you, last time you agreed that women have a fluid sexuality, which i showed by very defintion fits with the APA (whom have about 7 different definitions of sexual orientation published). And the rest of what you have said is PC bullshit about being whatever you claim, it doesn't even warrent a proper reply.
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Dude. Give it a REST. You are NOT a woman. You are not an authority on female sexuality. You can imagine that women are all bisexual and you can imagine us making out with each other and masturbating to lesbian porn all you want -- but that's all it is: It's a fantasy. Constantly insisting that there's no such thing as a straight woman, when dozens of women say otherwise, is INSULTING, CONDESCENDING, and it shows that you have no clue what you are talking about. And you ignore any and all counterarguments, and you keep harping on about that study even if you show about as much understanding of it as I understand rocket science, which is nil. Your statement is inaccurate, overly-generalizing, and plucked from headlines that misunderstood that the study was even about.
- Asker
  +1 y
  So then women who are more aroused by the female body than the male body are straight? that is an undeniable fact from the research (that women are more aroused by the female body than the male body.
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Wow. The point just flies straight over your head, doesn't it.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Enlighten me then
- DinaM
  +1 y
  That's what I've been trying to do for the past hour.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Specific to the last post or two please, I could just as easily say my point/s have gone over your head.
- DinaM
  +1 y
  Why bother? You've already proved that you're not going to listen to anything I say. No doubt you'll post more "most women are bisexual" comments and ignore all the straight girls who tell you they aren't. If a girl tells you she's straight -- SHE'S STRAIGHT. And this is me speaking, as an ACTUAL bisexual woman. I know I'm attracted to women. I ALSO know that most women I meet are NOT attracted to me. Saying otherwise, even if you keep referring to sensationalist media misunderstandings of studies from 2007, is not only inaccurate, it's insulting. I've given you quotes from both Chivers and Rieger that said different things, and you belittled them, and you belittled me. So, I'll just finish off by saying: Yes, bisexual women exist. But so do heterosexual women. Deal with it.
- Asker
  +1 y
  Of course you are bisexual, you are a girl."I've given you quotes from both Chivers and Rieger that said different things" links please! I know for a fact Reiger says "women are either bisexual or gay but never straight" . And just the simple data, everything from the studies raw data says that women are more aroused by the female body than the male body.
- Asker
  +1 y
  And lets not forget you quoted something that says women who have sex with girls in college are still straight... ahhahahahahhaaha ok
- Shimy
  +1 y
  Just stfu you can't assume someone's sexuality because as I already said a group of women just CAN'T REPRRSENT ALL WOMEN They certainly don't represent me
- Asker
  +1 y
  It represents most women
QueenofCups Master
+1 y
Bear in mind that girls on here are much more open about their deepest sexual fantasies than they are irl.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  That makes a difference how, they are still bisexual
- QueenofCups
  +1 y
  I think that most people of both sexes have occasional bisexual fantasies.
- Asker
  +1 y
  No tests have shown only women are bisexuality by default, men are straight.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  *bisexual
- QueenofCups
  +1 y
  Which tests?
- Asker
  +1 y
  Look up Dr Chivers and Dr Reigers studies
- QueenofCups
  +1 y
  I will. Thanks!
- Asker
  +1 y
  If I had more exper I would post a link
GirlRay Xper 6
+1 y
Omg I'd never have sex with a woman 😂
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Kissed a women? Masturbate to lesbian porn?
- GirlRay
  +1 y
  Nope
Crocuta Xper 3
+1 y
We're just irresistible, even to ourselves
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Anthropologists say women don't even have a sexual orientation, just an amorphous mess based on narcissistic sexual self affirmation (still technically bisexual though).
- Crocuta
  +1 y
  Oh, that's nice
Anpu23 Master
+1 y
80% of all humans measure as bisexual on the kinsy scale, 10% as gay and only 10% as straight. It's not just women my friend.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Measured by what?
- Anpu23
  +1 y
  The Kinsey Scale was a test developed in the 40s. The science is pretty well established. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
- Asker
  +1 y
  Yeah measured by what? I know the kisney scale 0 to 6, but what determined what number they are on the scale?
Shimy Guru
+1 y
Not all women...
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Almost all women, which is close enough.
- Shimy
  +1 y
  How exactly can you be so sure?
- Asker
  +1 y
  You have heard of the tests done right? all women involved were aroused by other women, the men were only aroused by men. The fact that lesbian porn is by far the most popular porn to women. The girls who don't watch lesbian porn generally don't watch porn at all, showing they aren't very visual which could open up the possibility of fluid sexuality. Scientists saying women are bisexual. All these women claiming to be straight yet making out with their friends etc. Certainly seems like the default for women is bisexuality.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  *the men were only aroused by women
- Shimy
  +1 y
  Well I'm straight, I certainly don't make out with my friends, and I don't watch lesbian porn. Seriously, why is this "question" such a big deal on this website? I haven't heard anywhere else
- Asker
  +1 y
  It's the most popular question on google answers, or yahoo, one of those two, which is a bigger site than this. But like I said, you probably don't watch any porn if you don't watch lesbian porn.
- Shimy
  +1 y
  I do actually. You can't just assume things like that.
- Asker
  +1 y
  What types? I thought I saw you say that you don't watch porn in some other thread.
- Shimy
  +1 y
  I never said that. Si you're the one who asked the exact same question some time ago? Aren't you tired of asking the same thing all over again? Cuz I'm getting tired of answering.
- Asker
  +1 y
  What types of porn? Ill keep asking it
- Shimy
  +1 y
  Keep asking then.
Shimy Guru
+1 y
No. Just, no. And don't mention scientific researches because a small group of women just can't represent each woman in this world.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  You masturbate to lesbian point?
- Shimy
  +1 y
  No I don't
- Shimy
  +1 y
  I never did
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Do you masturbate to porn
- Asker
  +1 y
  At all?
- Shimy
  +1 y
  why does it matter exactly?
- Asker
  +1 y
  If you did watch porn it would probably be lesbian porn, it is the most popular genre of porn to the female demographic (pornhub statistics)
- Shimy
  +1 y
  Lol eww no
disgustingweebtrash Master
+1 y
No such thing
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disgustingweebtrash Master
+1 y
Girls who watch lesbian porn aren't straight. And if they call themselves straight they are delusional
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- Asker
  +1 y
  I know, it's ridiculous that they think they are straight.
disgustingweebtrash Master
+1 y
Women who masturbate to lesbian porn and call themselves straight are stupid, they're not straight.
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- prozmay
  +1 y
  I know, it wouldn't bother me if they Just admitted that they are bisexual
CT_CD Master
+1 y
Most of them are
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- CT_CD
  +1 y
  I want MHO
- Asker
  +1 y
  I gave it to you, you can post two opinions, but I guess you can't get MHO twice.
- CT_CD
  +1 y
  You gave it to CT_CD
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- CT_CD
  +1 y
  You like him better than me?
- Asker
  +1 y
  You stupid dog, you make me look bad.
JoeJamal Xper 3
+1 y
Yess thank you!! I've been telling people this for years now!!!
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DieAnotherDay Xper 3
+1 y
bisexual, lesbian, pansexual, trisexual
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- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  3 of those aren't real xD
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps There are such women.
- Asker
  +1 y
  2 aren't real
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- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  you know I guess bisexual is real
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps Bisexual and Lesbian Very common
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  pansexual, trisexual these are not uncommon they aren't real xD
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps They are real. For example, I
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  Well I'm saying they aren't real and it's just a phase
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps okay okay. It's your idea. do not forget this =There is no such thing as not to be in this life.
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  yes there is unicorns don't exist. Trisexuals also don't exist just people trying to be special and different in a lazy way
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps Chat was fun. bye☺
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  LMAO cya
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps სჯდსა😄
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  oi vey are you a muzzie?
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps sorry😂
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps Muslim? Oh my God. You're funny.
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps I did not write in the Muslim language
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  Ya I'm pretty sure muslims would also kill you if they knew you were trigender pansexual
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  It's called Arabic and I know that's not Arabic
- DieAnotherDay
  +1 y
  @AfrikaKorps are you Muslim?
- AfrikaKorps
  +1 y
  nope
Bella19969 Xper 2
+1 y
I don't agree. I'm only attracted to men and never, ever fantasized about women.
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Anonymous
+1 y
Blue Anon, you forget all the guys who also J. O. to gay porn.
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- Asker
  +1 y
  Yeah they are called gay men.
- Opinion Owner
  +1 y
  Fluid men
- Asker
  +1 y
  Which would mean they are bisexual then.
Anonymous
+1 y
More asexual , than bisexual !!
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