From the graph, around 1 in 3 (likely higher due to men lying about their virginity) men are effectively incel. What, if anything, should be done to combat this.
Lack of intimacy is tied to many mental disorders, not to mention the potential tax and population catastrophe waiting to happen.
Nearly 30% of men under the age of 30 are incel, what, if anything, should be done?
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28 87Sounds like we have to do a better job of teaching young men social skills.
Young men and women alike.
@FreshOutaIdeas Agreed!
They should learn that no human is entitled to another human and get over themselves.
Listen, I get it. It sucks when you can't get someone who's into you, but incels don't at all acknowledge that their toxic views around being owed sex and the idea that sex is the cure to their mental illnesses and disabilities (which is not a cure for either, by the way, proper mental health coaching, psychotherapy, re-socialization and possibly medication is) are inherently toxic and self-serving. If you obsess so much over the idea that you are owed sex despite the fact that you are toxic, ill, and offering nothing but expectations, there's nothing anyone can do for you until you choose to acknowledge that you are the problem and you need help.
"It's your fault you're short and ugly"
@incelposting not going to patronize or being funny but... You just turned 18 right? So wtf you know about life, hard life, starving, sex or relationship? And what and who allow you to talk that way to @chronicthinke r? Huh? I think that a friendly slap would bring order to you! Seriously i am fading up with this fucking shit where kids thinks they can do everything and can say everything... Well you can but be ready to take consequences! Yeah... Go and make your eyebrows done boy
Sex is a human right. All men are entitled to it. Women think only the top 5% of men are worthy of it, and that's what causes so much problems in society 😡
I'm 23
Jesus christ, this isn't about the loud minority of incels. It's about how many men don't get sex in general
@sierzant "And what and who allow you to talk that way to @chronicthinke r? Huh?" He's spot on, that's that. What gives you the right to knock down another user on grounds that he's younger than the person he's debating? incelposting delivered a concise and devastating takedown of ChronicThinker's self-serving and seething word salad, and you have NOTHING to say in response, so you grasp for the argument from authority. Nope! That doesn't work here. Try again with a response that befits your age and status rather than one that entirely relies on them.
I'm a firm believer in harnessing male sexual frustration and celibacy, and channeling it to provide various benefits for sexually active women and more masculine guys who are routinely enjoying sex with them.
Please allow me to explain: if the powers that be, i. e., government, social services, etc, endeavor to make it less daunting for frustrated incels to have intercourse with attractive women, this will only address the symptoms of the problem, not the underlying problem itself. Rather than coddling the pathetic wimps who are hopelessly incapable of getting their dicks inside a woman's pussy, I believe they should be forced to serve the superior men and women whom they idolize.
Whether this is accomplished by serving others as a personal maid, slave or domestic servant, or as a long term indentured laborer, etc, I think that any assistance to give them access to conventional sex should be part of a compulsory program in which they're able to repay their debt to society as a permanently celibate social outcast.
I don't think anyone should be overly concerned about the incel phenomenon or the fact that we're not capable of getting our dicks wet. To the contrary, I believe that both men and women must take a hard line in regards to our pathetic plight, and enforce a program of restitution to allow us to repay our debt to society, as well as the women we've harassed and objectified. Please resist any urges to sympathize with us, because if you show us any compassion, you'll only delay the inevitable -- our permanent status as losers.
The survey only addresses celibacy. It does not differentiate between men who are INvoluntarily celibate aka "incel" versus men who choose to be celibate. A small but statistically significant number of men choose not to have sex outside of marriage for religious, moral or cultural reasons.
"Lack of intimacy is tied to many mental disorders, not to mention the potential tax and population catastrophe waiting to happen." This reminds me of the argument of, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg". Lack of close relationships in a person's life can definitely affect a person's ability to cope with the rigors of life, which may lead to or worsen mental illness. On the other hand, people suffering from mental illness are likely to have more difficulty than the average person when it comes to finding and maintaining relationships with other people.
I think there needs to be a war.
Get yourself a sex robot ! Leave everyone else out of it!
Good one coach!
@shimmeryns Hey thanks!
Coach, when are you getting your own talk show! I want that merch!
@Rocky_Jocky57 Ha Ha Ha soon soon... I will give you my discount code!
@coachTanthony you sould get like a radio studio to start, then become the new Oprah, but instead, its just "Coach" or "Coach T" getting all those views! I can see you passing out not only wisdom, but sweatshirts for all!
@Rocky_Jocky57 I had my own podcast for a while.. probably still on itunes LOL
Virginity does not make you a incel. Your view of females does. If men are virgins longer its because they rather do other things than please women. But that doesn't necessarily means they have a bad view of them, they are just not worth it compared to other activities.
Incels can only help themselves. Which they usually refuse to do, so whatever.
This graph isn't just about the loud minority of incels who obviously don't want to change. It's about virgin men in general, most of whom I think try or have tried to help themselves.
@Lite3000 The Asker asked about incels, who are a specific kind of adult virgins. So I answered.
Nothing.. it’s not the worlds responsibility of you can’t get laid.
Exactly. 👏👏
This is silly
Nothing. Why should we care?
Yes, lack of intimacy is something I consider an issue... but that doesn’t mean everyone should just be having sex as if that’s the answer to every problem and mental condition. How about we learn to communicate, or feel safe hugging each other (without the extra social stigmas), or cry in front of their friends and family, grow a healthy community. I guarantee those things would help with mental illness way more than boning.
Because men may not do these things lest they bet considered weak by females. That and unattractive men are shut out from all non familial forms of intimacy
That’s why I threw in the “(without the extra social stigmas)” and focused on building a healthy community. A healthy community does not neglect the emotional needs of an unattractive person just because of the way they look. A healthy community does not focus relentlessly on sexual and romantic interaction like it’s the end-all-be-all. What you are suggesting is some quick fix that doesn’t actually fix anything.
population catastrophe? surely if we had 30 percent les kids running round for a bit the world might have some hope of getting back to sustainable levels of human occupancy... as for the rest of it... its up to them and means more women for the rest of us anyway lol
An aging population with no replacement is asking for trouble
And there won't be more women for you. There will be more females for chad. We're approaching 99/1 rule fast.
you said 30 percent of men not 100 so i think thats a bit alarmist and as for your other comment, i dont know what you are trying to say
It does beg the question as to what he thinks should be done about this what fixes he thinks people should do
@boggboss yeah but going back to what i was saying to you earlier i think we both already know the answer lol
I'm telling you the laughs me and my friends get from this stuff is priceless
For a start, maybe the recognition of immense female privilege.
@boggboss even my cats piss themselves lol
🤣🤣🤣 because that will get them men women won't it
gosh yeah sorry i was forgetting how privileged women are now they have somewhere near the same rights as men and still get judged by their looks rather than their intellect... those lucky old women eh? now back to the real world lets talk about social media and moder millenial buzz terms becoming a way for the less secure in society to join together and vilify another group for their own shortcomings
No, females don't have anywhere near the same rights as men, they have far more rights than men
really?
You think he will name there privileges
@boggboss seeing as he ignored my comment on what it must be like to be assesed as having any worth just on tits rather than intellect i very much doubt it ;)
Live longer Retire earlier Receive more tax than they contribute at nearly all stages of life (meaning that any female in the population is a defacto tax burden) Favourable treatment in courts Are automatically believed when levelling accusations, no matter how outlandish Suicide less Homeless less often Perform better in education Looks standards are far less strenuous and are based on controllable attributes (men instead being judged on characteristics of their skeletal structure, requiring surgery at minimum to change it) Are less likely to be the victim of nearly every crime Cannot be incel
many on that list aren't true here in the uk... men are doing better in schools we have equal rights to paternity leave the retirement age has gone up, taxes are pay related and women still get paid less, courts do not favour women and infact whilst there is a rise in reported rapes the conviction rate has gone down oh and here the kicker.. a lot of mens suicides are attributed to pressures of being a traditional man and having to take on board the traditional roles so surely if women were now able to stand by our sides and share the burden the rates may start to decline... you just either dont like women or you are scared of them as is every other incel or misogynist i ever met... wrap it up in millenial speak all you like but basically you are what we would have called back in the day, a sexist pig
Females outperform men at all levels of education Females earn less due to their choices, and remain a tax burden Females report rapes if an Ugly man walks near her, and the cases get thrown out, hence reports Men still have restricted gender roles (because they are less privileged), and females don't want any part of that (because it involves work), hence massive suicide rates. And yes, I am scared of females, they can destroy my life with no effort. Being sexist is nothing to do with it, females love sexist men if they're physically attractive. I'm just telling the truth.
No you are simply talking a load of shit yet think a women will want you for being a dickhead like wtf if you think like a idiot it's no wonder women don't want you
Females don't want me because I'm short and ugly, as for being a dickhead, females love dark triad personality traits.
Lol you think women don't want you because your short my brother is 5"6 and pulls women stop being a loser
Nothing can be done or should be they simply have to learn to change what is wrong
That's a rather dangerous statement
How and why sorry?
Hail Gilead Hail Elliot Rodger Etc. Etc. Etc.
There will always be retards and crazy people that will do shit for some reason or another that you feel people need to do something to help guys who can't get girlfriend is part of the reason they can't get a girlfriend no one is entitled to a partner it's somthing you have to work at if they can't they won't that simple if they want to do some dumb shit over it they would have most likely done that dumb shit over somthing just as stupid later on in life
Nothing you wrote makes any sense. And as for entitlement, try asking females about entitlement, theyre the most entitled people in the history of earth. Plus, if I'm not "entitled" to a partner, despite doing everything right, as I was told, what is my incentive to continue trying, to continue being a productive member of society? I've fulfilled my end of the bargain.
There is no bargin lol all you can do is try to attract a make her of the oppersit sex there is however a garuntie it will work lol you keep saying somthing needs to be done but what as you are the only 1 that seems entitled as if you are owed a women for some stupid reason
I'm short and ugly, that means females despise me. Why should I continue to try?
I cannot remember what incel means and I don't feel like looking it up,
Nothing. Not bothering me or affecting my life. I couldn't care less how they choose to live their lives.
The sample size on that study and the respondents location are very telling.
That number is incredibly high compared to reality.
I think it should be mandatory for all women to have sex with men whenever they ask.
U sound like a guy using a girl account
I was jk. This is obviously a troll.
It's true tho. If rape was legal there wouldn't be anymore mass shooting. All men would be happy and sexually satisfied.
I'd say ban them from the internet would work wonders. I've git a lot of mental fortitude, but spending more than a few minutes in an incel forumn depresses me for the whole day.
"Reality is too depressing, I want to remain ignorant"
More like they are depressing and should be kept seperated from each other.
Pretty much there are many reasons behind it. Girls tend to go for the jocks or the dominant male of there group so when we talk about the declining Highschool sexual activity we are seeing it less and less do a lack of dominant males. 2 there is of course free porn why go out and look for it when your hand can do the work for you. 3 (my own opinion) the stupid metro movement and the femmist movement has poisoned men and women’s minds “ oh he glanced at my boobs sexual harassment “. Or “women don’t need men”. Which are completely lies. Men and women need each other 1 for reproductive purposes 2 for companionship 3 emotional support men and women in a relationship look to each other for support physical and emotionally. It is bad to discourage the family unit yes but the communist love breaking down family values
Wait isn't this what guys want? Why else would women get labelled and abused for being sexually active...
Hahaha! Oh shit, good one, i'm stealing that.
Not all guys but yeah it's totally ironic when incels complain about women being sluts.
... how is it ironic that men who choose not to date are mad at women being sluts? Maybe they want a nice girl but have had too many close calls with sluts and gave up? Thats essentially where im at, im no virgin but I wouldn’t care if I was, the sex iv had was stupid teenage shit and didn't mean anything to me... And yeah she was a slut, just like all the other girls iv been close to romantically. The one girl I really did consider getting into a relationship with was secretly blowing my best friend while begging me to date her and wondering why I was hesitant. Trust your gut guys
@Shamalien so you had meaningless sex... yet you're not a slut... But women who have are? Double standard much
I had. Once. A woman who had meaningless sex once is not a slut, she just made a mistake and learned from it
@Shamalien you answered your own problem... They gave up. If you don't play the game, don't expect to win. I've been cheated on by two different girls but I don't go around blaming all women for the actions of a couple of assholes and I didn't give up. Getting hurt, getting cheated on, getting manipulated or used are all risks men and women face when seeking out a relationship. When it happens it sucks... It hurts. But that's how it goes. You can either stick it out, learn from those experiences and eventually find someone compatible... Or you can give up. Either way, you made a choice and it's your responsibility, not anyone else's. If you give up, don't come crying to anyone else because nobody will care.
Look man im not saying there are no good women out there, but in my part of the world, the culture is degenerated fully, women having casual sex is seen as a good thing and I dont want no used up tissue. I plan to make some money, become the man I wanna be, then go searching for a foreign lady who was raised right. As a man in my 20s Im in no rush to find my girl
Main thing is im not willing to lie or pretend to be someone im not which makes it difficult to get along with the more brainwashed sex. Its difficult enough to get along with anyone for someone like me, but women are just so fking fake... thats part of the reason i like this site, women here are often much more honest than in real life. Iv seen foreign women be much more honest too, but on the west coast of NA its like a hive mind they all repeat the mantra its scary shit
" women having casual sex is seen as a good thing and I dont want no used up tissue. " if you dont want "an used up tissue", you should not be one too.
Read what I said after dipshit and men are different than women for the last time. I had sex once in my life and the next time it won't be meaningless I am not a slut and id happily date a girl that had had meaningless sex once and learned from it
Does not matter. If you think a girl who sleep around is a slut, then a boy who do it is also a slut. Dont be hypocritical. Men are not children, they should learn to face consequences. I am not saying you are a slut, i am just critizise the hypocrisy.
I am happy you learn from your actions but stop looking bad at girls or boys who sleeps around. You can't call their names, but do the same at the same time as them.
@kim45456 holy fuck you insufferable retard READ WHAT I SAID!!! Where is your comprehension at? Read a fucking book then come back and read what I said and maybe you'll understand it fuck me god dammit people are dumb
@kim45456 THERE IS NO HYPOCRISY!!!
Hahaha says the male hoe
Go fuck yourself you dumpshit. You are hypocritical but can't accept it
@kim45456 okay you're clearly just a troll. I had sex literally once in my entire life and ur calling me a hoe. Funny stuff.
@kim45456 by the way, just to clarify for anyone reading... I did say that if a girl had casual sex once and not again, she is not a slut and I would totally date her. I told it to you, but you clearly didn't listen. So to be clear, if a girls actions DIRECTLY PARALLELED MY OWN, I would not consider her a slut and would date her. Now remind me where the hypocrisy is? Oh wait I'm talking to a fucking wall half the time and I can see why the world is so dumb, people like me got bitter and gave up!
I am sorry. My fault.
@kittycat119 Sex is never meaningless, as long as the woman is thoroughly satisfied and content afterwards, in my opinion.