Drunk Clubs One night stands Feeling used Vd tests Pregnancy scars Abortions Why is he horrified by my past... it is only 18 guys and threesomes
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Barry88Yoda
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Are they really, or are they just hiding it better?
And sometimes they're not even hiding it. The US president says he's a conservative. But he likes to grab 'em by the pussy.
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Deathly_PheonixXper 5
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Because many of them are basing all their facts on ancient ideologies the religious governments set in place long ago, such as monogamy. Many of the rules lined out by these religious governments weren't religiously founded at all, they were created to control the population. But it made such a mark in history that people still think these false preachings to be true.
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ADFSDF1996Editor
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Bit of a loaded question don’t you think? It’s like asking why are liberals against straight marriage and tradition. And then trying to subtly associate liberals with socialists and commies.
And no, conservatives aren’t “anti sex” they simply believe people should only have sex with a partner after marriage.
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JesseTheMan
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Never mentioned socialists or communists so not sure how they relate tothis.
ADFSDF1996
+1 y
No you didn’t but you did liken Conservatives to nazis and fascists.
Agape93Master
+1 y
They seek control, fuck freedoms :/
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NorthwestRider
+1 y
Yet they claim to be pro freedom lol
Agape93
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Don’t they always? Lol
NorthwestRider
+1 y
The Libertarians do
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Agape93
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Not all of us, thankfully. I’m all for individual freedom as long as it fits within societal/governmental order. Basically, do what you want as long as it’s legal and you can morally justify it.
NorthwestRider
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I like libertarians, they stay out of people personal lives while the Republicans want to control people personal lives
Agape93
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Indeed, yet they don’t like big government butting into their personal lives
NorthwestRider
+1 y
The Republicans are big fat hypocrites
Agape93
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Definitely
NorthwestRider
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The Republicans just want to turn this country into Saudi Arabia, they love power and hate freedom. No wonder why they love the police so much
Agape93
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And the army. Who better to enforce dominion?
NorthwestRider
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Never trust them!!
Agape93
+1 y
Never have. I’ll trust individuals but that’s as far as it goes
Apope16Editor
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jealousy and narcissism. their values dont allow them to enjoy sex as much. so out of spite and jealousy they get a rise out of putting down others who are doing what they secretely want to do. Its like those people who are homosexual but hate and discriminate against gays because they feel insecure about their nature. They dont even realize that god created us to have sex. to be fruitful and multiple. sex is literally what we are supposed to be doing. only the church and religion tries to control how we do it or the marital status we have when we fuck.
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Bananaman177Guru
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Sex is fun, but it also destroys lives and rips families apart. Maybe it's a good thing not to take it so fucking goddamned lightly. Maybe just maybe.
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HarmseygraceYoda
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Conservatives aren't anti-sex. They're pro-morals. We're not animals nor cavemen, we don't need to go around giving ourselves away willy nilly. People need to start getting married earlier, then they wouldn't feel the need for it.
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JesseTheMan
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Aka "don't have fun and pretend like you're not a human being"
Harmseygrace
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We're still human beings. We just have more standards on how to act now. We don't still hunt for food, do we?
BlueberryTwist
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We are indeed animals by definition, and we are about 99% identical to Neolithic humans from our appearance to the way we think and emote.
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Harmseygrace
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@BlueberryTwist It doesn't mean we should act like animals.
BlueberryTwist
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"We don't still hunt for food, do we?" Yes, yes we do. All the time. In a plethora of countries. From Canada and America to the far east of Russia. People hunt.
Barry88
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In my country, more than 50% of the marriages ends within a couple of years in divorce. So what's the worth of marriage nowadays?
BlueberryTwist
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We are animals, we act like what we are whether you can comprehend that or not.
Harmseygrace
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I think you're both missing the point. Are we dogs? Do we lick our parts and eat filthy things? No. We're much more evolved than that. We have self control, morals, standards, etc. Yes, we are 'sexual beings'. We're here to have children. But that's the point, we're here to have families, not to go around having as much sex as possible.
JesseTheMan
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We are literal animals, there is no way we could ever not act like animals, by definition.
Barry88
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@Harmseygrace Good that you're mentioning the word morals. These morals are not universal, they can be different from person to person. Your moral standards might be different than those of other people.
BlueberryTwist
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"Do we eat filthy things?" Considering you're not one for hunting your own food, I have no doubt you eat filthy things pumped full of chemicals on a nearly daily basis and indulge in fast food. Standards and morals are subjective, and self control isn't always present. Step outside of whatever incredibly tiny box you're in and do a smidge of research.
Harmseygrace
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@BlueberryTwist You're taking what I'm saying well out of context. There's a big difference between junk food (which I actually don't eat a lot of, thank you very much) and a dead rat. @JesseTheMan What you both are saying doesn't make much sense. Yes we're animals, but we sure don't act like ones. We're humans. @Barry88 There is worth of marriage if it's with the right person. If you share the same morals, vision for the future, beliefs, then there's a much higher chance of it working out. People don't find the right people for them nowadays and they give up too easily.
BlueberryTwist
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Yeah, a dead rat is meat that is on par to the dead cows and dead chickens people eat on a daily basis. Humans are animals, so acting like a human is acting like an animal. You should stop skipping biology, it comes in handy.
Harmseygrace
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@BlueberryTwist False. Dead rats carry diseases, meat from farms don't. Meat from farms are safe to eat, a rat in a mousetrap or roadkill on the side of the road isn't. We give dogs raw meat, why don't humans eat raw meat? I'm not skipping biology. A lot of my beliefs come from biology actually.
BlueberryTwist
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Cows carry disease too, in fact BSE was pretty serious for a long time. All animals are at risk of carrying a disease, deadly or otherwise. Carpaccio, Ossenworst, Chee kufta, Carne apache, etc. All raw meat dishes that are pretty frequently eaten.
Ámayas_20
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@Harmseygrace I a conservative and agree with your base point but the solution is NOT getting married earlier, that's just going to lead to divorces and children growing up in broken homes or worse homes where their parents don't like each other.
TonyMetal_1986
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I agree with what @Harmseygrace have said, 100%... I believe that a teenage girl is smarter than you both... Or you both are a couple of atheist who have no values or morals in life... When something bad happens you go cry and nag that you want law and justice or talk about what's wrong and what's right, a human is different than all animals, humans are the children of god... Sex always comes after marriage and if people doesn't know the values and compromises and commitments of a marriage, it doesn't means that a marriage is a failure, it means that people are the failure.
BlueberryTwist
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Ohhh right, like that time Adam and Eve had 2 kids way before the concept of marriage was even mentioned in the bible right? Or that time god impregnated a 16 year old woman that we wasn't in a relationship with? Or what about Lilith, Adam's first wife who he abandoned for someone else. That surely means Adam is a failure in your eyes. Trying to reference an ancient book of logical flaws and errors won't do you much when it comes to the idea of human biology. Up the argument a tad, Tony.
TonyMetal_1986
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@BlueberryTwist oh really, from where did you come up with all this, from conspiracies who are against christians or what? I know all of these and lilith is an evil woman and that's of it was true, also the new testament came to correct everything that happened in the past and to continue the right path, i look at jesus and does his teachings, also adam and eve is a metaphoric story, but it's made for smart people and not shallow minded people who fishes word by word from the book and argue about it.
BlueberryTwist
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Bible is supposed to be flawless, but you just admitted there are mistakes. Lilith is not evil, only a goddess pre-existing the religion of Christians that they tried to pervert.
TonyMetal_1986
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@BlueberryTwist not me saying that there mistakes, i said that there are metaphors and the mistakes were that they were too harsh while jesus wanted to teach us more forgivness and more good to each other and he's the one, the son of god while others were all humans! You can't proof everything in a historic way and that's why it's faith and not science! I'm a man of science but i never mix both with each other since both are very different than each other! Faith is faith and science is science! I have no formula that i can test in the lab to show you that god is real, there are signs since the dawn of time, you choose if you want to believe or not... period!
BlueberryTwist
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We all expected more from you, Tony ol' boy. You can't keep contradicting yourself
TonyMetal_1986
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@BlueberryTwist there is no contradiction, it's some facts that you just chose not to accept and your free, that's all 😏
BlueberryTwist
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Other than all the contractions you've put forth, naturally
888theGreat
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Yep that is right.
888theGreat
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@BlueberryTwist Maybe you are
888theGreat
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@Barry88 When you get married , you don't if it will end in divorce. That is like saying everyone dies , lets all commit suicide.
Barry88
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@888theGreat Everyone marries with the intention to stay together. Nobody marries with the idea "Hey, let's divorce in a couple of years from now!" But the fact is that many people want to end their marriage after a couple of years. The intentions were good, it just didn't work out. I know so many people in their 20s and 30s which are divorced, or which are in their 2nd marriage...
TonyMetal_1986
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@Barry88 that's because you never truly loved each other and doesn't believe in the values and the committment of marriage and doesn't consider it sacred!
meesegoMoo
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@Barry88 Not going to pretend the woman you're arguing with is remotely intelligent, but you are. That's why I think it's worth replying to you. The divorce rate is so high because of the people who get married 6+ times in their life. People who have a successful marriage the first time are disproportionately people who didn't sleep around before marriage. I have a religious morality. I don't expect other to because that would be ridiculous for those who aren't in my religion. I'm just saying the marriage argument isn't the one to use here. Thank you for reading.
Shamalien
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@BlueberryTwist rofl where’d u hear that? 99% similar? There’s not a single shared bone between us and the lower hominids, and we act very, very differently. We aren’t travelling tribes anymore for one, we use agriculture instead of hunting, we don’t sacrifice virgins to the hungry gods
meesegoMoo
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@BlueberryTwist Sorry I'm so late to this, but where did you get your religious education? Lilith was added in to the Judeo-Christian creation story as part of a slew of anti=Semitic propaganda. She was the thief of children in order to give the Jews a reason to commit all thee acts under blood liable they were accused of. Notice in ancient Christianity, Islam, and historical Judaism she isn't present in the story. I swear these things are immortal. Just like people who claim that Jews worship Yaldabaoth.
kim45456
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Divorce rate is high when people marry young. Look at the statistics
888theGreat
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@kim45456 Because they don't date 1 to 2 years before they marry and they don't ask each other the right questions. Like have kids are not, Size of home, religion, etc.
meesegoMoo
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@888theGreat Even those who move rather quickly can be successful if they spend their time well. Religious dating can be very intense. And they don't always marry young either, I know a pretty happy couple who were both virgins when they married at 26 (couple months age difference).
77gnat
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Omg hahahaha I can't tell if Harmsey is trolling or not. Is it possible anyone can be so wrong about every single thing? No way is this a real account. This thread was hilarious. My favorite is probably the no hunting thing. Good work lol.
meesegoMoo
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@77gnat Honestly thought she was a troll too. The all the animal stuff made no damn sense.
wisefool
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@BlueberryTwist grow up. we are animals by one definition and by the other definition we are not. the reason people use different words for animals and humans is because people don't consider them the same thing. you're getting too caught up in semantics instead of making a point.
77gnat
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@wisefool : P she was probably eating a cheeseburger sitting next to her leather handbag.
Ámayas_20Explorer
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Conservaties aren't anit-sex, we're anti lack of responsibility for your choices, and anti shoving sex and sexuality down people's throats. Do whatever you want but shut the fuck up about it and stop pretending it's free from consequences.
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JesseTheMan
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Sex and sexuality is normal and everyone needs to be educated about them. Stop hating fun.
Ámayas_20
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Educating is highly different from what you want. Keep what you get up to to yourself and no one will have a problem.
NorthwestRider
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Conservatives are the anti fun police, they just want to control your lives
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Ámayas_20
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@NorthwestRider I really don't think you understand what you're talking about.
JesseTheMan
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Giving people real, healthy sex education is important. Grow up
NorthwestRider
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She will not listen, she is just a clueless conservative religious nut who thinks with her emotions and not by logic
Ámayas_20
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@JesseTheMan Sex education and going around talking about sex in day to day life are very different things, all teenagers should of course receive proper sex education but that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're asking about.
Ámayas_20
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@NorthwestRider I'm an atheist who bases all her beliefs in rationality and logic. You show yourself to be so clearly ignorant making statements so false about people you don't know at all.
NorthwestRider
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Conservatives are not logical, they are full of emotions and can't think straight
Ámayas_20
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@NorthwestRider No... you might not agree with us but conservative beliefs aren't illogical, I can see there's really not much point in going in-depth here so I'll leave it at that for now.
NorthwestRider
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I find conservatives anti freedom and want the government to control people lives expect for the Libertarians. I have respect for the Libertarians!!
Ámayas_20
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@NorthwestRider Then you don't have a good understanding of conservatism, if you actually want to have a talk I'm perfectly open to it.
NorthwestRider
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Just look at Saudi Arabia, they are super conservative and they hate freedom and people having rights
Ámayas_20
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@NorthwestRider No. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state and a monarchy that has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism it actually goes against conservatism. As I already told you you seem to lack the knowledge about what conservatism actually is.
NorthwestRider
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How about Uganda, a conservative Christian country where people lack any freedom there? Their government is super authoritarian. Are you denying the fact that Saudi Arabia is a conservative country?
Ámayas_20
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@NorthwestRider Okay so first Uganda, with my around average knowledge on Uganda I can tell you again it is not conservative but far-right underdeveloped country and believe it or not doesn't have an official religion, while the majority of the population are Christian the country itself is not a Christian nation. I'm not denying Suidia Arabia is conservative I'm telling you it isn't. You have absolutely no knowledge about what conservatism is whatsoever, again if you actually want to know and have a chat I'm up for that.
meesegoMoo
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Honestly the woman with the a my keyboard doesn't have is right mostly. The points on Saudi Arabia and Uganda are spot-on and she is much better at argument. I will say this though, there is much overlap between libertarianism and conservatism. I think any country under religious rule does poorly. I'm saying that as a religious person so don't be offended please. Some of us base opinions on logic and keep them separate from morals. I can't fornicate, it's a sin against my god. It would be ridiculous of me to expect others who don't hold that belief to adhere to it. Policy should never be decided by religion. I'm more than a touch libertarian though.
Ámayas_20
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@meesegoMoo Thank you, you're exactly right.
JesseTheMan
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If you have a problem with open and healthy sexuality and representing it in real lifr, you are very much anti sex. And yes, Saudi-Arabia is indeed very conservative.
Ámayas_20
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@JesseTheMan No those are completely different things as so many people have tried to explain to you so I do feel this is wasted but here I go, you can do whatever you want but no you shouldn't go around broadcasting it, especially in public, keep that shit to yourself or those who ask. This isn't anti-sex by any means that's like saying you're anti-porn if you don't watch it full volume on your phone at the back of a bus. I'm gathering you've probably also ignored what I said so I'll give another brief explanation, Saudi Arabia is not conservative it's a right-wing Islamic state, these are not the same thing like I offered the other guy if you want to actually learn about conservatism and what it is I'd always be happy to talk to you.
Ámayas_20
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I've*
Jerkface4444
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@Ámayas_20 what’s your example of a conservative country if Saudi Arabia isn’t?
Ámayas_20
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@Jerkface4444 This is actually a far more complex question than you believe it to be, no country in the world today is properly conservative, just as none is properly liberal, or properly any specific political view. This is because in democracy, an essential part of the conservative view, doesn't really allow for such a monolith to be created. The reason I can say that Saudi Arabia is not conservative is that individual liberty is a core value of conservatism something that doesn't exist in any country with Islamic rule. For countries that are conservative well as I said no country is completely conservative but believe it or not the united states still holds many conservative ideals and beliefs even if the left in the us are trying and slowly are destroying them.
meesegoMoo
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What's your take on classical liberalism? I agree mostly, but I do prefer a smaller government. I think the ideal of free expression and freedom of education/thought is admirable.
Jerkface4444
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@Ámayas_20 the United States failed though
Jerkface4444
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What is free? Or conservative what the United States?
meesegoMoo
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@Jerkface4444 How so? Especially compared to Saudi Arabia?
Jerkface4444
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@meesegoMoo economically, it is doing pretty bad. The US is more left wing than the whole Middle East besides Israel.
meesegoMoo
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@Jerkface4444 Left-wing right-wing isn't the same as leftist or conservative. Liberals and conservatives have a significant amount of overlap with each-other, leftist policies have more in common with extreme right-wing governments.
whywhywhywhwyXper 3
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Cause they tend to be religious or "traditional," which are both stupid things that go against logic.
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Girther10
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Says the preschooler with the name whywhywhywhywhywhy... lol 😅🤣🤣you wouldn’t know logic if it slapped you on the butt...
whywhywhywhwy
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@Girther10 what a silly reply by someone whose username is girther10
Girther10
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This is why I’ve always pushed to have a children’s section here. Bc of yourkiddy like replies that defy even the least bit of logic or common sense. You can’t expect to insult millions of Americans and not get called out for it... but you just managed to do exactly that, someday when you grow up you will look back on this and cringe, and rightly so..
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Girther10
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@whywhywhywhywhywhywhywhy- you prob don’t even know what girther means... 😅😅🤣
Jackpot777s
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Tradition doesn't go against logic there is nothing wrong with having morals and values.
whywhywhywhwy
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@Jackpot777s you do when they are stupid or harmful, like circumcision and denying rights to people.
Jackpot777s
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Well on the gay rights thing marriage is between a man and a woman and that is the definition of it so they didn't deny them rights they just didn't want to accept that their type of marriage is a civil union.
whywhywhywhwy
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@Jackpot777s here's the definition I googled: "Marriage is the process by which two people make their relationship public, official, and permanent. It is the joining of two people in a bond that punitively lasts until death, but in practice is often cut short by separation or divorce." And you proved my point exactly. Holding onto something for the sake of preserving tradition alone is beyond stupid.
Jackpot777s
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You can google all you want of course google is owned by far left liberals who believe what they want not the truth marriage is between a man and a woman that is the original and real definition of it. I don't need some controlled search result hiding bastards such as google to tell me what it is.
whywhywhywhwy
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@Jackpot777s Ok, prove it. And I love that argument, denying credibility cause it suits your narrative. I bet you're religious too. but that's ok, free will doesn't exist so it's not really your fault.
Ámayas_20
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@whywhywhywhwy No, it goes against what you believe that has nothing to do with 'logic'
whywhywhywhwy
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@Ámayas_20 your right, which makes it stupid.
Ámayas_20
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@whywhywhywhwy Are you really so naive to believe just because you one 17 year old girl with very little experience of the world or politics disagree with something it's stupid? You really need to grow up.
888theGreat
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I will take the 1950's over today , anytime.
888theGreat
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@Girther10 If you are conservative , she complains assault, if a liberal , he was playing around.
TonyBologna25
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Logic says that the rate of divorce and infidelity has increased dramatically since progressive culture starting become big. Logic says that more and more women are clinically depressed because we’ve deviated from traditional gender roles. Logic shows that women are happiest working a part time job and raising the kids rather than focusing her whole life on a career. Logic says that men are happiest being the bread winner. Logic says that the more women act like men, the more unattractive they become. Logic says the more men act like women, the more unattractive they become. Logic also shows that couples who cohabit prior to marriage have a much higher rate of divorce. Logic says the healthiest couples are ones who didn’t have prior promiscuous behavior. Logic says the more promiscuous you are, the higher your statistical chance to cheat in marriage is. Logic says that promiscuous behavior is toxic in a lot of ways. Logic says that we as a society function best within more traditional roles.
SomeGuyCalledTomGuru
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Tbh I used to think similar to this, but in recent years i noticed its the bleeding heart liberals who have weird double standards on sexuality. On one hand they organise "slut walks" where girls get naked and show how shameless they are in their sexual promiscuity. But then in the same breath, they demand movies and video games be censored or "cancelled" because a female character has an hourglass figure and nice tits. Sure, you get the militant right wing wackos who think sex is for procreation only, but they're generally regarded as fringe elements in the wider culture. The far-left liberals hold less power politically, but culturally they have more sway on the narratives around sexuality. Hell they even started inventing new words to describe sexual orientations or preferences that they themselves barely even understand.
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SomeGuyCalledTom
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To clarify: "Tbh I used to think similar to this", as in, I thought conservatives were worse in doing this than liberals. Personally I have no hangups around sexuality and sexual expression. But tp say its only conservatives who suppress sexuality is inaccurate.
kim45456
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So you have a problem with promiscuous women?
SomeGuyCalledTom
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@kim45456 I never said that, and no i don't. What I have a problem with is ideological inconsistencies; and I see more inconsistencies around sexuality in the left wing than the right. My issue is the lefty protestors and social justice types who push promiscuity, whilst also enforcing a kind of sexual puritanism in media. They act like they can have it both ways, but they really can't. Either all sexuality is okay, or none of it is. (I'm pro-sex but also anti-censorship. So it bothers me when these supposedly "sexually liberated" people try to enforce sexual censorship in the name of being "progressive".
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kim45456
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What do you mean with all sexuality? You mean being virgin till marriage should be supported like being promiscuous?
SomeGuyCalledTom
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@kim45456 lets put it this way, I support sexual freedom, so a girl can choose to stay virgin til marriage... OR she can be promiscuous. Either way she is exercising her freedom to choose.
kim45456
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Ohhhh okkk that is fair as soon as you dont shame on virgin or promiscuous women/guys
SomeGuyCalledTom
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@kim45456 no shaming from me
yahyahyahXper 5
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The Nazis were not 'anti-sex'... Have you ever heard of joy division?
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JesseTheMan
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They killed people for being gay and called out anything they thought was "degenerate" Sounds very anti-sex to me lol.
JimmyQ
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@JesseTheMan Gays are not having sex. They are master-bating into each others assholes. You are a generation of filthy, lawless fools and conservatives couldn't care less what you do so long as you are not trying to make us joint in. All this is, is a bunch of sissy crybaby punks complaining cause you are rotten and disgusting that no one clean person in their right mind wants anything to do with you.
kangyGuru
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if people don't get pregnant, or risk getting infected with sexual transmitted diseases perhaps they will be more opened to it
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MackTodayGuru
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They know that sex is for reproduction and creating families the building blocks of a nation. They don't want to see it used frivolously or in horrifying degenerate ways that repulse and terrorize the populace especially vulnerable members like children. You know, actual healthy sexuality.
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Dchrls78104
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I have to agree with you there; I've seen this in my own country.
JesseTheMan
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Sounds extremely repressed and unhealthy lol.
MackToday
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Sounds normal and healthy the way nature intended.
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kim45456
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How about letting us do wtf we want? Do we shame conservatives for being modest or whatever?
Dchrls78104
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@kim45456 men get shamed for being virgins.
kim45456
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Womem get virgin and slut shamed
kim45456
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I personally support virgin men
JesseTheMan
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Trying to equate making fun of someone for being a virgin to slutshaming is kinda silly.
9nsaneXper 1
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I am a liberal, but I am gradually growing out of thinking that so-called "free sex" is unproblematic.
First off, to paraphrase something Jordan Peterson said, sex often leads to feelings, whether you want it to or not.
Second, "free sex" does not mean free sex for everyone. There are few areas of human life where the social hierarchy is as brutal and unforgiving as it is when it comes to sex.
If you are in doubt of this, try joining a dating site focused on casual sex and witness how people treat each other. It is not pretty.
Third, STDs are fun to laugh at until you catch them. Which you probably will, eventually, if you have enough free sex.
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JesseTheMan
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No one said it's unproblematic. That wasn't the point of the question. Everything is problematic in some way.
9nsane
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Also, if you really think free sex is great, you should visit my country, Denmark, one of the places the sexual revolution pretty much started, the first country in the world to legalize pornography, etc. You should talk to some of the children from the social experiment that was communal living and free sex. There is some serious trauma there. You should look at Denmark's divorce rate, which is something like 50%. And at all the kids who grow up in one-parent households, or travelling back and forth between parents. I have heard of no research that says this is healthy for children. This isn't to say that staying in a bad marriage is necessarily right either. Just. . . not all Conservatives are idiots. A lot of them have thought about things before they arrived at their conclusions.
9nsane
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"No one said it's unproblematic. That wasn't the point of the question. Everything is problematic in some way." Lol, seriously? You posted a question bashing conservatives for not agreeing with "healthy and free sexuality". At least own it and don't move the goalposts.
CasaNorbaGuru
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they seem to have a tendency of wearing their black and white goggles too damn often
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TonyBologna25Yoda
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I'm a conservative, and I'm definitely not anti-sex. We simply recognize the ramifications of being sexually promiscuous. As someone who's been a swinger and slept around a lot, I can tell you that sex with strangers in high counts isn't that satisfying as you might think. It will almost always damage future relationships as well. I'm all for having great and amazing sex, but not with random strangers. At least not anymore. Sex should carry within it some substance, and contentiously going through the motion with countless numbers of people is a bit off-putting when considering monogamy. If a girl has sex with 100+ guys prior to you, it's not going to mean nearly as much when she has sex with you. Also- no man wants to imagine his future wife getting fucking railed by a bunch of dudes nonstop. It plagues how you will look at her. At 20 years old, I thought just like you. At 26, I've grown past it.
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Year3000
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I don’t know many heterosexual people who have over 100 sexual partners. I already beat the rest of my friends, and I’ve only had sex with 80-85 women. Keep in mind I’m 23, and most my friends are in their 20s also.
Browneye57Master
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You're a fool that doesn't have a clue what you're talking about.
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beebellaMaster
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I thought this said: "Why are coronaviruses so anti-sex?" 😐
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shreya_shiry
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Damn! I read same at first 😂
Davey2019
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They are though in fairness
Aakash_Hangargi
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They are pro sex actually by this ends population will be balanced😂
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Why is he horrified by my past... it is only 18 guys and threesomes
Are they really, or are they just hiding it better?
And sometimes they're not even hiding it. The US president says he's a conservative. But he likes to grab 'em by the pussy.
Because many of them are basing all their facts on ancient ideologies the religious governments set in place long ago, such as monogamy. Many of the rules lined out by these religious governments weren't religiously founded at all, they were created to control the population. But it made such a mark in history that people still think these false preachings to be true.
Bit of a loaded question don’t you think? It’s like asking why are liberals against straight marriage and tradition. And then trying to subtly associate liberals with socialists and commies.
And no, conservatives aren’t “anti sex” they simply believe people should only have sex with a partner after marriage.
Never mentioned socialists or communists so not sure how they relate tothis.
No you didn’t but you did liken Conservatives to nazis and fascists.
They seek control, fuck freedoms :/
Yet they claim to be pro freedom lol
Don’t they always? Lol
The Libertarians do
Not all of us, thankfully. I’m all for individual freedom as long as it fits within societal/governmental order. Basically, do what you want as long as it’s legal and you can morally justify it.
I like libertarians, they stay out of people personal lives while the Republicans want to control people personal lives
Indeed, yet they don’t like big government butting into their personal lives
The Republicans are big fat hypocrites
Definitely
The Republicans just want to turn this country into Saudi Arabia, they love power and hate freedom. No wonder why they love the police so much
And the army. Who better to enforce dominion?
Never trust them!!
Never have. I’ll trust individuals but that’s as far as it goes
jealousy and narcissism. their values dont allow them to enjoy sex as much. so out of spite and jealousy they get a rise out of putting down others who are doing what they secretely want to do. Its like those people who are homosexual but hate and discriminate against gays because they feel insecure about their nature. They dont even realize that god created us to have sex. to be fruitful and multiple. sex is literally what we are supposed to be doing. only the church and religion tries to control how we do it or the marital status we have when we fuck.
Sex is fun, but it also destroys lives and rips families apart. Maybe it's a good thing not to take it so fucking goddamned lightly. Maybe just maybe.
Conservatives aren't anti-sex. They're pro-morals. We're not animals nor cavemen, we don't need to go around giving ourselves away willy nilly. People need to start getting married earlier, then they wouldn't feel the need for it.
Aka "don't have fun and pretend like you're not a human being"
We're still human beings. We just have more standards on how to act now. We don't still hunt for food, do we?
We are indeed animals by definition, and we are about 99% identical to Neolithic humans from our appearance to the way we think and emote.
@BlueberryTwist It doesn't mean we should act like animals.
"We don't still hunt for food, do we?" Yes, yes we do. All the time. In a plethora of countries. From Canada and America to the far east of Russia. People hunt.
In my country, more than 50% of the marriages ends within a couple of years in divorce. So what's the worth of marriage nowadays?
We are animals, we act like what we are whether you can comprehend that or not.
I think you're both missing the point. Are we dogs? Do we lick our parts and eat filthy things? No. We're much more evolved than that. We have self control, morals, standards, etc. Yes, we are 'sexual beings'. We're here to have children. But that's the point, we're here to have families, not to go around having as much sex as possible.
We are literal animals, there is no way we could ever not act like animals, by definition.
@Harmseygrace Good that you're mentioning the word morals. These morals are not universal, they can be different from person to person. Your moral standards might be different than those of other people.
"Do we eat filthy things?" Considering you're not one for hunting your own food, I have no doubt you eat filthy things pumped full of chemicals on a nearly daily basis and indulge in fast food. Standards and morals are subjective, and self control isn't always present. Step outside of whatever incredibly tiny box you're in and do a smidge of research.
@BlueberryTwist You're taking what I'm saying well out of context. There's a big difference between junk food (which I actually don't eat a lot of, thank you very much) and a dead rat. @JesseTheMan What you both are saying doesn't make much sense. Yes we're animals, but we sure don't act like ones. We're humans. @Barry88 There is worth of marriage if it's with the right person. If you share the same morals, vision for the future, beliefs, then there's a much higher chance of it working out. People don't find the right people for them nowadays and they give up too easily.
Yeah, a dead rat is meat that is on par to the dead cows and dead chickens people eat on a daily basis. Humans are animals, so acting like a human is acting like an animal. You should stop skipping biology, it comes in handy.
@BlueberryTwist False. Dead rats carry diseases, meat from farms don't. Meat from farms are safe to eat, a rat in a mousetrap or roadkill on the side of the road isn't. We give dogs raw meat, why don't humans eat raw meat? I'm not skipping biology. A lot of my beliefs come from biology actually.
Cows carry disease too, in fact BSE was pretty serious for a long time. All animals are at risk of carrying a disease, deadly or otherwise. Carpaccio, Ossenworst, Chee kufta, Carne apache, etc. All raw meat dishes that are pretty frequently eaten.
@Harmseygrace I a conservative and agree with your base point but the solution is NOT getting married earlier, that's just going to lead to divorces and children growing up in broken homes or worse homes where their parents don't like each other.
I agree with what @Harmseygrace have said, 100%... I believe that a teenage girl is smarter than you both... Or you both are a couple of atheist who have no values or morals in life... When something bad happens you go cry and nag that you want law and justice or talk about what's wrong and what's right, a human is different than all animals, humans are the children of god... Sex always comes after marriage and if people doesn't know the values and compromises and commitments of a marriage, it doesn't means that a marriage is a failure, it means that people are the failure.
Ohhh right, like that time Adam and Eve had 2 kids way before the concept of marriage was even mentioned in the bible right? Or that time god impregnated a 16 year old woman that we wasn't in a relationship with? Or what about Lilith, Adam's first wife who he abandoned for someone else. That surely means Adam is a failure in your eyes. Trying to reference an ancient book of logical flaws and errors won't do you much when it comes to the idea of human biology. Up the argument a tad, Tony.
@BlueberryTwist oh really, from where did you come up with all this, from conspiracies who are against christians or what? I know all of these and lilith is an evil woman and that's of it was true, also the new testament came to correct everything that happened in the past and to continue the right path, i look at jesus and does his teachings, also adam and eve is a metaphoric story, but it's made for smart people and not shallow minded people who fishes word by word from the book and argue about it.
Bible is supposed to be flawless, but you just admitted there are mistakes. Lilith is not evil, only a goddess pre-existing the religion of Christians that they tried to pervert.
@BlueberryTwist not me saying that there mistakes, i said that there are metaphors and the mistakes were that they were too harsh while jesus wanted to teach us more forgivness and more good to each other and he's the one, the son of god while others were all humans! You can't proof everything in a historic way and that's why it's faith and not science! I'm a man of science but i never mix both with each other since both are very different than each other! Faith is faith and science is science! I have no formula that i can test in the lab to show you that god is real, there are signs since the dawn of time, you choose if you want to believe or not... period!
We all expected more from you, Tony ol' boy. You can't keep contradicting yourself
@BlueberryTwist there is no contradiction, it's some facts that you just chose not to accept and your free, that's all 😏
Other than all the contractions you've put forth, naturally
Yep that is right.
@BlueberryTwist Maybe you are
@Barry88 When you get married , you don't if it will end in divorce. That is like saying everyone dies , lets all commit suicide.
@888theGreat Everyone marries with the intention to stay together. Nobody marries with the idea "Hey, let's divorce in a couple of years from now!" But the fact is that many people want to end their marriage after a couple of years. The intentions were good, it just didn't work out. I know so many people in their 20s and 30s which are divorced, or which are in their 2nd marriage...
@Barry88 that's because you never truly loved each other and doesn't believe in the values and the committment of marriage and doesn't consider it sacred!
@Barry88 Not going to pretend the woman you're arguing with is remotely intelligent, but you are. That's why I think it's worth replying to you. The divorce rate is so high because of the people who get married 6+ times in their life. People who have a successful marriage the first time are disproportionately people who didn't sleep around before marriage. I have a religious morality. I don't expect other to because that would be ridiculous for those who aren't in my religion. I'm just saying the marriage argument isn't the one to use here. Thank you for reading.
@BlueberryTwist rofl where’d u hear that? 99% similar? There’s not a single shared bone between us and the lower hominids, and we act very, very differently. We aren’t travelling tribes anymore for one, we use agriculture instead of hunting, we don’t sacrifice virgins to the hungry gods
@BlueberryTwist Sorry I'm so late to this, but where did you get your religious education? Lilith was added in to the Judeo-Christian creation story as part of a slew of anti=Semitic propaganda. She was the thief of children in order to give the Jews a reason to commit all thee acts under blood liable they were accused of. Notice in ancient Christianity, Islam, and historical Judaism she isn't present in the story. I swear these things are immortal. Just like people who claim that Jews worship Yaldabaoth.
Divorce rate is high when people marry young. Look at the statistics
@kim45456 Because they don't date 1 to 2 years before they marry and they don't ask each other the right questions. Like have kids are not, Size of home, religion, etc.
@888theGreat Even those who move rather quickly can be successful if they spend their time well. Religious dating can be very intense. And they don't always marry young either, I know a pretty happy couple who were both virgins when they married at 26 (couple months age difference).
Omg hahahaha I can't tell if Harmsey is trolling or not. Is it possible anyone can be so wrong about every single thing? No way is this a real account. This thread was hilarious. My favorite is probably the no hunting thing. Good work lol.
@77gnat Honestly thought she was a troll too. The all the animal stuff made no damn sense.
@BlueberryTwist grow up. we are animals by one definition and by the other definition we are not. the reason people use different words for animals and humans is because people don't consider them the same thing. you're getting too caught up in semantics instead of making a point.
@wisefool : P she was probably eating a cheeseburger sitting next to her leather handbag.
Conservaties aren't anit-sex, we're anti lack of responsibility for your choices, and anti shoving sex and sexuality down people's throats. Do whatever you want but shut the fuck up about it and stop pretending it's free from consequences.
Sex and sexuality is normal and everyone needs to be educated about them. Stop hating fun.
Educating is highly different from what you want. Keep what you get up to to yourself and no one will have a problem.
Conservatives are the anti fun police, they just want to control your lives
@NorthwestRider I really don't think you understand what you're talking about.
Giving people real, healthy sex education is important. Grow up
She will not listen, she is just a clueless conservative religious nut who thinks with her emotions and not by logic
@JesseTheMan Sex education and going around talking about sex in day to day life are very different things, all teenagers should of course receive proper sex education but that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're asking about.
@NorthwestRider I'm an atheist who bases all her beliefs in rationality and logic. You show yourself to be so clearly ignorant making statements so false about people you don't know at all.
Conservatives are not logical, they are full of emotions and can't think straight
@NorthwestRider No... you might not agree with us but conservative beliefs aren't illogical, I can see there's really not much point in going in-depth here so I'll leave it at that for now.
I find conservatives anti freedom and want the government to control people lives expect for the Libertarians. I have respect for the Libertarians!!
@NorthwestRider Then you don't have a good understanding of conservatism, if you actually want to have a talk I'm perfectly open to it.
Just look at Saudi Arabia, they are super conservative and they hate freedom and people having rights
@NorthwestRider No. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state and a monarchy that has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism it actually goes against conservatism. As I already told you you seem to lack the knowledge about what conservatism actually is.
How about Uganda, a conservative Christian country where people lack any freedom there? Their government is super authoritarian. Are you denying the fact that Saudi Arabia is a conservative country?
@NorthwestRider Okay so first Uganda, with my around average knowledge on Uganda I can tell you again it is not conservative but far-right underdeveloped country and believe it or not doesn't have an official religion, while the majority of the population are Christian the country itself is not a Christian nation. I'm not denying Suidia Arabia is conservative I'm telling you it isn't. You have absolutely no knowledge about what conservatism is whatsoever, again if you actually want to know and have a chat I'm up for that.
Honestly the woman with the a my keyboard doesn't have is right mostly. The points on Saudi Arabia and Uganda are spot-on and she is much better at argument. I will say this though, there is much overlap between libertarianism and conservatism. I think any country under religious rule does poorly. I'm saying that as a religious person so don't be offended please. Some of us base opinions on logic and keep them separate from morals. I can't fornicate, it's a sin against my god. It would be ridiculous of me to expect others who don't hold that belief to adhere to it. Policy should never be decided by religion. I'm more than a touch libertarian though.
@meesegoMoo Thank you, you're exactly right.
If you have a problem with open and healthy sexuality and representing it in real lifr, you are very much anti sex. And yes, Saudi-Arabia is indeed very conservative.
@JesseTheMan No those are completely different things as so many people have tried to explain to you so I do feel this is wasted but here I go, you can do whatever you want but no you shouldn't go around broadcasting it, especially in public, keep that shit to yourself or those who ask. This isn't anti-sex by any means that's like saying you're anti-porn if you don't watch it full volume on your phone at the back of a bus. I'm gathering you've probably also ignored what I said so I'll give another brief explanation, Saudi Arabia is not conservative it's a right-wing Islamic state, these are not the same thing like I offered the other guy if you want to actually learn about conservatism and what it is I'd always be happy to talk to you.
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@Ámayas_20 what’s your example of a conservative country if Saudi Arabia isn’t?
@Jerkface4444 This is actually a far more complex question than you believe it to be, no country in the world today is properly conservative, just as none is properly liberal, or properly any specific political view. This is because in democracy, an essential part of the conservative view, doesn't really allow for such a monolith to be created. The reason I can say that Saudi Arabia is not conservative is that individual liberty is a core value of conservatism something that doesn't exist in any country with Islamic rule. For countries that are conservative well as I said no country is completely conservative but believe it or not the united states still holds many conservative ideals and beliefs even if the left in the us are trying and slowly are destroying them.
What's your take on classical liberalism? I agree mostly, but I do prefer a smaller government. I think the ideal of free expression and freedom of education/thought is admirable.
@Ámayas_20 the United States failed though
What is free? Or conservative what the United States?
@Jerkface4444 How so? Especially compared to Saudi Arabia?
@meesegoMoo economically, it is doing pretty bad. The US is more left wing than the whole Middle East besides Israel.
@Jerkface4444 Left-wing right-wing isn't the same as leftist or conservative. Liberals and conservatives have a significant amount of overlap with each-other, leftist policies have more in common with extreme right-wing governments.
Cause they tend to be religious or "traditional," which are both stupid things that go against logic.
Says the preschooler with the name whywhywhywhywhywhy... lol 😅🤣🤣you wouldn’t know logic if it slapped you on the butt...
@Girther10 what a silly reply by someone whose username is girther10
This is why I’ve always pushed to have a children’s section here. Bc of yourkiddy like replies that defy even the least bit of logic or common sense. You can’t expect to insult millions of Americans and not get called out for it... but you just managed to do exactly that, someday when you grow up you will look back on this and cringe, and rightly so..
@whywhywhywhywhywhywhywhy- you prob don’t even know what girther means... 😅😅🤣
Tradition doesn't go against logic there is nothing wrong with having morals and values.
@Jackpot777s you do when they are stupid or harmful, like circumcision and denying rights to people.
Well on the gay rights thing marriage is between a man and a woman and that is the definition of it so they didn't deny them rights they just didn't want to accept that their type of marriage is a civil union.
@Jackpot777s here's the definition I googled: "Marriage is the process by which two people make their relationship public, official, and permanent. It is the joining of two people in a bond that punitively lasts until death, but in practice is often cut short by separation or divorce." And you proved my point exactly. Holding onto something for the sake of preserving tradition alone is beyond stupid.
You can google all you want of course google is owned by far left liberals who believe what they want not the truth marriage is between a man and a woman that is the original and real definition of it. I don't need some controlled search result hiding bastards such as google to tell me what it is.
@Jackpot777s Ok, prove it. And I love that argument, denying credibility cause it suits your narrative. I bet you're religious too. but that's ok, free will doesn't exist so it's not really your fault.
@whywhywhywhwy No, it goes against what you believe that has nothing to do with 'logic'
@Ámayas_20 your right, which makes it stupid.
@whywhywhywhwy Are you really so naive to believe just because you one 17 year old girl with very little experience of the world or politics disagree with something it's stupid? You really need to grow up.
I will take the 1950's over today , anytime.
@Girther10 If you are conservative , she complains assault, if a liberal , he was playing around.
Logic says that the rate of divorce and infidelity has increased dramatically since progressive culture starting become big. Logic says that more and more women are clinically depressed because we’ve deviated from traditional gender roles. Logic shows that women are happiest working a part time job and raising the kids rather than focusing her whole life on a career. Logic says that men are happiest being the bread winner. Logic says that the more women act like men, the more unattractive they become. Logic says the more men act like women, the more unattractive they become. Logic also shows that couples who cohabit prior to marriage have a much higher rate of divorce. Logic says the healthiest couples are ones who didn’t have prior promiscuous behavior. Logic says the more promiscuous you are, the higher your statistical chance to cheat in marriage is. Logic says that promiscuous behavior is toxic in a lot of ways. Logic says that we as a society function best within more traditional roles.
Tbh I used to think similar to this, but in recent years i noticed its the bleeding heart liberals who have weird double standards on sexuality. On one hand they organise "slut walks" where girls get naked and show how shameless they are in their sexual promiscuity. But then in the same breath, they demand movies and video games be censored or "cancelled" because a female character has an hourglass figure and nice tits. Sure, you get the militant right wing wackos who think sex is for procreation only, but they're generally regarded as fringe elements in the wider culture. The far-left liberals hold less power politically, but culturally they have more sway on the narratives around sexuality. Hell they even started inventing new words to describe sexual orientations or preferences that they themselves barely even understand.
To clarify: "Tbh I used to think similar to this", as in, I thought conservatives were worse in doing this than liberals. Personally I have no hangups around sexuality and sexual expression. But tp say its only conservatives who suppress sexuality is inaccurate.
So you have a problem with promiscuous women?
@kim45456 I never said that, and no i don't. What I have a problem with is ideological inconsistencies; and I see more inconsistencies around sexuality in the left wing than the right. My issue is the lefty protestors and social justice types who push promiscuity, whilst also enforcing a kind of sexual puritanism in media. They act like they can have it both ways, but they really can't. Either all sexuality is okay, or none of it is. (I'm pro-sex but also anti-censorship. So it bothers me when these supposedly "sexually liberated" people try to enforce sexual censorship in the name of being "progressive".
What do you mean with all sexuality? You mean being virgin till marriage should be supported like being promiscuous?
@kim45456 lets put it this way, I support sexual freedom, so a girl can choose to stay virgin til marriage... OR she can be promiscuous. Either way she is exercising her freedom to choose.
Ohhhh okkk that is fair as soon as you dont shame on virgin or promiscuous women/guys
@kim45456 no shaming from me
The Nazis were not 'anti-sex'... Have you ever heard of joy division?
They killed people for being gay and called out anything they thought was "degenerate" Sounds very anti-sex to me lol.
@JesseTheMan Gays are not having sex. They are master-bating into each others assholes. You are a generation of filthy, lawless fools and conservatives couldn't care less what you do so long as you are not trying to make us joint in. All this is, is a bunch of sissy crybaby punks complaining cause you are rotten and disgusting that no one clean person in their right mind wants anything to do with you.
if people don't get pregnant, or risk getting infected with sexual transmitted diseases perhaps they will be more opened to it
They know that sex is for reproduction and creating families the building blocks of a nation. They don't want to see it used frivolously or in horrifying degenerate ways that repulse and terrorize the populace especially vulnerable members like children. You know, actual healthy sexuality.
I have to agree with you there; I've seen this in my own country.
Sounds extremely repressed and unhealthy lol.
Sounds normal and healthy the way nature intended.
How about letting us do wtf we want? Do we shame conservatives for being modest or whatever?
@kim45456 men get shamed for being virgins.
Womem get virgin and slut shamed
I personally support virgin men
Trying to equate making fun of someone for being a virgin to slutshaming is kinda silly.
I am a liberal, but I am gradually growing out of thinking that so-called "free sex" is unproblematic.
First off, to paraphrase something Jordan Peterson said, sex often leads to feelings, whether you want it to or not.
Second, "free sex" does not mean free sex for everyone. There are few areas of human life where the social hierarchy is as brutal and unforgiving as it is when it comes to sex.
If you are in doubt of this, try joining a dating site focused on casual sex and witness how people treat each other. It is not pretty.
Third, STDs are fun to laugh at until you catch them. Which you probably will, eventually, if you have enough free sex.
No one said it's unproblematic. That wasn't the point of the question. Everything is problematic in some way.
Also, if you really think free sex is great, you should visit my country, Denmark, one of the places the sexual revolution pretty much started, the first country in the world to legalize pornography, etc. You should talk to some of the children from the social experiment that was communal living and free sex. There is some serious trauma there. You should look at Denmark's divorce rate, which is something like 50%. And at all the kids who grow up in one-parent households, or travelling back and forth between parents. I have heard of no research that says this is healthy for children. This isn't to say that staying in a bad marriage is necessarily right either. Just. . . not all Conservatives are idiots. A lot of them have thought about things before they arrived at their conclusions.
"No one said it's unproblematic. That wasn't the point of the question. Everything is problematic in some way." Lol, seriously? You posted a question bashing conservatives for not agreeing with "healthy and free sexuality". At least own it and don't move the goalposts.
they seem to have a tendency of wearing their black and white goggles too damn often
I'm a conservative, and I'm definitely not anti-sex. We simply recognize the ramifications of being sexually promiscuous. As someone who's been a swinger and slept around a lot, I can tell you that sex with strangers in high counts isn't that satisfying as you might think. It will almost always damage future relationships as well. I'm all for having great and amazing sex, but not with random strangers. At least not anymore. Sex should carry within it some substance, and contentiously going through the motion with countless numbers of people is a bit off-putting when considering monogamy. If a girl has sex with 100+ guys prior to you, it's not going to mean nearly as much when she has sex with you. Also- no man wants to imagine his future wife getting fucking railed by a bunch of dudes nonstop. It plagues how you will look at her. At 20 years old, I thought just like you. At 26, I've grown past it.
I don’t know many heterosexual people who have over 100 sexual partners. I already beat the rest of my friends, and I’ve only had sex with 80-85 women. Keep in mind I’m 23, and most my friends are in their 20s also.
You're a fool that doesn't have a clue what you're talking about.
I thought this said: "Why are coronaviruses so anti-sex?" 😐
Damn! I read same at first 😂
They are though in fairness
They are pro sex actually by this ends population will be balanced😂
Read Song of Songs. :- )