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-Be light or pale skin
-Have pink nipples, pussy, etc
-Colored eyes
-Young, borderline illegal even (16-25), after 30, you're chopped liver apparently
-Big boobs, butt aka curvy
Now personality:
-Nice (about the only reasonable standard)
-Traditional yet independent (somewhat contradictory)
-No daddy issues
-No kids
-Virgin or very low count but yet still be a horny sex kitten for him
-Dont date black guys (for many white guys on this site apparently)
-Shy yet confident enough to not be jealous, insecure, restricted sexually etc.
Now, you can argue that women's standard are unreasonable, but I would highly disagree. Just on age alone, we like men of all ages, not just the ones fresh out of puberty like men. Or men on this site. We dont care if your nipples aren't pink or brown, its extremely arbitrary to find colors desirable for the most part. Pale skin, not many women care. I guess body shape, yes women want fit men, but then men want curvy women with big tits so that cancels out. Nice, both men and women want that. Traditional, thats probably about equal. "Baggage" like daddy issues or kids, more women are lenient than men and would rarely use the term "damaged goods" while men have no qualms insulting women like that. Virgin, women are all over the place with this. If she's a virgin, she typically wants a virgin, if she isn't, she typically doesn't care or doesn't want one. But men of all sexual statuses seem to prefer virgins or low count, while few dont care. Women aren't as fixated with race as men are. And I will say that yes women want confidence while men want shy, so that one cancels out.
But overall, men's standards are more unreasonable on looks alone because you're not going to find much busty young light skin women that are virgins, that leaves only like I don't know, maybe less than 1-3% of the population of single women as truly desirable?
So why dont men admit this stuff?
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30 101I'm not that reluctant to admit it, my standards are that high (actually even higher). The simple reason is I got sick of the drama of settling for anything from less less than what I want to ones not even good enough for the Jerry Springer show (I was quite the man whore back in the day). No one should settle, if the human race goes extinct as a result (unlikely) so be it.
their not.
all you have to do is try to put forht effort.
Preferences and standards aren't the same.
This isn't to say some men and women don't have ridiculous standards, while others don't.
Like lets say you meet a guy, he's great, and you get along amazingly. Would it be nice if he were a billionaire? Sure, that would be nice, it would make life easier for sure. Does that mean you only date billionaires? No.
If I were single, and met a woman who I feel deeply in love with, I would likely enjoy it if she were a chronic masturbator with an out of control sex life who somehow has never seen a penis though she dreams of them constantly, is wonderful with children, sweet, filthy in bed, gets along with everyone I know, and why not also have a billion in the bank as well. Oh and she's 5' tall with dark hair, full lips, skinny with small tits, a slightly fat bum and the exact pussy I like. Because why not?
But i'd happily date a not-fat girl with high sexual and personal compatibility who had a good heart and enjoyed me. Even if she was broke, and had slept with 100 guys, etc.
Lol I just saw your update and saw my answer. See I'm not trolling physical type ;)
I believe you lol but most men don't agree with your physical standards
Too many do share that preference, I always had lots of competition. TBH I think one reason I dated women I did (who tended towards slim but -tall-) was that there was too much competition for the short ones but the tall women were helpfully for me filtering out average and short guys giving me a better chance.
Lol that's a bit hard to believe
I like dark nipples lol there living in a fantasy world where they can say anything they want so that's why. there living out there fantasys of talking bout what they wish they had doesn't mean they really want that. some may but most would be great with different things than they say on here. or they just want to look cool to others like they have the fantasy code some guys think is the best when in reality they prolly don't give a shit. lol
Just because men are more willing to lower their standards, doesn't change the fact that they're high to begin with
Whenever I see a post to the effect of "an entire gender's standards are too high," it translates as "I keep getting rejected by members of my desired gender who I am attracted to; it is THEIR FAULT and they need to lower their standards," when, in fact, perhaps YOU are the one whose standards are too high?
Find the ugliest, smelliest, fattest, most repulsive old homeless toothless man you can. Hit him up. Offer him a blowjob. If he refuses, find another. Go through ten homeless toothless smelly fat old men. If all of them reject you and vomit, then come back and tell me how ALL men's standards are too high.
If one of them or more accepts your offer, you have a baseline from which you can ascend. You can elevate your standards until you find where you stand. The art of natural selection! See? SCIENCE. ;)
Anyone can get a partner, if they just lower their standards enough. Even I could do it, if I was willing to dive that low.
Speaking as someone who was routinely rejected by everyone he has ever really and truly liked, you come off as an entitled crybaby here. And you are not the first. I am sure at some point I was like this.
Good luck and sorry to break the bad news! :(
Oh, right - your question is "why don't men admit their standards are too high?" Well, maybe they are happy with what they are able to get? I don't know. I just did admit my standards were too high. It is one of the main reasons I am MGTOW.
There is a difference between preferences and standards. While I may prefer a certian nipple color, it's not going to be something that determins whether or not I date a girl. Only some of those things you listed are actually "requirements". And no kids is pretty reasonable in my opinion.
I will admit guys are pickier about looks for relationships. However, just like girls get to have casual sex with guys who are more attractive than they are, guys can get into commited relationships with girls who are better looking. And knowing that why wouldn't a guy want to take advantage of that?
Yes, I like this question. Why? I don't know, but I like it. What do I have to say? Nothing. Why? No clue... 😂
I will just read other opinions/comments. 🙈🙉🙊
This is very interesting question. Love it! 🙋
Lol thank you
Yeah, I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with your assessment. While there are certainly some men who possess unrealistically high standards, the truth of the matter is that they are the exception and not the norm. On the other hand, the amount of women who have unrealistically high standards is the norm and not the exception. To possess even an average chance with women, a man has to be wealthy, confident, and possess the body of a male model. Not to mention this whole "body language" chemistry emotion thing that women hold even the most attractive men to. You just do not realize that your standards are unrealistic because unlike the average male, the average woman is in a position where she can reasonably expect to have her standards met.
Furthermore, I do not think you realize just how disproportionately effected the male population is when it comes to this stuff. Only about the top 10% of males are in a position where they can actually be picky whereas the bottom 90% of us are at a perpetual disadvantage, fighting an uphill battle until about the age of 30 when the roles finally reverse in our favor. I will not even get into this whole fat acceptance movement with Ashley Graham and the like. When was the last time you ever saw an average let alone overweight man like Larry the Cable Guy glorified as sexy? Hint: never. If you are a man, you either have to settle for a woman way below your league or you hope for a miracle.
That or you can do what I do and date only slightly older women, former sex workers, and single mothers since with them you get a better deal. An average man can easily score a perfect 10/10 supermodel-level attractive woman from these demographics if he is willing to endure whatever baggage they may entail. It is a much better deal.
You just proved my point with your Ashley Graham comment. She's beautiful yet men think she's too big? And don't give me that crap, because then I guess 70% of men from GaG are the "top 10%" who can be picky enough to care about nipple color? You're full of shit
I'll admit that I have decently high standards. What's wrong with that? I want a girl who is nice and will treat me right, and I'll do the same to her. For me, a girl is attractive if she's in decent shape (not fat but doesn't need to be ultra athletic either). Decently long hair, eye color doesn't matter too much.
I am a virgin so I'd like a virgin, but the reason guys don't want a girl with a "high count" is because a) it kinda tells you she's bad news and it most likely isn't going to end well (assuming you are both fairly young) and b) because we don't feel special at all. If you're each other's first, or you've only been through a few relationships so be it, but if you've been with 30 or 40 guys and you're young, give me a break there.
Definitely don't want a girl with kids at my age. But the point is we want a girl who has her life in decent enough order and will treat us well, and is attractive to us. It's not really much to ask. Attractiveness is extremely subjective, so it is what it is. But yeah, I don't care if I have high standards. There's nothing wrong with it. As long as you are also bringing the same kind of things to the table yourself.
I never said its wrong to have high standards. I think we should all, because the goal is to spend the rest of our days with them, hell yea they better make you happy. Its just that men, especially on this site, dont want to admit that mens standards are high too and that its not necessarily a bad thing.
Yeah it's tough. I feel like guys and girls spend too much time with this kind of pissing contest to see which gender has higher standards, and it shouldn't matter. You make an effort to be the best person you can every day, and you look for the person you think you want to spend time with. If he/she doesn't want it then fine, and if you don't find him/her then fine. It'd be better than finding someone who's going to treat you like crap
but you can't tell that to women
and like what I want to say is as long a man and a woman can keep each other happy what else fucking matters SERIOUSLY
Those "standards" are all responses to a "describe your ideal dream perfect woman" question. They are not reality and the guys answering the question know that.
We could just as easily turn around and say that all women want men to be a 6'4" billionaire bodybuilding doctor who loves kids and animals, and you'd say that was just as far fetched.
lol I ll admit I have pretty high expectations
and you do have a point.
but I don t think guys are that shallow about colors
it s more of a preference than an expectation you know.
also I think people tend to want their equal
I don't think that GAG is representative of society as a whole, men or women.
Plenty of people have their 'lists' of attributes they ideally want, but when it comes down to it, most compromise.
My standards are not be fat, no kids, and be nice. Sad that today, I'm considered being too picky. Also to add, these top 20% of men that give women gina tingles can afford to have high standards.
And sad that only like 1% of women are what makes men cum uncontrollably
Absolutely agree! A man can always fantasize having sex with these 1% women on Porn Hub and his trusty fleshlight. God... I'm so pathetic. :(
I think I mentioned this before on another post but I think you need to see that a lot of traits we look for in our partners stem from biology. Do you want weak sick frail kids and a man who can't even provide for himself? An hour glass figure shows men you are of child bearing age, a small waist shows you are not pregnant. Prominent boobs shows you can nurse kids, wide hips and large butt shows us that when it's time for the baby to come the labor will be smooth as possible. Those things men can't shake just like you want a strong virile male who can provide for you.
Now that other stuff I can agree is wrong and it's societal standards, men do not like putting a face to a woman's past and the more men she's been with the more likely that'll happen. I think men fear that a woman with a lot of baggage made mistakes and she wants someone to clean it up for them. Men need to see that it is impossible to not have a past. For the black men comment, that plays into the virgin thing, I think the image that pops into a white mans head when he hears "black man" is this 6'5" muscular bad boy with a 12" wang and he rocked this girls world and he can't compete with that.
So just like men thinks that a girl sleeping with 30 guys makes her vagina loose that her sleeping with this stereotypical black man ruined her also. For hair, skin and eyes that is society pushing that. Women want to be desired and tend to feel pressure to look like what is on magazines, TV's, the internet and other forms of media. Personally I think once rap became cool and all these black and Latina girls where doing things white and Asian girls could only dream of and had bodies and looks they never could get they tried everything in their power to obtain that and be desired again. They didn't want to be seen as boring and flat anymore and today you always seen titles and hashtags like #whitegirlscantwerktoo #whitegirlsareevolving "watch this white girl twerk". Or some people straight up injected it into their culture without crediting the originator. So after that spiel I think it comes down to the fact men all mutually agree what is hot, then some men make it popular, sometimes it is for political reasons like the example I gave about white girls in today's world. And women then feel the need to keep up. I hope things change because things like skin bleaching in Jamaica are terrible
Still the problem here is that most men don't seem to admit being shallow and that's what pisses us off. Only 10% of women are apparently good enough, it doesn't matter why. It doesn't matter if you are just being brainwahsed by media (like women being competely hairless) or what you actually prefer or like (for an example tit size), but just admit that most women are not attractive to most men. Women grow into loving their mans apperience no matter what he looks like, some men try too, but usually it's not gonna work because the male nature just is like this. Don't complain then that some women get "too glingy" when they do find a man, we are insecure and we don't feel like deserving you even if that man is 5'2, has a face of a rat and lives in a cardboard box.
@Rosieeh yes exactly. I'm not looking for an explanation WHY it's desirable I just want men to admit it
In my comment I am saying it true, i'm explaining why it happens
Also they did a study and found that women tend to date down from what they can get because women are not as confrontational as men are so they do not want someone who might be taken away from them. I lost a few girls for that reason. We'd go out and some girl tries to cut in and my date didn't like the idea that she'd be dealing with that
I don't care about anything on the first list and only 3 of the second list.
Because if girls say their standards honestly they are gonna be called golddigger or ugly bitch
They will take a lot of what's not on their list, don't worry.
Thats not what Im worried about. More like bothered that they refuse to admit it and get all pissy when called out on their shit lol
This site is certainly not the place to judge men's standards, especially when there's many anons and many come from all over the place.
You also have to consider the guy who makes the standards in the first place. Some people who are models with their business, are most likely not going to want the average pleb. Really with me I don't care what standards you have as long as you meet them yourself. Aka, don't be some guy women would call "crusty" and expect some model to date you.
LOL at that usage of crusty But I agree except that its not just the model men with high standards, its nearly every guy.
And then those men complain they don't find a girl. And become sour MGTOWs.
Lol another rubbish movement like feminism
You're reading too much into all that. Ignore generalizations about men.
Now the women, we already know 80% of them are chasing the top 15% of the best men cuz "I'm not going to settle".
:)