Why do many (if not all) men believe that they should be entitled to sex?

[Hawkes_Lady]

What makes a man believe that as women we should lie down on the floor and spread our legs whenever or wherever they want us to? That man should be allowed to satisfy his carnal needs with a prostitute while "Really getting to know" the woman he's dating so he isn't dependent on her for his sexual pleasure.

Aren't men and women already on an "equal" footing when it comes to sexual/carnal desires, needs, and the release of those feelings? Aren't both sides capable of dealing with their carnal needs on their own or are women really so much more ingenious and self-reliant that when we are horny and have no man around we can take care of ourselves?

[MrOracle]

First, THE most BASIC reason for our existence and our binary sex differences is to REPRODUCE. That is every creature's biological imperative, as any Biology 101 class will teach you. Creatures that don't reproduce quickly go extinct. So the DRIVE to want to have sex should not be confusing to you.

Having said that, of course random men are not ENTITLED to have sex with you whenever they want, or even at all. Yes, the "player types" often operate as if they WERE entitled, but this is a small percentage of men - it's just that they're far more likely to be the ones you run into if you "go out" and it's also generally true that they tend to be the most desirable men (as rated by women generally), so they're the ones you probably pay attention to. You don't even think about the 10 or 20 men who leave you alone for every guy who approaches you that way.

Now, if you choose to be in a romantic relationship with a man, it should be with the understanding that, YES, he's going to expect to have sex with you, fairly often and regularly. Again, this is normal and expected human behavior, and something most people - including most women - welcome and enjoy. Again, in this situation, you've
CHOSEN this man, and he's chosen you, so this isn't just some random guy from the streets.

If the only men you run into are the player types, then you are only going to places where players are, and that means YOU are the problem, not the men, because the vast majority of men are not players (and couldn't be even if they wanted to be).

[ObscuredBeyond]

Our existence doesn't revolve around reproduction. Being binary has as much to do with complementarity as it does with reproduction.

[MrOracle]

@ObscuredBeyond ALL living creatures' existence revolved around SURVIVAL and REPRODUCTION. A species that does either of those poorly goes extinct. Talk to any biologist and they'll confirm this - it's usually right in Chapter 1 of any basic biology book. And, yes, obviously humans have developed fancy brains that allowed us to create technology that has increased our ability to do things beyond JUST survival and reproduction, yet these are still daily concerns for a whole lot of humans, and remains our biological imperative. This isn't even debatable - it's widely agreed upon science, not just from biologists, but across the sciences.

[ObscuredBeyond]

The fact that any believe in chastity vows, the fact that we build rockets to understand other worlds, suggests we're made for more than just knocking boots.

[MrOracle]

@ObscuredBeyond And, yet, nearly everything that men do or have ever done, beyond the minimum necessary for basic survival, was in the end done to increase his status and thus be able to attract more or higher-value women. Every road, bridge, building, vehicle, invention, and dollar earned is to impress or comfort women, and raise our status in their eyes. Proof? Take away a man's access to women, and their motivation to improve themselves disappears. Again, this is a well-documented and thoroughly researched phenomenon.

[ObscuredBeyond]

I don't improve my art in the hopes of attracting a woman. Even if it never gets me rich, I do it because I hate living in a world where everything is crap. So anything to not have to settle for crap is good, even if it never leads to sex. The Rila Monastery in Bulgaria, likewise, seems to challenge the assertion that everything is about sex. Especially that one very elaborately detailed wooden cross with a gazillion designs on it, etched on with needles. So tiny, the monk who crafted it went blind from working on it for so long. Nobody told him he had to do it. No one said he'd gain any special perks here or the hereafter. He simply saw it as a thing that needed to be, so it may as well be him that did it. To live for more, you have to be willing to dream bigger, open yourself up to the idea that there's more than just the bottom tier of Maslow's Pyramid. Otherwise, if that's all you aspire to, that's all you'll know how to live for. And thus, the fact that so many lose all respect for themselves when they can't get sex, doesn't prove that's why we exist. Rather, it's an indictment of our slothful spirits.

[Zenpanda]

Fuck no.
We men are not entitled to sex.
Guy's who talk that way simply shouldn't date.
If I want sex, but my partner doesn't then I'll masturbate or something.
It's not like I need to fuck to live or something.

[laurieluvsit]

I might have the simplest and most concise answer of all...'it's in their nature'.

[BlackBeauty90]

@hawkes_lady Bluntly if women in general increased their standards from gutters and they'd find that most men are not like this. If women have low to no standards and get involved with any man that pays you to slightest attention then they are going to take advantage.

There is a reason why woman are referred to as the gatekeeper as sex. It is the responsibility of woman, predominantly in a West this is a failure, to make sure that they are not sleeping with any man that pays them attention. That they screen their potential partner and don't f*** around like a stray bitch dog.

If women are cheap and easy then bluntly they get what they deserve - used for sex like a prostitute too dumb to charge - for not having much standards.

[Holsen]

ActuallyI don’t believe that but sadly men are jerks so that would feel normal to them;actually sex isn’t a carnal desire;sex is sex but the majority of people are too shallow to understand that there exists no reason to have sex as a pleasing form;on the contrary sex is about the bond that people share and ofc people don’t follow the progression but in order for a man and a woman to reach at the sex stage they would need to get thousands of miles from marriage to reach till sex all that distance in terms of the bond and still is unclear if it would end up in sex or just a very deep bond;the other thing is that people use sex a tool or like a bleached concept undressed from its clothes and driven away from the original so thus we end up at the current day situation where people use sex as a release, pleasure mine, relationship deepener and just an instict wich no one questions;but your anger on the genders is understandable as throughout the course of history men have kept that animalistic attitude of superiority not realising that even animals have rules for things and the result is the objectification of womans, depriving of heir equality to men and stereotypes wich as you mentioned are illogical!!

[D_Bone_Steak]

An obese woman that doesn't do shit with herself all day can get laid faster than a dude like me that has abs and muscles because I spent at least 2 hours that day maintaining it with weights and hard work. There is a difference.

I mean... let's talk about money... I understand why an otherwise broke bitch that isn't collecting from babies daddies would lay down and spread her legs for that... chicks do it all the time on Onlyfans...1 part attention seeking and 1 part money getting... understandable right?

So equality and all that... if she just brings herself to the table for a deal, well... isn't that other dude bringing that and then some in most cases? Why isn't she already sucking some D? There shouldn't be any issues about that power dynamic. When I run into chicks that have it going on and have harder abs than me... I'm down on my knees and ready to suck some V... I have no issues with that power dynamic.

My question would be do you have a problem with that? and if so... why? Can't compete?

[ObscuredBeyond]

Partially because more than ever, women aren't holding anything back. So the way they reason, is if the women of today hold nothing back, then they shouldn't have to either.

Both need to raise their standards.

[rachel776]

i think men are entitled to sex, the main reason we're here is to reproduce

[summiter]

Guys should not feel entitled.. it is a 2 way street.

[Billlewis]

Many guys believe they should be able to have sex whenever they want because that's the narrative being set forth on most television, video and internet programs.

[Billlewis]

There are two, and only two purposes for having sex -- -- to facilitate reproduction -- to provide pleasure for the female Any belief that doesn't support these two objectives is patently false, in my opinion.

[normalice]

Men want sex and so don't objectively consider reasons women might not want it.

[A_Bell]

If the are in an intimate relationship than yes. Otherwise the partner isn't living up to their end.

For a stranger, no. But once you are in a relationship that qualifies as a serious one, like married, engaged, exclusive, etc, whatever you morally subscribe, sex is a part. Otherwise you're just buddies.

[aceleon]

sorry cuty but we are not equals, we can never be, we WİLL never be, nothing is equal in this world, EQUALİTY DOES NOT EXİST, faster you woke up from that dream faster you will learn to not care.

[Bricealan]

@hawkes_lady... Well, damn, aren't we entitled to have sex anytime! ROFLMAO ! I don't think "we" do meaning most men... maybe I'm wrong, but I never thought that. I have been fortunate and had several sexual partners when in my 20's and 30's and beyond, not because of entitlement, but because I like women and they know I do by my behavior.

From what other guys on this site say (younger guys) you do get a sense of entitlement.

[Dargil]

I never felt that way and don't have a clue.

[JacobJordan]

while I understand the view point many take to things like nowadays. As a married man the reality of being in a healthy and happy marriage is sometimes you do things you may not want to do in that very moment because the happiness of your partner is important. now to be clear there is more to this than just "suck it up and do it" I am not saying that. if my wife doesn't want to be intimate but I very much do then it is my task to effectively seduce her and get her into the mood where she wants it. and it goes both ways. matter of fact our second child is a result of my not wanting to but she did so she did her very best to seduce me and obviously succeeded. when she initially started I didn't want to when we actually did I very much wanted to. it has gone the other way where she wasn't particularly feeling up to it so I spend the day doing little seductive things, flowers, walks, massage, brushing her hair etc. by end of day she'll be jumping me even though I was the one that wanted it and she didn't. the issue is too many men and too many women are not willing to make the sacrifices for their partners. they aren't willing to put in that extra work to change their partners mind.

[Count_de_Monte_Volo]

(Addressed to girls who are heavily against granting a man sex when he wants): Imagine if your sex drive was stuck in the “on” position. It is a NEED. And I guess we expect you to recognize it as a need. I mean, surely you’ve heard how much sex is on mens’ minds, even as a foggy stereotype. Are we supposed to wait for only when you want it? That’s fine though. Men are going to buy sexbots soon. Women will be mad about it but you give the men no choice (literally). Also I’ve seen a lot of feminists argue that sexbots will increase sexual crime on real women. That is just gaslighting to keep their friendzones full. Sexbot-minded guys want NOTHING to do with real women. Not only do I think male-on-female sexual assault will decrease, owners of sexbots won’t even acknowledge your existence. And as sexbots become more lifelike, the less likely in general they will sexually assault real women.


Does a man not recognize and respect your needs? Many do. In the name of equality, you have to do the same and sex is at the top of their list.

[Joshydavid25]

You guys and these absolutes of questions.. Most men don't think they are entitled to sex, in the same way most women don't think they are entitled to be taken to a 5 star restaurant on a first date. Why do you think they call it "getting lucky" and not "getting what's mine".. Lmao..

[Meropatrick]

Its not entitlement. Its what men are wired to do. Its like blaming a tiger for Roaring. As long as the guy doesn't force anyone to have sex or harrassing or assualting then i guess no one has a say in what he does in that regard.

[RedInnocent68]

Do we really, though?

[Vegasrunner]

I think you already answered your own question. No men and women are not on equal footing when it comes to desires. A man has to actively pursue while a woman passively Selects those two things by definition aren't equal.

[AmeerX]

A person and not just men are entitled to sex with their spouse. That's the ideal way