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  • Porn and feminism have caused men to take a very low view of women. Of course the doublespeak from women is also very difficult to overlook.

    Also, there's a ton of women who pick the worst possible guys that won't commit or love them and then call all men pigs... what should we do about that? Men should love and respect women, but the way they act makes it quite difficult in our society.

    • Imagine openly admitting to not loving and respecting women. Fucking embarrassing

    • @CrabCakes11 Imagine judging a rando on the internet. Sounds like you're a whole ball of love and respect for everyone.

    • Aren’t you the one judging literally every woman? “ Men should love and respect women, but the way they act makes it quite difficult in our society.”

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  • We don’t

    they are also great with vacuum cleaners, washing machines, irons, etc

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  • Not all men think that but agree that the world today is so twisted.

  • Women aren’t sex objects! Though some men seem to think that. My wife is my partner. She’s a beautiful individual with a personality, goals, interests, and emotions. Sex is just a part of our relationship, and it’s not for me; it’s for both of us.

    The men on here very much show how truly indecent they are towards the other sex. It sucks. Some men are like this. Not all.

    • And I think the reason the men who think this way think the way they do is because they’ve probably not had a chance to actually share a true connection with somebody of the opposite sex - probably because of their attitude towards women. Maybe because they were brought up wrong, or because they generally don’t respect other people. What bothers me most is people on this forum viewing non-virgin women as “damaged goods.” This is the some of the most messed up thinking about another human I have seen.

  • So, this is a paradox. I think women, in some regard, are objects of sexual fascination and fantasy for men. Women can be so beautiful and so attractive to us that we see them as literal works of art. I’d say women can also see a beautiful woman in this way but the biological craving and fascination is a hard-wired part of our male mammal DNA.


    It’s not the same biological, chemical, craving for a woman, no matter how attractive she may find women or her sexual orientation. This is undisputed science. In that regard we have visual representations of a beautiful woman that we could agree “objectifies” a woman as a visual stimulation. This has been true for all of human history and your great grandpas WWII pinup, to Hugh Hefners empire, to the internet fueled OnlyFans all are various degrees of evidence for this. Many a woman has funded her education by simply allowing men to pay to stare at her dancing form. Very few men could say the same thing.


    Now, having said that masculine men who are self-actualized and confident also, equally, tend to be very protective of women. They view them as their mothers, sisters, wives, and the softer and physically less strong of society. We see the beauty of their contributions to the world around us and the lives they give and give too. We cherish the women in our lives. We feel compelled to honor them. In fact for most of human history we held and regarded the lives of women & their children as worth more than a man’s and worth the sacrifice of men to insure their safety and protection. (Remember the Titanic? “Women and children only to the lifeboats please.”)


    I think it’s a healthy balance at some level. I’m a little older so my era of exposure to the sexual “objectification” of women was Playboy. The women were always portrayed in a very respectful manner. Almost never being portrayed as a sexual toy with a pulse but rather as a beautiful woman who’s sexual power and attractiveness was part of who she was. There was a whole campy and simplified page with information about her. The cliché of “turn ons/offs”, ambitions, and things they loved (in addition to her name and measurements) invariably led young men to talk about her and debate if they could have enough game or confidence to even be able to date such a girl and what respectful and charming way would you win her attention.


    As young men, we argued which of us would be the most skillful at winning her attention. She was portrayed and regarded as a real life human being and woman.


    Fast forward to now and an endless stream of internet videos of naked women, being flipped over and positioned as nothing more than a moaning sex doll who can be treated as such is literally causing a mental health crisis, particularly for young men & women who think the porn they witness is “normal”. It’s equally led to unbelievably promiscuous women (operating under the mindset that women can be as sexually liberated as they wish - which they can but has a societal consequence) - to men who actually think they should find women who wish to willingly behave this way. (They probably forget or don’t comprehend that the women participating in their porn fantasies more often than not view that as a highly profitable undertaking with some degree of fame. They are not just looking to help men get off, as their primary motivation).


    We can blame 3rd wave feminism, the internet and rise of porn, or even failed parenting and the diminishing of religious values being considered mainstream. Heck, there’s probably more than just those but that’s the low hanging fruit. In the end, the “objectifying” of women as sexual objects is NOT a “Why do men…” question but rather “How did men and women get society to this point?” The porn industry is female driven and female dependent to an insane degree. This is a reality many women don’t want to face or admit.

  • not all men are idiots... the minority who think that... what can I say... they definitely shouldn't spread their genes...

  • That’s a rather unromantic way of putting it but it’s not far off the truth

  • Because today that is how women act.

  • We don't and never did.. There are men who go to prostitutes just for the company and somebody to talk to.. Plus, guys do the exact same thing to other guys if they're gay, so it's nothing to do with women themselves.. They're just thinking with their lower head..

  • I'm sure some do but I see them as a human being with feelings and the need to be liked/loved just like guys

  • I would assume because in the US men might feel they are also objectified in many ways so they will think its only fair to treat others and females the same. You also have this high school childish belief that the more girls and sex a man has the more of a “man” or “alpha male” he is. On top of all that girls are slut shamed and the society as a whole is more conservative and closed minded about sex and you can imagine how incredibly toxic of a society that creates

  • some men may objectify women due to societal influences, personal attitudes, or lack of understanding about respect and equality. There's also historical or cultural factors.

    Then there's might be the underlying issues such as insecurity, low self-esteem, or a desire for power and control. Treating someone as a mere object can be a way for individuals to assert dominance or compensate for their own perceived shortcomings.

  • Some could yes

  • Because to some of us, many of you are. It’s not personal. Just biology. I like girls, but for anyone I don’t know, work with, or meet for the first time, the only frame of reference I have is whether I would fuck them.

  • A lot of you act like it

  • We don’t think all women are like that, there's an increasing number of accomplished women in the workforce and a lot of good moms out there so obviously women aren’t all bad lol

    Guys only think that about that portion of women that genuinely don’t bring anything to the table to aside from their looks. The kind of girl you’d have a one night stand with but the thought of being around her on a day to day basis make you cringe.

  • Could be down to a few things. Probably the most common answer would be that many guys don't have a healthy relationship with sex, porn, etc.

  • Not all of us do, but porn and onlyfans basically programs us to see women as only sex objects and sex is constantly shoved in our faces. It’s not a gender but society itself.

  • Some guys who didn't have moms or dads that were also taught wrong. I think...

  • Had a fight with husband again?

    • No I didn't.

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