Why do men who sleep around and act like whores say they only want want loyal virgin women?

[Anonymous]

I’m a virgin and a lot of the men who try to pursue me are complete whores. They’ll give it out to anyone they can and they assume that they’re worth my or another woman’s virginity even though they have community dicks.

This isn’t a thing against men with maybe 2 or 3 partners before whom they slept with while in a relationship. It just pisses me off because I happens so often because whores will get mad when you say something about it (of course not using the word whore). I want someone who has self control and is on a semi similar basis as me even if he’s a little more experienced.

Why do men think body counts are so different based on gender. When I ask my other female friends they also agree men with high body counts are just gross. Do men really think a high body count is an attractive trait on them? Why do whore-ish men pursue virgin women?

[MrOracle]

A few things you need to understand. I'm not saying that all of these are RIGHT, I'm just saying that it's how it is.

1. You need to understand that there are "relationship men" (men who are looking for a serious, often "forever" relationship) and there are lots of men who are only looking for either casual sex or a "casual relationship" - meaning they have no long-term plans with the girl. You cannot turn a "casual guy" into a "relationship guy."

2. "Casual guys" will still want to have sex with you just as much as any other guy, and are arguably MORE likely to approach you, because they approach far more women in general. Relationship guys tend to have less experience, and often less confidence, because they only approach girls they think they can be serious with.

3. Generally, virtually all of the really good-looking and/or really popular guys are "casual guys" - they just want sex, they aren't interested in long-term, and they take pride in both running up their body count AND in defiling young, innocent girls. These guys that most women consider the most attractive (or just "attractive", because most girls consider the vast majority of men to be unattractive) are almost never "relationship guys" and you CANNOT change them - no girl can.

4. Even guys who are "relationship guys" will sleep with a girl casually if they can, and especially if she's known to have a high body count or is otherwise "easy." That's because, as much as they want and would prefer a serious relationship, it's difficult to find a suitable partner who is also interested in them in return, and such guys often go years without sex, and men simply aren't designed to be able to hold out that long, especially in their youth. It's not that they prefer to sleep around, it's that they're simply STARVING for sex, and at some point, will take it wherever they can get it.

5. You will notice a big difference between how a "relationship man" treats you and talks to you vs. how a "casual guy" does. A "relationship man" is going to be focused on your future together, and he'll talk about that a lot and make future plans with you. A "casual guy" will steer most conversations and most situations in a sexual direction, because ultimately, sex is all he's really interested in. As a woman, it's up to YOU to recognize the difference, and tell the "casual guys" to get lost. And you have to do that even when the guy is very attractive to you, which will probably be difficult.

If you pick a guy because you find him so attractive, rather than because he's got good morals, values, and life-goals, then you're likely to get used and dumped. I realize that "relationship guys" tend to be more average, and not the hot guys, but the hot guys are just going to use you and dump you. If a serious relationship is important to you, you have to pick the guy based on his morals, values, and life-goals.

[Summeroflove]

Double standards…. That’s one. Those kind of men want women who are virgins, who are beautiful, who treat them well, etc. But those type of men are typically going to cheat, be abusive, controlling, etc.

I don’t personally need a virgin but I do need a woman who shares the same morals, values, ethics, and beliefs as I do. As well as is wanting the same things.

Those kind of women don’t typically want men who are like this. Even if some men want to say they do…. They don’t.

They wonder why there is no good women…. When they’re sleeping with dirty whores and the women who are good girls stay away from them.

If they want that kind of woman. They need to make major changes in their life and be getting right with Jesus. Maybe then they’ll earn the respect of a woman who has good morals and will treat him well.

It’s the same for women who want a man to do everything while she sits on her ass and contributes nothing to the relationship. Sure she can have standards…. Nobody is entitled to a date including her….

Many people become bitter of the opposite sex. Because of how poorly they treat them. Nobody who has any ounce of self respect or dignity wants them.

[Nikki1989]

Men seeking virgin women are not only insecure but very creepy and the older they are, the creepier it gets.

[Siri137]

Because they're spoilt, entitled hypocrites, that's why.

[inhua]

male body counts and female body counts are different because men can get multiple women pregnant whereas women can only get impregnated by one man. a man who sleeps around knows who the mother of his offspring are but a woman who sleeps around might not know who the father of her offspring are

while you're entitled to your opinion on high body count men, the whole "men with high body counts" are disgusting seems more like a reflex reaction than genuine disgust which is no different to women who say short men are disgusting and in return men say short women are disgusting as a reflex reaction when they don't actually believe in it themselves. sure there is common ground such as morbidly obese people being found as disgusting by both genders but overall men and women are different in what they find attractive and unattractive

this is not to say men should go around fucking every woman but at the same time men aren't the gatekeepers of sex, women are the gatekeepers of sex thus the power lies in them to say no however women often don't say no to a dude with a high body count. men are polygamous by nature and will naturally spread their seed when the opportunity is given to them because paternity is not ensured but this has other bad consequences that come along

call it commendable or whatever but society frowns down on virgin men. you may verbally tell yourself a 40 year old virgin man is more attractive than a 40 year old man who has fucked hundreds of women, but your primal instincts will tell that something must be more wrong with the 40 year old virgin for some woman to not want to fuck him

in the past, kings, emperors, warlords fucked the most women. peasants, soldiers and merchants got what they could. slaves got no women. no ruling lineage lasts forever as they are often disposed of and replaced by another ruling lineage. today since there's more civility in society, there's no disposing of attractive men and these attractive men are being chosen and sought out by women and often they will have high body counts. it can be hypocritical by both attractive men and unattractive men to bash each other without seeing what it's like to be in the others' shoes or wanting to be in the others' shoes

fact of the matter is, high body count men pass the evolutionary Principle of Pre-selection. women instinctively don't go for men (mostly virgins) whom other women don't want because men whom other women don't want are perceived to have a flaw in them e. g. a genetic flaw, financial flaw or they must be a creep, rapist, murderer etc. a dude who fucks multiple men likely has less of these flaws and can't possibly be a creep, a rapist or murderer. of course, this is necessarily true e. g. Ted Bundy but the point is, there's something attractive about a dude who can attract multiple men

take Pete Davidson for example, the dude passes the Principle of Pre-selection and has dated multiple hot women. Leonardo DiCaprio has also passed the test despite his dating history being on public display. Charlie Sheen, Hugh Hefner, rappers, athletes and even the "King of Toxic Masculinity" himself Andrew Tate has slept with hundreds of women and women still go after them. how does someone like Zyzz who used to look like a loser suddenly have hundreds of women swarming over him despite knowing that he fucks a lot of them?

at the end of the day, men are polygamous, women are hypergamous. a man's loyalty to a woman isn't tied to how many people he has sex with. a man could fuck a woman he hates or isn't attracted to. a woman can only fuck a man she loves and is attracted to. when a man and woman engage in sex, it speaks volume about the man more than the woman because she was willing to let him impregnate her whereas a man would just spread his seed in anything that moves. quality time, service, devotion and everything else is how a man's loyalty to a woman is measured.

[Asker]

Doesn't that show a lack of self control though, you should be able to say no. And you should hold yourself to a high enough stands to not fuck just because the chance arrives, that’s desperate and that’s sad. I’m in my 20s so a 40 year old virgin is a little too far for me but If he’s a decent guy a 20-30 year old virgin guy is my ideal. And I’m my post I did way I mean whores, a high body count and someone who only has sex in committed long term relationships is very different. I want the second or a virgin, as I get other I lean more to the second but I’d never ever allow myself to be in a relationship with a high body count man. If his dick has been in everything he’s not worth a pure relationship, he hasn’t shown himself worthy of a loyal self respecting woman because he is not a loyal self respecting man. It’s not just an auto reaction, it’s a judge of character, men who sleep around justify it the way you do and blaming your own self control on animal biology when we are far more evolved and all the “must spread seed” stuff has been debunked it’s just an excuse to be promiscuous. The truth is you and men like that don’t assign emotion to sex, but good wholesome men do. I don’t morally align with a man that doesn’t value is body and who he gives it to, and the value to intimacy. My only boyfriend whom I did not sleep with because it was a short time and I cherish my virginity, he was considered unattractive or ok by all the women I showed him to but I liked him because I found him attractive. He treated me well and he was looking very handsome to me. I’d much prefer that, a man I find attractive in my own way over a man that tons of women are fawning over, it’s gross and competitiony. I shouldn’t have to compete or have to think about the tons of sexual partners and love interests of the man I’m interested in.

[inhua]

you can have whatever beliefs you want about men with high body counts but reality says a lot of these men still have women coming after them whether they be rappers, athletes, millionaires, male models etc. whom are only a small proportion of the total male population. historically speaking, we have far more female ancestors than male ancestors and there was no birth control back then. we're not as far evolved as a species as you'd like to believe and the current state of sexual liberation proves it. these men are simply engaging in capitalism that are enforced upon them unless you believe in the socialism concept of state-mandated girlfriends which I don't believe you believe in. unlike most men who would be happy to have just one girlfriend regardless of attraction, most women would be unhappy being with an unattractive man and rather be single or contribute to an attractive man's body count. perhaps these men do lack self-control but by your own admission, you'd find a 40 year old virgin man weird even though he could be completely loyal and in full control but your primal instincts are telling you there must be something wrong with him as opposed to him having a double digit body count where if other women find him attractive, there must be something attractive about him

[LazerBean]

You can't really expect a whore to be intelligent.

[Berethor]

Read the slut-shaming trope, because men tend to be seen as innately slutty, calling one a slut doesn't mean much, but a man sometimes called a predator instead. They give it out easily? no it's women who give it out, men fuck, women get fucked, didn't heard the saying that a woman is like a lock? it's women who are main gatekeepers of sex.

Men and women are different, if you want a fellow virgin it's fine, but you see how you compromised on 3 body count already? while many men don't want to compromise on anything less than a virgin woman. There is the also the mama's baby, papa's maybe trope, that's the main biological reason for why men tend to care about partner's virginity than women.

[Asker]

A sharpener that sharpens a lot of pencils is a good sharpener, a pencil that’s been sharpened multiple times is a useless stub. If it was true that the majority of women only marry virgins there would be no men sleeping around. It takes 2 to tango. I’ve never met a modern woman who couldn’t get a modern boyfriend because she fucked a few guys. Mind you, in a relationship I wonder how many of these “virgin only” men would be willing to wait till marriage? men like that just wanna ruin other people cause they’re useless used up shit.

[Berethor]

Heard that one before, nice try, but this analogy don't make sense, while lock and key does. You say that penis get destroyed by sex? make no sense, but slutty woman being untrustworthy totally make sense, and there is stats that support that fact. You lie that you virgin don't you? why you care so much about slutty women? you never meet a slut who was not able to get a boyfriend? one who was seen by men as good only for casual relationship but not a wife material? yea there are suckers who willing to marry a slut. What you mean by men who willing to wait until marriage? in general or with a virgin? there is many men who fucked sluts but would be willing to wait with a virgin, but yea no many men who are virgin themselves, not that it's matter that much if you accept a body counts of 3 already, I think that you can easily accept more.

[Asker]

I don't know why I can’t have an opinion on men being ducks just cause I’m a virgin. I hate whore men with a passion so the double standard tmen have about women pisses me off. Just because you don’t commit crimes doenst mean you can’t be against the death penalty. And mind you nothing changes on the graph until after 6-9 partners which mean men who act like sluts have no business fiending for virgins when they don’t have the self control to not stick their dick in everything they see. And the study wasn’t done on just women I don’t get you're point at all. A man who sleeps with a ton of women is actually more likely to be more untrustworthy considering they most likely have one foot out the door. I don’t know why you assume slutty men are somehow loyal as soon as they see a nice girl. I can assure you the gross ass whore men who approach me have no intention of slowing their shit and never do, they’re basically prostitutes. They start and can’t stop. Have you ever actually met a man who sleepy around a ton and truly settled down just because he met a virgin? It’s a matter for character.

[Berethor]

Watch the graph again, with virgin there is only 5% risk of divorce. Slutty women are more untrustworthy because of how easy it is for a woman to find sex, an open lock.

[Asker]

that also includes virgin men, not just women. What makes you think a men who sleeps around will be loyal? You refuse to acknowledge anything I ask about the loyalty of these “superior keys.” No woman is gonna stay with a man who sleeps around like a whore knocking up bitches left in right and acting like some hot dog in heat. Have some dignity that shits gross.

[Berethor]

Chris Rock said "men are only as faithful as their options", women provide the options.

[TheThingALing]

If they get in a relationship with no intention of remaining loyal, they scum. If they aren't virgins, then the girl getting cheated on does the same with a guy she feels she can control so no sympathy. Screwing with a woman's virginity though is evil

[DextroShade]

Men and women aren't the same and double standards exist for a reason. It is extremely easy for most women to get sex and extremely hard for most men to get it (1 in 3 men are either virgins or haven't had sex in a year). You as a woman could go up to random men, straight up offer them your pussy, and many of them will take you up on it. If I as man went up to random women and offered them my dick I would likely get cursed out, slapped, and possibly even charged criminally. Again, we are not the same. To be a man who is able to sleep around you HAVE to be doing something right, whether it's your fitness, your money, charisma, etc. So it's respected because it isn't easy.

Furthermore, men are inherently repulsed by promiscuous behavior in women because it signals they are a bad bet for ensuring any children he had with her are actually his.

Finally, women who have higher numbers of sexual partners are far more likely to divorce their husbands, making them a bad bet for marriage or LTR.

[Asker]

Everyone can catch an std though, having a diseased dick is far worse than sleeping with a few guys in a relationship. Taking whatever’s handing to you like some desperate dog is unattractive and shows you lack self control. No woman wants to date a pussy crazed dog who’ll take anything he can get. Sleeping around isn’t a sign or doing something right because when you see a man you’ll see that charisma and charm not his body count, men have the choice to be decent people with standards and morals to not act like a slut but choose to instead.

[PeanutbutterAnd]

Seems kind of goofy.

[Guardian45]

Bodycount is subjective. What is high to you, may not be high to someone else.

Regardless, you're entitled to your opinion and preference. Just look for a likeminded person.

[DsX_Life]

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[Anonymous]

Why do some guys sleep around and then look for a loyal woman with a low body count to settle down with? Because they can, because women allow it. Women hold men to a lower standard with respect to promiscuity than men hold women, and that's a women problem. You're crazy if you think men are going to lower their standards on this issue. The real question is, why don't women raise their?