Why do so many women degrade themselves yet still act like they are better than men?

[Anonymous]

Now this doesn't apply to all women. In our society we have many young girls who are willing to give out their bodies for favors from men;such as a girl who will sleep with a real estate agent in exchange for him giving her a place to stay on vacation. or even in Europe there are girls now who will be a sex slave to a travelling rock band so they can go on tour with them and get free ride to different places.

We have an ever increasing number of girls who go into porn now to make cash and even at Instagram model level we have models who fly off to Dubai to get shitted on for cash. We have girls who are in college yet are letting jocks/college athletes do the most degrading shit to them behind clothes doors.

[The girl sitting right next to you in class could have a sex tape out of her getting railed on the internet if you dig hard enough]

And you'd think doing all this would humble women and lower their ego level.

I mean i'm pretty sure a straight guys would not think they are still the shit if they were taking dicks up the ass to get money/favors because the degrading part would humble them alone. Yet, with women degrading themselves behind clothes doors and their pride/ego still remain intact like they are better than men.

And the funny thing is when decent guys go out in the day and walk past these same girls or even approach them, many of these girls who were whoring themselves out and letting guys do nasty shit like pee and poop on them would put their nose up into the ear and act like you are beneath them.

And before anyone says well maybe they don't see it as degrading then ask yourself this. Why do these girls go to length to make sure that the act is never mention to anyone else. For example the instagram models who do these exchange with rich men, one of them had the convo leaked and rather than owning up that she was a hoe decided to use "my phone was hacked" and that wasn't me messaging that guy or some BS like that.

[Lisathebunny]

Everything you said was just straight hypocrisy and immensely condescending. The level of bs ignorance you just presented towards women is repulsively astounding.

You could easily turn everything you just said around on guys. Men are known throughout history for being some of the biggest "whores". The only thing is they get commended for it while women get degraded by people just like yourself. Why would guys degrade themselves as far as to shit and piss on another human being? Why would guys try to soliciate sex out of someone in exchange for providing them somewhere to stay? Like what kind of morals are those and what kind of self-respect is that? I'm more than sure those same guys would do the exact same thing you're claiming women would do and stick their noses up at someone else knowing they have to pay or convince someone to sleep with them in exchange for other favors.

I'm more than positive if a guy was told he could go on tour with a female band as long as he constantly slept with them he would leap at the opportunity. But wait, wouldn't that be degradeding and a lack of self-respect? Or would it just be flipped right back onto the women?

[LittleSally]

I don't think the groupies sleep with rock stars so they can travel. Hahahaha xD

Well, people have different views of the world. Some think that's normal behavior, and to them it IS normal behavior, while others don't think so, hence they see them through the eyes of their own moral views - which makes the first group look awfully depricated of self respect.

Those that are very loose with their bodies usually don't see it as a big problem and don't connect it with self esteem or self respect, because they do what they want to do and are alright with it. Because they're more into getting what they want and not concerned with how they get it.
But there are those people who do those things and don't feel good about themselves afterwards, and fake being self respectful and like it's not a big deal because they don't know how else to deal with it - admitting it's a problem or morally wrong isn't a choice for them because that's how they live their life now.
it's complicated, I admit.

[Oram52]

If groupies didn't whore out those rock stars wouldn't let them come. Can't rememebr the actresses name now she recently said they were thrown out of Eddie Murphy party because they wouldn't sleep with them. There is no thing as free lunch.

[LittleSally]

@Oram52 You're not getting my point. Groupies literally want to sleep with celebrities they are gorupies for... Literally. O. o An actress in the context you're talking about is not a groupie, she's just an actress. It'0s not her main point to sleep with someone famous.

[Oram52]

Oh right haha yeh didn't quite grasp that lol

[Popo21]

Lol girls are hoes

[JuicyBrain]

"I mean i'm pretty sure a straight guys would not think they are still the shit if they were taking dicks up the ass to get money/favors because the degrading part would humble them alone"
If the boss of a company was a beautiful/desirable woman who told you you could have a very good paying job if you slept with her would you? I certainly would. How is taking a dick up the ass (gay sex) related to a girl having sex with a man (hetero sex)?

"clothes doors"
Of for god's sake, it's closed doors. You wrote that at least twice!

The only reason you find it degrading is because you know very well that it is a woman's super power to use sex to obtain shit in exchange. If we could do that, we'd be doing it all the time. It bothers you that women have this super power and not you. So you take a shit on them. Classy.

[JuicyBrain]

By the way. There are plenty of men who will go gay for pay in the porn business and they make a fraction of what female performers do.

[BuchitaBuchys]

It is so refreshing to see opinions that aren't full of misogyny lol especially on this site.

[JuicyBrain]

@BuchitaBuchys I believe in equality. I have been calling myself a feminist for a long time, but more and more, it seems feminazis have overtaken the word and I completely disagree with their views. So I guess I'll be calling myself an equalitarian or something. Equality for better or worse while taking in account our different biology and such...

[Khaleesi885]

Agreed. This is a very refreshing view. I still call myself a feminist but I am hesitant to say it on this site. And there are plenty of men in the porn business but no one whines and complains about them degrading men.

[JuicyBrain]

@Khaleesi885 Yep. It's like women are held to a higher standard or something. and that is the problem. Women do not have the right to fail if they do something. Equality means you can do something and fail miserably without being reminded you are a woman all the time. If a man fails at something. Than HE failed at something. If a woman fails at something, ALL women failed at it. Equality means you can do all we can do (while still taking into account our differences) and you can also fail at it just like we do. You shouldn't be expected to somehow be super women. You should make mistakes and not feel like you have humiliated your whole gender.

[Tdieseler]

I once heard from someone, an older gentleman, that most women, if not all women, are whores and all you needed was the right situation, timing and price (price didn't always have to be money).
Maybe that was a bit heavy but I've seen it ring true on many occasions. No matter how much they convince themselves, if in the right situation, that particular side will rear its head. To blame them for it is like blaming a guy for trying to muscle his way out of a jam... its pure survival instinct.
In the cases you mention, to be honest i blame (and have always blamed) guys. Just horny idiotic guys who think with nothing but the little head, they call it "degrading" but isn't that what they want anyway? those idiots are the reasons why women can do whatever they want and get away with it.

[btbc92]

That is because that is the attitude they have learned growing up as young girls, and when they first became sexually active. If the girl they first lost their virginity to has been into porn or something similar, then the girl will adapt to her first sexual experiences for the rest of her life. And with every partner she learns this from, she already believes she has more power over the guy. They can't all the time blame the guy. They need to take responsibility for themselves. This is why they can't find the "right guy". It's not that they aren't there. They're just avoiding them with their life.

So why do they do it? Because it attracts the wrong kind of guys who would just go for them anyway. And ignore potentially better mates because it gives them pleasure to have sort of control. It may look appealing now to a 12+ year old. But that is not the reality as one gets older and gets married. So many are in la-la land.

[ninetynine]

What about the guys on the other end of the exchange? You only have judgement for the girls?

Who cares what other people do, as long as they're not harming anyone.

[Smmyskittles]

I don't degrade mah-self.

My partner does that. & That 'tis enuff for me, Sir!

[BuchitaBuchys]

I have a feeling that you're not bothered much that women do this, you're more bothered that enough opportunities don't present themselves for men to do this.

Why did you bring up gay sex? There are plenty of men who do fuck dudes for money or gifts. I know of a few guys who did just that and they'd brag about it. "Bro, she's old and ugly though." "So? Look at this watch. I didn't even have to maintain eye contact."

Sure some women have this power, personally I'd prefer if more women used their brains vs bodies to get ahead in life, but they have to eat too. So if that's their hustle, then I don't think your opinion of them matters because at the end of the day, their bills are paid and there's food on the table for them.
Personally, I'd rather work 2 jobs (as I'm doing now) than to do that, but not everyone thinks like me.

Would you really feel the same disrespect to a man who was boning Oprah and got free trips and a house bought for them too? Or would you be high fiving him?

[BuchitaBuchys]

And why are you only shaming the women? Why aren't you grossed out by the men who pee or poop on them or whatever? Why don't you feel such disrespect for the men who are willingly allowing themselves to be used for money or resources in exchange for sexual favors? Sure, this women won't but the next will simply because there are men so damn willing.

[Sara413]

"Clothes doors" lol

[BaileyisDarcy]

There is plenty of shit that I like that I dont want to get out.

Not because Im ashamed, but because I know I would be judged for it.

Being proud does not mean you are blind to the opinions of others.

[zombiebabe]

girls who do that have no self-respect... that's it

[Oram52]

Lack of Self Respect? Low Self Esteam? I might have my head in the clouds but I think these girls are a minority. Your Take paints the picture all girls are whores. Problem also being like you said these girls are really good at good girl act, no one suspects a thing.

"For example the instagram models who do these exchange with rich men"
ok just for the clarification what kind of "exchange" are we talking here. Being shitted on... Say what?

[anonman32]

i would say get used to it because its not gonna go away anytime soon. and also why do you care what consenting adults do in their private time and who they are doing it with?

i mean if this one instagram girl wants to get shit on for money then why not dude? who are we to say what they can and can't do? just let this girls do what they want if this is what they want to do with their lives.

[bcromartie]

Hypocrisy!

[DannyG341]

LOL.. Seriously, I don't think he really thougght about what he was saying. Yes, it's degrading and these girls possibly have some issues, but why are there so many men wanting to do this digusting stuff? Who are the consumenrs of the worst, most violent porn? So maybe OP, you should stop and tink about that for a minute.

[Anonymous]

They doesn't have money and doesn't want to live like trash. That's simple to undertsand

[Anonymous]

Being sexual isn't degrading

[Anonymous]

You have a pretty crude + somewhat arrogant view of women... and it would have been nicer and more well educated if you stopped using the word "shit" all the time !

[Anonymous]

1. I think that the number of women who conduct themselves as you described is a very small minority of the female population and it would be a serious mistake to assume that most women should be viewed in this way.

2. For women who do conduct themselves this way. . . they are women and we are men. Trying to understand female behavior with a male mind is like trying to understand eagle behavior with a horse mind. Women do not think like men do,, so of course we don't understand them. More importantly, some women's behavior is controlled by their emotions much more so than their intellect, so there is no logic to be perceived.

[Tdieseler]

This ^^^ definitely this. Put in a slightly less provocative way than i would, but same message. You sire, if you aren't following me, should follow me so i can follow you back.