Is sex and gender the same thing?

[Subarugirl]

What do you think?

[DaveJord]

Not falling into this bailed trap to let you push your agenda.

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(chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse.
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either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.
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gen·der
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either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
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(in languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them. Grammatical gender is only very loosely associated with natural distinctions of sex.


You tell me, you can read just as good as me.

[DaveJord]

Established ideas. Is key phrase... so apparently it meand what ever you want it to mean.

[Subarugirl]

Okay now what’s the definition of gender?

[Subarugirl]

Actually I’ll save you the trouble. gen·​der ˈjen-dər plural genders 1 a : a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass c : an inflectional form (see INFLECTION sense 2a) showing membership in such a subclass

[DaveJord]

Gender was Include in original post. But was a bad cut and paste. gen·der 1. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. So of course they class gender more as traits assigned to male or female traits. Not necessarily the as purely man or female. So what don't say is that culturally and socially most people would say if have a punishment your male, vigina female... regardless if you women that has dominant male traits, or men with dominant female traits. You can more closely identify as opposite sex... but it does not make a member of opposite gender. Unless you refine cultural and social definitions. Which is what "they" are trying and limited degree very successfully doing. So it comes down what want except as the definition of sex... as noun not verb. 2. Sex either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. So a Transgender can never replicate repuductive functions of the opposite sex. So gender identity is only as relevant to which you back it.

[MCheetah]

To Liberals and the Woke idiots of the world, no, sex and gender is not the same thing. Because to them "sex is biological and gender is behavioral and social." Which is how they make up all their nonsense words like "non-binary, genderfluid, two-spirit" and the such. Prior to 2010, we used to just call non-feminine females "tomboys" and non-masculine males "effetes" or "twinks." But now, every loser wants to think they're special and make up new terms for genders and sexualities that literally never existed twelve years ago. Because the political left unironically think they are the ones who believe more in "science, medicine, and reality." (Neither side does, to be clear. They just pick and choose when reality suits them and when it doesn't.)

To pedants of the world, no, sex and gender is not the same thing because one is a verb used for reproduction, and the other is a noun used to denote male or female. One is also a no-no word for children, while the other is more PG/child friendly.

To most people and throughout all of human history, yes, sex and gender is always was the same thing. And that matters more than mentally idiots morons who just suck at being feminine as a girl or masculine as a guy and want an easy way out instead of manning/womaning up.

[anonanonanonomys]

Gender and sex are the same thing most of the time society wise and grammatically. However throughout history the things (outside anatomy) that make up ones gender have changed. Like what makes a boy a boy and a girl a girl. Features of femininity and masculinity have been interchangeable through generations. Do I believe labeling extra genders or identifying as nonbinary is necessary. Not really but the idea of not presenting yourself however society deems you should based biological gender is understandable. Were essentially at a time of androgyny on crack.

[MCheetah]

And that matters more than *mentally ill idiots and morons

[Subarugirl]

If they aren’t directly hurting anyone why does it matter to you?

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl It's directly hurting my sense of objective reality, common sense, and sanity. I'm not exactly a fan of gaslighting and bullsh*t masquerading as "the truth."

[anonanonanonomys]

Maybe you should live life with a more secure sense of what you perceive as reality then it won't affect you so much

[Subarugirl]

@anonanonanonomys That is a brilliant point. My thought exactly

[MCheetah]

@anonanonanonomys No. It's not my job to entertain mentally ill people's insane bullsh*t of what thy WANT to believe gender and sexuality is. And I'm pretty sure this comment is hypocritical, because if I believed you to be a stupid person, or a criminal, or someone who should be exiled from society, and say you should be treated as such, I'm sure you'd disagree, if not outright state my sense of "reality" regarding you is either wrong or offensive. So unless you are immune to being offended yourself, I'm not going to believe or follow such offensive things as "a woman being a social construct" and gender dysphoria not being a mental illness for losers who can't cope with reality, let alone believe others should play along with their delusions, lest they be labeled "transphobic" or some other useless buzzword.

[Subarugirl]

For someone who has supposedly gone to a “real school” I’m surprised that you were never taught in science the difference between sex and gender since there has been a clear distinction in science and the medical field between the two since the 1950s.

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl 1. I never stated public schools were "superior" to home schooling or had better education, so that's already a false dichotomy. 2. I went to school in the 90s and 2000s, before all this woke BS of trying to redefine words for mentally ill people even existed. (Cause that's how ages seem to work, or do you not think that the 2010s were a different time than the 2000s?) 3. In the liberal lunatic university I went to, they did try to argue that gender and sex are two different things. But that's irrelevant like I said, because knowledge, let alone propaganda, doesn't instantly make something "the truth." In universities right now, they're trying to teach Critical Race Theory, so by your own logic, you should shut up and apologize to me, a black person, for you being an upper middle class white woman, since you're going on the premise that "if a school says it, it must be true, factual, or credible information." 4. I already explained to you the woke distinctions between gender and sex in my own comment, so trying to act like I don't already know "your" liberal definitions of sex and gender being separate, is disingenuous. 5. You don't need liberal curriculums in universities to tell you that gender isn't imaginary or socially constructed. It's common sense, unless you hate facts and reality.

[anonanonanonomys]

@MCheetah your way of defending your point of view is completely invalidated by your use of "quoting" assumptions you have made about @Subarugirl and being derogatory. Your argument and how you are proving your point is completely formulated by dismissing valid historic facts and assuming because it is YOUR perspective, it is the truth. Something neither @Subarugirl or I are arguing is that we are absolutely correct. In regards to your message directed towards me, I want to point out that if in your argument you have to go to extreme hypotheticals to make a point, maybe your point isn't very good :) but please don't assume you know what notions I support or don't in order to strengthen your argument.

[Anonymous]

To some people yeah I guess. Honestly though I find it hard to understand why gender is so important because sure I like being s girl but I think I’d be equally happy as whatever I was not have to claim I was something else. Same as sure I’ll fuck a guy or a girl but I don’t feel the need to label my sexuality. I just don’t understand getting worked up about being the wrong gender or whatever when there’s no right or wrong way to be male or female because I don’t think anyone ever really can change gender (it’s always obvious to other people your natural sex) so whats the point why can’t you just wear. Whatever.

[Faith18letsgo]

Not at all. Sex is this kinda fake thing with cromazomes and genitalia and hormones. Gender is this other kinda fake things with roles, and expectations, and norms.

[WindAtMyBack]

Yes they are the same thing. They have always been the same thing. People who try to change language to push an agenda are just playing games with words, but not presenting any valid argument.

You can change the name of things all you want, but it doesn't change the thing itself. The word does not add legitimacy. Using a scientific sounding word doesn't add legitimacy either.

This entire argument basically goes like this. "Gender" is a legitimate word. It's a scientific word. Therefore if you call something that word, it legitimizes it and gives it credibility. No it doesn't. If that could be done then you could prove that literally anything is true.

That unicorn is a cow. Cows are real, therefore unicorns are real. It's a meaningless argument. If you want to prove that unicorns exist, then present some real proof. Simply changing the name you call it means nothing.

[Subarugirl]

So what makes you think that sex and gender are the same thing?

[WindAtMyBack]

That's like asking what the word car means, or what the word hat means. I learned English more than 60 years ago and that's what the words mean. But you are missing the point. The name you assign to something is irrelevant. The people who try to make an argument by assigning a word are making no argument at all.

[Subarugirl]

Okay that’s fine because I’m talking about the medical and scientific definitions of sex as opposed to gender, so I’m not assigning anything.

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl WindAtMyBack is right, but if you want an answer to your question, sex is chromosomal, gender is organic. Your sex is determined by your chromosomes, and your gender is determined by your sex organs, i. e, a penis, vagina, uterus, etc. You can TRY to argue that sex and gender aren't the same thing scientifically by claiming a woman with two X chromosomes can lack a uterus or someone can be a hermaphrodite/intersex, but it's largely irrelevant since 99.999% of all human beings with two X chromosomes, a woman/girl, have a vagina and uterus. Trying to change the meaning of something based on an extremely rare exception or mutate, is irrelevant. And that's not getting into the woke BS of "gender being whatever you believe it to be." That's sticking solely to medical science.

[Subarugirl]

@MCheetah The World Health Organisation regional office for Europe describes sex as characteristics that are biologically defined, whereas gender is based on socially constructed features. The Canada Institute of Health Research also specifies the difference between sex and gender stating “ Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals.” while “Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.“ Even the NIH differentiate between the two by stating that “sex is biological” and that “ Gender is a social or cultural concept.”. So I’ll ask you again. What medical science are you basing your opinion on?

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl You mean the same WHO that licked China's balls during COVID and said that China handled the COVID outbreak better than any other country and were 0% responsible for COVID happening? You're unironically using THAT WHO as a credible source? Seriously? You'd literally be better off using nothing than a widely known discredited organization like the WHO. Why not get Anthony Fauci to tell you that vaccines kill 100% of the coronavirus, while you're at it. Regardless, I don't need the WHO to tell me that "gender is a social construct." The messed up part is, even IF we agree that gender is socially constructed, where do we get gender from? We get it from sex, that's right! So what exactly is the point here? It's male and female; masculine and feminine. Other than arguing semantics or trying to imply "new genders outside the male-female binary can exist," you're really not saying much of anything. Especially when your sources says such retarded sh*t as "gender diverse people." I already told you that medical institutions and scientists are not infallible and immune to corruption and LGBT propaganda, so your arguments of "they say this somewhere" mean nothing. You'd have to have the majority of medical and scientific professionals agree with you on this, to make it valid. No one cares what some woke quake "professional" thinks. And it's sad that you think that makes your argument valid. Pay enough money to anyone and they'll say whatever you want. If gender was a social construct, then it wouldn't exist in animals. Yet animals display differences between males and females (which come from sex differences). If gender was human-made, then how could animals display gender differences, as well? Especially non-mammal animals, like fish, birds, and reptiles? You do know of peacock mating rituals, right? You're arguing a lot and saying absolutely nothing of depth here. ... As usual.

[Subarugirl]

You’re really wishing to die on your transphobic rock aren’t you? Lol

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl ... And THERE'S the typical ad hominem non-argument that adds nothing to the discussion. Great job. Guess that means I "won" this one. Nothing else needs to be said. Okay, goodbye!

[Subarugirl]

@MCheetah I won't have a debate with someone who is trying to dispute medical science terminology that has been longer than you have been alive.

[PositiveFlight]

Yes, the two are inseparably tied together. No matter one’s feelings or how they identify

[Subarugirl]

Actually no, not scientifically or biologically.

[PositiveFlight]

We can both agree to disagree. That’s your right to believe how you want and my right too. Where I’m coming from is that I refuse to call salt sweet and sugar savory. I refuse to participate in living within an alternate reality. People can believe whatever they want to believe but the reality is XX and XY. God created man and woman, no others. You are born a child of God as you were created. You don’t get to change that or self reassign who and what you are. I refuse to play into peoples own self deception.

[Subarugirl]

I mean yeah, but I am not talking about feelings. I am talking about science.

[Agagagagaga]

Why do you ask these goddamn questions when you just criticize people for not agreeing with you?

[Subarugirl]

@Agagagagaga Well I dont care if he agrees with me or not. But if someone is trying to present blatantly incorrect information as fact, I am not going to agree with something that is wrong. I mean there are people that believe the earth is flat, They can believe that but that doesn't mean that I am going to agree with them.

[PositiveFlight]

I don’t care if you agree with me or not either. As I said, we can agree to disagree. Freedom of speech protects your right to your opinion and it protects my right to mine. You asked for peoples opinions so here is mine. You are making the false notion that I am blatantly trying to assert false information. My question to you is how can something so clearly unmistakable, be interpreted as something 180° opposite of reality and logic? Do you want me to believe that a persons sex a. k. a. penis vs. vagina are perhaps not the same as their gender, also penis and vagina? Furthermore, you want me to believe that someone who is XY might actually be someone who is XX simply due to their mental reassignment? You are the one who is claiming scientific means here. Are XX and XY not scientific methodology in determining the gender makeup of a human being? Furthermore, if a person who is XX feels like they want to be XY, would that not constitute more of a mental illness? Or perhaps a chemical imbalance due to environment variables and poor nutrition or lack thereof? It still doesn’t negate true gender and sexing of human beings. It really is that binary and simple. I can’t believe we’re even having this conversation in today’s society where human intelligence is supposedly greater than its ever been! It seems many can’t see the forest for the trees! Do you seriously want me to admit to you it’s midnight dark, even though I can see the sun with my own two eyes up at high noon?

[Subarugirl]

No I am talking about how the medical and scientific community recognize that sex and gender are different and not the same thing. I mean that is standard information in the medical and scientific community.

[PositiveFlight]

I guess I’m unfamiliar with the type of mental gymnastics that are being used in the medical and scientific community to determine such. They are not the end all be all either. Science and medical 100 years ago had people taking mercury as medicine or bleeding people. Obviously that was a retraction of junk science. We are learning more and more about the Covid vaccines and how dangerous they are, while not actually providing protection to people whatsoever. Another check for bad science. Science can be paid off to make anything seem scientific in nature. I’m interested in truth and reality.

[Subarugirl]

Not mental gymnastics, technical definitions and classifications.

[katiesmuff]

Yes it is

[Derekk]

No they're not. Frankly I think gender should just be done away with completely as a category. What does it mean to "feel like a man?" I'm supposedly a man and haven't the faintest idea. So I'm either gender-queer, or there are a whole lot of people who base their personal identity on something pretty trivial and silly (to me anyways). Be they cisgender or transgender.

[TheorionMage]

'Sex' is the physical plumbing, 'gender' is a mix of promulgated mindset observed in your formative years and socialization intimacy abetted by onboard hormones.
If it FEELS arousing an initial 'cause / affect' behavior is begun, refined and encoded through experimental repetition. 'Naughty' is defined by OTHER'S responses to what arouses YOUR animal self most expediently... From NATURE'S agenda, 'slutty' is a species survival 'virtue' and your orgasmic climax its incentive 'reward' to reinforce YOUR future behaviors~ ; )

[Nomina]

Yes.

[Sour-rose]

Someone is gonna try and scream at me but no. No, it ain't. Now let me drink my coffee and get back to work

[integrale77]

Way I see it sex is what physical sex you are, gender may overlap slightly but can also be what sex you associate yourself with which might not be what you where assigned at birth.

The 3rd element is attraction i. e. what sex (s)/gender (s) you are attracted to e. g. if you say you are bisexual that is not a gender it means you are attracted to males and females.

If you are transexual you feel your sex assigned at birth was wrong and you consider your gender different but it does not define your attraction.

[irifebeck]

Sex and gender is not the same thing. One is a biological categorization and the other is a social construct.

[Berethor]

To most people it the same, it's mostly LGBT who claim otherwise, I was born with my gender.

[Subarugirl]

And the medical and scientific community

[Berethor]

Those of them who got political? biologically there is only male and female.

[Subarugirl]

No, I mean established medical and scientific terminology across the board. Sex and gender are used to describe two separate things.

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl
"No, I mean established medical and scientific terminology across the board. Sex and gender are used to describe two separate things."

That's complete bullsh*t. No, the ENTIRE medical and scientific community is not woke, like you're trying to lie about. A few of them are getting paid to push the BS however, but no one said the medical and scientific communities don't have people in them that would break the Hippocratic oath and abuse children with "gender reaffirming care" by lying to them and making them believe they're "trans," starting with outright lies that "gender is a social construct and has nothing to do with sex."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYF-hdmkvYs

[Subarugirl]

@MCheetah no need to get all worked up I’m not talking about trans. I’m specifically taking about the difference between sex and gender. The World Health Organisation regional office for Europe describes sex as characteristics that are biologically defined, whereas gender is based on socially constructed features. The Canada Institute of Health Research also specifies the difference between sex and gender stating “ Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals.” while “Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.“ Even the NIH differentiate between the two by stating that “sex is biological” and that “ Gender is a social or cultural concept.”. So I’ll ask you again. What medical science are you basing your opinion on?

[abc3643]

No, sex and gender are not the same thing.

There are 3 things at play here and they are all genetically determined or determined as a result of congenital issues during pregnancy:

1. Sex: That is based on the genitalia that you possess and the genes in your gametes.
2. Sexual Orientation: Which sex you are attracted to.
3. Gender: Which sex you perceive yourself as.

The first is dictated by the genes and congenital development of the genitalia.

The last two are dictated by the genes and congenital development of the brain.

Now, mutations in genes or congenital issues in pregnancy can affect all of these. In particular, being a genetic chimera in which you have two different sets of genes. If a genetic chimera has one set of genes as male and the other set as female, almost certainly, you are going to have someone with LGBT issues.

[SnowedIn]

They are not. Sex in this context is biological, based on your chromosomes. Gender is a social assignment, usually based on that biological marker and/or genitalia, but sometimes chosen otherwise.

[mrmonogamous]

In my opinion, yes. If you have any confusion as to what your sex/gender is, look in your pants. If you see a penis, you’re a guy. If you don’t, you’re a girl. It’s that easy! Anything else is a massive psychological issue that requires a shit load of counseling.

[Subarugirl]

Are you referring to a person's sex or gender?

[mrmonogamous]

Sex and gender are the same. They were only separated to serve a social agenda being pushed by those who believe gender is fluid depending on how someone feels at any given time. These are the San people who encourage prepubescent CHILDREN to take puberty blockers and suggest actual sex-reassignment surgeries. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE should be legally allowed to do that without being at least 18 years of age. Children are not prepared to make life altering decisions based on some crazy liberal agenda.

[Subarugirl]

But they aren't, not according to medical science or the scientific definitions of those words for the past 70 years

[MendaciousMarxist]

Sex is what you're assigned at birth (some times wrongly) and gender is what you identify as. Sex can also mean the fun you have with your partner lmao

[WhitneySnow]

No. Sex is biological. Gender is who you really are. I think?

[Chazmatazz269]

I’ve taken to an interpretation that suggests “sex is the hardware and gender is the software”. So, intrinsically connected but not the same.

[Sixgunsound]

Not at all. One is real 1 is a political fantasy.

[AviatorTom]

No, sex is the medical term for male and female, determined by chromosomes. Gender is a social term for man and woman, determined by how they react in a social environment.

In most cases, female=woman and male=man, but there are exceptions.

[Agape93]

Sex is an act, gender is biology

[Subarugirl]

Well sex has two primary definitions. Scientifically sex is either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

[Agape93]

I know lol I'm being a bit of a snark

[Subarugirl]

Hahah lol okay that makes a lot more sense

[Subarugirl]

Hey since you are here, can you maybe do something about @Alperengin4 he's had his account banned at least twice now for sexual harassment and rape threats. Looks like he's back at it again with a 3rd account..

[Agape93]

And another one, Alperengin5 right now. I told Priya and reported his account. If he contacts you, don't engage him. Tag me, prettypriya or secretsofkb Screenshot it, then block and report him. We will handle that fitte

[Dargil]

Sexbis penis or vagina. Gender is the application of male and female to language.