Why are most women shamed for having sex with multiple guys?

[Anonymous]

Why is that? What is wrong with it that woman are shamed for that and I see a lot of woman like that on twitter and tik tok.

[MrOracle]

Men and women value different things in a partner. This used to be widely understood, but it isn't anymore, because Feminists have done their best to teach women to BECOME the man she really wants to be with. This is why women are far less happy today - they've been taught to go against their nature.

Anyway, generally, woman want a man who is strong (why so many women today want a TALL man), who is well-educated, who is financially successful, and who has high status (I didn't mention looks because everyone likes beauty). Why do women want these things in a man? Because these traits are strongly correlated with successful long-term relationships and families.

Men DO NOT SHARE these desires in their female partners - mostly because they already have these things to some degree or other. Instead, men value women who are young (fertile), innocent/inexperienced, feminine, cooperative, family-oriented, and peaceful. Why? Because these traits are strongly correlated with successful long-term relationships and families.

Women are hypergamous - they are inherently drawn to find the "best" man they can get. This was a survival strategy. But this also means that women are constantly comparing every man they've been with against the guy they're currently with, and if the current guy doesn't match up to any of their past men in any area, it's going to bother her. Her hypergamy means she wants to "level up" in every area every time - despite how unrealistic that is in reality. She can be with a fantastic guy who she knows is great - but maybe he doesn't have as high a degree as a guy from her past, or isn't as good a dancer, or doesn't make as much money, or isn't as tall, or whatever. Even if he's better than the past guys in 90 different ways, the 1 way that he's not will bother her, and over time, it will make her unsatisfied. She'll complain to her friends about it, and they'll tell her to "dump that bum and take him to the cleaners" and likely, she will. Just look at girls here on GaG - anytime a girl complains about her relationship, tons of other girls - who may only know 1 minor thing about the relationship - tell her to dump his ass.

Men understand this, and they understand that the more people a woman has dated, much less slept with, the harder it will be for her to be satisfied with any man in the future. And since men tend to have much more to lose, given that courts STRONGLY favor women, men see women with more men in their past as being of lower value.

What does THAT mean? For some men, it means that they'll just show no interest in her and stay away, or keep her at arm's length and never get too close to her (keep her as an acquaintance rather than a friend). For other men, they simply see her as "only good for sex" - meaning they'll give her attention as long as she gives him casual sex, but he'll never seriously consider her for a relationship. The thing is, most women don't realize that he's made that decision - she'll tell herself that he sees her as a relationship partner, when he only sees her as a chick to bang for a while.

Like it or not, you'll never change what men value in women, just like men can't change what women value in men. We have very good reasons for valuing the things we do. And, yes, there are going to be exceptions to every rule, but exceptions are just that: rare anomalies. The vast majority of people are "the rule", and the rule will apply to them.

[HawkPerception]

Always words of gold with ya

[TenderFantasy]

What a bunch of baloney honestly. I am not "Hypergamous"! In fact, I'd dated a lot of MEN that were like this, including my last one! He broke up with me because he thought I wasn't good enough for him! He wanted someoe/something better or whatever I believe. I also went out with a HOMELSS man with drug issues in the past so hypergamy really? ? ! Only EVIL people of both genders do that! And people need to WORK to make a living, it's not because they WANT to really! Your 4 upvotes is telling me a lot of about the mentality of the people here sadly. "Anyway, generally, woman want a man who is strong (why so many women today want a TALL man), who is well-educated, who is financially successful, and who has high status (I didn't mention looks because everyone likes beauty). Why do women want these things in a man? Because these traits are strongly correlated with successful long-term relationships and families." Strong is good yeah, for protection, but why is that needed when you're armed? ? ! Also, not all young women are Peaceful. Have you seen the women that are out there these days? ? ! Lol, LGBTQ type of women, etc.

[nastyb]

and what makes you think men aren't hypergamous when they are always trying to date women 20 years younger?

[TenderFantasy]

@nastyb Thank you omg.

[MrOracle]

@TenderFantasy Men, as a rule, aren't hypergamous - it's extremely common for men to date women below their level, and it's women who overwhelmingly end relationships, and usually because they think they can get something better. The whole reason women CAN be hypergamous is because men will date women below their own level. Your one anecdote doesn't change what hundreds of surveys have confirmed. Female hypergamy is a well established phenomenon in psychology. No one is telling women to date homeless drug addicts either - that's another fallacy. Just because trying to date signfiicantly above your own level isn't a good idea (you'll almost always get used and then discarded if you do), that doesn't mean you must go to the opposite end of the curve and date homeless addicts. There's this HUGE population of men IN THE MIDDLE of the curve that you completely ignore - and yet those are the men - almost the ONLY men - who are willing and able and interested in giving you what you want. You can ignore them in favor of chasing the top guys that will pump and dump you that you'll never keep, or you can be alone, or you can actually look at the guys in the middle of the curve and build a potentially great life with one of them. That choice is yours, and ultimately your choice won't affect me, so I don't care what you do. Just don't complain about your outcomes if you choose poorly.

[nastyb]

@MrOracle why can't women date rich men while men are always chasing younger, more attractive women?

[LadyKitty]

@nastyb Some even do this when they are married in their 40s and 50s!

[Avicenna]

@nastyb: Men do not "always" do that. Most men don't.

[nastyb]

@Avicenna weren't you the one who demanded to date only women 20 years younger? now you're criticizing women for wanting rich men

[TenderFantasy]

@MrOracle My las ex was maybe "at my level" (whatever that means for anybody these days lol), and yet he dumped me thinking he was better than. That homeless I dated ages ago, well, that was a special time in my life. Weirdly enough, I was PROPOSED to by that man, and he was actually nicer than the guy I last dated, at least when he was sober. .. It's real embarrasing to admit that I went out with that guy to be honest but hey at least I am honest. The last guy I was with was more judgmental and critical than that one! So weird. My point is that men aren't as nice as you think either. I think hypergamy occurs on both sides of the sexes.

[nastyb]

@MrOracle quite funny how a man who prances around GAG insisting that all women lose value once she hits 30, also claim that he is not hypergamous.

[Belgie]

Very well thought out response. Have to laugh at the girls offended by it. They'll scream "I'm not like that therefore most women aren't like that. Never saw such a backward ass desire to be average before...

[Avicenna]

@nastyb: You have a very difficult time keeping things straight. I didn't criticize women for any such thing, here or elsewhere, nor is a man wanting to date much younger women the equivalent of women wanting to date rich men. Of course people want their ideal, or as close to it as they can get. Guess what? A cursory glance around in public will tell you that they'll happily settle for much less. Women can want to date rich men all they want, but relatively few of them will have a monogamous relationship with him where he spends a lot of money on her (the latter being what she really wants). This is not only because there's a limited supply of rich men, especially ones willing to do that, but because they'll inevitably end up (at best) sharing these guys with many other women and not getting what they really want (they don't want to share the pie with other women or the guy's kids). So they can all hold out for rich guys and the vast majority can end up disappointed or they can be more realistic and still get one the plenty of good guys out there who aren't rich (and your definition of rich might be different than mine). I do not "demand to date" anyone, but women my age can't have kids any longer (and I still also date women my age). If consenting adults are willing to date each other despite age gaps, I don't see a problem.

[WhiteSteve]

Bottom line is dudes are insecure. If they think it’s “gross” or whatever, I don’t understand why it’s any less so for a guy who gets around.

A lot of people struggle with the idea of their partner being with somebody else, even before they met them. I don’t like to think about it either, but I don’t let it eat me alive, and I wasn’t living in a monastery either, so who would I even be to object? After your teenage years, you aren’t going to be planting any flags in new territory, so just don’t fuckin’ worry about it, lmao.

I think with dudes there’s an added pressure in sex for us in that we’re doing a lot of the delivery, so how good or bad the sex is depends pretty heavily on us. A woman, to some extent, sort of just “be there” and it’s still adequate. Guys have to get hard, stay hard, most positions constitute exercise for us even before you get into to rythym and all that, and all the while most of us seem to have some crippling complex that the guys before us were bigger or better or whatever. We know women are hot commodities and they can be stolen away in an instant by a superior competitor, and that freaks men the fuck out, I think.

Men seem much more solely driven by sex than women, yet the sex comes harder to us and it comes easily to women, if they want it. It’s a scarcity of resources reaction in some aspect. It’s why men fight over women….”if she fucks YOU then who am I gonna fuck?”, that’s what it boils down to. It’s relatively hard to find the next one, at least one that meets your personal standards. So you hold on for dead life when you get one (yet we fuck it up the second we have options🤦‍♂️😂).

Guys are just perpetually sexually insecure, despite outwardly projecting confidence. You ever meet the white guys who don’t want women who have been with black guys? What do you think that’s about? What stereotypes are they operating off of?🤔😂 But you can’t look outwardly insecure, that looks weak, and in male circles, just about the worst possible thing you can be is weak. So our brains do gymnastics and we learn to blame others’ behaviors and attitudes rather than our own because it’s psychologically easier to handle. If I break up with my girlfriend, I might go on a dry spell. She’s on a new dick the next weekend, if she wants. It’s at-will, and we guys HATE that, both due to insecurity and jealousy.

So that’s all going on internally, and it just manifests itself as the standard slut-shaming you see in the world. But some wild shit is going on beneath the surface on the way to that action, haha

[hahahmm]

I don't think it has anything to do with sex really.. because if a man only wants sex he doesn't care if she's been with 10,000 dudes. As long as she doesn't have some horrible disease to give him. Now when it comes to taking a woman seriously that's a different story. You'd be a fool to take someone seriously if you don't or cannot trust them to be loyal. So it boils down to the question of if she behaves like someone who isn't loyal, can she be loyal? Now, of course, women who want to sleep around a lot don't want guys to notice/care about that behavior. It's like a hardcore gambling/drug addict getting upset because you don't want to give them money when they claim it's to feed their kid.

[Eyes4U758]

Couldn't agree more. Well said brother!

[WhiteSteve]

@hahahmm well, I mean…promiscuity when single and ability to be loyal when committed aren’t the same thing, though, so I’m not ready to just assume someone who lived life and slept around at one point is unable to shut that off and get hopefully the same amount, if not MORE sex, with just one person. If you sleep with a hundred people one time each, or you sleep with one person a hundred times, that’s still the same volume of sex. So you’re replacing the sex 1-for-1 in that aspect if it’s a frequency issue. STDs are real and there’s for sure a health component to consider, but if everyone can submit a clean STD test, it was all no harm, no foul. If you want to wonder about sexual expression being a result of past psychological trauma, we can have that discussion, but I look at that problem (if it is one) with compassion for the person and the root cause, not disdain for the result.

[hahahmm]

As far as "promiscuity when single and ability to be loyal when committed aren’t the same thing, though". Right, but it's like financial credit. Just because someone has a super low credit rating doesn't mean that if you loan them 1,000 they won't pay you back. It just means it's less likely they will. A lot of guys want to make decisions based on evidence/objective reasons and less based on feelings/hopes/wishing for the best. Of course people can change also... so if someone did something far in their past it's less likely to influence their present. I'm not claiming that if someone was a porn star 20 years ago and gave up that life they're the same person today. BUT there's a lot of stories out there of people who claimed to change, got a sucker to believe them & then went right back to their old ways. Lots. The other issue is that women seem to collect baggage easier than men. A woman who slept with a bunch of dudes gets messed up as far as relationship goes. It's like she has all the ghosts of relationships past in her mind. It's a lot of extra work for a guy to even try to overcome that. Guys tend to hold less baggage. This has been my observation & the observation of a lot of other guys.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

High Value is a Key Word

1. Women who can't say "No" are viewed weak. Some men lose respect once they think a woman's been with too many men, even themselves included. Biologically... some members here mentioned about this already. Yes I agree. (Though from what I've learned so far there's a reason why male and female bodies were designed as we are now.) And to me it's not like men can have multiple partners either. High value men to me means they have standards as well. Everybody has the right to choose. On the other hand, we all would like to be the special one. Right?

2. This behavior also implies that women's ability to evaluate potential risks is low. How come they can trust men they don't get to know long enough to be intimate with? If it's purely because of instant gratification, it's impossible to be seen as a good long term partner. If they don't learn from the past and still repeat the pattern... (insert your interpretion here.)

I've been reading most of these comments. Thanks to you guys for more references.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Monogamy was created by men, so the less physically fit men would have a chance to reproduce too. Now men look down on monogamy, not realizing it’s something they created and imposed on women…

Men don’t like the thought of women possibly conceiving from other men.

Which historically a lot of women have done.

Men know that the type of women they are physically attracted to, are also attractive to the vast majority of other men.

So, a woman can literally pick anyone she wants.

Man has only one thing left - To make you feel ashamed, looked down…

And it works…

I am monogamous, possibly because my ancestor females were too.

[Eifjf84jr]

Monogamy had to be practiced by women because they needed the biggest and strongest man to protect and feed them. It was not however practiced by men which is why you've likely heard the term 'bastard' where a married man had a kid with some other woman. Resultingly, nothing would happen to the man, the married woman, though upset, wouldn't leave because she was still under his protection, and the other woman recieved no protection, and was pretty much regarded as a leper

[ButtFloggedTroll]

It is the opposite. When you look at this photo, they're actually trying to touch her. But their fingers are too short. #sizematters

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[ButtFloggedTroll]

@bean2k25_ wtf? I made it definitely more than 2 thousand characters long and still 2 nerds actually wrote longer opinions? Nooooo I am losing MHO.

[bean2K25_]

People underestimate the importance of long fingers for inflicting punishment on slaves.

[ButtFloggedTroll]

@bean2K25_ your other opinion on Rachel's cuckoldry quest... I don't know if you saw my post it was pretty fucking hilarious. "Why not make a trolling video of yourself screaming "INSERT YOUR MOM'S NAME HERE" each time the guy cummers? You'll be the next big online troll sensation, and I'll be there in the comments section, cheering you on, all the way from my mom's basement. Trust me, it's the perfect life for a troll like me.

[ButtFloggedTroll]

@bean2K25_ I already had her in my untrannify. github. io/links But I unblocked just to leave that opinion

[Daniela1982]

@buttfloggedtroll Don't worry about it. The AI Bot gave the MHO this time. That tin plated boobie has no idea who to choose for MHO so just flips a coin.

[ButtFloggedTroll]

@Daniela1982 MHO was chosen before I posted the opinion. @thanks_for_the_mho

[Daniela1982]

Because they are Hoes maybe? How many "multiple" guys are you talking about? Going through the whole senior class or just a few in a year? A virtuous woman is highly praised while a skank isn't.

[KarinMcDonald]

It's the ageless double standard.

[bobalife]

Double standards. But it’s your body, you do you girl.

[IslaTheWitch]

Multiple guys at the same time or consequently?

[TheorionMage]

Despite the availability of contraceptive prophylactics, Natural inclination is for fertilization and near absolute certainty of 'who's heir's offspring is resulting. Even the staid Hebrews genuinely ONLY trace their parentage via the mother, SINCE only she has the greatest firsthand insight whom she's lain with during her fertile period. Whether out of marital 'duty' or for recreational pleasure... NATURE doesn't care as long as 'conception results. Species continuance is the end game.
And... Western society places GREAT importance on a girl's FIRST experience (good or ill) some... to their ignorance as 'damaged goods' or 'soiled doves'.

Consider WHO'S doing the shaming.
Personally, I'd PREFER to be remembered, as he who brought her most pleasured intimacy and THAT factors MANY aspects, including arousing HER enthusiastic participatory concupiscence!

Regale me NOT, with HOW MANY you've bedded; that's circumstantial 'salesmanship'. INSTEAD, boast of how many bid you return yet AGAIN another day; ...

THAT is skill & 'craftsmanship'!

[hahahmm]

Because men don't want women like that in a serious relationship. We don't want the woman who is getting seed from other dudes in her pretending to be pregnant with our baby or kissing us with some other dude's seed all over her. Well, not those of us who are actually normal/healthy. Women are free to shame men for sleeping with lots of women but they don't. Men & women don't have the same ideas/concepts about the opposite gender.

Also women aren't really shamed these days compared to say 30+ years ago. You have what feminists always wanted: sexual freedom. It's just that you will be held accountable for your life choices by men who aren't interested in that kind of women. Feminists were wrong when they thought they had the power to ignore/silence men's opinions, thinking that meant they took a man's power. They did not.

[EmyyWolf]

Because BIOLOGICALLY women aren’t built to screw multiple men. They get attached easily. And if a woman isn’t able to get attached easily to one male after sex.

Chances are something is wrong with her psychologically. Like trauma. Or childhood r—pe..

[blueonblack22]

Well lots modern women are actually “proud“ of promiscuity nowadays. Since college (which was a long time ago for me) I can count the times on one hand I’ve heard a man call a woman a “whore, slut, etc.”. In fact I more often hear women openly shaming other women over promiscuity vs men openly shaming women (we often judge silently)

However I personally go back and forth on this. I often get pissed off at lot of unchecked societal double standards modern women enjoy (and refuse to acknowledge). But I also get the point on this particular double standard young men get to enjoy or at least used to.

Years ago it was true to that younger men are praised for sexual promiscuity (especially if the women they getting are attractive) and women were shamed for it. But on the flip side if a young man was not good with women he often got teased, shamed and bullied for it (which only double downed on his insecurities). However all a young woman has to do to stay pure was say no. She wouldn’t be judged harshly if she never had a boyfriend and/or was a virgin the same way a young man would.

Anyway here are a few pointers to consider:

• Women are still the gatekeepers of sex. Even in the “modern” world it’s still guys who are expected to approach women and stick their necks out to make something happen. Yes more women are approaching but it’s nowhere near 50/50 (probably never will be). This takes: looks, courage, risk taking, game, timing, luck, money, time, etc. Women just have to look good, not be completely insane and say “yes” or “no” to being propositioned. If they are at least semi attractive then men will always approach them.
• Men who get lots of female action are judged as “in demand” and valuable. There are psychological studies where two control groups of women were shown random pictures of men. One group saw men in pictures by themselves. The other group saw pictures of men next to attractive women. The guys who were standing next to hot women were overall rated as more attractive by women (no surprise). They did the same study for men rating attractiveness in women by themselves or alongside men. The woman being alone or with somebody had zero impact on the man’s judgement of how attractive the woman was.
• The female body is not built for promiscuity. This is simple biology but one man can get multiple women pregnant in one night. Obviously a woman can get only get pregnant by one man. That’s not “sexist” that is simple hard coded biology.

Now men do have a hypocritical role in pressuring women to hook up but at the same time judging women who do so (with other men besides themselves). I’m aware of that paradox.

However I can also tell you that as men age they get less and less “respect” for being promiscuous. There comes a day when a man is looked at as no better then a promiscuous women at a certain age. The creep factor goes up.

Anyway if you asked this same question 20 to 30 years ago it would be more relevant. But from my observations the “slut shaming” coming from men is not what it once was.

[incorrected]

It's biologically driven, women select and men pursue, which is why that hasn't changed despite "equality". Women will chase "high value" men, usually players/chads in their youth, and then they get bored when they try to settle down because they've made their sex life into something like a drug addiction. It's actually difficult for a man to sleep with very many women unless he's good looking or high value in some way; poor men, especially those born into poverty with single mothers who slept around, usually can't even get a date until they've sorted out their psychological problems (single mothers don't know how to raise boys, and just because that boy praises her up like a pet emotional tampon most single mothers think they're great), built their working lives up, and quite frankly in a poor economy a good chunk of men just die alone. The dynamics are not the same AT ALL. People are valued for achieving difficult things, not for just showing up and being given things, and women can mostly just show up...

[molonski2]

Because when body count hits a certain level , she is considered just an ultra Slut , and thats probably what she is.

[slyznsen]

But the question was, why are women considered "ultra sluts" and not men?

[molonski2]

Because its easy to run up massive numbers , so of course the woman will always be considered the ultra ultra slut ! Vastly different for a man , not even remotely the same.

[slyznsen]

It is remotely the same though.. Body counts are still body counts regardless of if its a man or woman

[molonski2]

@slyznsen Its NOT the same , and as you grow older you will see this. If a guy bangs a SLUT who has a body count of 150 ( as an example ) he just bangs her because its easy and he knows she is a dirty slut , he is never going to want to be with her. Thats the difference , whereas the guy with the high body count is sort after dude.. If you go back the ancient times , the strong male warrior mated and lived with 5 different women or more , their mensal cycles would change to work in with the hunter , so that children could be produced for survival of the species. Guys who dont have high body counts are not sort after males , hence weaker.. So a slut looses her value with each male she bangs , also some of that DNA stays in her body forever. Nothing has changed.. And everybody know this is how it is -- High body count ( female ) = Slut.

[Reck_01]

@slyznsen Umm... We can say that morally it's the same thing. But not Physically in Biology and Statistics. You see it is very hard for men to bond with women, and it is very easy for women to bond with a man she has sex with multiple times. Now it is difficult for a man to bond with a women because of what that bond means, it means for a man that he will protect her with his life if it comes down to it. Every decision he took as he was free from bonds as he had sex and had money and freedom to do whatever he desired now has to give up and think of his significant other. As for what a bond means to women is to keep them happy and respect them & by helping with day-to-day needs. Now that bond almost always forms if a woman has sex with 1 man multiple times, as she forms bonds with multiple men, if the last man is not the best in all of the human species she will "break" that bond to end up with a better man (she will cheat). (Just google Pair bonding research, you will find tons of it) But that is not true for a man as he can have sex with a woman he doesn't like, you know the whole "how dare you treat me like a piece of meat!" "Am I nothing more than a sex object to you?" Yeah! But women can't! If she can then she is promiscuous and it's a psychological defect that is hereditary and linked to trauma almost 100% of the time (According to scientific research). I know it seems unfair but it's a very sad view to me personally that women see men as a reference point to compete with. We are not the same, we are different!

[Sour-rose]

Becaaause we shame them. And they're too weak or dumb to justify it.

[MiddleAgedClimbee]

I'll keep this short. People like to point fingers and make fun of others, because they are immature and seek to direct attention away from themselves and their behaviors. A woman who has lower self-esteem partially due to others ridiculing her behaviors will continue to be target for ridicule , as well as a girl who might be easier to get in bed.

[lightbulb27]

historically men hold the power and provide the resources. women raise the children.

which of the males is the father, and which of the fathers is going to stay around and support the woman for the next 30 years raising her offspring and supporting her when she's vulnerable?

If you'vechangedthe world where you (woman) have the power, you've got a harem of men (ior a man) you control to care for your offspring, then so be it.

If you have more than one offspring by different' men (baby daddies)... I just don't see evidence that works very well in society or the world.

So do that... you've got a complicated mess on your hands. Emotionally it won't work, phsyically it will cause suffering for her and the offspring.

It's much easier to keep things "sane" and stable and constent, for the betterment of all parties.

It's just how things are structured in nature. you want to be creative... it's your life and choice... don't blame me when problems occur and there is suffering. The only value to doing what you do is to get pregant... but it has the risks noted... lack of support.

[ComteDeSaintGermain]

Women like sex just as much as men and are still shamed for it. It doesn't make any sense. I wish women could be free to be who they want to be, but it's going to take decades of reprogramming. But hopefully we will get there one day.

[Apple1996]

Women in general are forced by society to repress our sexual urges. If we don't do that it's shamed. I say it's best to ignore anyone that's shaming for this. If a woman wants multiple partners that's her choice. We are acutally made to have sex with multiple men. That's why we can go all day having sex and men can't. The men shaming for this are just jealous of our sexual power that they don't have

[EstevanMadrid898]

Not true the longest I've ever had sex was 4 hours and she tapped out

[Apple1996]

@EstevanMadrid898 maybe she was tired or bored. Most women can easily go non stop

[EstevanMadrid898]

She was tired and sore but I meant guys could last a really long time 4 hours is not a amateur in any way

[MikeTheBartender]

Any plans tonight? We should get dinner at that new Chinese place?

[Apple1996]

@MikeTheBartender omg so sweet to offer to take me out 💕 I'd go if I wasn't already taken lol

[MikeTheBartender]

Of course :) I loved this: "That's why we can go all day having sex and men can't." Some men can though! 😂 ❤️

[Light_beam]

Heey.. i asked you out first..

[Rewtty]

@apple1996 if women are meant to go for multiple men (which they aren’t) why don’t they. Because who’s the father then? A woman’s value is in her chastity. That’s why men never fall for these girls. A woman who’s had multiple partners can’t love properly either.

[Apple1996]

@Rewtty that's the point they sleep with multiple men to get the strongest sperm. Nature doesn't care to know who the father is

[Apple1996]

@Rewtty thats a male insecurity thing. 40% of dads right now are deadbeats anyways so not like they even are out here providing for their childern

[Apple1996]

@Light_beam awh I'd go out with you

[ComteDeSaintGermain]

@Rewtty I do not see women throwing their money at male webcam models. I don't see women paying for sex or begging men to be with them. I only see guys who are desperate for women who have or haven't had sex. A woman's chastity is not her only value, and some men will date women who have had multiple partners. When marriage and societal rules didn't exist, both men and women could sleep around with multiple partners. Monogamy and marriages are not in human nature. This is why we see more people are starting to enter ploy relationships. So yes, a woman can have multiple partners. It doesn't matter how much you disapprove of it. It's reality. I understand it makes you feel inferior because you're probably a red-pill man who can't accept the truth. And about the father, again before marriage, let's say when we were tribal humans. There were no traditional conservative Christian families. Sometimes, the biological mother and father might not have done much to raise the kids. The community would help raise the kids or their relatives. It was more community-based. In American culture, people neglect the community for individualism. Which is why you see marriages falling apart divorce rates increasing, and loneliness on the raise.

[Apple1996]

@ComteDeSaintGermain you are exactly right. a lot of times it took a whole village to raise a child. It wasn't always just the parents taking care of them. It's a sad now that most of us don't have a community to help. And definitely he's probably some red pill dude that's trolling. If women want to sleep around then it's their life and they should do what makes them happy

[marish01]

Going all day doesn't mean a woman should have sex with lots of men. And not all sluts have high sex drives. Moreover a woman with a low sex drive might be very promiscuous because there are other reasons for female promiscuity not just the sexual urge.

[Sharkstealth]

That's an interesting statement. This along with comteDeSaintGermain s thesis is precisely why I widely say that prostitution should be legal and controlled. I don't know if you have noticed but serious problems in our country began during "coincidental" changes in our laws and views.

[Berethor]

Because a woman that have sex with multiple men is a ho.

[mandyfire98]

Double standard. Freedom for me and none for thee. Do as I say not as I do. It's a way of controlling people. You'll see societies throughout history and cultures that make certain people follow rules that are not being followed by those that are keeping other's below them. It's not just shaming women and sex it's other things as well. Look at the rules some Arabic nations have for their women that yhe men don't have to follow.

It's stupid considering humans like sex. Both men and women. But women aren't supposed to enjoy sex as much as men. Horseshit. Tells me that a lot of men don't and will never truly understand women and don't care to. They want women to be their ideal version and not for us to be who we actually are. It's about control. Always will be.

Just have fun, be safe but have fun. Don't even pay attention to people trying to shame you for an act that we all enjoy and do.

[verylovelyguy]

@mandyfire98 it's not just societal. there's biological differences. the difference between how male and female dogs react when you fondle them

[mandyfire98]

We aren't dogs. These biological differences in humans nowhere does it mean that men and women should be held to different sexual standards. That's bullshit. If you are saying that women can't enjoy sex as much as men on a biological level then you're lying. 100 percent. There is no biological reason that backs up that men should be able to have sex with different partners without shame but women should be shamed for the same thing. You are just making up fake shit to be able to get away with doing something that you don't want another group doing. Bullshit loopholes is all it is. "It's easier for women so men should be praised for it" shut up with that nonsense. That's how a 3rd grader tries to argue to get what they want. Same level of reasoning. It's bullshit and it's stretching so hard muscles are being pulled. Get that redpill nonsense out of here. If men think that both men and women shouldn't have body counts then that's at least a better argument. But to pull the double standard of men should but women shouldn't. That's just literally, I want to but I don't want you to. And that's just a form of population control. "I can but you can't"

[mandyfire98]

You out here fondling dogs? 🤢 What in the absolute fuck?

[Notherndude84]

Men and women should have the right to enjoy sex with any consenting adult without guilt or shame. This business that women are the weak sex or don’t enjoy sex as much as men is complete bullshit. We need to acknowledge female sexuality and that women have a sex drive as strong or possibly stronger than men.

[Billlewis]

I think that egregious practice is just about over now.

[Tanya456]

Seems kind of old fashioned.