Why do some guys think they’re entitled to sex?

Like seriously I’ve dated and befriend so many guys where things are great and peachy but as soon as they realise sex is off the table they get hostile and want nothing to do with me. Some have even said they deserve it considering the effort and money they’ve put into the relationship. Like dude wtf.
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a lot of confusion here. What I mean is that sex is off the table until I can see if we have chemistry which can take 2 or more dates. If we don’t then I end it. I’m not going to waste my time if we don’t click. It’s guys who get upset with this because they got nothing out of it that I have an issue with.
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  • I don't. And I don't want to sleep with you. Stop giving yourself props you don't deserve. Probably low quality skids trying to hit you up. Hang out with better men.

  • So in other words this “great and peachy” guy is someone who obviously wanted to date you and went through all the effort, risk, time and heart in doing so and your confident that they should be okay with the friend zone?

    You are a grown ass 30 year old woman not some naive 19 year old. You should know that if a straight man approaches you he’s most likely interested in being more than friends. While attraction isn’t a choice RESPECT is. It’s fine if you are not interested but maybe you should show some respectful communication vs trying to milk the attention, effort and favors he did for you. What’s so hard with being honest with him BEFORE he tries to do all that.

    Just smdh.

    • What I mean is sex is off the table until I can see if we have chemistry which can take 2 or more dates. If we don’t then I end it. I’m not going to waste my time if we don’t click.

    • @stormmistress alright I can see where you are coming from. However I think there is another reason why guys make a move so fast nowadays and it’s not just hook up culture. Let me explain. When I was much younger and idealistic I behaved in a way women SAID they wanted when it came to dating. I was patient, friendly, caring. I wanted to build something up and i felt that would legitimately make sex all the better. That’s what most women say they want right? Well the deep down ugly and horrible truth is I without fail friendzoned EVERY single time I did that. Every time. I had sex early with all three of my last long term gfs (within 3 dates) even though a part of me didn’t want too so early. It was more about showing the woman where i stand vs. gratification. If you meet a guy you like but don’t want sex right away then you must communicate that you really do like him romantically but don’t feel comfortable having sex so early. I would flat out tell him that you have no intention to friendzone. That sounds crazy but I kid you not many of these guys have had horrible past experiences with that. It jades us and makes us callus. So let him know you really do find him attractive but you need to go at your pace. If you decide you don’t want sleep with him then do NOT ask him “to be friends”. Just say it’s not going to work out and move on.

    • by the way thanks for that clarification. There are a lot of women out there who see no problem exploiting men vía friendzone bs. They aren’t all going either. I had a grown ass woman a year old than confidently pull this bullshit 3 years ago. It was infuriating and deeply insulting.

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  • Well..
    Men are programmed to spread their seed if they cannot fight that Instinct.. Your NO can be very hurtful

  • Are you a virgin? If not, what did those guys have to do to have sex? Chances are, not very much. No guy likes to overpay. You're not a 21 yr old, beauty queen, virgin, who has never been touched and can name her price. You are a 30 yr old woman with a sexual history.
    Men of the age you are now dating, do not have to wait around for you to get sex, they tend to have plenty of options. And if you aren't willing, they will just not waste their time with you and find someone who is. If they get mad it's because they feel you wasted their time.
    If you want success, instead making lists on what you want out of a man, find out what the men want. Compare that with what you are willing to do and find some happy medium.
    Or go on and delude yourself that the right guy will magically appear... because fate. Unless you are a virgin, which I seriously doubt, men don't want to have to go through anymore expense and sacrifice to have sex with you when other men didn't. The easiest sex you ever had is your lowest common denominator.
    I am not saying any of this is wrong or right, it's just the way it is. The guys you want, now have options and they don't have to wait on you and they won't. They likely spent their 20's dateless and alone and now that they have some value, they are not waiting on you.

  • Ok, so you've dated and flirted with men, and you're completely surprised why a man would lose interest to learn you're not interested in bringing anything to the table? If you're offering a relationship without sex, then exactly what use are you?

    • I’m not offering a relationship without sex. I’m saying sex is off the table until I can see if we have chemistry which can take 2 or more dates. If we don’t then I end it. I’m not going to waste my time if we don’t click.

    • I'm not sure if anyone sent you the memo, but we live in the age of equality. Women made it perfectly clear they don't like being treated as things, so men basically did the same. In a nutshell, what that means if a man isn't entitled to sex, a woman isn't entitled to a man taking them on a date just to buy their time. You accepting a date from a guy without any intention of sleeping with him, i'm genuinely not surprised they all thought you was a bit of a *****. You wanna find out if you're compatible, you have a casual drink like normal people. It really is that simple, if you're bringing nothing during the courtship stage, while you expect him to fulfill his role as a dancing monkey to see whether or not you like him, then you won't find many men that won't feel insulted enough to cut their losses. If a woman doesn't bring anything to the table but sex, just have sex with her on the table. And she doesn't even bring sex to the table, while she expects you to bring your wallet, then you leave her at the table.

    • I’m not having sex with every single guy I date just because we date. Why would you have sex if you don’t click or have chemistry? Which is why you date in the first place to build a connection. Stuff off dude.

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  • I don't know... you talk too much, love. Gimme that lovin' though...😏

  • If sex is off the table, why are you dating them? And why is it off the table? I can understand if you're waiting to be in a committed relationship, but if it's just "off the table" completely, yet you let them take you on dates, many will assume they were being taken advantage of and you had no intention of building any relationship.

    • I agree. I always pay my own way on dates and let the guy know exactly what it is. If I'm interested in a long-term relationship and marriage I would let him know.

  • Because they are losers who listen the Manosphere crap too much.

    • most likely ,

    • some are chads, very few.. most are losers , and some leave not because of sex.. but because the push back was hard.. I would also be careful about calling people you date losers.. losers are into losers.. i wouldn't call myself a loser.. but there are some women i find absolutely distasteful I have dated, but im not gonna say why, because it would be like saying.. I am a mistake and my actions were a mistake.. they weren't a mistake.. im glad I did it, because I have become better everytime. yet possibly worse in other ways.. or rather my ways.. have been hidden by my warm heart.. that is not as warm as it use to be.. it can be.. given the right women.

    • @Joshua_L_Blackmon well yeah there’s plenty of men and women out there who are. Makes the nice ones even more special though.

  • Why complain? Just move on.

    • Maybe you can help yourself by reflecting your own behavior. Are you doing things that may give guys the impression that you are dating? Like stringing them along?

  • For the same reason that many girls think they are entitled to the man's money and attention. Because the dating relationship has become commodified and self-centered. It's toxic, from both sides

  • I don't know, why do some girls think they're entitled to having their meals paid for.

  • Because if you dont you will never get any.

  • He's thirsty obviously, anyone who fucks instead of shaking hands can stay away from me. People act like they weren't taught about sexual diseases. I knew a guy that helped a girl with her water, he had fidgeted with the water meter to get her water running then expected his dick to get wet afterwards. Guys tend to have perverted day dreams that are unrealistic then all id the sudden think they will happen since their brain said so.

  • I think some girls do too, tbh. It's just a conceited way to think

  • Probably something physiological that a doctor would need to diagnose. That behavior is reprehensible and I don't think anyone can really say why some men behave that way without an expert opinion.

  • The guys who think they "deserve it" based on time or money, are just fucked up. That said, sex IS on the table in most natural evolutions of a relationship, but the timetables vary widely, especially for women. You know yourself better than he does, so if you have a "no sex for 6 months" rule, or some other kind of rule, you should consider letting the man you're dating know this. Sometimes women will use that as a "test" to see how interested a man truly is, but there are pitfalls everywhere with that.

    Still, no man should "expect" sex in return for time and money... that's what call girls are for.

    • Honestly my No Sex rule is usually 3-4 dates lol. That’s the average time it takes for me to see if we click or not.

    • Well if a guy "expects" it sooner than that, he's not the right guy.

  • I agree that confidence comes before sex and that everyone has the right to consent sex or not.

    If a relationship dont go any further, it's ok, dont worry.

  • Good question. It's like, why do some girls think they're entitled to relationships and get hostile and claim they deserve to be your girlfriend/wife just they had sex with you?

  • Selfish entitled bitches what else

    • Dude really…

    • I have a feeling you think I mean girls are selfish entitled bitches... while some very well may be, your question is why do some GUYS think they are entitled to sex, and my answer is that those guys are selfish entitled bitches

    • Not sure why you thought my answer was about girls when the question was about guys, or maybe I'm wrong. But those guys are bad people and a clear reason to get them out of your life ASAP

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  • If you don't wanna have sex, that's fine. Say so from the get go.

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