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But the Alpha? He is the smooth talking hottie that she doesn't want any long term commitment with. But he is so hot and sexy they have sex on date 1. Oh yes.. she has standards.. but what her girlfriends dont know is that she had a few one night stands with some alphas.
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34 75.. umm... no.
If he ain't potential hubby material, he ain't gettin any of my attention.
But in my eyes the guy u described as beta, is the alpha male. He actually brings value to society.
You're clearly not aware of Beta means
@romeo_and_cats i know exactly what the narrow minded version of a beta male is, i do not need someone tell me what i feel is a dominant male. I find the fake ass tough guy male that everyone thinks is alpha to actually be beta, because they usually act like that because they are deep down weak little boys. And the fact that he thinks a good man, and a good husband who provides for his family is beta. That sounds Alpha to me. Not a guy who i don't think is good enough to raise my family and help me provide for them. But that's how i see it.
"... Alpha Male =a man tending to assume a dominant or domineering role in social or professional situations/relationship." So yes there is Alpha in the relationship role, why not? If he's alpha and act like gay, or beta it would be noticeable that he's not gay. Because no one can fake what you ARE NOT. For me alpha is a guy who can get what he wants and go where he wants. Not all husband can do that and most lack sexual skills seductive attractiveness hence woman cheat on them, hence for me they're not considered Alphas.
@romeo_and_cats yes i know this but his original question he made it seem like a person a woman find a provider, nice and makes a good husband/father a beta. And a guy who is not considered that alpha. Then after my post he puts definition of alpha and beta in update. Again a toxic male and a weak acting man is no different to me as being beta. A alpha male is strong but doesn't need 2 prove it, because he knows if he needs 2 he can. he isn't intimidated by a strong woman, and isn't gonna let anyone walk all over him either. But for him to either assume or make it seem like a good man who women find husband material is beta is ridiculous.
By the way , you are absolutely correct in your anology. Just thought I'd share thst with ya.
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The thing since we humans share same endorphins and same evolutionary process as other animals and we have unconscious thoughts like other animal do, including we have similar body instruments and ancestors human parts that live in our body until today but we don't use it. It's easy to assume, especially what we think as what we want to be correctly and to that most is false. In animal nature every animal kingdom has an alpha, not necessarily mean all others are beta, but one is different. Alphas risk themselves into big fights to protect their group, their lack pieces of their bodies, sometimes an eye, lots of scars. They don't go together in the band, or to any female, they're the ones who have sex, while all others doesn't. In majority of animals including feline types. While in chimpanzees are bit different, as the alphas are social, take care of others, but if they still need to go into a fight they will have, for sure in that environment is diferent both cases they're not providers. As in what we know about humans, only the most strong guy, including woman did fight back that time, against huge mamutes, every day hunting, both missed sometimes parts of their bodies, or arms and if they lack a leg they had to be left behind to be forgotten.
What I learned from here is that survival is a fundamental skill, first rule to survival = is to survive! I believe by being strong is just the complementary result of that skill. I believe as well that type of persons in that time must be very strong emotionally, very secure, leaders (because if you do a mistake you may screw other hunters and kill your whole tribe), as well know what type of foods eat, have balanced body, health as the result as being a good hunter. Now in society of nowdays what makes you think a Alpha male is if he hasn't to fight like our ancestors did? So can he be a fat smart guy sitting on computer the whole day and having a great job to provide to his family or still he needs to be sane in the brain to be a perfect father for his children? Because I believe and what I really see nowadays is the same badass guys getting girls, so maybe that's what still triggering in woman, unil today making them believe, that, that's the types of guys who will provide all mentioned before
Men probably do this for hot bitches too though.
Of course we do.
I made the same question, surprisingly I believe no woman will give that type of answer. In real life woman talked with me and shared real answers. Even if they do share they may lie, so beware. This was based on the book Orgasmology which was written by group of woman sharing a bit piece of information of the types of guys they have preference to fuck with, and let's change the fuck to *have a child* because some girls would think that I'm only thinking in sex here. In this book they've draw a map where the first 15 days before or after ovulation woman prefered to have sex with alphas (the ones which she would have the baby), and the others with the provider but making much more hard to have sex with because *remember he has to provide first*(not always considered Beta *do not confuse*), woman doesn't want to have sex with any Beta, this why some guys get pitty and start to annoying and talk shit when we comment on the subject. As well I'm sharing real life experiences, I don't have any problem with woman the contrary I can choose, and I keep aware to not fall into provider category, that's easy when you know what, bc exist some guys who will mix, and there's some guys like me who intentionally want to mix both behavior for learning purposes.
I strongly don't believe woman will answer that because they don't want Beta or other guys faking they real character to try to be like Alpha and if they do would be noticeable.
As well I believe every guy has a potential Alpha inside that they can unlock if they let the outcome, the many agendas.
Just my thoughts and experiences though
Right, because god forbid a woman can be honest on matters like this.
Meh. Most of that sort of shit is a trope.
Usually they are just too afraid/creeped/drunk to tell you straight what they think.
This is accurate. I've seen it with a lot of 'beta' guys over the years.
What's also bad is that a lot of girls like to pick and choose what they're okay with between alphas and betas: a beta male could flirt or say something really frisky to a girl that she will find offensive or what makes her "uncomfortable," but an alpha male could do the exact same thing the beta did and she wouldn't be offended, take it to HR, etc. In fact she often will be flattered by it.
This is why I constantly try to teach a lot of young guys, especially those who don't have a lot of experience with females, to pay very close attention to girls when they're talking to other guys. Take note of the type of guys she talks to, how she behaves with them vs with you, and her reception to them vs with you. The kind of guy a woman interacts with or responds to will tell you a lot about her. When you see differences or hypocrisy, that's enough to let you know you shouldn't be associating with her.
Your equation does not account for Omega males, like myself, who will ask you once, and if you are not hungry, I'll have my nice steak dinner and beer, and let female platonic friends with erotic benefits amuse themselves releasing my sexual pressure valve of excess internal pressure buildup.
Just because I am a monogomouse male, doesn't make me a sadistic teasers bitch.
I love watching men try to describe women. Especially when they use the term "alpha" unironically.
We all know most girls will break rules for guys. That's universally understood. It's just a matter of how far an individual girl will with you.
And it could be entirely based on the time, her mood, her perception of herself, her perception of you, her upbringing, who is there to see it.
Any variety of things. But honestly, if a girl breaks a rule for me I'm more concerned about making sure she doesn't regret doing it. That's more important in my opinion.
I don't bother with discerning if a girl has ever broken that same rule for another guy. Tho I will say 90% of the time a girl says "I never do this" I don't believe it lol.
If a girl volunteers that info the vaaaast majority of the time it's a lie and just doesn't want to be perceived as a slut.
The idea of alpha/beta males is based on a study done on captive wolves that was later proved to be false. The results were due to the animals being highly stressed and kept in a much too small enclosure.
Anyway any guy I've ever met who genuinely describes himself as an alpha and calls others betas has just been a dude who's loud and rude.
I agree. Obviously some people are going to have it easier in dating (examples are sexy celebrities) but I don't agree with the whole alpha/beta thing. And anyone who has to call himself an alpha isn't an alpha even according to their own definition.
@mistixs I agree
100 true, lmaooooo xD
There is no such thing as "beta" and "alpha", those terms make no sense according to both people that coined them (one did that wolf study and the other one applied the ideas to humans).
I don't understand why people have to make alphas look like douches bags that just use women for sex.
That's not all of what an alpha is for Christ sake.
this question reminds me of that saying i heard a guy say to me "alpha's fuck and Beta's jerk off" so if i am baseing all of the times i have had sex it would be some what true
There are no such thing as Alpha and Beta men.
Yeah there are. Maybe its not that every guy is either/or (most are regular guys and not either) but there are some guys that fit picture perfect female standards of a perfect guy while some guys are the contrary; wimpy, weak and would run at the first sign of trouble.
Females have unrealistic and often impossible standards. That has nothing to do with it. A beta does not mean weak and wimpy. A beta is a #2 and are potential Alphas. If you were a mob boss and you have a right hand man, that's the beta so the link between beta and a wimpy weak guy that can't stand up for himself or have confidence makes no sense.
At all.
It’s 2021, we need to stop categorizing men in animal social castes.
true true
This is a oversimplification.
You know it's the same for girls too right? You would be more attracted to the girl that doesn't give a fuck and doesn't care..
I think there's something really wrong with all those guys (like you) who're always talking about "alphas" and "betas."
Most of all the "alpha" guys I've seen get fucked in relationships. They face the same problems that the "betas" do: being cheated on, dealing with a lack of libido or erectile dysfunction, getting trash talked by their women, nagged etc.
Never trust a guy who calls himself "alpha." They're usually overcompensating for some inferiority complex he has.
In fact, there are only two categories of men: 1) the smart boys who fuck women and don't take any responsibility or commitment with them. And 2) the idiots, who spend most of their attention, money and time trying to please a girl.
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I could go on about him, but these two make expose him enough.
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Yes, absolutely.
If a woman wants to get with a man she'll break all the rules to do it.
If she doesn't, she'll make up a new rule every day why she can't.