Do you think people have too much consent these days?

[A_Nihilist]

Before you get your pitchforks and torches hear me out...

I have been thinking about this a lot recently. That we live in a time where people have too much consent.

I strongly believe that no one should have to put up with something they don't like by any means. People should respect people's boundaries.

But I think that this modern day consent has become an issue in the dating scene. Some people may consider physical touch a violation of consent without asking. Others may consider flirting with a stranger to be a violation of consent.

I personally believe that many people of any gender probably relate on some level to the fear of getting flirty with someone these days. All it takes is one person having a bad day to turn around and hit someone with a sexual harassment charge or worse.

So I think, has consent gone too far? They do say too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Has this over-fixation if consent become some form of alienation?

Curious to hear people's thoughts on this.

[DizzyDesii]

I feel consent is more about asking to touch someone before touching them. If someone hugged me without my permission, I’d cringe and tense up but thats not a reason to throw a fit about consent. If someone says “can i kiss you?” Sure they can ask if we’re on a first date but they dont need to ask every kiss after that. Consent to me is specifically made for touching someone sexually. Everyone should definitely ask or at least learn to read body language for times after the initial asking. I would let a guy know all the boundaries ahead of time as he should let me know the same. I don’t think anyone can have “too much consent” but not everything needs permission

[computer_nerd]

true i have always had troblem reading body language

[DizzyDesii]

@computer_nerd you have a problem reading the room period. You don’t really understand when to quit, no matter how many times I ask nicely. I shouldn't have to repeat myself everytime you create a new account. Just chill

[computer_nerd]

@dizzydesii sorry last account that wil ever be made was this one if i leave i leave for good

[Shamalien]

I’m not gunna ask for a first kiss that’s cringe

[DizzyDesii]

@Shamalien we i like when a guy says “Can i kiss you” or “I really wanna kiss you right now”. I usually just laugh it off and say “Well what are you waitin for?” But then there are the guys that i am not on a date with and have no interest in and i am thankful they ask first so i can politely decline rather than dodge their kisses

[computer_nerd]

@Shamalien it all depends on the woman soem you should asked some you should just go in for it

[Shamalien]

@computer_nerd no. I’m not kissing randoms but if I like a girl and we on a date and I feel the moment I’m going in

[computer_nerd]

@Shamalien tahts what i meant a date

[21Cowboy21]

Very well said - getting consent before a new boundry is pushed but then asusme its a given unless otherwise stated if they change their mind about that same. type. of actuon or are not feeling that same type of action on a certain session and stopping immediately. But not having to ask each time if talked about ahead. of. time - well said.

[21Cowboy21]

Pardon typls I'm underdesl ant worm

[21Cowboy21]

Work

[21Cowboy21]

Totally - sometimes you may want a certain action done to you bu one party but do not consent to that exact same action if requested to be done to you or from you by another party you may not be as attracted to or get a little creeped out by

[DizzyDesii]

@21Cowboy21 thanks

[singlemombizz]

Yes times have changed a bit.. The advice I give my teen daughters is to set boundaries as you go, but not get to crazy. If you're prepared to make out be prepared to be touched. You remember, 1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base and home run? Yes like that. Guy should not have to get consent before every move, just every stage.

[Gagname]

Wow, great opinion and advice.

[21Cowboy21]

Consent is more about the feeling I'd say - you get a pretty accurate feeling for if someone is enjoying it or not.

Girls always should have consent and no means no if ever its not clear or possibly unsure if they are actually serious or not.

I find it fairly difficult for males though as when they have to stop and ask as most feminists state is a requirement for consent now:

Girls - omg Staaaapppp (means continue) Nooo dont do that (means do that if you are tickling or cuddling) fuck you no I can't handle it babe (means she can and is loving it so please continue with the dick appointment) in girl speak.

But if rough play speak is not talked about ahead of time or a safeword (pineapple is mine always) set up in advance - always take it at face value and stop (even though most times it is actually not despite what feminist woman claim - they are the same girls doing the. above most sex sessions so I find it rather hypocritical if taken to the extreme).

[21Cowboy21]

And if you stop for the 80-95% of the time they are at face value telling you to stop even though they actually mean the opposite and are just trying to act more submissive if they are more turned on around a guy and trying to act more feminine -these same feminists get very upset and ask you why you stopped, or get made at you for asking each and every time if something else is ok. for consent before each kiss, or before oral, or before a slap on the ass, or before a hair pull etc - they hate when guys are not man enough to just full out take what they want and dominate. And often if the man asks it shows they are kind of like a pussy and weak - the female gets turned off and wrecks the mood most times and she will say the answer is no. If you just do (unless she states otherwise pr if she says stop part way through with an agreed upon consent word ahead of time and talk about bounderies ahead of time is best course of action nowadays around this big double standard woman state they want I find. It works well for both parties and maintains consent for both parties. that way.

[A_Nihilist]

Pineapple is also my safeword because they're disgusting.

[anon1903]

Do yourself a favour. If they don't give you clear verbal consent, leave. These women sound troublesome.

[Wish4UrB00ty]

I would t say we have too much consent I believe we have people who do not respect consent or the withholding of consent. Woman’s are constantly complaining about men who didn’t ask or didn’t even try to establish a grounds for consent but then they also are constantly asking us to not ask and wishing that we would not ask and simply sweep them off their feet or where ever else our hands land. I think everything is better with some consent.

[anon1903]

They should pick a lane

[Wish4UrB00ty]

@anon1903 It would just make things easier.

[anon1903]

I quite agree

[SaoirseS]

Get out the pitchforks, light the torches, a riot is an ugly thing but it's high time we had one! (Just kidding)

I don't think the concept of consent is difficult to understand, it's more some people's inability to apply it intelligently that's been the problem. It takes time and effort to get to know someone and know his or her boundaries, pet peeves, quirks, etc.

[Paul_in_Indy]

I love receiving consent. I can’t get enough of it. More consent is always better.

[Leopard23]

Considering feminist say that women can withdraw consent at any time including after it's over and years later I'd say yeah

[anon1903]

About the meme, he needs a better lawyer

[Leopard23]

@anon1903 doesn't matter how good your lawyer is if the courts are institutionally sexist against men.

[anon1903]

I really don't think so.

1. You shouldn't flirt with random people. 2. You shouldn't take your anger out on your partner because you were having a "tough" day. 3. If a person said no, be it your partner of ten years, and you still touch them, that's violation, bestie. No means no. 4. Don't touch people. How hard is that? Especially if it's not a friendly pat on the back or hand on the shoulder. I'm saying this because I have bushy hair and some people just love to touch it. They don't even ask. It makes me so uncomfortable, even if they compliment me.

[anon1903]

And "can I kiss you?" will always be hotter than my SO just swooping in, like a rom com obsessed person.

[Mmmariaxc]

You shouldn’t flirt with random people? 😧

[anon1903]

@Mmmariaxc yep.

[Mmmariaxc]

Nah that would be too boring 😛

[anon1903]

@Mmmariaxc K

[Mmmariaxc]

Well you know you can tell be how someone looks at you if they like so it’s not an awkward thing. Why do you think people shouldn’t flirt?

[anon1903]

@Mmmariaxc flirting is okay, just don't approach random people with "can i have your number" that's creepy

[Mmmariaxc]

Oh no I never do that it’s always a man thing to start the conversation but if I see a man looking I’ll flirt back with my eyes and facial expression lol it’s just fun.

[anon1903]

@Mmmariaxc Kay

[Mmmariaxc]

Lol.

[JustinTheGreat]

I don’t think so. I think these scenarios of people screaming “assault” at someone just flirting or whatever, aren’t as common as you’re making it out to be. I’ve only heard a handful of stories online of people doing things like that. And even when that happens, majority of people disagree with what they did.

[anon1903]

I completely agree

[DarkLegacy]

I quite agree. You should try and live here in the UK, where wolf whistling, cat calling and following too close to someone at night, and using indecent language is going to be a criminal offence. I don;t see anything wrong with physical touch without asking.

[A_Nihilist]

I am in the UK and technically all of those things are already technically a criminal offense. But people either don't report them or see them as something so minor they are not worth reporting.

[DarkLegacy]

They are not worth reporting

[Anonymous]

Yes lol I remember hearing ‘can I kiss you?’ On Netflix for the first time and it was so cringe.

Also it really makes me mad when women complain that they were drinking with a man and regretted the sex so it must be rape like bitch he was drunk too and probably regrets it just as much lol Have some responsibility for yourself.

[anon1903]

It depends? Like if you went out with a men for drinks or you were at a bar and he offered you drinks, then the motive is clear. But if they're at a party? And she doesn't even know him or interested in him and she had drinks as a form of social drinking and he took advantage of that? That's terrible.

[anon1903]

It's rape if the girl were passed out from drinking.

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 well yes It would be but you should have more sense to not continue to drink when you are already drunk. I was talking more about when they wanted it while drunk but in the morning have regrets.

[anon1903]

Doesn't mean it's not rape

[anon1903]

Drinking is common

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 so you think women shouldn’t be accountable for their own choices when drunk? … because plenty of men and women go to prison after making bad choices when drinking/ on drugs. Why would a bad choice to have sex be not their ‘fault’.

[anon1903]

It really depends

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 depends on what? I’m only talking about willing and participating at the time then regretting because I have definitely heard and seen on here women calling this rape.

[Anonymous]

Consent has gone too far. WTF ARE YOU EVEN SAYING?

[A_Nihilist]

If you read the whole post you'd probably understand.

[Opinion Owner]

Its total bs

[A_Nihilist]

Okay Ms Anon.

[Anonymous]

I see your point but it just an elitist plan for depopulation theory to continue long term and it works thankfully