Why do guys fear being "tricked" by a transsexual so bad?

[ElizaPam]

Lol pussy stuntin is a thrill like fucking a guy who thinks your cis makes you feel like "shit yeah I can do anything a real girl can do" but y'all say you're scared of being stunted on by a fish and even say it's rape lmao no hoss it ain't that bad when I "tricked" a man he was really excited and really enjoyed himself (even more than I did 😒) when I got raped there was nothing fun or enjoyable about it men are whiny "being tricked is rape" fuck outta here dude 😒

[NetSapien]

I'm not going to hide behind anonymity to say my piece.

I feel there are guys that are fine with engaging intimately with a trans woman. And I wholeheartedly support their choices and will defend their choices to do so with no judgement and no denigration.

but..

Being how clear and specific I am with my communication.. if a biologically born male 'tricks' me into having sex with them under false pretenses.. That person will need to call the Red Cross and the fk'n military to rescue them from my wrath.

[NetSapien]

It's not a matter of homophobia.. transphobia.. or any phobia. It's the deceptive act in and of itself by a man to a man. The idea that the man 'feels' like a woman would be irrelevant at that point. I hit 'submit' too early

[ElizaPam]

Well I'm not a man do I don't see it like that. It's really a matter of "what you don't know won't hurt you" which means it's not that big of a deal. So if I got your dick hard and sucked it and swallowed your nut and we never met again then you're welcome. What's the big deal. I'm not a man in a woman disguise. This is me. I got the guy hard without trying. Sucked and swallowed, and we never met again. My saliva didn't burn his dick off, I didn't infect him with man flu, I didn't massage his dick on my vocal chords by singing bass. He saw a beautiful young woman (which I am) we chatted and I sucked his dick and we never saw each other again. He hasn't died, hasn't caught anything, he wasn't forced to experience sex with a man, and unless he's told I'm trans he's fucking dandy. So how isn't it just transphobia? it's not like my body and face are costumes I wear to disguise myself as a woman. I am a woman. This is actually me. Honestly he lost the second he looked at me and thought I was cute. Y'all just want to believe we're men so bad no matter how we look. It's ridiculous I'm a woman.

[NetSapien]

I understand what you're saying. But 'truth' is, and will ever be, subjective. As an example of how truly subjective it is, I'd point to the flat-earthers. I can sympathize with a trans woman's situation of having been born in a male body when they absolutely and without a doubt feel they are female. I do not presume the arrogance or hold authority over you, for example, to tell you that you are incorrect in either knowing or believing that you are female. If I were to take that position, I would submit and agree, I would be transphobic. But if I meet you at a bar.. and I think you look good.. and I've communicated to you that I will only engage sexually with someone that was born female.. and because you proceed already knowing that I don't want to engage with someone in a male born body, then you're are engaged in deception. You'd be luring me into a situation I originally said I did not want to be in, under false pretenses. That's disrespectful as fk. Back to truth being subjective. I will talk to you, treat you, and possibly even admire you as a woman out of respect to you. Because based on my subjective truth, you're not a woman but a man dressed up like a woman. But now I'd have been disrespected as a person, I will care very little for the respect I would have had towards you and treating you like a woman. You, at that point, based on my subjective truth.. are a man.

[Mia_MadisonOF]

Just because you had a good experience when you tricked a guy doesn’t mean they’ll all be like that. It’s a VERY reckless and dangerous thing to even consider doing.. A lot of men are homophobic due to their masculinity being put into question.. I know more than one who would physically hurt you if you were to trick them into a situation like this. If a man doesn’t knowingly enter into any kind of sexual act (a) with someone who is trans then you’re being dishonest and while it’s not forced rape, it’s a form of rape. A minor can consent to having sex with an adult because they think they know what they want or they think they’re responsible enough to make that decision but it’s still statutory rape because the adult has more knowledge of the situation and is the responsible party. I don’t feel like what you’re describing is any different. Tricking someone into having sex with you or hiding your true gender from someone in order to be intimate with them is just flat-out wrong.

[Squiggles88]

I'm not a guy but if I'm sleeping with someone I like to get to know them. And transitioning is a massive part of someone's life therefore it would be weird to me for someone to leave out such an important chunk of their history. I'd say it's more about trust. If you think being upfront about it will put the person off then that's being deceptive.

[MCheetah]

Because they're not Homosexuals and having a man lie to you and reveal they have a penis in your bed counts as sexual assault?

I mean, okay. If being tricked into sexual assault by a dude is fair game, then so is "trans panic," where men beat/kill transwomen for tricking them into sexual assault. That's perfectly acceptable too, if you want to put it that way.

Frankly, I don't have a problem with that. If a guy beats a rapist to death, then that's fair and retributive justice. Just like if a woman killed a male rapist for the same thing.

[LZPanzer]

Guys get lied to by women enough as it is. Why would you make it more difficult for other guys to tell fact from fiction?

[ElizaPam]

Guys lie to us way more. Seriously guys always lie to us and we believe it because we're in love.

[LZPanzer]

There is a lot of lying dating, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Guys have a certain comraderie when it comes to the dating world, guys will go out of their way to help another guy out when it comes to women, it's hard to describe but it's almost like how every guy winces in pain when shown video of someone getting kicked in the balls, or how all women understand the pain of childbirth. The op by lying to that guy committed a serious faux pas.

[MrKinktastic]

I think it’s a lot of homophobia mostly. They’re afraid of being attracted to someone they think of as a man (regardless of if that is accurate or not) and think of having sex with a trans woman as a gay act. So they freak out and try to blame you when they were also attracted to you.


Though it’s best for your own safety if you disclose before it gets to that point as some dudes can get pretty aggressive or even violent about it.

[TonyV]

Tricked is rape, rape is lack of consent not force, that's why it's rape even if a drunk person "has fun", you really have some fucked up thoughts in your head.

[ElizaPam]

When we trick guys they consent. They only have a problem finding out because society is so transphobic. But guys aren't fucking our chromosomes or our past selves they're fucking the beautiful woman they want to fuck.

[TonyV]

It can't possible be consent if it's a lie, what's wrong with you? If I consent to a girl riding me while I'm tied and blindfolded and a guy sits on my dick in her place that is rape, even tho I didn't know and it felt good it's rape. For a supposed rape victim you sure seem pro raping people just cause you chose to have a hard life. Get help.

[TonyV]

He thought he was fucking a girl and you aren't a girl, it's rape.

[ElizaPam]

I am a girl.

[Toldol2]

They fear to discover they are gay

[DonkeyDan]

Yeah if a guy was to falsify or withhold information in order to obtain sex from a woman that would be easily be classified as rape or sexual assault. Double standards eh?

[ElizaPam]

No it wouldn't guys lie to us for sex all the time they're always thinking of things they can tell us to sound cool

[DonkeyDan]

Depending on the situation of deception yes it is, if the victim files a complaint. I guess you've never heard of Rape by Deception or Rape by Fraud, real things that real people have been convicted of.

[DonkeyDan]

In most case its where the person has been tricked into thinking they are someone else, which is exactly the situation you are talking about.

[ElizaPam]

Nobody was tricked. I am what you see.

[VanillaSalt]

Straight up if you don’t tell me your a man before things get physical I’ll kill you before your tell anyone… your fault not mine.


I make the decision if it matters not you.

[ElizaPam]

I'm a beautiful woman and I'm just as good as a cis woman the only thing that changed is now you know I'm a little different but it's just "what you don't know won't hurt you" meaning your thoughts are the problem not me

[VanillaSalt]

No no you’re not. You can’t give me kids… and besides this knowing you were a man’s too much I wouldn’t and you don’t have the right to make me.

[ElizaPam]

I can be a great mommy for a baby that needs a home! ❤️ It's ok if you don't like special girls like me I promise not to trick you just please don't be mean to us.

[VanillaSalt]

Oh I won’t be mean to you… I just wouldn’t be willing to date you. I’m not interested and don’t think your thinking right. But it don’t effect me until you bring me into it. If you didn’t tell me who and what you were not only is that lying but that’s taking my right to choose. You cannot have my child. You can’t give me a child. Unfortunately for you the only part of women I’m willing to suffer for is the fact they provide children. This means you provide no value from me. I could easily get along enough to be friendly albeit with tension. But you’d never be a romantic option or interest in my life no matter how perfect of a “woman” you are. Hell Ide even probably refer to you as she… but your not a woman I would be even slightly interested in.

[JCrockett]

Because trannies are disgusting. But I don't think many serious people "fear" being tricked because the honest truth is that so few of them pass that it's not really a risk.

[ElizaPam]

You'd be surprised at how many of us do pass. Especially girls like me who transitioned as children. We never went through male puberty. It was so fun being a teen girl I felt so cute and adorable and guys would die for a chance to fuck me back then even when it was legally rape but now I'm 27 and starting to feel like a raggedy old bitch lol.

[bifus]

Straight guys who are attracted to women but are transphobic and homophobic are afraid of trans women because on some level they realize they are attracted to some of them, but they also (incorrectly) think that attraction to a trans woman is gay.

They are terrified of the idea that they might not be straight, and they project that fear onto the trans women they are attracted to. They must be "tricking" them because they can't process the idea that straight men can be attracted to trans women.

[Agape93]

Are you out of your gods damned mind?

[Agape93]

Like seriously, this isn't rhetorical. What the fuck are you smoking to post vile shit like this?

[ElizaPam]

He saw a pretty much younger girl and wanted his dick sucked and offered me a suboxone for doing it that's not rape or vile that's us both getting what we want without any unnecessary details.

[Agape93]

I'm talking about your views here. Like seriously, the fuck is wrong with you.

[ElizaPam]

My views? I'm not the one who thinks transsexuals rape men

[Agape93]

That's because you're being a fucking ignorant shit sack.

[sam_antha]

@Agape93 as someone who is transsexual I so appreciate what you wrote

[Agape93]

Anytime hon

[ElizaPam]

You never explained anything you just said a bunch of mean stuff. I'm just extremely offended that people would call me a rapist.

[Agape93]

Then don't be a fucking rapist. It's been explained by other people here, and you just argue about it. Don't even fucking try.

[ElizaPam]

Read your fucking messages I ain't never thought a fucking cis woman who isn't blatantly transphobic would call me a rapist. I'm a fucking survivor. And if I give a man what he wants, which is me, he's welcome. Fuck you. Calling me a rapist for doing what a man wanted me to do. That's fucked up coming from a woman.

[Agape93]

If you don't want to be one then don't. Being a survivor of rape doesn't mean you can't become one. This has been explained to you by other people on here, and you just argue with them. So it's clear you're not going to listen, so I have no patience for your shit.

[FunkyMonkee]

They're araid of being labelled a fag if their friends find out! Strange thing is, most trans people will tel them up front before it goes beyond just a casual friendship. Who wants to get romantically involved with someone and then get dumped by them because of their awkward beliefs that being trans is wrong?
Also, BECAUSE of this way of "thinking", what trans person wants to risk being killed by some bonehead that "thinks" that way?

[CasaNorba]

because unlike you women we men are not bisexual by default

[ComradeCarabao]

Only really DUMB dudes worry about this happening; they (eroneously) see it as "gay," but anyone with a functioning brain will tell you it's not. How many men have you tricked though? 😂 You should post some true stories about your "pussy stunts" on here; in my opinion, that would be an interesting read. 📚

[RebeccaBI2000]

That I don’t know. I think Trans are beautiful

[Seangreen]

If they can trick me until the panties come off then they earned it

[lucas262]

He'd probably get his ass kicked. For sure if I ever put hands on em. The idea disgust me

[RoadTraveler]

If I was closer to your age you wouldn't have to trick me, you could fuck me all you want. Society is too judgmental and transphobic. I find trans women extremely attractive.

[ChiPaPa]

You got raped. I'm so sorry.

[ElizaPam]

Men have raped me so much I hate it I wish guys thought about how it's feel if a man held them down and raped their butts before they do it to us. Some hurt so bad I thought I was bleeding to death while I was being jackhammered other rapes actually felt good physically but mentally broke my heart because guys should care about if we say yes or no. The one that breaks my heart is when my boyfriend raped my virginity. No other rape still hurts me every day like that one. I hate being so vulnerable to men.

[TexasRed95]

I don't view being tricked as rape at all. They decided to go through with it or not once they know. And I think it's more the fact that they have their attraction defined by your birth gender.

[Screenwriter]

It's not "rape," but dishonest. There are many straight men who, seeing ElizaPam, might not care. But, EP has other issues going on. Meth addiction? I think this might where some of her opinions/thoughts are blurred. Most people on here respect a trans woman's choice to be w ho she is. And, as for what Eliza is saying: She engages in anonymous sex with anonymous men, most of whom don't ask questions about her birth sex or her STD status either, I bet. And most likely, don't care. So, we have to consider the source of this post.

[Morgador]

LOL trickery is never a good thing to do even though I agree would be hella funny. I have seen a few that OMG their gorgeous. But not for me I live and breathe for women. I have no problem as friends and hanging out. Hell I will bring him home and let my girl have fun lol.

[Mdm617]

The dudes that get “tricked” are lying and know exactly what is going on, unless they are totally wasted maybe or incredibly stupid. I have met a few trans people and could instantly tell they were not born a Woman. I would never be worried about being tricked because it is so easy to tell.

[ElizaPam]

Not those of us who transitioned as children