Sexual Relationships 
Sexual Health I saw a video on YouTube,
the guy (Tony Haskins) in this video says that all men are unforgiving when it comes to woman's past.
And all the guys, that say that past doesn't matter are not looking for a serious relationship or marriage.
Is it true?
Are all Men 'Unforgiving' when it comes to their Woman's Sexual past?
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15 52An individual's past is almost always relevant because it may show a pattern.
I think that most men and women are not very forgive in this situation, but I think that men to be less forgiving. This is only speculation on my part.
For her to consider overlooking a woman's past is that if she had undergone a personal paradigm shift and demonstrated that faithfully. I think it would be fair for shy woman to expect that from a man also.
Not all men.. I am forgivin of a women's sexual past as long as it's her past, and not a lingerin present..
Didn't see the video but as for the question I reply: Other.
In many cases it's not about him wanting to own her, is truly disgusted about her sexual past. I'm sure there's guys like that too, but I see the exact opposite. Envy.
She had the early whirlwind romance, then the one nights stands, the friends with benefits, the 3:00 AM booty calls, and he didn't. Now she says "I've had my fun and have experimented enough. Now I want to settle into a relationship". He didn't have any of that, and it's getting late.
These guys, should just wise up, not go into that relationship, even if they fear they have few options otherwise. Hell, go take 2 months and bang a new escort every week as a postfix if you feel like you have to, but do not go into that relationship now, no matter how well you otherwise fit together.
As for guys who slept around enough, yet shames women for the exact same. Fuck 'em. Hypocracy at it's worst.
Forgiving is a sign of maturity. If you're able to do it, your own life is so much better...
I don’t recommend marrying a woman with a promiscuous past
It is very important that she not have a long list of partners as that screams trouble. The less she has had the more I respect her.
few men are unforgiving and few are forgiving? How the fk did everyone vote for that shitty option and why is there not an option for most men are unforgiving but some aren't? Or 50/50? Terrible options... generally, the more a man thinks he has to offer in a relationship, the more he expects, and a man without much baggage that's barely dated isn't going to want to be with someone who's been around the block 10 times. If you are under 25 and you've already had more than 10 different sexual partners and aren't engaged this is bad news for you, yeah, which is why it's gunna offend soooooo many woman on here, and their little white knight soyboy cucks who will come running to the rescue, hoping to get a little of that loose puss for himself... I"ll never have that high an MHO because I don't appeal to people, I just speak the truth, and some of y'all are gunna like it but for most of you, it will be easier to go on believing I am wrong. Pleasure comes at a price, learn it now or later
Some men are judgmental and insecure (as are some women). It's in your best interest to stay away from such men if you're going to get married.
This really needs to die.
Women can get horny and have sex with men too. It doesn't make them "lesser" or "cheap".
Now I know that some men have issues with a woman's past, but that comes from his insecurity, or from having traditional values. Women shouldn't have to care about what some guy thinks when she decides what she does with her body.
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No it doesn't. It has nothing to do with his insecurities. Why would you assume that? Why is it that the man is always wrong? Maybe your wrong? In fact you are. Multiple studies have time and time again shown that promiscuity leads to greater rates of depression/anxiety, divorce, cheating, unhappiness in long term relationships, dissatisfaction with sex etc. etc. Their is a reason why men don't want those kinds of women, it has nothing to do with him being insecure, it has to do with the fact that actions have consequences and women seem to not want to acknowledge that. No one is saying women can't enjoy sex, you can enjoy sex and not sleep around, most people do that in fact. That is a straw man argument meant to ignore the issue entirely. Its not about her liking sex, its about her sleeping around with multiple people.
You don't have to care, no one is saying you have to, what they are saying is that men don't want women like that because they are a risk so if you want a stable long term relationship (and as per every statistic on the subject be happier in general) with a man, generally your going to have to conduct yourself in a certain manner. Just like a guy can't be a free loader living with his parents at age 30 and be expected to be taken seriously, women who sleep around and act as if their is no consequence shouldn't expect to be taken seriously.
Just saying, women prefer guys that weren't promiscuous also, so you only want it to die for women? That's unfair. Also no one ever said a woman can't do what she wants with her body but that doesn't mean men can't have their own opinion on her, or not want to date her. Men don't have to see virgins and promiscuous women the same. They aren't. Stop trying to force everyone to think like you do.
What's wrong with traditional values? You must have traditional values since you said you wouldn't even go on a date with a guy if he refuses to pay for you
@Mike100745 I don't care about a guy's sexual past, and I don't think he should care about mine.
@CT_CD I don't have a problem with traditional values, or people who follow traditional values. I just don't abide by them.
@hellionthesagereborn Please cite these "studies".
Isn't expecting the guy to pay a traditional value?
@CT_CD I don't see it that way. It's just something that I want.
Sure
You ask me to cite the studies but we both know you will not read or accept them so what would be the point? But because I like to be thorough I will give you the studies, just don't try and tell me how all of them are wrong because you don't like what they say.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../nihms499028.pdf
s3.amazonaws.com/.../Bookofcharts.pdf
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/.../full
www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_23/sr23_022.pdf
https://www.bradley.edu/dotAsset/165862.pdf
www.hookingupsmart.com/.../
socialpathology.blogspot.com/.../...uest-post.html
socialpathology.blogspot.com/.../...uity-data.html
@hellionthesagereborn I'm not gonna read all of them because I don't have time, but the first one actually says that number of sex partners is NOT linked to anxiety or depression. It is linked to substance abuse problems. So maybe the danger is substance abuse and not having sex with lots of people? Anyway, not as damning as you're making it out to be.
Technically paternity uncertainty is a huge source of implicit anxiety for men. A lady with a reputation for sleeping around might stoke this fear. Sleeping around for both men and women is damaging to their understanding of the important bonding component of sex And for women specifically, male paternity anxiety makes the consequences of sleeping around more severe. Aka a key that opens many locks is a great key. A lock that opens for many keys is a bad lock. But hey, if you like to sleep with your beloved partner a dozen times a day, no one will judge! Isn't that good enough?
No, it says their is a correlations between all of them. Then their about ten other links as well so yeah, pretty damning. Further more if promiscuity and depression are linked that shows that either promiscuity causes depression, or depression causes promiscuity which in either cases shows that promiscuity is an unhealthy thing. Plus of course STD's, unwanted pregnancy and single mother hood all of which are terrible things. You did exactly as I said you would, you asked for links then dismissed the data.
Simply put. Guys don't have to date sluts or take them seriously just like women don't take guys that don't have a good job, or car seriously. Its called dating preferences and absolutely everyone is entitled to one. Many men don't want to marry women like that. Its not the guys fault. Women want to act like whores when they're young and then they want to land a high quality guy.
@mike Well, it's a question of what your definition of a slut is. Are you a virgin hunter or are you cool with a girl having slept with previous boyfriends and had one or two of them?
A slut is a girl that has has lots of casual sex partners. Most people agree with me. Most girls are sluts these days as they have lots of sex with strange men. Especially at college
I agree on your definition, not your observation. You are looking at a particular group of girls my friend. The skinny, slutty, hot girls that most guys LOVE. There's a huge contingent of more homely girls who stay at home and watch Netflix while studying for their MCATS. Hell, there are even some bombshells with good values doing that too.
From my experience attractive girls (not ones who wear heavy makeup, act suductive, etc) don't sleep around at all. Cute girls with cute personalities and morals. But every other girls is a thot
@Sethorien Most of what you said makes sense, except for the lock and key analogy part. Because you cannot compare people to objects. Every woman has the right to do what she pleases with her body. She has free will and she can decide when having sex with someone suits her. And I do get that men dream about having a hot woman who only wants him. But the problem is no man is owed anything in life and women do not have to live to please men. So a lot of women aren't gonna care and men have to live with that.
Well if women don't have to do anything to please men well it goes both ways. Why should guys be loyal or even date if they don't want. I mean you said if she wants to sleep around she should and I agree. It's her body but if men don't want to date her well that's too bad. Girls like that are labelled for good reason and high quality men don't have to date them.
The problem is that girls want to be wild when they're young. They wanna fuck a LOT of different guys and sleep around with like 60 guys in 4 years... then they wanna act all innocent and get married to some shy guy in a white wedding dress. That's the problem, They want the benefits of sleeping around, without dealing with the consequences and they also want the benefits of being exclusive and landing a high quality guy and things just don't work that way.
@Mike100745 Very true. They want to do as they wish but they want to avoid the inevitable consequences of those actions. That's why they judge men who don't want them and demand that they date them and accept them as possible partners, they don't care about the mans personal values or desires, they don't care that its his choice and his life, they only care about them having those choices. That's what makes it so messed up.
Ah rasp The point of the lock and key analogy is more about which sex is more selective. Women are definitively the more picky sex. This is pretty well known in the evolutionary literature. Girls commit more to pregnancy and child birth. They can't afford to be hitched with a crappy baby, and we spent a real long time living before condoms yknow? If you're part of the picky sex and you pick every guy, you are acting like a lock that opens for every key.
@Sethorien Women can have sex with lots of guys and still be picky. They only want high quality guys. So quantity doesn't always mean having low standards.
@raspberry0416 your quantity of men makes your pussy a low quality... this is coming from a woman! I wonder how many dick will pound you this V day...
7 dislikes? wow, you halted a lot of mens masturbation rituals.
@sheflips Being fat, ugly, or mentally unstable makes a woman low quality, not how many dicks she has had.
@raspberry0416 Holy shit!!! You are a terrible person!!! Just because a person is fat or ugly does not make them low quality. They may be unattractive but personality plays a big part. Low quality person is someone who is absurd, weighs people based from their looks and had been banged by multiple men. You clearly is a person without substance!!! Remember that when men are fishing, they only do 2 things. They let go of the easy fish because they are low quality or keep the quality fish which probably took them a while to catch.
Actually men are not a fan of women who have slept around. At least not for an actual relationship. That's why their is no society on earth that tolerates promiscuity, every one that does falls apart (which is what happened to Japan during the edo period (If I am not mistaken), the Persian empire, the roman, the greeks etc), its simply not healthy nor is it a stable relationship. All data shows that it results in higher rates of cheating, divorce, unhappiness in long term relationships, displeasure with sex (those who have sex more often with more people actually report less satisfaction with the sex then those who are more socially conservative who have one partner they have sex with) etc. All of this creates an unstable environment for raising children and undermines the entire social structure (again, hence the collapse of civilizations that go this route). Men instinctively know to avoid these kinds of women. So yes, lots of partners means low quality.
@sheflips LOL
No. He's either full of it, or playing to the audience, depending on if he actually believes what he's saying or not. This is the logical error of "over-generalization". Muddled thinking at it's finest, I'm afraid.
No he is actually right. I think i remember you being open to cuckold and the sort. You are the exeption, in this case
@lord_chilled The fact that there IS an exception (and more than one, statistically) proves the point that he's wrong. That's the logical error.
Just generalizing doesn't mean he is full of it. I think you are emotional, because you took this a bit personally. He is right about the majority of men, a few exeptions doesn't invalidate his point/message. Thats like saying a guy is full of it for saying "women were designed to concieve children" just because a percentage of women are infertile. In general the statement is still right.
well... i would hardly end up marrying a former prostitute you know... but we never know the future but i pray to God to not let me fall in love to any girl like that... it would be completely dishonorable and shameful and i could not even look straight while walking in the streets by having a wife who is known by several men
I dont care and i dont think it should care. isn't she with you now?
It depends on your understanding with your woman... And your overall trust in the relationship with her
you can't lie about how many people you've slept with. If lie about that then what else are you lying about.
Her past is her past,. I wasn't there , whats to forgive? If a guy is hung up on her past, that he wasn't part of no less, its a symptom of his own insecurities and lack of maturity. No if ands or buts.. and its also a sign of a controlling person, and that might lead to a unhealthy relationship
I don't think I care too much about a woman's past. I can't really relate to guys who care a lot about women's "purity". I mean, sure, it's nice if she isn't completely used up, but... yeah. One of the biggest crushes I have had was a girl who had a pretty eventful sex life.
I dont trust the views of the person in the video !
He himself seems to have issues.
His judgement is skewed from day one.
He seems to be biased already.
A person's sexual past is irrelevant. I'm interested in their character first.
I can't vote with wording like that. most men i know understand the women they meet are not 13-18 never been kissed and most wouldn't want one either. I mean you get tired of teaching the ropes after a while the weird shit becomes mundane. As long as when yallare together you keep to agreed standards. wtf
Depends on the past guys in her life. Some girls I would not have sex with account of the past guys in her history. Someone that might have the "Gift that keeps on giving". Like Aids...